ERLOG 2023-07-09

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00:59:55 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!

00:59:55 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]

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02:46:26 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!

02:46:26 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]

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03:54:17 MJ: lo

03:54:36 MJ: syv ER devastator

03:54:50 ER: hilo

03:54:54 MJ: hiya

03:55:07 syv: Hi.

03:55:18 MJ: how're you all?

03:59:28 ER: hrm

03:59:35 MJ: This game looks fun

03:59:36 MJ: https://store.steampowered.com/app/671860/BattleBit_Remastered/

04:00:24 ER: it looks like roblox battlefield so I automatically resent it

04:00:56 MJ: I mean yeah, but the the most recent batttelfield is shit

04:00:58 MJ: so like

04:01:04 MJ: I'll take what I can get

04:01:13 ER: I enjoy this "game" a lot https://store.steampowered.com/app/800620/Fallen_Hero_Rebirth/

04:01:47 ER: I would like to not play a multiplayer FPS with assault rifles in it

04:02:03 MJ: Fair enough

04:02:59 ER: they always cost a bunch and have nothing interesting

04:04:11 syv: Tribes?

04:04:29 syv: I think I got the RWR mod working

04:04:41 syv: Either of you want to test it with me?

04:04:46 syv: Costs like 4$ right now/

04:05:03 MJ: Do I need to mod anything?

04:05:13 MJ: Otherwise sure

04:05:15 syv: Yes, you need to unzip one file into a specific folder.

04:05:18 ER: okay, I guess I would play a modern military themed game IF it had catgirls

04:05:20 syv: That is literally all.

04:05:23 syv: Oh

04:05:39 MJ: That sounds very complicated syv

04:05:46 syv: There's a highly rated kemonomimi mod on the RWR workship.

04:06:11 MJ: what the hell is kennoninminin?

04:06:17 syv: Requires the WW2 DLCs, turns the Japanese into rabbitgirls, Nazis into catgirls, and Americans into dog/foxgirls.

04:06:32 syv: It's Japanese for "animalears"

04:06:35 MJ: ah

04:07:37 ER: of course it's nazi catgirls

04:07:45 MJ: I blame hellsing

04:07:57 MJ: and also the Japanese and the nazi's being allies

04:08:09 syv: Anyways, that's not the mod I'm referring to.

04:08:15 syv: It's 5-player MVW

04:08:26 syv: Basically five player co-op with no ally NPCs.

04:08:48 syv: The mod broke and also had questionable balancing decisions, so I fixed it.

04:09:01 MJ: Neat

04:09:19 syv: I mean, I *could* make the player also be a catgirl instead of Rambo, but that is work.

04:09:51 ER: catgirl rambo

04:10:01 ER: would be much better than normal rambo

04:10:51 syv: I can make the player catgirl Nazi or plain Rambo, no other options.

04:11:11 ER: darn

04:14:10 MJ: god damnit, my fucking keyboard is still only half working again

04:14:14 syv: I'm not sure how to do that, either.

04:14:38 syv: Looking at the code... it just refers to a "vest" model? Which I'm pretty sure isn't "Rambo".

04:15:03 ER: ah, spaghetti code

04:17:47 syv: I think that refers to the worldmodel of the rambo "vest" which changes your model, which is not droppable, so it's functionally a placeholder.

04:18:07 MJ: okay RWR is dld

04:20:29 syv: OHHHHHH

04:20:45 syv: Thaaaat's why I couldn't find it

04:20:54 syv: MvW Co-op is an addon to MvW SP

04:21:04 syv: So the rambo model is in the SP folder.

04:21:55 syv: *swaps models*

04:22:21 ER: so everyone has the same model?

04:22:33 syv: Yeah, can't do anything about that.

04:22:38 syv: At least not without more modding.

04:23:10 syv: This model is fugly

04:23:14 syv: But yeah, that works.

04:23:37 syv: It might actually work clientside too; if you swap your model you can see catgirls, while others see rambo.

04:25:10 ER: likely

04:25:35 ER: unless it's specifically synced up

04:26:00 syv: I think it may check the hashes.

04:26:38 syv: That would make some sense, I guess, for PvP. Don't want people editing enemy models for high visibility, I guess. Though in this game that seems very unlikely to matter.

04:30:29 MJ: So what do I do syv?

04:31:15 syv: I was hoping to get at least three people to test if the mod actually works >.>

04:31:26 syv: And Egan doesn't seem to be interested?

04:32:11 ER: I don't recall liking the RwR gameplay very much

04:32:37 syv: Damn,

04:32:59 MJ: I found it very confusing but also I last played it on a shitty laptopo that could barely run it

04:33:12 MJ: So it might be better with a better laotpoo

04:34:44 ER: I also just bought a bunch of games so don't really want to spend five bucks on yet another. or ask anyone to buy it for me, since I'm not really interested for tonight

04:35:05 syv: Damn.

