00:07:24 ER: hmm, didn't expect to wait this long for the install. but it's not that long in comarison, right...
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00:25:52 MidJag: Oh wow, I'm suprised your awake.
00:26:01 MidJag: Isn't it like super late in Russia?
00:26:40 MidJag: You fit in well here then~
00:27:29 MidJag: Heh, well what've you been up to? I'm pretty sure it's been years
00:29:22 Nikitian: Working my way towards a ruleset and eventually a forum game of my own on bay12forums
00:29:58 MidJag: Yeah, damn, I think last time I talked to I was about to go to college
00:32:45 MidJag: I've heard it's really good
00:35:21 MidJag: But cool, what kind of setting
Nikitian?
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00:38:08 Nikitian: Oh, a sort of multiverse-traversing game where both magic and technology exist at different levels in different worlds; I'm working on a way to implement diverse worlds in a consistent and logical way
00:38:59 Nikitian: It took me years to come up with some solutions, but I think I'm getting close to finally running it :)
00:39:24 MidJag: So kinda like rimworld meets MTG?
00:39:55 Nikitian: Hmmm, yeah, sounds about right
00:40:36 MidJag: I'm not doing much RPG stuff, I did get into a med school though, so I'll be crazy busy in a couple of months.
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00:45:11 Nikitian: Oh, sounds great! Well, probably very busy and tiring with the pandemic and everything, but still very nice achievement. Wish you successfuly finish it with great marks,
MidJag
00:45:36 MidJag: Indeed, it'll be a long road but I'm excited
01:06:44 ER: well, having technical difficulties
01:07:05 ER: opens to a white screen and then closes again :p
01:07:14 MidJag: That is indeed a problem
01:07:59 ER: so... having steam verify the installation?
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02:21:02 syv: ...I hope you're doing okay
02:21:15 Nikitian: Nice to finally catch you online completely by chance :)
02:21:25 syv: Yeah I'm awake super early
02:23:24 Nikitian: Yeah, very nice :) Congrats on it finally releasing! I still remember the years where it was more like a fever dream than real expectation that it would actually release one day
02:24:27 syv: For a couple years I've had some of the fake fan art as my desktop
02:24:52 syv: For a long time people were creating intricate lore and memes about the game despite there being essentially zero information
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02:27:30 Nikitian: Buut, is it resin powder,
ER? And if it is, what type of damage does it apply? :P
02:28:06 syv: Probably human resin, dealing dark damage
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02:28:45 syv: Is your game working, Eggo?
02:29:33 Elastic_Ridicule: I said human pine resin, and that it deal dark because I'm going hollow
02:29:49 Elastic_Ridicule: but the messages got ate by my internet suddenly going
02:30:15 Nikitian: Well, guess your internet connection also went hollow!
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02:30:58 MJ: Watching war things with my twin again.
02:31:12 syv: It's summoning those who have gone astray
02:31:38 MJ: Guess I broke my homeward bone
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02:32:04 ER: do I need to wait for them to fix this or do I need to get a new computer
02:36:54 syv: There's a video suggesting to check graphics drivers and update them. :P
02:37:39 ER: I already downloaded the nvida driver which specifically *mentioned*
ER but I suppose I could check
02:38:36 syv: And then it suggests to open Nvidia control panel, go to PhysX configuration, and ensure it's pointing towards the GPU rather than the basic
02:39:25 syv: There's a reddit thread, with one reply
02:39:45 syv: "I fix it by unplugging my controller and keyboard then plugging them back in"
02:40:07 syv: Ahhh, the glory of on-release games
02:42:48 ER: can I play it at your house
02:43:34 syv: But sure, come visit and you can play after I get home and go to sleep
02:44:42 ER: why can't I even get to the title screen
02:45:08 ER: I can get it in DS3, I can get it in sekiro
02:46:22 Nikitian: Sad thing about updating drivers is when your graphics card stops getting new ones >.>
02:46:41 ER: screw it, I'm restarting windows again. maybe windows fucked up restarting the first time
02:47:00 Nikitian: Wish it works this time!
02:47:02 syv: Would it help if I, like, streamed it?
02:47:12 syv: Or would that make it worse? :(
02:51:22 Nikitian: No idea, both sound plausible :|
02:52:50 syv: He'll answer when he comes back. If he does. v.v
02:53:31 syv: Well it crashed for me on starting a new game.
