ERLOG 2022-01-30

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00:37:06 mib_79a9kx has joined #einsteinianroulette
00:39:32 Devastator: Hello Piecewise.
00:41:51 mib_79a9kx: Hello
00:41:56 mib_79a9kx is now known as piecewise
00:42:09 piecewise: Heard canada is in the middle of some kind of Honk war
00:43:09 Devastator: Hmm, yeah.
00:43:30 Devastator: There's some around here. Mostly it's agitprop, get as many people as possible to be as annoying and disruptive as possible.
00:43:40 Devastator: Nothing about actual goals.
00:44:02 Devastator: Just cause trouble, pick sides, be jackasses.
00:50:16 piecewise: That seems to have been every protest on either side for the last...oh 6 years
00:51:12 piecewise: Its pretty funny to see both sides
00:51:28 piecewise: One side thinking its a bunch of heroes
00:51:35 piecewise: the other calling horn honking terrorism
00:51:53 piecewise: when in reality its mostly just idiots partying
00:53:43 Devastator: I wish they were partying.
00:54:22 Devastator: Nah, it's driving around in circles honking endlessly. And yeah, the goal is to make dialogue impossible, not to actually do anything.
00:55:00 piecewise: reminds me of those climate protests in britian where people were gluing themselves to the road and blocking ambulances
00:55:25 piecewise: No real clear message or goal, just vague cause and lots of chaos
00:56:15 Devastator: Yup. Annoying. I used to work with a lot of truckers.
00:57:12 Devastator: Never met another group that was as gullible as them.
01:02:51 Devastator: ..we have them at our current job too. Spend a while convincing one of them that there's nothing dangerous about the cell tower next door.
01:03:12 piecewise: Well...that cell tower carries social media
01:03:18 Devastator: Heh.
01:03:26 Devastator: Yeah, but you know what I'm talking about, sadly.
01:04:07 Devastator: The convincing argument was that people actually have been hurt by those kinds of transmittors when they were being invented.
01:07:12 piecewise: Can I upload images on here?
01:07:24 Devastator: Theoretically.
01:07:39 Devastator: Don't worry about it. Links are fine.
01:09:28 Devastator: Also, note that agitprop works both sides..
01:09:34 piecewise: https://preview.redd.it/cqwf9gpaqf311.jpg?auto=webp&s=b3d35fcfb810ca1f7bc12ceeb64626e257e83380
01:10:05 piecewise: Back when electricity first started becoming common in cities this anti-electricity cartoon was published
01:10:12 piecewise: funny how nothing changes
01:10:51 Devastator: Yup. Also, basically everything involving folk drugs.
01:20:03 Devastator: Unfortunately all this jackassery will lead to a lot more childhood diseases.
01:52:17 piecewise: To be fair, most people against covid vaccination aren't actually against all vaccination
01:52:19 piecewise: just covid
01:52:44 piecewise: least every person I know who is against it has said as much
01:52:58 piecewise: why they differentiate, dunno
01:53:01 Devastator: well, unless you're writing legislation.
01:53:03 Devastator: ..
01:53:22 Devastator: then it's "Government mandates FOR FREEDOM."
01:53:54 Devastator: Nah, it makes sense.
01:53:58 Devastator: it's why it was "no masks"
01:54:07 Devastator: and then "treatments that don't work"
01:54:15 Devastator: and "experimental biological agent."
01:54:45 Devastator: Whatever you're willing to believe, there's someone selling it. "Only Covid" is just the final position, so it gets the broadest number of people.
01:55:23 Devastator: Since the goal is to cause as much damage as possible, it doesn't really matter what you're selling, so long as its useful for convincing people to destroy the country.
01:56:12 piecewise: To be fair, I'm against mask and vaccine mandates. The first because the public does not effectively use masks. The second because the fourth tenant of bioethics states that demanding medical treatment is unethical.
01:56:42 piecewise: And to be fair, the CDC's initial response for masks was the same.
01:56:44 Devastator shrugs.
01:57:00 Devastator: I was basically mandated into working for the entire duration of the pandemic.
01:57:21 piecewise: I still use a mask and am vaccinated though
01:57:39 Devastator: Not a damn one of these people would give a shit about that kind of restriction.
