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02:21:13 Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55]
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03:02:27 syv: Hey
MJ, is "mergo" latin for something like "I am drowning"?
03:02:55 MJ: I might be thinking of a different word
03:03:09 syv: It's the name of a very important eldritch baby in Bloodborne.
03:03:53 MJ: Ah, I think mergo is latin for drown, or something else bad
03:07:51 Devastator: First ep is called 'bump'
03:08:14 MJ: I wonder if since I have a new computer If I'll have the same weird issue with the credits
03:08:36 MJ: What's the name of the video player that can play anything?
03:08:53 MJ: Ah thanks, lemme get that real quick
03:10:05 MJ: Should I enable album art and metadata?
03:13:12 MJ: I'm gonnna guess this is either cancer or hematoma
03:13:22 MJ: Or some kind of inflamation
03:13:34 Devastator: I think the end of season episode is called 'cancer'
03:14:22 Devastator: IIRC, this is lighter and fluffier season, compared to Black.
03:14:24 MJ: Immmune system thinks evertyhing needs to die
03:14:47 MJ: HOneslty your immune system is pretty omincidal
03:15:03 MJ: Like it will murder everything if your thymus doesn't murder it's cells first
03:15:09 Devastator: Didn't they do a bunch of episodes on filtering out bad immune cells?
03:15:24 MJ: Yeah, but like viruses can cause autoimmune problems
03:15:28 Devastator: and yeah, there's the killer T cell.
03:15:31 syv: With the final test basically being "just don't murder the friendlies"
03:15:39 Devastator: otherwise you get pitted.
03:16:01 MJ: Yeah I mean the thymus is essentially a murderous drill sergant who will murder you if you don't show precisely the right amount of agressin
03:16:20 MJ: this show has gotten so much better now that I know even more about immunology
03:17:02 MJ: cappilaries are literally one cell wide
03:17:36 Devastator: It's necessary, isn't it?
03:17:41 Devastator: to keep backflow from happening.
03:18:03 MJ: well it also ensures the RBC's get rid of as much oxygen and absorb as much CO2 as possible
03:18:28 MJ: now I need to know if macrophages can sustain themselves on just bacteria
03:18:41 Devastator: Don't they run out of killy stuff eventually?
03:19:02 MJ: Uhh, some some immune cells do but macrophages literally just kill shit by eating
03:19:17 MJ: So like I wonder if they can absorub nutrients by killing
03:19:25 MJ: Fuck I'm asking the proff tommorow
03:19:47 syv: They need oxygen too, yeah?
03:19:54 MJ: Also it turns out histologically platlets are actually adorable.
03:20:22 MJ: I don't think they do honestly, they're pretty independent
03:21:23 Devastator: They do a lot of work to get around not having names, don't they?
03:21:55 MJ: to be fair I'm prety sure if cells could talk they would constnatly make fun of any kind of mutaiton
03:22:31 MJ: This dude needs to get injured less if his platlets are this stressed out
03:22:50 Devastator: Don't cha remember season one? This guy almost bled out.
03:22:52 syv: He did suffer from a severe neck wound at the end of season 1
03:24:28 Devastator: So no cut this time?
03:24:34 syv: I can't believe RBC fucking died
03:24:56 MJ: just a bunch of blood pooling in your
03:25:25 MJ: But it's most prominent on the head because there's nowhere for it to go
03:26:20 MJ: Their entire job with hematomas is die horribly and help clot things
03:26:39 MJ: Everything the immnune system does is awesome
03:27:22 MJ: this dude needs to get injured less
03:27:33 MJ: Fucking bind the fucking woudn you conccused dumbass
03:28:14 Devastator: okay, so what's this?
03:28:28 MJ: I actually don't know much about them
03:28:29 Devastator: what's it doing out here?
03:28:47 MJ: bone marrow is fucking weird
03:29:23 MJ: I like how she's got a baby because she esssentially makes shit
03:29:25 syv: Is there marrow in the skull plates?
03:29:39 MJ: Uhh, at least I don't think so
03:29:52 MJ: As far as I know it's only in long bones
03:31:31 MJ: Also bone marrow is weird, it's part of why long bones don't give a fuck about breaking
03:31:49 MJ: Like you can break a long bone all you want and it will heal perfectly
03:32:22 syv: ...Huh, there IS red marrow in the skull
03:33:06 MJ: I guess it makes sense I think coyotes eat skulls
03:33:23 Devastator: "It must have bone marrow because coyotes eat it."
03:33:55 MJ: I mena coyotes don't actually eat bones, they just crack the marrow
03:34:35 MJ: I forgot how much I liked this
03:34:53 MJ: wow there rewally is bone marrow in the skull
03:35:02 Devastator: and the lone green man.
03:35:03 MJ: I'm about to be really annoying in class tommorow
03:35:13 Devastator: Your classmates don't watch this?
03:35:13 syv: He was middle management, right?