04:39:31 MJ: welp

04:39:36 MJ: Devastator you aroind?

04:39:42 MJ: Man I can not type today

04:39:54 syv: Testing one more thing then I'll send the mod

04:45:25 syv: well okay then

04:45:43 syv: The default mod tries to scale enemy count to player count, adding 25% for every extra player.

04:45:55 syv: Because that's how the base co-op "mod" does it.

04:46:23 syv: But the base mod is capped to... one extra player. And forces you to have two players.

04:46:44 syv: So they just hardcoded it to treat the "number of players" as "whatever the max number of players is".

04:47:48 syv: The actual true mod simply raises the cap to 5.

04:47:48 syv: I changed it so you don't need exactly the right number, so can play with 1-5.

04:47:48 syv: ...But the hardcoded cap is still the same.

04:48:06 syv: So it always spawns 200% as many enemies, due to the high cap. Whether you're solo or have a full squad.

04:48:19 syv: AFAIK it has to be hardcoded...

04:48:24 syv: I'll just put it to 150%.

04:48:41 syv: Quality codw

04:48:47 ER: indeed

04:49:57 MJ: Neat

04:51:29 syv: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546439502609121292/1127458754737217566/man_vs_world_5mp.zip

04:52:07 MJ: Could soemone share a link for the lgos?

04:52:09 MJ: logs

04:52:14 MJ: god I can't type

04:52:39 syv: Download that, and unzip it to C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\RunningWithRifles\media\packages\

04:52:40 ER: https://parisbre56.com:9992/2023-07-09.log

04:52:51 syv: That should be all.

04:53:18 syv: It'll ask to name the folder the same as the zip's name, by default. Do that.

04:54:26 syv: Default is good.

04:54:26 syv considers whether that's sufficiently unambiguous

04:54:26 syv: If your tech curse acts up I'll explain it more verbosely.

04:54:26 ER: if his tech curse acts up there will be nothing you can do about it

04:54:52 syv: I can quietly cope and seethe as I play interstate tech support.

04:55:26 ER: download the file, look at it in file explorer, right click and click extract. then you'll have a folder. toss that into rwr data file or something

04:56:09 syv: Yeah, pretty much.

04:57:01 syv: Devastator WAKE UP

04:59:08 MJ: I think it worked

04:59:37 syv: I

04:59:43 syv: I'll open a server

04:59:52 syv: If you crash tell me what it says please

05:01:13 syv: Public server list, server name "MJ join here REEEEEEEEE

05:01:15 syv: "

05:01:25 syv: Player count should be 1/5

05:01:31 syv: If it's 1/2 I'll cry

05:02:05 MJ: mmm

05:02:16 MJ: it didn't crash

05:02:18 MJ: So tha'ts good

05:03:05 syv: It wouldn't until you try to run the mod.

05:03:17 MJ: I don't see the server

05:03:31 syv: Hrm

05:27:53 Devastator: hello.

05:27:55 Devastator: sorry syv.

05:27:57 Devastator: MJ.

05:28:38 syv: Hi!

05:28:43 syv: MJ just got it to work

05:29:05 syv: ...But I'm not sure it genuinely functions. I think the room is capped to two people still.

05:29:32 syv: Which might be unfixable; I ran a dif check on all the script files and fixed everything.

05:30:05 Devastator: well I'm here if you need a 3rd to test.

05:32:39 syv: Okay

05:32:46 syv: MJ has a server open, I think

05:32:49 syv: Mod link is above

05:33:00 syv: It has one less embedded folder than before.

05:33:53 Devastator: kk.

05:34:55 Devastator: same name, so deleting the old one.

05:35:08 syv: I think his server name is aaaaaaasomething

05:35:16 syv: It might be 1/2 players

05:35:25 syv: I want to see if I can join after you

05:39:06 Devastator: and.. ok.

05:39:11 Devastator: replaced the contents with the new contents.

05:40:20 syv: Hopefully it works!

05:40:52 Devastator: I joined.

05:41:02 Devastator: server did say 1/2 players.

05:41:30 syv: Nope, I can't join.

05:41:32 syv: *sigh*

05:41:42 Devastator: oh well.

05:51:29 syv: Edited something else.

05:51:46 syv: I'm starting a new server; can you tell me if it says 1/2?

05:52:12 syv: You shouldn't be able to join, due to the script change.

05:52:21 syv: "MVWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

05:54:55 Devastator: says 1/2

05:54:57 Devastator: note.

05:55:02 syv: FUCK.

05:55:05 Devastator: the map is labelled two player.

05:55:11 Devastator: maybe there's a map limitation too?