02:01:32 Devastator: Just.. it's mandates for me, but not for thee, eh?
02:01:48 Devastator: grow up, get your shots and move on with your lives.
02:09:47 piecewise: My only question is if the vaccines will be yearly or not
02:10:04 piecewise: because realistically they'll have to be flu shot like
02:10:10 piecewise: but they might just give up
02:10:14 Devastator: Not sure.
02:10:35 Devastator: It doesn't mutate anywhere near as quickly as influenza.
02:11:09 Devastator: and they're working on it from several directions, such as combination varient vaccines and some stuff about conserved antibodies.
02:11:55 Devastator: I think they'll only give up if theres a republican takeover of the states, and there's no longer any more free press.
02:12:55 piecewise: I mean...there's no free press anywhere honestly
02:13:14 Devastator: the nhilist argument?
02:14:10 piecewise: Nah, the centrist argument. I can choose between absurdist right wing fox news or absurdist left wing cnn
02:15:34 piecewise: And none of it actually BELIEVES what they say. They are effectively clickbait doing their best to get money
02:15:38 Devastator: Yeah, the nhilist argument.
02:16:35 Devastator: Nah, the difference between 'no free press' and 'free press that is opinionated' is very different.
02:17:04 Devastator: no free press, you get all the opinionation, except asking questions gets you thrown out of windows.
02:17:15 piecewise: I suppose
02:17:21 Devastator: I mean, lots of windows.
02:17:30 Devastator: dangerous things, those.
02:18:15 piecewise: Defenestration is effective
02:18:16 Devastator: I had a chat a couple months ago with a guy who thought the government having to report who was indicted and with what charges was "doxxing"
02:18:56 Devastator: Not realizing that when you don't have that you have dissapering people.
02:19:35 Devastator: but you know, didn't know one thing about why it was important to have stuff like that, due to years and years from being lied to as to what due process is.
02:19:57 Devastator: "We don't need freedom of the press" is just another lie like that.
02:22:29 Devastator: Guy was also in favor of widespread limitations on the right to vote, while, of course, utterly hating the entitled politicians who run the government.
02:23:14 Devastator: "I hate the government, and that's why I think they should act as all-powerful kings", basically. Just complete disassociation with reality.
02:24:36 Devastator: Tis what happens when you convince enough people that up is actually down.
02:27:19 Devastator: ahh well..
02:27:45 Devastator: enough grumbling.
02:30:25 Devastator: back to listening to Patrick Rothfuss troll people for half an hour while promising to read out the prologue of his next book.
02:30:48 Devastator: although he put on his glasses, so maybe it's going to happen!
02:56:14 Devastator: yay.
02:56:24 Devastator: it's also different which mean..
02:56:30 Devastator: I don't know. Bloody tease of an author.
02:58:27 Devastator: I made a mistake starting that series this early.
03:27:07 Devastator: :)
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05:15:19 ER: hi piecewise, hi syv~
05:16:02 syv: Hello eggo, hello dubs
05:16:31 syv: SALUTATIONS DEVASTATOR
05:18:18 Devastator: hello.
05:18:29 syv: hello.
05:20:16 Devastator: got the show downloaded.
05:20:25 ER: give me pickle pee, give me pump a rum
05:21:27 syv: Ohh, that reminds me
05:21:34 syv: ...Two things, actually, both needing dubs.
05:21:40 syv: PIECEWISE
05:21:49 syv: PIECEWISE WAKE UP
05:22:03 syv: PIECEWISE DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THE WEX DUST MOD FOR DARK SOULS III?
05:22:17 syv: ALSO PIECEWISE CAN YOU RECOMMEND US ANIMES
05:35:44 Devastator: we gonna watch?
05:36:03 syv: Oh. Hum.
05:36:09 syv: Yeah, guess I could.
05:36:15 syv: ER?
05:38:29 ER: mm, not right now, think I need to make some food
05:42:31 syv: Alrighty
05:58:58 ER: okey, lasagnia microwaved~
05:59:06 Devastator: soup gotted.
06:00:07 syv: Already spagetti'd myself
06:12:20 Devastator: show?
06:13:22 syv: Yupyup
06:13:47 syv: I have Steins;Gate episode one onscreen.
