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01:21:02 MJ: This test is going to be brutal.
01:26:59 MJ: The problem is the two weeks they're teaching have quite frankly nothing to do with each other.
01:27:29 MJ: So you get done with studying one part and then you're like fuck I forogot to study the other complelty unrelated parts
01:35:37 MJ: It'll be okay, just a bit stressfull
01:36:29 Devastator: playing cargame right now.
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01:53:30 Devastator: can stream if you're interested.
01:58:57 Devastator: wouldn't mind names for car models.
02:06:02 MJ: Those are pretty much all of the words I know right now
02:11:21 Devastator: I do have a very popular series of vehicles that are powered by 20 HP engines.
02:22:33 MJ: Then call them microcytic anemai
02:23:11 Devastator: I'm not designing those right now. I'm designing a new series of modernized replacement vehicles for the ones that use my now-banned 150 HP leaded gas engine.
02:23:57 MJ: Then name them sideroblastic anemia
02:24:04 MJ: Which is actually a result of lead poisining
02:24:43 Devastator: The difficult part with the sports car is suspension adjustment.
02:25:31 Devastator: a MR/RWD car with a relatively potent engine has like four or five possible major issues with turning.
02:31:32 Devastator: These sports cars want to be somewhat comfortable, which means they don't want to swing about with insane oversteer, or have brutally stiff suspensions.
02:31:40 Devastator: it means that you shouldn't put in a too-powerful engine.
02:35:26 Devastator: There's also a lot of localized peaks when doing fine tuning, so you never really are sure if you've hit the best spot. LIke you can balance it nearly the same, but with slightly different combinations, and some of these peaks can be a lot better than others.
02:36:40 Devastator: There's also issues because of how sensitive sports cars are, and if you're checking for some different feature, it might flip the oversteer/understeer line again, giving you a big drop for something that would improve the car overall.
02:40:47 Devastator: anyway, the engine is just too powerful. When I get access to more of the world market, I need to split the engine for this off of the one for the luxury car, which needs to haul like four times as much mass.
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02:46:14 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
02:46:14 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
02:48:53 Devastator: 35 more bucks to build in raw materials. I'm gonna desize the engine about 50cc and see what happens.
02:54:12 Devastator: oh my god, that's amazing. I can make the thing run on 85 octane unleaded with a few more tweaks.
02:55:02 Devastator: yeah, that's worth it. Something like 12% of the market doesn't have access to premium unleaded, and 'standard' unleaded doesn't exist yet. That number would go down, but it's now gonna sell a lot more cars.
02:59:09 Devastator: Aight, now I'm happy. A few more tweaks and it's now 4800 for a plain body and I could include a decent quality radio too.
03:05:13 Devastator: 4707. I decided to cheap out on the brakes a bit because of how many points I've scored in other areas, it's high enough quality to beat all the competition in the market handily, so extra quality does me no good.. people who know about the car and are lookign for one like it will buy it.
03:05:30 Devastator: now just going to paint it, and make a convertible variant.
03:05:40 Devastator: well, no, make it, and design the other two models.
03:06:31 Devastator: The convertible market wants sedan models not coupe ones to get them all, and since I'm gonna use a different factory for it, I can afford the extra design and engineering cost.
03:06:54 Devastator: There are basically zero people who want convertible supercars (yet) so I'm gonna skip them.
03:10:18 Devastator: ..and some of them will buy the non-convertible sports car, or the convertible non-sports car.
03:10:25 Devastator: and I make both of those.
03:18:07 Devastator: What colour is an Erthrocyte?
03:18:25 MJ: It's a name for an red blood cell
03:18:50 Devastator: God, they put a lot of effort into making car paint look good in this game.
03:19:03 Devastator: I should stream it for a bit just so you can appreciate that.
03:50:26 Devastator: Also, heh. Designed the luxury car. At the target price I set, there's a 5% penalty from luxury car owners concerned about it being on the costly end. (44,500/car) There's a 42% penalty from the Luxury Premium market concerned that that's too little to spend on a car.