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02:54:02 Nikitian: That's unfortunate :(
02:54:19 Nikitian: Hi
ER! I hope it's going to work for you this time :)
02:55:47 syv: Well it worked on attempt 2 for me
02:57:19 syv: Oh my god they're doing Body A and Body B again
02:57:29 syv: Without saying which one wears a bra
02:58:16 syv: Yes, they're genders. I assume.
02:58:23 ER: well if it doesn't work for you then we can do something else together :D
02:58:25 syv: They were in Demon's Souls.
02:59:59 syv: Hrm. They call body B "slender" body, and A "buff".
03:00:39 MidJag: I guess Elves are androgenous enough it doesn't really matter
03:03:17 syv: Yeah, it seems to periodically crash when... *something* happens.
03:04:30 Nikitian: By the way,
syv, after locating the ruins entrance, would you rather immediately start digging, or prefer
Devastator to punch a tiny hole through the layers of dirt to try to look at it? (He won't have enough power/hole width to dig with that spell outright, but that's one possible use I conceived.)
03:08:32 MidJag: So nik, whatcha make of conflict going on yeah
03:09:56 syv: Apparently Steam Overlay might be part of the problem
03:10:02 syv: Disabling it may improve things?
03:12:19 syv: So... biggest question on my mind is "Why?"
03:12:26 syv: I don't really see what Russia is gaining here
03:12:45 Nikitian: Hi! So, um, hello guys, sorry for barging into the happy Elden Ring discussion, but I'm a live Russian (as you can see from IP), AMA
03:13:54 MidJag: Uhh, so what's the overall feeling in Russia around now?
03:17:51 Nikitian: Anxiety, mixed with personal views on what's happening, I'd say
03:19:10 Nikitian: I'd say that a major part of the population supports the operation (war, really), and minor but vocal part tries to decry it, and yet a sizeable minority isn't concerned with it whatsoever
03:21:34 Nikitian: (the war is happening outside Russian borders, so they focus on their domestic matters, like the general economic issues we've been having for a while now)
03:24:58 MidJag: mmm, I don't have a lot of other questions that don't get really political.
03:25:08 Nikitian: Nah, feel free to ask those
03:25:45 Nikitian: (Sorry for slow reply to "Why?", it's a bit in-depth question that I don't want to answer simply on the surface)
03:25:58 MidJag: Heh, alright, so does most of Russia buy that Ukraine is like full of baby eating neo nazis?
03:28:00 Nikitian: Nah, they're, like, 2 or 5% or whatever of baby killing nazis, but as all nazis, they are incredibly loud, organised and more or less already frightening the Ukrainian government in submission :P (that's a more official view, if you want it to know)
03:28:06 Nikitian: As for your question...
03:28:46 Nikitian: I don't know if I can trust the validity of this data, but a recent widely-quoted poll suggested 73% of people support this military operation
03:30:38 Nikitian: This more or less matches the 65% to 80% support our president gets on elections (which, of course, is probably boosted, but he still represents the wishes and feelings of more than a half our citizens, by personal accord, and maybe something closer to two-thirds)
03:31:22 Nikitian: Note that we don't really like our government as much as our president, so yeah, it's one leader figurehead more than a party polling popular support or anything
03:31:36 Nikitian: ("like" quantitatively, of course)
03:32:38 syv: Distracted, ofc, but interested so far.
03:34:10 MidJag: Trying to think of other good questions
03:34:50 syv: If you've followed it, how well do you feel Russia is doing so far?
03:35:22 Nikitian: "Why" is very good, but kind of deep; you could try splitting it into smaller (of course, if you don't yet already know it)
03:36:30 Nikitian: I really don't know, and I honestly don't want to read any news from either side because, IMHO, at wartime both sides at war are going to bullshit, and that's to be expected; the only truth you can find when the dust settles and you can plainly see who won
03:36:46 Nikitian: (but that's my personal opinion on this)
03:40:32 syv: Mm, to be frank, my one notable opinion is that I'm disappointed in how well Russia has done. Crappy equipment, slow progress, too many choppers shot down too soon.
03:41:13 syv: I know a lot of the military avancements they advertise are really just very slim stuff that barely gets produced, because there's not enough funding for it... but I expected better still.
03:41:38 syv: Immediatwly "frame rate too low, logging out..."
03:41:59 syv: It won't let me login to lower the graphics settings now
03:43:26 Nikitian: Fair. Personally, I grudgingly respect how well the Ukraine has done, particularly the regular army regiments that I heard of.