06:14:11 Devastator: Ep 1?
06:14:15 Devastator: Not Movie 1?
06:14:23 syv: S01E1
06:14:36 syv: And correct, the movie is a postquel
06:14:47 syv: Not a sequel, an epilogue
06:15:52 ER: ok, I have it up
06:16:01 Devastator: Ready.
06:16:18 syv: 5
06:16:20 syv: 4
06:16:21 syv: 3
06:16:23 syv: 2
06:16:25 syv: 1
06:16:26 syv: 0
06:16:49 ER: blah blah blah
06:17:07 syv: My bellybutton has shirt lint in it
06:17:13 ER: good work
06:17:14 Devastator: some very different translations.
06:17:24 syv: I'm listening to the dub
06:17:30 Devastator: subs are very different.
06:17:38 Devastator: and prolly from each other.
06:17:40 ER: there were different subs
06:17:57 syv: ...Five sets of suba
06:18:19 Devastator: if you have a working time machine, why are so few people here?
06:18:36 syv: It's probably not working?
06:18:39 ER: because this is where you're announching it?
06:18:48 syv: Like AI conferences
06:19:42 Devastator: there's a thousand of them, then.
06:20:20 Devastator: goddamn it my phone sounds just like that.
06:20:42 syv: Haha, yeah, you have an ancient phone
06:21:12 Devastator: Wow, science fight.
06:21:30 Devastator: Time shenanigans!
06:21:49 ER: timey whimey wibbly wobly
06:22:11 syv: So protagonist is insane
06:22:21 ER: or paranoid
06:22:32 Devastator: eh, he's just in the bottem 25% of scientists.
06:23:07 ER: mate it's time travel
06:23:08 Devastator: he still has pants on.
06:23:09 syv: Sprinting away while cackling, then calling the person he ran from a lunatic
06:23:23 Devastator: yeah, I mean.. that's about at 25%.
06:23:57 Devastator: a hundred bucks?
06:24:01 Devastator: mna, you are broke.
06:24:02 syv: Isn't 20k yen like--yeah
06:24:09 syv: *10k
06:24:14 ER: deth
06:24:30 ER: blud
06:24:51 ER: yup this is a vn
06:25:01 Devastator: It's a lot for a bauble! Not a lot for a SCIENCE LAB.
06:25:05 Devastator: and yeah, blud.
06:25:18 Devastator: oop, did he loop?
06:25:49 ER: zwoop
06:26:07 Devastator: we definately have some explanations to do.
06:26:15 syv: FEW150
06:26:19 ER: it's magic
06:27:10 Devastator: okay, we have ascended to advanced oddness.
06:27:16 Devastator: anyone got any MJ guesses?
06:27:18 Devastator: I know nothing.
06:27:28 syv: ...catgirl maid
06:27:31 Devastator: well yes.
06:27:38 Devastator: That's ordinary oddness.
06:27:39 ER: he loops, and all loops he'll ever do have already happened
06:27:46 Devastator: Huh.
06:27:57 syv: Clonereis
06:28:02 ER: time machine is built, it's controlled by his phone
06:28:26 syv: Ohhh, that's where I've heard this before
06:28:32 Devastator: well we have time butterfly.
06:28:35 syv: Astrophysics did a remix of this song, and I really like it
06:28:46 syv: I have no theories
06:28:51 Devastator: as everyone knows, the butterfly is the most time associated of animals.
06:29:16 Devastator: Are these people 11?
06:29:30 ER: why doesn't he start at number 000
06:29:32 syv: I think she might be 11
06:29:39 syv: He's just playing
06:29:58 ER: yay anarchy
06:30:51 syv: Nerd is genuine 11 year old adult
06:30:54 Devastator: This is a highly ambitious level of self-roleplaying.
06:31:25 Devastator: so that actually happened?
06:31:27 Devastator: okay.
06:32:15 ER: went a ways back then
06:33:12 ER: telly
06:35:58 ER: guess he really is a mad scientist, just with more mad and less science
06:36:22 syv: Yes.
06:37:40 syv: So we've got a child, a perverted nerd stereotype, and a mad paranoiac
06:38:00 ER: pretty much
06:38:08 Devastator: I mean, I'm fine with this.