03:35:24 Devastator: he was a 'dendritic cell'
03:35:36 MJ: Oh yeah, those guys are all about cordination
03:35:46 Devastator: I also remember spy guy was some kind of WBC we didn't know much about.
03:36:24 MJ: I do like the immune system because it's so weird that like not much of it is known about
03:36:44 MJ: Oh fuck, aquiried immunity, this will be fun
03:36:50 syv: "Acquired Immunity-Peyers"
03:37:02 syv: And yeah, the immune system also has a lot of... story and excitement
03:37:11 syv: It's constantly fighting wars and such
03:37:23 Devastator: 40+ trillion cells..
03:37:26 MJ: So the peyers patches are like dystopian survaliance equip,ent
03:38:09 MJ: So is it contractually required that animes tottaly change their theme song every season?
03:38:12 Devastator: there was the crazy memory cell guy.
03:38:16 Devastator: ..I think so, actually.
03:38:22 Devastator: most of them seem to do it more often than that.
03:38:40 Devastator: so are we gonna see blue umbrella mystic WBC again?
03:38:41 MJ: memory cells are nuts honestly, their whole job is essentially think the apocolphyse is about to happen at any point.
03:38:44 Devastator: favorite char that.
03:38:50 syv: I like how all the foreign cells have monsterous designs. Only human cells look human.
03:39:02 Devastator: that's probably about right, actually.
03:39:09 MJ: I mean to be fair to your cells they do look monsterous
03:39:17 Devastator: yeah, but they look human to each other.
03:39:24 MJ: Thouh also to be fair literally evertyhing tha'ts not you looks monsterous
03:39:31 MJ: Oh is this gonna be about vaccineS?
03:39:39 MJ: Or just lame ass virus infections
03:39:40 Devastator: 'acquired immunity', so yeah, maybe.
03:41:11 MJ: If only because this is essentially how I think
03:42:54 MJ: Also did you guys know mumps can make you sterile?
03:44:18 MJ: Heh, me taking any med school test
03:44:32 MJ: Oh I passed my third test so yay!
03:45:30 MJ: Yes, this is fucking vacciens
03:45:39 MJ: Fuck yes, I fucking knew it
03:45:48 MJ: I fucking love vaccine stuff
03:46:41 Devastator: ..Do you only have so many of those and they live as long as you do, or..?
03:47:05 Devastator: If they have to reproduce I'm wondering how they work.
03:47:17 MJ: I'm not sure if that's actually well understood
03:47:52 MJ: some live super lonng some don't
03:48:13 MJ: Ah mumps, what a fucking scourge.
03:48:31 Devastator: well makes sense since IIRC the whole thing about the immune system is insane variety.
03:48:55 MJ: In theory you can make an antigen against essentially anything that exsists
03:49:06 MJ: Except maybe some kind of deep sea bacteria
03:49:27 Devastator: uh oh, killer Ts are late to the party.
03:49:34 Devastator: they're probably not happy about it. ;-p
03:49:39 MJ: but it's thought that like they probably couldn't interact with you either?
03:49:46 Devastator: DO WE GET TO SEE THE SANDWICH FACTORY?
03:50:16 MJ: heh, to be fair she doesn't have a bran
03:50:35 Devastator: need more carry space.
03:51:00 MJ: RBC IMO are about as close to a protien as you can get and still techincally be a cell.
03:51:07 MJ: They do literally one thing.
03:51:20 MJ: And they don't even breath like eukarytoes
03:51:48 MJ: I'm not sure from the char design
03:52:00 Devastator: It's pretty common isn't it?
03:52:53 MJ: Also weird thing about cholera is that it only get's angry once it gets infected with a specific virus that causes it gain toxins
03:53:14 MJ: I'm actually not very familiar with camploybacters
03:54:25 MJ: Hmm, yeah I don't know much about these ones
03:55:41 Devastator: I do admit sharkbutt is a good character design.
03:56:16 MJ: Heh, making the intersialn epithelial cell a scuba diver is a great idea
03:56:47 MJ: Uhh it's easier if I show a picture
03:57:27 MJ: Essentialy there's a part where you small intestine turns into your large intestine.
03:57:40 MJ: There's a bunch of places for bacteria to go wherever.
03:58:02 MJ: But therefore your immune system has these things called peyers patches which are well this
03:58:40 MJ: Think a giant trap mixed with a survaliance camera
03:59:05 MJ: It both kills shit and also tells your immune system what exactly is going on in the intestines
03:59:25 MJ: As I recall theres some weird shit that goes on when they're dysfunctional
03:59:35 MJ: But I dunno, we haven't gone over that
04:00:13 MJ: this kind of shit is how I remeber pretty much all biology
04:00:21 MJ: Uhh, lemme check how far away my thing is
04:00:26 Devastator: also no sandwich factory.
04:00:47 MJ: I mean it's essentially in between the water and the actual facotry
dev
04:01:46 Devastator: I just want to see the depiction.