05:55:17 syv: uh

05:55:47 syv: "lobby_2p"?

05:56:24 Devastator: yeah.

05:58:31 syv: god

05:58:50 syv: The lobby_2p folder has 40 files in it.

05:59:15 syv: The script files are identical in a dif, and manually reading them finds nothing.

05:59:29 syv: The SIZE is also identical.

05:59:38 syv: Maybe there's a 2 swapped for a 5 somewhere

06:00:20 Devastator: ...well fuck.

06:00:36 syv: ...This is graphics stuff???

06:00:50 syv: Why are they handling graphics in batch files?????

06:01:02 MJ: even I know tha'ts madness

06:01:05 MJ: goodnight gentd

06:01:07 MJ: s

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06:08:07 syv: I'm just searching the entire RWR packages directory for "max_players"

06:08:32 syv: And then if that doesn't work, "max players"

06:08:54 syv: God, I could kiss Notepad++

06:13:55 Devastator: indeed.

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06:22:33 syv: Hrm.

06:23:33 syv: Making progress.

06:23:48 syv: Other game types DO set max_players, usually to 64.

06:24:01 syv: MvW doesn't, it has fixed_max_players instead.

06:24:33 syv: But that led me to searching for m_startServerCommand, which MvW uses to start the server, but is outside of its package.

06:25:52 Devastator: mmmmmmm.

06:26:17 syv: It always angers me when something tells me "no, you can't do that".

06:26:25 syv: And I try stupidly hard to subvert that.

06:27:11 syv: Honestly, the easy solution would be pirating an old version of the game in which the mod did work. Before they updated MvW.

06:27:20 syv: But I want to fix this.

06:29:16 syv: s.m_startServerCommand = """"

06:29:19 syv: Three "

06:29:28 syv: Yes, quality code, very good.

06:30:09 Devastator: good code now.

06:32:10 syv: What do you mean?

06:34:07 Devastator: just repeating what you said.

06:34:10 Devastator: <caveman>

06:34:14 Devastator: You make code good now!

06:34:17 Devastator: </caveman>

06:34:57 syv: I'm literally going through all the files where m_startServerCommand is referenced and checking for "2"

06:35:14 syv: Because somewhere it must set the room size to 2.

06:38:21 syv: "perform the floss dance"

06:38:27 syv: "perform the phut hon dance"

06:38:37 syv: "preform the helltaker dance"

06:38:41 syv: ...What?

06:39:52 Devastator: welp.

06:39:59 Devastator: did you find some easter eggs?

06:40:09 syv: Apparently you can dance, I guess

06:40:24 syv: I think you type /dance1

06:40:29 syv: Or 2, or 3

06:58:11 syv: ...

06:58:26 syv: Devastator, are you still around?

07:16:17 Devastator: yeah.

07:16:23 Devastator: just went afk for a moment.

07:17:08 Devastator: syv

07:18:59 syv: Can you check for an open MvW server?

07:19:36 syv: MVWAAAAAAA

07:20:55 ER: vwoo

07:21:04 ER hugs syv

07:23:52 Devastator: kk.

07:24:26 Devastator: I can see it and it says 1/10

07:24:29 Devastator: syv

07:24:40 syv: Okay, can you join?

07:24:44 syv: I assume not, but hey.

07:25:14 syv: Uhhh

07:25:19 syv: Did you just try?

07:25:19 Devastator: Yes.

07:25:28 syv: That... ended the game, as if I died.

07:25:29 Devastator: I joined, but it showed me a RIP screen immediately.

07:25:43 Devastator: well, getting closer!

07:25:44 syv: I was at 80% health and nowhere near enemies.

07:25:50 syv: Mmm.

07:26:30 Devastator: does the package need to be updated again?

07:26:32 syv: All I did was go to the regular MvW, and set "allow_activate_server" to "1"

07:26:45 Devastator: Oh.

07:27:08 syv: It allowed a fully configurable player cap, like the base game.

07:27:24 syv: So something in the MP scripting takes that away. For some fucking reason.

07:29:54 syv: Why even design it this way?

07:31:02 Devastator shrugs

07:31:13 Devastator: Any help with the community discord or something?

07:31:39 syv: ...Looking up modding guides might help, yeah.

07:34:42 syv: Their forum is just dead.

07:34:48 syv: Last modding post in 2019

07:35:01 syv: Mod broke sometime since 2021

07:35:47 ER: gaem ded

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09:19:27 syv: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546439502609121292/1127529198983073862/man_vs_world_5mp.zip

09:19:31 syv: Final version of mod

09:20:18 syv: Don't think you need to install it? Not 100% sure. This reverts the enemy capacity modification, because the way max players works now, it'd easy to control.

09:31:54 Devastator: kk

09:33:57 Devastator: Installed it anyway.

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