06:38:17 syv: Yeah, I'm enjoying it
06:38:36 Devastator: Magic flip-phone.
06:38:50 syv: Time to buy a new phone
06:39:01 syv: Flipphones just do this sometime, they're very outdated
06:39:12 Devastator: are you kidding me? Science boy has a genuine phenomenon in his pants? ;-p
06:40:01 ER: ...watching the fanmade sub for this may or ay not be a bad idea
06:40:16 ER: seems like things will get complicated
06:40:19 syv: Episode 2?
06:40:28 Devastator: Oh yeah. I mean, we're just getting started.
06:40:38 Devastator: I gotta see something about what's going down.
06:40:46 syv: I leave for clouds in seven mins
06:41:06 ER: ok, clouds first
06:47:59 syv: Back, ready on 2
06:48:07 Devastator: Ready
06:48:26 ER: ready
06:48:40 syv: 5
06:48:42 syv: 4
06:48:43 syv: 3
06:48:44 syv: 2
06:48:45 syv: 1
06:48:46 syv: 0
06:49:03 Devastator: Calling it now.
06:49:05 ER: thus begins quest to save waifu
06:49:27 Devastator: some of the weird people are nerd-boy's 2d girls brought to life through mad science.
06:50:15 Devastator: but who knows really.
06:50:22 Devastator: I don't think there's anything not on the table at this point.
06:50:25 syv: There's a catgirl maid, so.
06:50:30 syv: Seems probable.
06:50:33 Devastator: yeah, but a maid cafe was mentioned.
06:50:37 Devastator: so it's not guaranteed.
06:50:42 syv: Oh, I missed that.
06:51:09 Devastator: Could be translation issues.
06:51:10 ER: by the end he oopsies the spacetime
06:51:19 Devastator: no, world lines..
06:51:26 Devastator: he's a dimension hopper, not a time traveller, maybe?
06:51:39 ER: that'll be depressing :p
06:51:43 Devastator: both?
06:52:17 ER: tauimu macheene?
06:52:34 Devastator: Does this guy do this every week?
06:52:38 ER: yes
06:53:10 ER: defeat!
06:53:14 Devastator: I see he got science-slammed.
06:53:28 syv: B)
06:53:34 syv: Okay, I like this chick
06:53:39 Devastator: the spinning piledriver of science.
06:54:14 ER: just believe in your own custom physics
06:55:34 ER: bop him with it
06:55:36 syv: I bet she never hits anyone with that lethally.
06:55:46 Devastator: No bet.
06:55:56 Devastator: I have very little idea of what's going to happen here.
06:56:06 ER: bop
06:56:29 syv: ...
06:56:36 syv: Okay?
06:56:37 ER: shut fucking
06:57:50 Devastator: Oh god, THAT would be a prank.
06:58:53 syv: Hm?
06:58:59 Devastator: ..I'm wondering what his two names mean now.
06:59:31 ER: corm
06:59:36 Devastator: corn good.
06:59:55 ER: goodle :p
07:00:03 syv: Girls love crazy madmen utterly divorced from reality
07:00:12 ER: cly
07:00:13 Devastator: Some would.
07:01:38 syv: If worldlines are infinite, what is the value of timetraveling to change the past?
07:01:44 Devastator: You can create a new worldline.
07:01:51 syv: The only result is personal, for the traveler, going to a new worldline.
07:01:58 ER: indeed
07:01:59 Devastator: Yeah.. which is beneficial.
07:02:14 syv: But if they're infinite, both your original worldline and the new one already existed.
07:02:24 Devastator: No.
07:02:29 Devastator: Infinite doesn't mean everything exists.
07:02:32 ER: they deleted it!
07:02:40 syv: So it's purely selfish.
07:02:43 syv: Ehhhh
07:02:50 Devastator: Nah, you can create a new one.
07:04:11 ER: this setup isn't incompatable with determinism, so your creating a new line isn't incompatable with it always existing~
07:05:07 Devastator: the philosophy of indeterminism.
07:05:12 Devastator: Nobody knows what the hell is going on. ;-p
07:05:21 ER: of course
07:05:29 ER: nyan
07:05:30 syv cringes
07:05:36 ER: yay
07:06:13 syv: This one is named Ferris too
07:06:54 ER: 2d soul
07:07:05 Devastator: OH MY GOD
07:07:27 ER: this show is nerds all the way down, isn't it
07:07:32 Devastator: Yes.
