ERLOG 2022-04-08

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04:48:16 syv: Mmm.
04:51:29 Devastator: heyo.
04:52:33 syv: heyo.
04:53:47 Devastator: that' mostly just a time-buying update in Extinction.
04:53:56 Devastator: want to think about the encounter for a day or so. ;-p
04:56:14 syv: Reasonable.
05:06:36 syv: Be back later
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07:26:53 Devastator: welp, I promised quest, didn't I.
07:43:45 ER: I suppose
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07:50:29 Devastator: allo.
07:57:21 Devastator: doing quest.
07:59:29 Devastator: sent.
07:59:32 Devastator: both your turns.
07:59:38 syv: Alright
07:59:52 Devastator: no hurry.
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08:31:07 ER: ta-daaaa
08:37:06 syv: Da-daaa
08:37:21 syv: ER, I think you'd like a mod for ER
08:37:37 ER: erererer
08:37:38 syv: www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/31
08:38:02 syv: Lets you hotkey items and spells, and removes the input delau on rolls
08:40:19 ER: hm
08:40:35 ER: keyboard quickcast would certainly be a boon in pvp
08:40:47 Devastator: what's the downside?
08:41:16 ER: could go full int faith with a seal and staff and play it as an entirely different genre
08:46:01 syv: The downside is you have to download and set up a mod
08:46:10 syv: ...And play on KBM.
08:46:35 syv: Though I suppose you *could* get it to work with a controller, using some intermediate software.
08:47:06 syv: KBM these days is almost objectively superior to controller play.
08:47:15 Devastator: always was. ;-p
08:47:19 syv: It's very much meta in high level pvp
08:47:28 syv: No, it used to be considered inferior.
08:47:39 Devastator: (I mean in general.)
08:48:15 syv: Controller has slightly better attack angling since you're not restricted to eight directions with WASD.
08:48:34 ER: well, the mouse implementation in ptde was rather scuffed
08:48:42 syv: That too
08:48:53 syv: Default binds were fucked.
08:49:06 Devastator: mouse? ;-p
08:51:51 syv: I like ER a lot but the multiplayer systems give me pain
08:53:41 syv: Too much really OP broken shit
08:54:03 syv: Dubs sent me a video of a weapon art that is quick and a guaranteed oneshot on *anyone* if it lands.
08:54:38 syv: And then mandatory ganks. Unless you use a red sign, in which case the summon still has large disadvantages.
08:54:41 Devastator: nifty.
08:55:37 syv: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4EIAOz7FN4
08:56:08 syv: The only reason it's unknown is that it looks and sounds like absolute shit if you don't test it on enemies and pay attention.
08:56:22 syv: It's named the same as the weakest sorcery in the game
08:56:45 syv: And if you use it, has far smaller range without the homing of said sorcery.
08:57:00 syv: But it does MASSIVELY more stagger and damage...
08:57:15 ER: huh
08:57:31 ER: yeah I assumed that was just a copy of the spell
08:57:42 ER: letting folks with no int use it
09:02:01 syv: The same vendor sells "spin your weapon in a big circle right in front of you"
09:02:02 syv: Which O
09:02:11 syv: I've actually tried, and seems to be useless.
09:02:31 ER: only skill which goes in staffsm I've found
09:02:51 syv: As well as glintblade phalanx, which is... literally just letting melee builds use that spell, yeah.
09:02:56 syv: Ahhh, it's a staff ash?
09:03:11 syv: Then that makes a little sense, if it does any better damage when upgraded.
09:03:25 ER: nah, he doesn't sell phalanx, he sells the trailer magic greatsword skill
09:03:33 syv: It's useless in comparison to other arts.
09:03:36 syv: Oh?
09:03:40 ER: where you hold up your sword and it turns into a big blue sword
09:03:42 syv: Hum, well that one seems okay too
09:04:00 syv: I should try it
09:04:14 syv: My expectation is that it's trivial to counter by just walking away
09:14:10 syv: ....Another asinine decision they made was allowing many infusions to just be added with whatever ash.
09:14:57 syv: In the other DS games, there's "normal" weapons, which can have any infusion. Fire, magic, whatever. Then there's "special" weapons which often have a base infusion, but can't have it changed.
09:15:20 syv: Ashes of war are both a unique attack you can add, and a vehicle for infusions. Magic ash? Magic infusion.
09:15:50 syv: Buuut with the right items, you can just apply whatever infusion on whatever weapon. Frost, with any slash. Don't need a frost ash.
09:16:44 syv: As a bonus, the unique weapons with their own infusions... can't have ashes applied. So they're trash by default, because their base special attacks are typically worse than a good ash.
09:17:31 syv: It would make so much more sense to have infusions locked to a related set of ashes. Want a frost weapon? Well you can't use sword's dance, because that only does keen and normal infusions. You have to have a frost ash.
09:18:19 syv: Unless you use a unique which has frost by default, which can have the slash, but then you have to suffer whatever shortcomings the unique has (and it's still less flexible because if you can't change the infusion)
09:22:24 syv: Statuses are also terribly OP. I have a frost naginata, at level 0, and mostly everything out it is relatively fair. It doesn't have any of the absurd broken oneshot attacks.
09:23:17 syv: Buuut it has good range, speed, moveset, and ash availability... and innate bleed. Which unlike every elemental infusion, doesn't stop you from changing the infusion. So I have it on frost. Which essentially is a second bleed infusion.
09:24:06 syv: At +0 it sometimes has better DPS than normal +10 weapons, because after eight strikes or so it will suddenly do 40-60% of an enemy's health. Even through shields.
09:26:50 ER: doing multiple statuses at once is very strong, yeah
09:27:36 ER: might be understandable is you had to put like, bleed resin on your frost sword
09:38:19 syv: I think resins are disabled for infused weapons
09:38:59 syv: So you can basically only do bleed + whatever. Unless there's other infusable statuses, but I haven't found any.
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