03:50:40 Devastator: That's Luxury Premiums for you.
03:51:25 Devastator: 238 k in the Not Soviets, but a market of between zero and one a month.
03:51:58 Devastator: 254 k in Not Italy with a market of 6 a month.
03:52:16 Devastator: 453k in Not Bahrain, with a market of 22/month.
03:52:42 Devastator: I'd love to get in there, but my company only has enough fame and dealership connections to reach about 10% of the overall market there.
03:53:10 Devastator: 15% now that I check it. It's been going up.
03:55:35 Devastator: Anyway, that's enough for tonight. Not quite big enough yet for me to build a tiny factory to produce super expensive cars for them.
03:56:06 Devastator: but getting there. Selling like six a month would be fine. I can build them for a year or two and then just sell the cars over the next 20 years.
03:56:49 Devastator: even a tiny factory making hand-crafted cars makes like 20 a month.
04:43:05 MJ: Alright I'm going to bed. Goodnight
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05:06:03 syv:
Devastator, I hope you used
MJ's names
05:06:18 syv: It made me burst out laughing when I saw him give those names
05:07:37 Devastator: I only finished 1.5 of the three models.
05:10:54 syv: Jesus those shipwrecks paid well
05:11:10 syv: Would the fish have interfered if we let it run away?
05:12:08 Devastator: It would have spent the day away.
05:12:12 Devastator: it would have came back the next day.
05:12:37 Devastator: Normally someone would have looted them by now, but fish.
05:15:34 syv: If we apply elemental emblems to the horse armor, would that give Alice elemental resists?
05:16:14 syv: Basically asking if Talent can be abused to give Alice a bonus elemental resistance. :P
05:16:50 Devastator: Yes, but you need better than a silver one.
05:17:07 syv: Ah. What does the grading mean?
05:23:16 Devastator: Not too much specifically. Silvers are the base and give a pretty mudane or somewhat poor result.
05:23:50 Devastator: Golds make something better. They're required any time you want more than one rank of resist, or if you want actual bonus damage on a weapon (rather than damage typing.)
05:24:11 Devastator: Diamonds are better than that. Those +100% bonus damage weapons would have required a diamond emblem each to make.
05:33:10 syv imagines giving Trence a +100% damage boost
05:33:38 Devastator: I think the only diamond emblem you've seen was in that museum.
05:33:55 Devastator: the guy I specifically mentioned NEVER TURN INTO A DRAGON WHERE THIS GUY CAN SEE YOU."
05:39:16 Devastator: mmm, might be getting it mixed up with somewher else.
05:41:27 syv: The "never turn into a dragon" guy had a private zoo of all kinds of exotic creatures, IIRC
05:41:38 syv: ...He would've been someone to contact for the fish, I bet.
05:42:02 Devastator: Yeah, the guy would probably be able to tell you about the fish.
05:42:10 syv: Might've been someone who'd have paid for it, too. I could see him paying more than we looted.
05:43:02 Devastator: Nah, six upgrades and a useful +5 piece of equipment sounds like a reasonable pay rate.
05:43:15 Devastator: particularly since the guy would have to supply his own boat or monster trainer.
05:43:31 Devastator: That's a lot of money.
05:43:50 syv: I was thinking if we arranged for the latter stuff, catching it ourselves.
05:44:07 syv: Just selling him knowledge of it seems like fourish upgrades at best
05:44:30 Devastator: Nah, not realy. Four if you offer to escort the guy there to give a tour.
05:44:37 Devastator: knowledge might be worth one.
05:45:16 Devastator: If you showed up with, say, hypothetically the fish in a pokéball, probably more than six + one great item.
05:45:22 Devastator: not that pokeballs exist.
05:45:24 syv: When you make a supercar in the game, you should name it "Holochroal Sturgeon"
05:46:15 Devastator: be glad I ruled they didn't manage to find a more genuinely dangerous fish, like a killer whale. ;-p
05:46:36 Devastator: a more dangerous base animal and I think it'd have been out of reach.