03:44:56 syv: Yep, I'm surprised on that front.
03:45:10 syv: I expected better from Russia, and worse from Ukraine.
03:46:03 syv: Do you have more to say on why?
03:46:10 syv: Don't think you could be too detailed for me
03:46:18 Nikitian: As for "why": There is a minor genocide happening on our borders to Russian people (well, people are dying, including civilian people, just for the reason of self-identifying as Russians, wanting to speak Russian, keep their Russian-speaking culture, etc.), but this seems mostly a pretext/casus belli in this case (or we could really stop at recognizing the breakaway republics and reinforcing their positions with
03:46:18 Nikitian: our military without any further escalation - that's the scenario I feared and suspected just yesterday, or 30-something hours ago)
03:47:23 Nikitian: The official strategic reason is that this is our version of Cuban crisis, as we can't tolerate possibility of missiles this close; honestly, I have no idea if this is true, maybe it is to some degree, but I think it's not all yet
03:49:07 syv: Is referencing the cuban crisis an official line?
03:51:36 Nikitian: Almost; I don't think it's stated, but informally it's often brought up in comparison in our internal propaganda as "How would Americans like if we put our missiles on Cuba or in Venezuela?" (implying reciprocity of the scenario)
03:51:58 syv: Working on setting graphics lower now
03:52:07 syv: Distracted by IRC, as you can see
03:52:22 ER: tell me if you get to limbgrave, I'd watch a stream
03:52:31 ER: just don't wanna see stuff before then as much
03:53:06 Devastator: Didn't that exact thing happen, Niki?
03:53:10 syv: I think you'd be *very* interested in the convo
03:53:14 Devastator: And the result was 'they negotiated?'
03:53:19 Nikitian: Happy to catch you here as well
03:53:35 Nikitian: Yeah, they negotiated
03:53:41 Devastator: Although in that case it wasn't serious, because SLBMs are a thing.
03:54:17 Nikitian: Since you're here, and I finally caught you
03:54:20 Nikitian:
Devastator, would you use your Sunray to peek and confirm the entrance location (you can only make a long thin tunnel with it, but even a small tunnel is enough to look through, theoretically) or would you rather focus you efforts strictly on digging instead?
03:54:30 Nikitian: (just Fire things ^^" )
03:54:39 Devastator: give me a minute to read the thread.
04:00:55 Devastator: So the line is 'they're genociding russians in the territory occupied by our army?'
04:01:12 Devastator: I mean, that's understandable, but damn, that's pretty blatant.
04:01:52 Devastator: and as for Sunray, sure. It's what, 0.1 mana.
04:03:35 Devastator: because, I gotta be straight, the breakaway republics were loaded with russian army units. Pretty impressive to be conducting a genocide inside territory held by the army supposedly preventing that from happening.
04:05:43 Devastator: ahh, well, in 2014 the line was basically the exact same thing.
04:07:31 Devastator: they elected a president that Putin didn't personally approve of, which indicated an actually-independant country. That couldn't be allowed, so an invasion followed.
04:07:58 Devastator: because, you know, having a new leader following an election? That's impossible!
04:08:26 Devastator: In order to protect freedom, we need the incumbant to stay in power forever!