04:02:55 MJ: It's at 9Am and it's a 30 mintue drive
04:03:24 syv: Well, that sounds like we should call it a night, then
04:03:45 syv: No worries, I enjoyed you coming around to watch
04:04:05 syv: Thanks for making the time. ^-^
04:04:32 MJ: I mean this whole show is essentially a combination of nam flashback and a literal interpreation of how I rember any of this shit with much less cursing.
04:04:54 Devastator: be back soon for more.
04:05:01 MJ: As
syv can vouch when I describe these pathways there is a fair amount of cursing
04:05:52 syv:
MJ's also reached the point in medical education where there's a bunch of "And the next step isn't known to science"
04:06:10 MJ: Which is really fucking annoying
04:06:38 syv: It does tickle me that a component in the knowledge you're tested on is literally "I don't know. Nobody does."
04:07:10 MJ: It's like oh how does this work, 30 mintues of hours of googling later, oh fuck me, this guy's entire disseration was essentially yup I spent 6 years studying this, fuck if I knwo
04:07:43 syv: Standing on the shoulders of giants, there
04:07:44 MJ: But yeah, I do occasionaly get tested on components of which the underlying mechanism is essentially unkown.
04:08:10 MJ: Like people know it does stuff, but they have no idea why it would do this stuff
04:08:22 Devastator: It's how things go forwards.
04:08:30 MJ: So at that point lies to children don't even cut it, we're at like fantasy for adults
04:09:57 MJ:
Dev you ever read The Science of Discworld
04:10:00 syv: "Fantasy for Adults" sounds rather... different.
04:10:33 Devastator: No, I haven't read the science of discworld.
04:10:54 MJ: You'd enjoy it's where I got that lies to children line from
04:11:39 Devastator: well, could maybe read it tonight.
04:12:40 MJ: But fuck, it is fucking weird that like a lot of things that are incredibly importnat to like exsisting, like oh I dunno, how the fuck the fucking signal from your neurotrasmitters is actually transfered from the receptor on the surface of your muscle to the rest of your muscles is just tottaly unkown
04:12:54 MJ: Like just fucking not known, no one has any solid idea.
04:13:10 Devastator: "How does static charge work."
04:13:29 Devastator: We do figure out stuff like that sometimes!
04:13:31 syv: Hey, both of you follow XKCD~
04:13:38 Devastator: I bought his recent book.
04:13:49 MJ: I'm getting it as a birthday present
04:14:03 syv: I just find it amusing how both of you referenced that specific comic strip
04:14:16 syv:
MJ brought it up the day it was published
04:14:16 MJ: It describes so many things so well
04:14:20 Devastator: well it was like a couple days ago.
04:16:07 MJ: Like when I was a kid and asked how tlyenol worked my mom just told me that I'd understand it when I was older, and then it turns out she just meant that like no one really knew and she knew I would never stop asking her about it if she just said that. Mostly cause I was somewhat insufferable as a child, but still.
04:16:24 syv: In a way, maybe she was right
04:16:31 syv: It might be answered during your lifetime
04:18:01 MJ: So he did a reverse lord of the rings
04:18:59 MJ: if your feeling child tramatizing
04:19:19 Devastator: kid beowulf, apparently.
04:20:14 MJ: right so a reverse lord of the rings, take beowulf and make it a kids book, but just adapt beowufl instead of making the hobbit
04:20:34 MJ: This is....dissapointingly accruate
04:21:27 Devastator: smbc is good, but you can't take it in large quantities.
04:21:54 MJ: Otherwise you just kind of gaze into the abyss
04:22:09 MJ: Or however the fuck you spell that
04:22:15 MJ: Oh fuck. I need to go to befd
04:22:22 Devastator: Yes, but Zack Weinersmith himself isn't a cynic.
04:22:28 Devastator: he just draws it so wlel.
04:23:59 syv: I'd get that for my sister, but her oldest kid is only three.
04:24:34 MJ: I mean I couldn't read until I was 7 so you've got plenty of time.
04:24:46 Devastator: I suspect it would be fine to read to ones kid.
04:28:10 syv: ...Yeah he really only does cynicism
04:28:56 Devastator: and whipped out Beowulf the children's story from car rides.
04:31:33 syv: That makes a lot of sense to me, really
04:31:51 syv: "I was trapped with a child for a period every day, and I really wanted to make the child happy."
04:32:01 syv: "I succeeded and wrote down what I did."
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05:41:16 syv: Testgames really work very well. "Let's try this idea out, see how it works, and refine the system, in a quick way with people who have a decent understanding of how games work."
05:48:22 syv: I think they've been certainly a fantastic way for me to learn about designing and running games. I've only run one proper forum game, but it worked really well, due to it and my own abilities being developed through testgames.
05:49:15 syv: The who,e system in the BR, which I'm mostly very happy with, is also the product of lots of tests.
05:50:31 Devastator: ugh, should do Quest.
05:50:41 Devastator: and roll to see if the snake comes back.
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