05:47:00 syv: One would question why the person who made it *didn't* use a shark
05:47:11 syv: Are holochroal creatures just really, really, really rare?
05:47:57 Devastator: Yeah, they don't have a way of specifically making one with those mods.
05:48:01 Devastator: it had to spawn naturally.
05:48:35 Devastator: couldn't get the extremely rare combination of mods AND a super-dangerous monster.
05:48:58 Devastator: and the most common super-monsters in the setting are Void Beasts, and that's not happening.
05:49:48 syv: If we had theoretically captured and tamed it, maybe gotten an animal trainer for it, could we have theoretically have made it create a Holochroal Valterre?
05:51:08 Devastator: If it tries to duplicate something better than +4, it duplicates a +4 version of it.
05:51:16 Devastator: If it was able to do better, it'd have been better armed.
05:51:26 Devastator: I don't think you'd have survived two or three more base dice of damage.
05:52:05 syv: Well, that's good. I'd feel bad if we missed the chance to copy Valterre.
05:52:22 Devastator: You still gotta go to Valterre at some poitn to find out about the sword.
05:52:32 Devastator: I suspect that'll be next after this sidequest, with maybe a stop for the volcano form.
05:53:07 syv: Wasn't Valterre on the western continent?
05:54:58 Devastator: It's in the northern aprt of the Eastern Continent.
06:30:11 Devastator: Gate of Dreams updated.
07:18:59 Devastator: finished the new model of luxury car.
07:19:28 Devastator: unlike last time, this new model doesn't have to pay for the new factory. (Just refreshing the factory tools and building), so the profit margin on them is even higher. I'm putting in a 165% margin.
07:19:37 syv: We have an unidentified pedidot amulet
07:19:45 Devastator: Yes. Dang, I missed that.
07:20:09 syv: Can we Rougelike ID it by wearing it for awhile?
07:20:09 Devastator: You got that from the kraken, actually.
07:20:32 syv: We'll forget to ID it, so sure.
07:20:53 syv: Alice isn't so useful right now anyways. And the main threat of the area is now dead.
07:20:55 Devastator: Also, tbh, I couldn't come to a conclusive statement if you'd sold the other emblems.
07:21:14 Devastator: I thought you might, but could never find any posts actually stating it.
07:21:40 Devastator: Added it to the loot list.
07:30:01 Devastator: Thanks for your honesty, btw.
07:30:14 Devastator: you haven't been abusing me not marking tiredness, for instance.
07:43:35 Devastator: My god they did so much work on making car paint look good.
07:43:41 Devastator: It's just beautify.
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08:05:44 syv: Cheating would ruin the game,
Dev!
08:06:55 Egan: I had a dream that my mom's ex husband stabbed me
08:07:15 syv: Is that in-character for him?
08:07:16 Devastator: yeah, that sounds iffy.
08:07:29 Egan: sometimes my dreams of him he's just one of my friends, sometimes he's a monster
08:07:59 Egan: well, I haven't seen or heard from him in a LONG time
08:08:08 Egan: in that dream I was in my old room
08:08:44 Egan: in real life, well, I don't think he's stabbed anyone. probably
08:10:06 Egan: he was an asshole to my mom, but to me he only really either vaguely supported me or ignored me
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08:17:27 syv: Dunno what to say about it then, if anything.
08:22:25 Egan: I should annihilate that children's toy
08:42:28 syv: I was just making an action for it.
08:53:34 syv: Tempted to directly suggest to Fluffe that you two come help or head towards another anomaly, but I also find it kinda amusing that LV is the only character pursuing the actual mission so far. And I want to see how long that'll last.
08:56:39 Devastator: I'm leaning towards coming help because you asked for it.
08:56:46 Devastator: but I'll give the others a chance to chime in as well.
08:56:56 Devastator: so not going to post just yet.