04:09:04 Nikitian: (one moment, still writing an expansive answer to "why", and it kinda goes beyond that :D )
04:24:06 Nikitian: (sorry if I'm too long, I tried to be thorough; also, this is my personal analysis on the matter)
04:24:14 Nikitian: The real real reason, I think, is that Ukraine is in many ways a former part of Russia, a Russian province-state, where Russian (and Russian-speaking) people live, and for 30-something years they have been antagonised against us; we could tolerate that, to some degree, especially when we were powerless to do anything about it. Well, looks like our president decided that it's time to change that
04:24:25 Nikitian: It's part that Ukraine is just as under US rule as Germany or more (so this is a war of liberation of our brothers from foreign rule - it's not direct rule or even occupation, but to us, or at least according to our official propaganda, they are like direct, if unruly, vassals of USA)
04:24:34 Nikitian: It's part that, for certain strategical reasons (be they misguided or actually brilliant, it's not for me to judge) western powers have encouraged anti-Russian sentiments in Ukraine for decades, which meant prepping up the local nationalists that are inspired by their nazi-serving grandfathers (they maybe weren't nazis then, but they certainly were wannabe-nazis, and by now they kinda realized that)
04:24:41 Nikitian: And also, as Ukrainian literature is intimately intertwined with Russian literature, and same for other areas of Ukrainian culture (there are some few Ukrainian poets that have nothing to do with Russia, but they are few; it's enough to say that Gogol, maybe the greatest Ukrainian writer, wrote in Russian, lived in Russia, and is considered one of great Russian writers as well) - so that literature and movies and
04:24:41 Nikitian: stuff are deliberately being dismantled or disencouraged, and in some ways Ukraine is losing its own culture out of anti-Russian bias
04:24:54 Nikitian: But really, at the end of the day, I think it's that we hate to consider Ukrainians (so, fellow Russians or meta-Russians) to be brainwashed against us; and we know that a lot of people still know that Russians are their brothers, and not enemies, and it is to save *them* that we are invading Ukraine right now
04:25:01 Nikitian: That is my opinion. I have Ukrainian friends, and even beyond that I wish Ukrainians peace and well-being. And unfortunately, the only way to stop this perversion of their very self, by foreign-answering and corrupt leaders, is apparently to dismantle the current regime and... well, whatever follows.
04:25:18 Nikitian: In Taras Bulba, an epic by Gogol about Ukrainian cossacks fighting against Polish rule in 17th century, there is a scene where Taras kills his son, Andrew, after the latter switched sides to the Poles out of personal love, and he says pretty famous words: "I begat (born) you, I will kill you". That is, in my opinion, the real "why" of the current war in Ukraine - either we'd have a friendly or even neutral state
04:25:18 Nikitian: of Russians and quite-Russians on our border, or it is our duty to end it, because really, we created it in 1990 (they didn't have a country for many centuries until we decided to break USSR apart). That is strictly my personal opinion, I have never heard anyone officially or internally say it, but that is how I understand and feel the situation.
04:26:13 Nikitian: Yep, Finland is good because Finland is really neutral
04:26:33 Devastator: They're heavily armed.
04:26:36 Devastator: Friendly with NATO.
04:26:46 Nikitian: (and that's what protects Finland stronger than any military pact, in my understanding)
04:26:48 Devastator: have signed many mutual defense agreements with the other scandinavian countries.
04:26:57 Devastator: have returned and chased off many Russian warplanes.
04:27:09 Devastator: bear strong ties with the united states..
04:27:44 Devastator: and were formally part of the Russian Empire until they successfully made their independance stick through force of arms.
04:28:40 Devastator: They were also co-belligerants with Nazis during the second world war.
04:29:02 Devastator: Seems to me, that it'd be just as justified to invade Finland.
04:29:05 Nikitian: Not quite, but close. AFAIK, they were granted independence by Bolsheviks (everyone was, really, it was just that Fins were among the few who stuck to it), which is why I think I've heard that Lenin is still quite respected in Finland
04:29:25 Nikitian: Might be mistaken on Lenin, though.
04:29:27 Devastator: That's what the official line is?
04:29:36 Devastator: They fought an incredibly bloody mini-civil-war of their own.
04:29:40 Devastator: like suuuuper bloody.
04:29:46 Devastator: between their own red and their own whites.
04:29:49 Nikitian: Oh, that much is true
04:30:14 Devastator: And they then fought a defensive war against the Soviet Unition after the partition of poland and the occupation of the three baltic republics.
04:30:26 Nikitian: Also, IIRC, the founder of their country is a white general that actually really wanted the Russian Empire back, but - couldn't get it
04:30:51 Nikitian: He was a staunch imperial white officer, as far as I know
04:31:05 Devastator: Oh, that's true, as far as it goes.
04:31:14 Devastator: but he's much more than that!
04:31:45 Nikitian: Sure, I admit that I'm not well versed how that transformed into leading independent Finland
04:32:13 Devastator: Well, one of the biggest parts of that was how bloody brutal the Winter War was.
04:32:42 Nikitian: Still, the thing is, until there was a military need to move the border, the Soviets were quite content to let Finland exist (instead of trying to retake it or something).
04:33:49 Devastator: well, basically, he didn't lead finland.
04:34:00 Devastator: There was a fairly strong movement to give him a crown.
04:34:02 Nikitian: Anyway, as a Russian I am obviously biased, but that's the perspective I can offer, if you want it :)
04:34:07 Devastator: ..which he was quite adamant about refusing.