07:08:22 syv: Yes
07:08:47 Devastator: operation infinite banana.
07:09:01 syv: The catgirl maid is going on about her super secret move, and is apparently somehow the girlfriend of the nerd stereotype
07:09:44 ER: no bana!
07:09:47 Devastator: We have no bananas.
07:09:56 ER: tive traveling banas!
07:10:24 Devastator: Okay.
07:10:49 ER: hi! :D
07:11:06 Devastator: Yeah.. I don't know when I can stop.
07:11:09 Devastator: but it isn't now.
07:11:12 syv: The banana thing is clever
07:12:00 syv: They set up what they look like when microwaved, then attached it, so it's not just personal time travel for the characters or insanity.
07:12:23 ER: ready
07:12:26 Devastator: ready
07:12:33 Devastator: and yes, that was intense.
07:12:35 ER: shall I go ahead and get the rest of this show? :p
07:12:37 syv: 5
07:12:39 syv: 4
07:12:40 Devastator: `1
07:12:40 syv: 3
07:12:42 syv: 2
07:12:43 syv: 1
07:12:46 syv: Yeah
07:12:52 syv: Priority on 4/5, I guess
07:12:55 ER: did we start?
07:12:57 ER: no 0
07:13:03 Devastator: okay, restart.
07:13:03 syv: ...
07:13:08 syv: Sorry
07:13:12 syv: Ready
07:13:17 Devastator: ready.
07:13:28 ER: ready
07:13:31 syv: 3
07:13:33 syv: 2
07:13:34 syv: 1
07:13:35 syv: 0
07:14:00 Devastator: we were too busy examining our bananas.
07:14:08 syv: Yes
07:14:26 ER: bana
07:14:59 Devastator: green nana.
07:15:43 ER: this is off brand, it didn't time travel at all just teleport! >:(
07:15:51 Devastator: it didn't just teleport.
07:15:56 Devastator: it reattached itself to the bunch.
07:16:02 syv: Yeah, it went back to when it was attached.
07:16:16 ER: that's basically teleportation :p
07:16:18 syv: Also, (useful) time travel implies teleportation.
07:16:33 Devastator: yeah, no such thing as absolute reference frames.
07:16:46 ER: it did Tracer's shift ability~
07:16:58 syv: I don't know Overwatch
07:17:15 ER: you know overwatch enough to know what I was talking about
07:18:09 ER: returns to where you were some seconds ago, with the health you had then
07:18:23 syv: I didn't know that, actually
07:18:46 ER: so you get into trouble, and make sure to hit that button before you die
07:19:03 Devastator: "Anarchic Science"
07:19:57 ER: don't see how that helps him if he just does it again
07:20:32 syv: Hum, the kid is 002, implying nerd is 003, so she was around before him.
07:22:20 ER: so they accidentially made a microwave into a time machine, controlled via phone line, and he activeated it by texting
07:22:23 Devastator: I am impressed at the bizarrness of the time travel device.
07:22:40 Devastator: This is some next level creativity.
07:23:00 syv: Yes
07:23:20 syv: And all the characters are odd. Except maybe for the straight girl.
07:23:22 ER: F
07:23:39 Devastator: You need someone snae to make the show work.
07:23:39 ER: time travel the floor back to being intact!
07:23:44 ER: yes
07:24:27 ER: now just make it so that it doesn't *also* microwave whatever you put in it
07:24:28 Devastator: oh god.
07:24:52 syv: I think most of them are sane, just the madman is paranoid.
07:25:06 Devastator: I don't know if the 2d harem guy is sane.
07:25:15 Devastator: madman is certainly not all there.
07:25:19 ER: he's MORE sane
07:25:41 syv: Yeah, harem guy is a weirdo nerd, but he hasn't seemed to actually believe any of the nonsense;
07:25:53 syv: He's quite reasonable about Madman's madness.
07:26:23 Devastator: I don't know.
07:26:31 Devastator: Being with crazy guy would be amusing.
07:27:50 ER: 'hack into'
07:28:26 ER: science!
