ERLOG 2023-06-14

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01:50:00 MJ: lo
01:50:40 MJ: syv Devastator ER
01:50:47 ER: hio
01:51:10 MJ: hiya ER, how're you?
01:59:25 ER: hmm
02:04:30 MJ: Did you know that you can sweat blood?
02:05:51 ER: no
02:05:54 ER: that sounds
02:05:57 ER: unnerving?
02:06:45 MJ: Yeah, it's pretty harmless, but yes
02:09:53 Devastator: 'lo
02:09:59 Devastator: Heya MJ.
02:10:03 Devastator: "It's harmless."
02:10:12 MJ: hiya dev
02:11:31 Devastator: exept for the blooding coming down your armpits.
02:11:46 MJ: Heh
02:11:53 MJ: You don't loose much blood
02:11:57 MJ: You've got plenty.
02:12:19 Devastator: That's a refreshing outlook to it.
02:12:24 Devastator: Also, mailed your jerky.
02:13:08 MJ: Whats cool is that it's essentially your sympathetic nervous system, fight or flight, getting so over activated that it so dialates some vessels that they leak into sweat glands, you see it mostly in cases of extreme fear or anxeity.
02:15:09 syv: Hello
02:16:20 syv: Does that mean your veins are basically squeezing so hard they leak?
02:16:34 Devastator: Hello syv.
02:16:38 Devastator: sent yours too.
02:16:38 MJ: Other way around, arteries are so dialated they leak
02:16:41 Devastator: hope it gets through.
02:16:59 MJ: At leas that's the theory
02:17:06 ER: huh
02:17:07 MJ: It's not a super well understood phenonomanon
02:17:10 ER: don't like that!
02:17:13 Devastator: I suspect it would be pretty immoral to run experiments.
02:17:29 MJ: Yes
02:17:55 syv: I look forward to it, Dev!
02:17:56 ER: just gotta hook up with some horror VR game developers for playtesting :p
02:19:32 MJ: If there is one thing I love about Canda is that you guys named your national day, Canada day, which I love as a name
02:20:06 syv: You could always call July 4 America day
02:20:18 syv: Though I guess it's not quite the same
02:20:31 syv: "States day" doesn't have the same ring
02:21:46 syv: ER, on the topic of stopping gamedev, you haven't considered two things.
02:21:56 syv: 1: I am not very good at making wise decisions
02:22:08 Devastator: Well, it stood to reason, MJ.
02:22:17 syv: 2: I mostly really want to avoid *group* projects, where I mututally rely on other people
02:22:20 Devastator: It was "Dominion Day"
02:22:24 Devastator: and then we weren't a dominion anymore.
02:22:41 syv: Damn, Dominion Day sounds terrifying
02:22:42 ER: I can't argue with wanting to add musket spam to things though, syv
02:22:49 Devastator: Yes.
02:22:52 ER: I'm a sucker for musket spam
02:23:00 MJ: Yeah Domnion day just sounds sinister
02:23:08 syv: Yeah I'll definitely code that in Spiderman, I think
02:23:37 Devastator: And we couldn't name it independance day because that didn't happen on one particular day.
02:23:48 syv: I had a guy make me an AK-47 model out of simple geometry so I could spawn it in dynamically. So I'll add that in too, make it functional.
02:24:15 syv: Though he seems to have made an AKS-74U instead.
02:24:29 syv: Not that it's a problem
02:25:43 ER: "I asked for an AK-47 but you gave me an AKS-74U! Incompetent! You're fired!"
02:26:22 MJ: Syv I think you've slowly just become project manager
02:26:49 Devastator: It's a better choice anyway for teenage girls?
02:27:13 syv: You think I'm not? :v
02:27:44 syv: I'm arguably the second in command in terms of actually dealing with people
02:28:05 syv: I'm not sure, Dev.
02:28:32 syv: Tempted to say yes, because it's just lighter and shorter. Much easier to hold and wield. But it kicks like a bastard.
02:28:44 Devastator: Well, that's correlated.
02:28:51 ER: PS total conversion mod for spidahman when
02:28:55 Devastator: and these teenagers have superstrength.
02:29:08 syv: Well, any 74 variant is definitely better for a teenager than a 47, so yeah. It's better.
02:29:24 syv: PS total conversion never
02:29:41 syv: Simply doesn't work, unfortunately
02:32:00 Devastator: dwarves?
02:32:10 ER: oh well, guess you'll have to develop the PS game from scratch
02:33:19 syv: I already did develop PS from scratch~
02:34:04 syv: I'd be up for dwarves
02:34:24 MJ: I can play a round or two sure
02:35:00 Devastator: schweet.
02:35:43 syv: ER?