04:35:08 Devastator: Ended up leading it for about as long as it took for them to write a constitution and retired once they formed a proper parliament and became a functioning republic.
04:36:06 Devastator: If he wanted a crown or some kinda monarchal arrangement, it would have been quite possible.
04:36:52 Devastator: Shoot, he wasn't even war leader at the start of the winter war.
04:37:02 Devastator: They had to call him back up to take command of the army.
04:37:32 Devastator: So nah, he never lead independant finland.
04:37:37 Devastator: founder, sure you could say that.
04:37:44 Devastator: but not in the sense he ruled the country.
04:38:38 Nikitian: Yeah, founder. Sorry for not quite correct
04:38:53 Devastator: Founder is right, but it's an interesting word choice.
04:39:09 Devastator: because there are many situations where the two have the same meaning.
04:39:14 Devastator: but not for Marshal Mannerheim.
04:39:41 Devastator: Still, though, it certainly seems like it'd be equally justified to invade Finland under that interpretation.
04:39:51 Devastator: ..outside of 'they're currently neutral'.
04:40:01 Devastator: since it was an election and a new government that lead to that changing for Ukraine..
04:40:07 Devastator: ..why not for Finland? They have elections too.
04:45:44 Devastator: It seems to me that the key difference is they fought off an attack by Russia successfully. So maybe that's come around again.
04:46:14 Nikitian: 'currently neutral' is, however, the real answer (and what we really asked of Ukraine for a long time after the independence was declared)
04:46:58 Devastator: as judged by.. the president of Russia?
04:47:42 Nikitian: Entrusted to lead the people of Russia by the will of the people of Russia (or the majority of them, anyway)
04:48:07 Devastator: ..that's what happened in Ukraine, though.
04:48:25 Devastator: they entrusted someone to lead the people of Ukraine by the will of the people of Ukraine.
04:48:30 Devastator: ..but that's not good enough.
04:49:23 Nikitian: Well, maybe. From our point of view, the real will of the people of Ukraine is ignored (esp. since the current president was elected on the promises of peace, and really easy steps towards it, which he failed to deliver)
04:49:34 Nikitian: Maybe we're wrong, it's hard to tell.
04:49:40 Devastator: and now I get to watch helicopter airmobile attacks on Kiev, dozens upon dozens of cruise missile attacks, MRLS strikes on cities, burned out tanks and BTRs...
04:49:49 Nikitian: I think it will only become clear after the dust settles, as I said.
04:49:51 Devastator: ..all inside Ukraine.
04:50:06 Nikitian: Civil wars are bloody.
04:50:41 Devastator: What steps were ignored?
04:51:14 Nikitian: "Just stop shooting (shelling)" was the slogan of his presidential campaign, AFAIK
04:51:58 Devastator: I remember the old line about the Molotov Cocktail.
04:52:09 Devastator: Why's it called that?
04:52:19 Devastator: A drink, to go with the meal...
04:53:33 Devastator: or petrol bombs to go with incendiaries being called bread.
04:54:35 Nikitian: And yeah, regardless of how silly or hypocritical, "for 'peace'" is really the official line of Russian government, and a sizeable majority of Russians believes in it (or, well, believes this cause to be righteous). I understand how incoherent or hilarious it might seem to an outside observer who does not see the situation this way, but - I hope our actions will speak for our beliefs. After the end of this war.
04:55:09 Nikitian: That's the only explanation I can give right now, unfortunately. :(
04:55:20 Devastator: Same old thing, though.
04:55:27 Devastator: all these people can't stop shooting at Russia.
04:55:48 Devastator: and then they suffer debellation a week or so later.
04:56:02 Devastator: surely, you'd think people would learn.
04:56:04 Nikitian: Yup! And the best part - we really believe it! And then we feel righteous, and ready to give our lives for the sake of the Motherland! Can you believe it? :D
04:56:09 Devastator: (sorry for the harsh language), it's not personal.
04:56:45 Nikitian: As I said, I try to understand how silly it seems to an outside observer who does not share our world picture.
04:56:50 Devastator: It really, truly, looks like there was nothing that could be done to satisfy Putin, and various strategic level things makes it look like it's been coming for a year or more.
04:57:17 Devastator: ahh, well. They're putting up a pretty good fight, but don't think it'll be enough.
04:57:34 Nikitian: It's been coming since 2014, really
04:57:54 Devastator: Although the recent belarusian election mighta put the schedule back a bit.