07:28:48 ER: lol
07:28:59 Devastator: Guy's not used to pepole actually listening to him.
07:29:09 ER: indeed
07:29:10 syv: Heh
07:30:42 Devastator: Oh, so everything does change.
07:31:00 syv: But if there's infinite that's insignificant
07:31:01 ER: parellel worlds AND time travel! :D
07:32:24 Devastator: by that reasoning everything is insignificant.
07:32:50 syv: No, not things judged to be significant
07:33:00 ER: bop
07:33:08 Devastator: You know the kid would be the best spy on the organization.
07:35:54 Devastator: whoops.
07:35:56 Devastator: clouds?
07:36:12 syv: It's 36
07:36:27 syv: Meh, nothing's out tonight, I'll check it early
07:37:06 ER: okay, still need to dl the next one
07:37:11 ER: just a minute
07:38:01 syv: Alright
07:38:07 ER: and I have 4 now :p
07:38:12 Devastator: wanted to get more soop.
07:40:23 syv: I have 4
07:41:47 Devastator: I have all.
07:41:49 Devastator: but minus soup.
07:46:51 Devastator: soup is had.
07:47:08 syv: Ready. ER?
07:47:15 Devastator: ready
07:47:31 Devastator: "JELLYMAN's report No. 14"
07:48:22 ER: I haz potato chips
07:48:44 ER: ready
07:49:32 Devastator: sigh-v?
07:50:11 syv: 5
07:50:13 syv: 4
07:50:14 syv: 3
07:50:15 syv: 2
07:50:16 syv: 1
07:50:18 syv: 0
07:50:43 ER: mismatch!
07:51:15 ER: need the ibm!
07:51:59 syv: And why would CERN be using proprietary IBM code?
07:52:08 ER: seeeecrets
07:52:21 ER: so that it can't be stolen, cly ;p
07:52:26 syv: Build your own proprietary code!
07:52:56 syv: I imagine CERN functionally has something like that IRL
07:53:00 ER: maybe that's what they used the first time to time travel and it turns out that was the action which created the multiverse
07:53:09 Devastator: scientists using bizarre hardware and software is actually realistic.
07:53:09 ER: so reality runs on the ibm code
07:53:44 syv: ...Well yes, but why *that*?
07:53:54 Devastator: god only knows.
07:54:13 Devastator: was that madoka?
07:54:24 syv: Something similar
07:54:30 Devastator: I'll have to check.
07:54:41 syv: I don't think Madoka was out when this story was made.
07:55:15 ER: wasn't it his girlfriend?
07:55:34 syv: ...What?
07:55:47 ER: the t shirt
07:55:50 Devastator: yes.
07:55:54 Devastator: was asking about card.
07:56:07 syv: Ahhh, yes. The nerd claimed the catgirl is his GF.
07:56:10 Devastator: oh.
07:56:23 syv: I think that's the only relationship stated so far.
07:56:40 Devastator: `!
07:56:59 syv: None of the Japanese text is translated for me, I'm not using the subs. :\
07:58:02 Devastator: someone has money.
07:58:24 syv: Because he doesn't work?
08:01:27 ER: this seems to actually be a reasonable circumstance to be a sceptic in
08:01:41 Devastator: Yes. It's also not really a time machine until it works twice.
08:02:06 syv: It's also a really good place to be curious
08:02:30 syv: The microwaved banana is weird enough
08:02:52 Devastator: yes
08:04:22 syv: why
08:04:29 ER: because anime
08:04:31 Devastator: the world is low sanity.
08:06:11 ER: this is dumb
08:06:12 Devastator: He's going to lose badly.
08:06:16 syv: Yes
08:06:17 syv: Yes
08:06:26 syv: I expected this show to be a lot more serious
08:07:02 ER: just wanted to get through it as quickly as possible
08:07:04 Devastator: microwave time travel.
08:08:10 Devastator: she's too good a scientist for her own good.
08:09:21 ER: well that was easy
08:09:51 syv: Dramatically: "You're talking about an IBM 5100?!"
08:09:51 Devastator: You're totally his assistant.
08:10:04 syv: This is an odd anime.
08:10:10 Devastator: Yes.
08:10:35 Devastator: time travel.
08:10:41 ER: prime trabel!