02:35:51 ER: not tonight
02:35:56 syv: Ah, okay
02:41:29 Devastator: camo uniforms for sports teams should be banned.
02:41:31 Devastator: gah.
02:41:36 Devastator: no, they're just bad.
02:41:57 MJ: My copmps updating
02:42:06 Devastator: cops updating?
02:42:08 Devastator: watch out.
02:42:10 MJ: Heh
02:42:28 MJ: Dev have you ever seen the Boise state saftey disguise himself on their field?
02:42:40 MJ: It's the funniest thing I have ever seen in football.
02:43:32 Devastator: I have seen that clip, actually.
02:43:39 Devastator: it worked, didn't it?
02:44:10 MJ: It did indeed
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04:52:21 Devastator: mmm.
04:52:27 Devastator: anyway, hope the jerky reaches you ok.
04:53:12 sy: Indeed
04:53:42 sy is now known as syv
04:57:29 syv: But yeah, I think if China had the ability to take Taiwan in the first place--very much in question, or course--and didn't then have it blockaded by the US (and didn't have a major US counteroffensive), those also being questionable scenarios at best, they would have the ability to occupy and police it. They'd need to upscale their military, shift a lot of their income away from domestic matters, and have a very bloody and painful occupation.
04:58:24 syv: I think the main things preventing that are not wanting to engage the US, and the awful cost/benefit of the proposal.
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04:59:49 Devastator: i don't think they can come up with 2 million men worth of officers. The entire Xinjiang effort is something like 250k, and if they could do more, they would have done more.
05:00:05 Devastator: The US is also part of it, yes.
05:03:19 syv: I don't agree. Checked, and China's military spending is 1.7% GDP. US is 3.7%. And I think both could go much higher if it were prioritized. China's authoritarian, especially. If military were a priority, they could spend more on it, but it's just not worthwhile.
05:03:52 Devastator: I think their leadership knows that, syv.
05:04:37 syv: Yeah. They don't think taking Taiwan is practical in the near term. If at all.
05:05:28 syv: If your argument is that the current situation implies they aren't planning on it (unless they're very stupid, which is possible), I'd agree.
05:05:43 Devastator: I'm pretty sure they're planning it.
05:06:29 syv: Then I'm lost as to what your argument is :P
05:06:42 syv: Unless you mean "planning for it a decade from now" or something like that
05:07:13 Devastator: They're planning it but they haven't decided to execute it or not.
05:07:29 Devastator: and they know their officer limitations which is why their army is only 2-ish million.
05:07:34 syv: Ahh
05:09:15 syv: IMO, the hard part currently would be figuring out how to take over and hold the island. Which, to my perhaps biased mind, is more a question of beating the US military than of policing Taiwan.
05:10:12 Devastator: I don't know.
05:10:23 Devastator: The taiwanese really, really REALLY don't want to be ruled from Beijing.
05:20:28 syv: ...Only occurs to me now, but I bet Chinese leadership doesn't realize that.
05:20:45 Devastator: They tried a significant influence campaign which failed.
05:20:56 syv: Military numbers, they may or may not have a good grasp of that. But those are relatively easy.
05:21:26 Devastator: Russia not knowing that about Ukraine, yeah, I'd totally agree with that.
05:21:47 syv: Understanding how much people who are kinda like you *don't* want you as a ruler? That is a topic where authoritarians are very, very weak.
05:23:38 Devastator: Oh, new website I gotta remember about.
05:23:40 Devastator: https://www.whitehouse.gov/invest/
05:37:28 Devastator: Also really good Tom Scott episode.
05:37:35 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMlHDnbEIDA
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12:35:18 syv: Looking at a list of countries' military spending, and noticed Ukraine apparently spent *thirty-four* percent of its yearly GDP on the military, in 2022. Russia was "only" at 4.1%. According to SIPRI.
12:35:27 syv: I guess that's what an existential war looks like.
12:49:05 ER: yes
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17:32:25 ER: <3
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22:47:04 Devastator: hello syv.
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23:50:22 MJ: lo
23:50:27 MJ: syv devastator ER
23:50:40 Devastator: heya.
23:50:44 MJ: hiya dev
23:51:09 MJ: Nothing in my experiment worked, so I'm irritated.
23:52:22 Devastator: aww.
23:52:24 Devastator: that sucks.
23:52:32 MJ: Yeah, I dunno what's going on.
23:52:54 Devastator: in better news, your jerky made it to Richmond.
23:53:14 ER: oof
23:53:17 MJ: Oh nice
23:53:24 Devastator: No, not the one in Virginia. ;-p
23:53:28 MJ: Ah
23:53:28 Devastator: the one in BC.
23:53:30 MJ: Ah
23:53:39 MJ: I was like wow that was fast
23:55:11 ER: nyoom
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