04:58:01 Devastator: had to settle things there first.
04:58:17 Devastator: coulda bought another year.
04:58:27 Nikitian: Maybe. Gotta deny the West a chance to destabilize our only brother-ally :P
04:58:46 Devastator: oh yes, said brother ally that voted 80% for their president. ;-p
04:59:12 Devastator: One of the few remarkable cases where there might have actually been more than 20% of the entire population on the streets protesting that result!
05:00:14 Devastator: Nah, the part I'm probably most sad about is seeing a line of Russian soldiers heading for the front. Kids.
05:00:39 Devastator: Looked like they well believed there wasn't any real fighting, that Ukraine was truly wanting to be saved.
05:00:52 Devastator: (in trucks, mind you.)
05:01:54 Nikitian: I can't vouch for how much they didn't expect real fight, but if they didn't believe Ukraine wanted their help to be saved - they probably shouldn't have been there and Russian military in general
05:02:11 Devastator: Oh yes, understood.
05:02:26 Devastator: anyway, back to the game?
05:03:31 Nikitian: Aand sorry if I wasn' polite or informative enough, I tried to do my best, be entirely honest and try to flag the parts where I understand that I'm subjective, and present them as such. Hope it satisfied you guys.
05:03:59 Devastator: anyway, sure, I'll cast the spell.
05:04:22 MidJag: Yeah it was an intresting perspective nik, thanks
05:06:31 ER: now is this game gonna fucking work some day
05:07:18 syv: Lemmw use the bathroom, then I'll set up a stream
05:07:22 Nikitian: Aand, I should probably head to bed now. 8 bloody a.m. =_=
05:07:32 Nikitian: Wish you managed to make it work for you,
ER!
05:07:37 syv: Well, I appreciate you showing up for us!
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05:30:10 Devastator: jump jump jump jump.
05:35:35 ER: the stream was a ploy to make you make less progress before I can play, muah ha ha
05:46:39 ER: those goats are the average ds3 player amirite
05:48:54 ER: the bone darts kind of look hollow, I wonder if you can upgrade them into poison darts ot something
05:54:21 ER: can't you continue the charge?
05:56:53 ER: maybe they changed the input from DS3, from pressing L2 then R2 to just holding L2 or something?
06:03:34 ER: hmm, if you have right hand empty and sword in left hand, is L2 the kick? you might be able to trip people up with that build
06:06:18 ER: cool boss, looks like a weird medivial drawing or something
06:08:02 ER: not sure if you're allowed to kick with a talismin though
06:09:31 ER: wow, you got hit by a hollow's torch and didn't get instantly stunlocked to death?
06:09:40 ER: these games have advanced so much
06:12:28 Devastator: in the wrong direction.
06:13:21 MidJag:
Dev in your opionino what would have been the right direction?
06:14:18 MidJag: Just an eternal fall through hell?
06:14:56 Devastator: meme torch hollows is good.
06:15:24 ER: magic poo which never stops being gross? why would we pick this up
06:16:44 ER: I think you can upgrade summon ashes, not weaponart ashes
06:27:48 ER: you put soul into them by crafting them, cly
06:28:55 ER: did the doggos make the fire
06:30:25 ER: were the dogs tending the flame then, or did you stumble in JUST as the dogs killed those guys
06:36:28 MidJag: I'm going to bed. Goodnight gentlemen
06:38:17 ER: same way you do in every other souls game...
06:44:27 ER: and you can do guard counters with a 2handed weapon~
06:48:22 ER: I feel like most animals are really good at running away before you could possibly get into melee range
06:48:37 ER: which is why a bow is a hunting weapon and a sword usually isn't
06:52:04 ER: damn nice you can chop off its limbs
06:53:55 ER: I admire the dedication to animating this thing
06:55:14 ER: yeah but all the humans in this world have gone mad
06:56:02 ER: it said white flesh is from bloodless creature
06:56:20 ER: though, I'm pretty sure that tortises have blood :p
06:59:27 Devastator: only small swords or big swords.
06:59:53 Devastator: did you pay for that note?
07:00:35 Devastator: well, someone got paid.
07:03:11 Devastator: even when no vitals.
07:04:31 Devastator: yeah, but skellybone.
07:04:39 Devastator: you're ramming it through the spine from the front, too.
07:08:59 Devastator: that seemed unwise.
07:10:27 Devastator: glory to the 12 souls.