08:59:29 syv: I don't think I did, at least not IC?
09:00:07 Devastator: Skylord -really- wants to punch something now, so saying you spotted an enemy is good enough for her.
09:04:03 syv: Apparently DRG had a bug which could cause oppressors and bulk detonators to occasionally spawn in the tutorial
09:04:11 syv: That must have been an exciting shock
09:10:53 Egan: how would falling damage work for holegame? It feels more interesting for an accidental fall to have the problem of "you're injured and don't know how to get back up" than "you die"
09:11:20 Egan: but if survival is TOO likely then people just just yeet themselves into the abyss as a fast way down :p
09:12:48 syv: You roll for distance fallen. Damage scales.
09:13:00 syv: In certain cases, falls over a specific distance are lethal.
09:13:18 syv: Can't fall *only* sixty feet in the inverted forest.
09:17:24 Egan: also, I was considering earlier a stress/madness track where if stress goes over a certain point you get a bad thing, and madness points are gained less commonly but are also harder to get rid of and make the consequence of maxing out the track worse
09:18:01 Egan: I was actually thinking about that while on FMD but whatever it works in most contexts where stress and madness would be an issue
09:18:22 Egan: and that could be mirrored for holegame where injury and corruption share a track
09:18:54 Egan: the more injured you are the easier it is to mutate and the more corrupted you are the easier it is to get hurt and die
09:28:06 syv: I like madness and alternative HP
09:28:17 Egan: so "physical limit" stat, when you take damage you gain a wound which probably doesn't do much on its own, when you ascend you gain corruption. if corruption + wounds is greater than physical limit, we roll for an injury or corruption
09:28:24 syv: I wouldn't tie madness to stress consequences though
09:28:33 Egan: and then reset wounds to 0 but not corruption
09:29:18 Egan: if corruption maxes out alone, game over.
09:29:43 Egan: but mutations are more likely the more corruption you have, which means less change of being injured or dying
09:30:20 Egan: IE you get stabbed but in response just spontaniously mutate
09:31:18 Egan: which naturally leads into being an immortal blorbo which just adapts to damage
09:31:42 Egan: hmm, why not tie stress to madness?
09:32:31 syv: It becomes less of its own mechanic. It's just an HP modification, then.
09:34:42 Egan: so it would be more flavorful if it worked differently?
09:35:13 syv: Yes. If it's got its own mechanics, it
09:35:30 syv: 's a different thing to be careful of and worry about.
09:35:39 syv: That's not to say maxing stress shouldn't increase madness
09:35:50 syv: Then it's a consequence of taking stress damage
09:36:42 Egan: maybe I shouldn't call it madness? It's not really madness on its own, just a harder to deal with version of stress, from dealing with [kittens] and such
09:37:34 Egan: watching a mimic devour human bodies is stressful while seeing something actually past what you should be able to comprehend is...
09:38:02 Egan: yeah, I guess it's Insight. Which means it can be beneficial as well :3
10:24:08 syv: Could make some gear that scales off insight
10:24:22 syv: High insight lets you cast spells at the cost of gaining stress
10:37:08 syv starts to think about gun game
10:41:04 syv: I should figure out a sheet thing for
Dev first
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11:13:19 syv: I offered to make a sheet processor for
Dev
11:13:40 syv: But I don't have a good archietecture for it. So I'm thinking about how to do it.
11:18:45 Egan: GMing would be hard I just want headpats
11:25:56 Egan: wonder if I should set up notifications or something to just remind me to GM stuff
11:26:14 Egan: sometimes I get stuck and don't want to do it but other times I just don't think about it at all
11:37:57 syv: Having reminders is helpful in life.
11:38:18 syv: I'd forget about the sheet processor if I didn't have a reminder note about it.
11:48:23 Egan: why do I feel tired when I got out of bed a couple hours ago and drank a glass of coffee
11:49:15 Egan: seems like a "go for a walk" situation I guess
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21:29:01 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
21:29:01 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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