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02:47:02 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: MJ should read Extinction!
02:47:02 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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04:48:27 Devastator: There was a dr glaucomflecken about fireworks yesterday.
04:48:34 Devastator: "Fourth of July month?"
04:48:52 Devastator: "Yeah, it just started as celebrating the day, but it seems this community really loves explosives."
04:52:57 sy: I'd expect for a doc, July in general is a case surge, just peaking on the 4th
04:53:26 sy: My dad's talked about once having a party where he and a bunch of friends were drinking and shooting skeet
04:53:44 sy: They stopped after one of them shot another guy's hat off while trying to hit skeet
04:55:13 Devastator: I have some stories like that, yeah.
04:56:24 sy: Something something "and then he was launched fifty meters when the tree rebounded back, and somehow he landed unhurt in the snow"
04:56:41 Devastator: Yeah, I think I've said that one before.
04:56:45 Devastator: wasn't quite that far, but yeah.
04:56:57 Devastator: Shame he was out of town when you visited.
04:57:09 Devastator: wanted to get him in the same room as your dad.
04:57:26 sy: Hahaha, yeah, that would be entertaining
04:57:57 Devastator: Yeah, but.. well, pretty normal for the summer to have most of my friends out working somewhere.
04:58:01 sy: My dad has a lot of "this was very stupid, but we thought it would be fine at the time. Somehow it was!"
04:58:02 Devastator: right now there's.. one.
05:00:52 sy: Did you watch that combat footage,
Dev?
05:00:58 sy: My unreliable IRC doesn't have record
05:02:44 Devastator: Missed that earlier. Pretty interesting.
05:03:10 sy: "The professionals always run away first"
05:04:26 Devastator: In this case he's referring to those who have survived.
05:04:30 Devastator: makes sense, really.
05:05:16 ER: don't run away = don't survive = don't get paid = not a professional
05:06:09 Devastator: But yeah, that's what's going on. The long-term professions are the ones who survived by letting others get shot for them.
05:28:26 sy: If McDonalds decided to form a PMC and overthrow the USA's government, with all the leaders being in on it and having 100% loyalty to the plan, how well do you think they would do?
05:28:48 Devastator: like, not even close.
05:29:00 sy: That's why I asked "how well"
05:29:41 Devastator: Depends on the situation.
05:29:41 Devastator: But not well, not really.
05:29:59 Devastator: If they had a PMC, they could probably operate on their barracks and training areas without issue, but things would get weird as soon as they enter a city.
05:30:49 Devastator: And if they did a long packed up road march against orders the relevant state NG would set up a checkpoint and stop them.
05:30:50 ER: what if we go back to the 90's and assume that Pepsi actually bought those soviet submarines
05:31:10 sy: How about overthrowing the government of Madagascar?
05:31:24 sy: No particular intervention from other states.
05:32:10 Devastator: Dont' know enough about Madagascar.
05:32:55 ER: it's basically Atlantis right
05:33:15 sy: It seems to be ~5% as wealthy as McDonalds.
05:34:17 sy: ...Man, Madagascar reported 68k covid cases.
05:34:53 ER: if we're not assuming perfect morale, states *probably* have a benefit in military matters against corporations relative to wealth
05:35:23 Devastator: Depends on a lot more details. I mean.. maybe? I just don't know much about the country.
05:35:26 sy: Something something US vs Iraq
05:35:42 Devastator: Sri Lanka's fairly poor, but you sure as hell couldn't coup that cleanly today.
05:40:02 sy: McDonald's tries to overthrow Russia, right now.
05:40:17 sy: They play dirty and have been preparing for years, unknown to everyone else.
05:40:54 Devastator: If they can shoot down planes and have a good plan, yeah, probably.
05:41:12 sy: I feel like a big issue would just be getting forces past other countries and into Russia. ._.
05:41:30 Devastator: Yeah, they'd have to be in the country somewhere.
05:41:51 sy: defending russia from mcdonald's
05:45:17 ER: you WILL be having fries with that!
05:48:20 Devastator: no flamethrowers in RwR.