07:13:27 Devastator: 1000 souls is all I see.
07:14:14 Devastator: did the tree eat the sun?
07:14:56 Devastator: I will admit, well-lit souls is a new experience.
07:21:33 ER: booted waifu > barefoot waifu
07:23:33 ER: there's one big ring in this game :p
07:25:44 Devastator: of course there's going to be secret endings. ;-p
07:26:19 ER: usually souls secret endings are from doing more bosses rather than challenge runs
07:27:01 Devastator: maybe the challenge run unlocks a bonus boss.
07:27:25 ER: I also kinda wonder if there might be more than one levelup maiden in this
07:28:08 Devastator: although I know I now need to do a SL1 blockless run if I ever play it. ;-p
07:28:38 Devastator: and keyboard only, natch.
07:29:09 Devastator: yeah, menuing, that thing I do so much of.
07:29:13 ER: you know that he wouldn't use the mouse, right?
07:29:28 Devastator: and yes, that's 'keyboard only'
07:29:43 Devastator: there was no mouse either.
07:32:55 Devastator: go home, man, you're drunk.
07:35:26 Devastator: that's a long poison effect.
07:36:08 Devastator: you picked up some immunizing cured meat.
07:37:31 Devastator: ahh, corpse marker on compass.
07:38:26 Devastator: so the horse has mobility 3?
07:38:52 ER: if it had that then it would be wallrunning
07:40:49 Devastator: no, not reasonable. That's mob 1 plus double-jump.
07:41:12 ER: torrent is basically a horse who is strong for his size, has the footing of a mountain goat, and can magic jump
07:41:48 Devastator: ..no, not really even for mob 1, but it's not that out of line for fantasy horses.
07:42:49 Devastator: I think you're just more suited for foot fighting.
07:44:22 ER: wait, is the way that your character sits down while menuing to prevent pvp quickmenuing?
07:45:08 Devastator: now you too can be a faceless mook!
07:45:43 Devastator: it's what you were standing in.
07:49:16 Devastator: dunno, never used one.
07:49:54 Devastator: measuring verticle angles.
07:50:38 Devastator: someone enjoyed breath of the wild.
07:51:16 Devastator: there's a lot of ways to launch yourself into the air.
07:52:04 Devastator: can you keep that guy?
07:52:52 Devastator: frik! <power of the i-frame>
07:53:59 Devastator: the friendly-fire guy with the seige weapon.
07:55:33 Devastator: also, breath of the wild has a lot of ways to fling yourself into the air.
08:01:46 Devastator: I don't know, i basically didn't talk with anyone in DS 3. ;-p
08:02:17 ER: I'd like to go to bed now and hope that I can play
ER tomorrow
08:18:20 Devastator: how long have they had that same door animation?
08:24:38 Devastator: Isn't evil cult the default for soulsbornes?
08:24:44 Devastator: Unless you're fluffdragon.
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08:26:37 Devastator: welcome to my world.
08:26:41 Devastator: (so easy to turn around.)
08:34:54 Devastator: The turtle is a symbol of slowness.
08:37:15 Devastator: nah, I meant the description on the shield.
08:37:54 Devastator: Most tortoises hibernate.
08:39:38 Devastator: not all of them, but more than a few.
08:39:55 Devastator: there's a joke, if you lose your tortoise it's hibernating somewhere and you can't find it. It'll show up months later.
08:40:49 Devastator: and you lose it because something that hides in a corner and doesn't move for four months is hard to find, sometimes.
08:44:35 Devastator: well, you don't need to worry about stuff hurting them.
08:52:01 Devastator: did you even get hit?
08:52:05 Devastator: oh, looks like once.
08:59:48 Devastator: never got to see a dragon!
09:01:26 Devastator: we got a serious trap.
09:02:13 Devastator: (kick their asses,
syv!)
09:06:27 Devastator: that was a nice kill.
09:07:36 Devastator: didn't you craft 30?
09:07:56 Devastator: like four people did that.
09:08:00 Devastator: and you did a Trence.
09:09:28 Devastator: don't say do not open. Say 'BAD BOX'
09:11:34 Devastator: one of those phantoms did that early on.
09:12:16 Devastator: maybe "Homeward Bone?"
09:14:20 Devastator: You're a tough kill,
syv.
09:15:31 Devastator: You didn't die many times for the danger levels.
09:19:01 Devastator: you went from doing 12 damage to 50 damage.
