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01:32:03 Kofiman: I see
NJW forgot trence isn't wearing his boots.
01:32:10 Kofiman: and he isn't not wearing them the way he does as a dragon.
01:32:22 Kofiman: ..that terminology continues to amuse me.
01:32:57 Kofiman: Also, updated Mistakes. I'll do my games later.
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03:45:59 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
03:45:59 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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10:30:52 Kofiman: welp. Looks like Victoria threw up an American Civil War. I've heard that doesn't often happen.
10:32:14 Kofiman: looks like it was over slavery, but the abolitionists are the rebels, running a revolt backed by free planters and factory workers with an industrialist president. The dixies have the bankrolls over them. And the states are.. very weird. Let me look at them more closely.
10:38:17 Kofiman: Ah, no, not over slavery. About installing tenet farmers.. in other words, nobility.
10:39:04 Kofiman: looks like slavery is legal but they successfully restricted it to only existing slave states before Texas joined, forcing them to join as a free state.
10:43:17 Kofiman: looks like the ones supporting freedom are all the southern states.. save Florida, Texas, all the midwestern states and about two-third of New England. (All save Maine, New Hampshire and Conneticut). Also, D.C. is with the loyalists, but it'll get conquered.
10:44:27 Kofiman: oh, also, half of Oklahoma and Colorado are in the hands of Mexico, but the US managed to enforce the other normal borders with them. Probably because those were in native hands for a very long time and surrendered to Mexico and not the US, but I'm not sure what happened.
10:45:34 Kofiman: Also, there's an immense amount of turmoil within the other remaining states. I don't know what'll happen, but there might be -more- revolutions. I'm gonna go save and tag-switch to see what that looks like.
10:48:08 Kofiman: ..also, I should have looked harder at the rest of the world. Apparently the Taiping Revolution succeeded.
10:58:23 Kofiman: Okay, this is fucked up, but I see what happened now.
10:59:26 Kofiman: what happened is that the northern and southern democrats split early.
11:00:35 Kofiman: This lead to the southernern planter class and evangelicals getting marginalized and losing control over their own party.
11:00:59 Kofiman: They then joined up with a new party that formed from western expansionists and pro-army jingoists.
11:02:05 Kofiman: The industrialists of the north controlled the government for a while, but then had a split of their own, between socialists, bureaucrats, and capitalists.
11:03:11 Kofiman: So they lost the next election to the pro-army jingoists, who won hugely in the legislature, under a president who isn't a member of that party, he was the leader of the northern free farmers.
11:03:36 Kofiman: ie, they elected a legislature that was vastly composed of a different party than the guy they elected president. Deliberately.
11:04:54 Kofiman: The southern planters, with about 30% of the clout in the legislature, successfully pressed for a law to enact tenet farming. None of their other party mates expressly oppose the concept.. jingoistic army leaders have no opinion on that, and they're 'leading' that party. So they had a movement that was brutally opposed, but only by people who lost badly.
11:06:57 Kofiman: the policy was massively, massively unpopular to the point of instant tremendous revolts, but the legislature didn't equate the lack of political clout with the HUGE population the groups that hated, hated, HATED it had.
11:08:11 Kofiman: Sure, they voted for that party, but they were voting for the jingoistic expansionist wing with their extremely liberal leader, or the evangelicals, who although they support that kind of paternalism, have a leader who is an extreme democrat.
11:13:11 Kofiman: It was also not helped by the US having quite a lot of radicals built up over years. They liked their new government.. until they decided to change this policy.
11:47:56 Kofiman: France threw in with the 'loyalists', or it would have been a stomp. As is, it looked like the revolt would win a long war, but they capitulated after about 16 months.
11:56:11 GameServ:
Kofiman rolled 3d8: 3 6 4 <Total: 13(+16) = 29>
11:56:17 GameServ:
Kofiman rolled 3d8: 5 7 1 <Total: 13(+16) = 29>
11:56:22 GameServ:
Kofiman rolled 3d8: 1 6 2 <Total: 9(+16) = 25>
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23:14:45 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
23:14:45 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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23:41:23 Kofiman: got to watch the civil war from bizarroland the other day.
23:42:26 Kofiman: basically interest groups forming parties let the US, while electing a staunch pro-democracy president, and supporting the army party lead by another pro-democracy leader, let the southern planters who joined the political party push a landed aristocracy on the United States.
23:43:41 Kofiman: creating a political movement where basically 65% of americans took up arms to stop that from happening. The 'loyal' states were basically Maine and parts of new england and the far western states.. the settled north and the south fought on the same side.
23:45:10 Kofiman: That was last game. In this game the US failed to conquer most of the continental United States. That happened because they had a brutal political crisis not long after the game
started, where some radical pro-freedom guy attempted women's sufferage in 1840. It didn't end well.
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23:56:23 Egan: just me and cat in the house this week
23:56:43 Egan: I walked to the closest grocery and bought stuff for hamburgers~
23:57:11 Egan: the cat is friendly but mostly ignores me unless I'm the ONLY person around
23:57:25 Egan: is someone else shows up she pays attention to them instead
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