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01:11:09 Devastator: gotta read the other dragon history updates again.
01:11:14 Devastator: to get the theming right.
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03:33:19 Devastator: welp, another entertaining game in AI survivor.
03:33:24 Devastator: shaping up to be a sweet season.
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04:26:58 ER: well I have a bandage on my finger but besides that I'm good
04:29:14 syv: Feel a little sorry for Fallacy
04:29:27 syv: Balancing Perplexicon is not easy at the best of times
04:29:38 syv: Having a progression system to do too is surely a headache
04:30:17 syv: And his players range from "has tried 5/20 spells" to "has tried 20/20 spells"
04:36:17 ER: he says he did this update in 30 minutes and compared it favorably to the work the GM of the mafia game we're in has to do processing all the night actions :p
04:38:44 syv: Somehow it took me three readings to understand "he says he did this update"
04:38:52 syv: It's not a bad sentence or anything
04:39:02 syv: My brain is just not firing on all cylinders
05:39:21 Devastator: but yeah, gotta do extinction.
05:39:28 Devastator: I know the story I want to tell, just working out how to tell it.
05:40:10 Devastator: I do like Irony, though. I thought I made it clear that there must have been some kind of stuff behind the Concordate before Trisamore already, but it's still a great point to make.
06:01:19 syv: You made it clear that the *Extinction of dragons* happened when the Concordat was still around. They're responsible, that's been clear.
06:02:00 syv: I'm not sure if it's been explicit that the exinction itself predates Trisamore. Trence does, yes. But maybe Irony thought Trence predated the extinction by a millenium.
06:03:03 Devastator: I mean that would be possible.
06:15:37 syv: ...I have to wonder if the concordat will pull out Trisamorian robot tech on us.
06:16:31 Devastator: Depends on how long you spend on act III.
06:16:41 syv: If they were a serious force before, through, and after the Trisamorian empire, you'd really expect them to have kept some books explaining it.
06:16:42 Devastator: but yeah, they can come up with attacks.
06:17:01 Devastator: Well, I could spoil that for you, but it's more complicated than that.
06:17:07 syv: You know, maybe the Concordat is responsible for the seeming technological stasis.
06:17:19 syv: I took that as just a setting conceit
06:17:20 Devastator: There's nobody around with the whole story.
06:17:35 Devastator: No, they were not involved in the fall of Trisamore.
06:18:36 Devastator: This also really isn't technological stasis. The main restriction there is the existance of magic.
06:18:39 ER: can you really call it a technological stasis if there clearly was more advanced technology earlier? :p
06:18:43 Devastator: but there are new things being devloped and improved.
06:18:59 Devastator: Yeah, the current state is significantly better than it was just after the collapse of Trisamore.
06:20:47 syv: I can call it tech stasis if it's to say it's not actually tech stasis and in fact aliens killed anyone who invented electronics!
06:22:43 Devastator: It's a bit weirder than that.
06:23:59 Devastator: but fair enough, it's tech stasis. ;-p
06:25:13 ER: I just realized the mental image I had for the concordat's physical bodies
06:25:39 ER: note the tiny little player character by his feet
06:35:11 syv: I've visualized them as the clone-expert aliens from the star wars prequels
06:36:24 syv: I forgot how absurd those alien's necks are, though
06:38:22 syv: The Sundered boss makes me think of the giant dead corpses in thrones that are in Elden Ring's eternal cities.
06:39:19 syv: You're sure they're not fightable~?
06:39:29 syv: Have you been spoiled for the end bosses?
06:40:31 syv: Elden Ring's final boss may be my favorite boss ever
06:49:13 Devastator: Better than that asshole? ;-p
06:51:47 ER: I'm not feeling particularly good about fighting more main bosses because fromsoft love throwing lightning speed twin scythe nuns at me when all I want is to go fight a gaping dragon or iron golem again
06:54:33 syv: Admittedly scythe nun is probably the other contender for favorite boss
06:54:42 syv: Who was "that asshole"
dev?
07:01:02 Devastator: but I'm not serious.
07:01:52 syv: No Dorren is not nearly as fun
07:02:29 syv: Scythenun and [REDACTED] are just insanely awesome, and super fun to fight.
07:02:47 syv: Scythenun is admittedly a better designed fight all in all, but [REDACTED] has great lore
07:03:10 syv: And mechanically I had more fun with the latter... arguably.
07:03:24 syv: Elden Ring DLC will surely exceed both.
07:03:39 syv: Oh yeah and Malenia is cool too
07:05:09 ER: it's much more fun to execute in sekiro than to roll around awkwardly and get caught by attacks designed to rollcatch and realize that I was not supposed to use a greatword or miracles to beat the game
07:05:55 ER: sekrio at least warns me with a big red sign when my default defense technique isn't going to work
07:06:49 Devastator: Also, I think I'll delay the update until tomorrow.
07:06:56 Devastator: got two ideas fighting it out in my head.
08:09:25 syv: I beat the final boss of
ER with a UGS and no shield...
08:10:26 syv: Malenia seems bad for heavy weapons. Which don't include regular greatswords, they're medium weapons.
08:11:18 syv: Miracles are OP, literally trivialize the final boss unless you insist on using holy damage, which is less than half of the damage miracles.
08:12:16 Devastator: should tell Trence he's got a medium weapon.
08:12:49 ER: I'm talking about DS3, of course
08:13:17 syv: Well I can't comment on heavy weapons in DS3
08:13:49 syv: Miracles in DS3 are actually really good, I beat Friede with a Solaire cosplay using lightning spear a lot.
08:14:28 syv: Poise, plus high damage and stun, you just have to accept some damage.
08:15:52 syv: I wouldn't say any spells in DS3 are good. It's not a fun, well made part of the game.
08:16:00 ER: hmm, felt vibrations in the floor from that lightning
08:19:33 ER: most lightnings in the world don't shake my floors
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08:38:03 Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55]
09:56:03 Devastator: yeah, it's been back all day.
10:09:30 syv: I noticed. It just cycled.
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