09:20:35 Devastator: that does sound fun.
09:29:30 Devastator: check the big door.
09:36:54 Devastator: I just wanted to see the boss hellbeast.
09:38:51 Devastator: maaaybe fast travel is a good idea.
09:47:14 Devastator: that dog was rough.
09:50:06 Devastator: lots of fungi have caps like that.
09:50:42 Devastator: a ball like that is weird, though.
09:50:55 Devastator: always a good sign that.
09:56:41 Devastator: don't you live in the swamp?
10:01:40 Devastator: that chest was a hell of a thing.
10:02:04 Devastator: heya Ice/Nature. ;-p
10:03:04 Devastator: skybox items are items somewhere. ;-p
10:05:59 Devastator: I'm Orrhen, the man of the Wooden Neck Disk.
10:06:07 Devastator: "I have no idea why they call me that."
10:06:49 Devastator: and has bells attached to him.
10:07:28 Devastator: it's 2 points for the basic heals.
10:07:35 Devastator: can probably afford that.
10:08:20 Devastator: looks like a statuette head.
10:11:43 Devastator: these NPCs are making me itch.
10:14:44 Devastator: dragontooth hammer.
10:14:52 Devastator: buy any plusses? ;-p
10:15:44 Devastator: That's some euphemism.
10:16:15 Devastator: yeah, but that lake of blood..
10:17:22 Devastator: could make a 'sage' joke.
10:18:08 Devastator: rude term for 'virgin male'
10:20:02 Devastator: tons of the bigguns.
10:21:21 Devastator: you've got a bunch of the top left stuff, right?
10:24:45 Devastator: the little rune things.
10:25:04 Devastator: it was on the sale menu from the werid shopkeep.l
10:25:32 Devastator: rune arcs or something.
10:34:53 Devastator: that was the MC from Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen.
10:35:06 Devastator: used just that kind of weapon as a casting item.
10:35:15 Devastator: had a sword to actually attack with in the other hand.
10:35:34 Devastator: I remember needing to block against the hydra and
PW asked me what I was screwing around with.
10:38:13 Devastator: gonna find that chest?
10:38:22 Devastator: I think I might knock it off soonish.
10:46:03 Devastator: well, you're going south.
10:46:36 Devastator: you know what that means.
10:53:44 Devastator: they put rats before it deliberately.
10:59:01 Devastator: be wary of ranged battle?
11:01:54 Devastator: tears is in concepts.
11:03:27 Devastator: back is in body parts.
11:03:38 Devastator: Tears, o tears, therefore BACK!
11:04:53 Devastator: maybe it's been rigged. ;-p
11:05:09 Devastator: the trouble is, people who went through it, can't vote on it.
11:07:06 syv: Heh, thanks for chatting and watching
11:07:38 Devastator: of course, all the signs might make someone want to see what it is.
11:07:41 Devastator: you know how things go.
11:08:19 syv: There's a similar event in DS2, where there's a lever that keeps a crazy murderer in jail.
11:08:23 Devastator: they wouldn't be playing Elden Ring on release day if they didn't enjoy some amount of suffering.
11:08:51 syv: There's like ten
dev messages saying "Go back!" in the corridor before, and one right in front of the lever saying "Don't do it!"
11:09:07 syv: If you pull it, the guy is released and will invade you in like twelve different areas.
11:09:20 syv: You also immediately fail his questline to get cool stuff.
11:09:52 syv: Mostly, I figure even if someone does open the chest after my messages, it's a good experience
11:10:04 syv: "Wow... this guy *really* hates this chest. I have to see."
11:10:22 syv: And then they'll see my sign saying how to get out.
11:10:33 Devastator: also, it's devilish putting rats in the room before it.
11:11:02 syv: IIRC, in the CBT, that chest has the reduvia dagger.
11:11:19 syv: So people who watched CBT vids and then decided to beeline for the dagger...
11:12:10 Devastator: I wonder if someone's named that chest in the wiki yet.
11:12:31 syv: Honestly, it's probably "The Chest" right now
11:13:02 syv: Everyone who's gone through knows exactly which chest is The Chest
11:14:47 syv: I googled "the chest in elden ring"
11:14:59 syv: Everyone knows exactly which chest is The Chest.
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11:37:46 syv: ...Apparently the chest might not actually be so hellish.
11:56:28 syv: Nope, The Chest hates you.
12:09:25 Devastator: Pumsy is not the chest.
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