06:04:48 Devastator: not completely, no.
06:59:10 ER: think I'll go lie down again
06:59:30 ER: rest I was getting before was nice but couldn't quite sleep
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11:20:03 sy: RWR should let you use the medkit on wounded enemies
11:20:50 sy: Give the enemy a unique handcuffed "death" pose, and spawn an ally of the same class/rank as the captured guy.
11:21:35 Devastator: You can use the medkit on wounded enemies.
11:23:53 Devastator: dunno if they join you but maybe.
11:55:49 Devastator: "Roll a will save."
11:56:14 Devastator: "Oh. He fails, and shoots.. the Seneschal.
11:56:32 Devastator: GM: "Does he really have an inferno pistol and a boltgun?"
12:00:03 Devastator: the player then came back and reminded everyone that after the captain, who was pretty lightly armed, got MCed and shot someone, he carried a rock in his hand.
12:06:07 sy: ...Oh, hey. Xenonauts 2 releases on the 18th.
12:13:20 Devastator: RwR does have range reduce the lethality of weapons, right?
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13:04:28 sy: No, range doesn't reduce lethality.
13:06:19 syv: Lethality is just a % chance. Weapons with over 100% chance automatically kill once, and then rolls again for the remainder; 150% lethality does 2 damage half the time, 1 the rest. It can go however high, modding in 350% lethality will sometimes do 3, sometimes do 4.
13:06:29 syv: Hit location, range, those don't matter.
13:06:32 Devastator: range does reduce lethality.
13:06:46 Devastator: yeah. Does full lethality out to X range, then drops.
13:07:02 Devastator: was using a MP5 for a while and it was really noticeable.
13:07:09 syv: ...I don't recall there being -any- range mult in the files.
13:07:29 Devastator: Use a MP5 for a while.
13:09:26 syv: <result class="hit" hill_probability="0.4" kill_decay_start_time="0.23" kill decay
13:10:00 syv: <result class="hit" hill_probability="0.4" kill_decay_start_time="0.23" kill_decay_end_time="0.38" />
13:10:40 syv: So it has a 40% kill probability at point blank, and has full lethality out to... a bit over half of whatever max range is.
13:11:05 Devastator: if it's time based might be related to bullet speed.
13:11:21 syv: MP5SD has 105 bullet speed, AK47 has 100.
13:12:34 syv: And in case you're curious, AK has 0.55 lethality, G36 0.5.
13:13:22 Devastator: I still like the G36 best.
13:13:26 Devastator: seems to be the most accurate.
13:15:31 syv: To compare with an SR, the M24's got a lethality of 1.0 (100%), with range 0.55-0.8. And a bullet speed of 180.
13:16:45 syv: If I'm understanding this right, the SR actually has the same accuracy as ARs--100%.
13:18:05 syv: It has 3.0 recoil, and 0.55 recoil recovery, though IIRC the bolt action makes that moot. AK is 0.4 per shot, with 1.2 recovery, while the G36 is 0.36 per shot with 1.38 recovery.
13:18:41 syv: IE its *followup* shots are more accurate, but its first shot isn't.
13:20:30 syv: Ohhh, no, I misread. That's base dispersion, I think.
13:21:07 syv: Accuracy is at the bottom, and I think is *targeted point*.
13:21:36 syv: Sniper rifle doesn't have it, which I guess means it's 100% in all stances.
13:22:29 syv: AK and G36 don't either. Only M16 does.
13:26:00 syv: M16 lists out varied accuracy multipliers for stances; 0.3 for moving while standing, and... prone, which is impossible to do. 0.75 for moving while crouched. 0.85 standing still, 0.9 crouched still, 0.93 prone still.
13:27:23 syv: Neither G36 nor AK have any of that. The M24 sniper also doesn't. So one would assume these are unnecessary and assumed to be default if not present, or outright dummied out and no longer used.
13:28:12 syv: And the former would imply that the G36 and AK have the same multipliers as the SR, because... there's nothing in the code to make them different.
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21:41:16 Topic set by syv [Thursday 29 June 2023, 06:20:36]
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