08:12:31 ER: breaks it
08:12:38 Devastator: well, that was a filler episode.
08:12:41 Devastator: ...
08:12:44 Devastator: there's time travel.
08:12:51 Devastator: if they break it, it will reveal the answer.
08:12:59 Devastator: because the time traveller will know they'll break it.
08:13:12 syv: This show has been so odd and chaotic I can't really differentiate from filler and non-filler
08:13:16 ER: maybe he gets more incompetent every loop
08:13:22 syv: PM3, this is not
08:13:33 Devastator: PM3 is astoundingly compact.
08:13:42 Devastator: This is good, but it's very strange.
08:14:11 syv: Yeah.
08:14:25 ER: ...I just realized that the background image for the end credits is an hourglass shattering in reverse
08:15:05 Devastator: One more? This has to start making more sense sometime.
08:15:17 ER: hah
08:15:19 syv: It really doesn't, but okay
08:15:32 syv: Ready
08:15:37 Devastator: ready
08:15:45 Devastator: and yeah, it doesn't.
08:15:47 ER: ready
08:15:49 Devastator: but hope springs eternal.
08:15:50 syv: 5
08:15:52 syv: 4
08:15:53 syv: 3
08:15:54 syv: 2
08:15:56 syv: 1
08:15:57 syv: 0
08:16:04 ER: wonder what the vn is like
08:16:17 ER: shiny
08:16:18 Devastator: well, that last ep looked like a couple of VN chapters.
08:16:33 syv: It did.
08:17:28 ER: stabbo
08:17:30 Devastator: Woop!
08:17:45 Devastator: so there's actual organization spies.'
08:17:59 syv: Not a very competent one if so
08:18:09 Devastator: Or maybe not.
08:18:09 ER: someone had to have stabbed her!
08:18:20 Devastator: maybe they've implanted random people with murder impulses when they see people like her.
08:18:24 syv: We only have two real male characters, correct?
08:18:27 syv: Hacker and madman
08:18:38 Devastator: CRT guy.
08:18:40 Devastator: and trap.
08:18:53 syv: Ahh, trap.
08:19:02 syv: Landlord seems more like a location
08:19:30 Devastator: but yeah, only three guys on the end of the OP.
08:19:38 syv: Yeah, character lineup there only had hacker, madman, and trap
08:20:31 Devastator: Yes you do.
08:20:39 Devastator: It'll go easier once you realize you're in the mad science zone.
08:22:38 Devastator: Yeah, there's no sanity here, lady.
08:22:44 ER: zero
08:22:48 Devastator: Mad science zone.
08:23:05 syv: I am very curious WHY the kid is here
08:23:30 Devastator: she encountered the mad science zone and got curious.
08:23:36 Devastator: (no idea.)
08:23:58 ER: something that *will* happen :p
08:24:16 syv: "Madman was nice to her and fun, and she has no friends or good family" would be believable. But still, I want to know.
08:24:24 Devastator: yeah.
08:24:33 syv: And clearly this girl *is* another crazy.
08:24:40 Devastator: and yeah, nice to have confirmation tha the bike lady is a time traveller.
08:24:56 ER: not sure if anyone in this world is sane
08:25:03 Devastator: Red's not too far off.
08:25:15 ER: yeah but she's from a different country
08:25:39 syv: I still think most of the chars do seem sane. Kid is a kid and influenced by madman. At worst she's a bit weird.
08:26:08 ER: yes
08:26:57 ER: I'm not sure how a vn protag can get away with being this crazy though
08:27:18 Devastator: ....
08:27:25 syv: It's a good kind of VN protag
08:27:28 Devastator: yeah, I 'm not eating anything that came out of that microwave.
08:27:30 syv: One that's actually a character
08:27:34 Devastator: Yeah.
08:28:01 ER: yeah from that microwave you've probably catch a 10000 year old virus or something
08:31:03 syv: ...what
08:31:08 ER: lol
08:31:09 syv: Did he say it was written in C?
08:31:25 Devastator: I think they're trying to mean pre-C.
08:32:19 ER: magic!
08:32:24 Devastator: It's the kind of thing you could call time travel.
08:32:44 syv: Yeah, she's kinda being a Skully
08:32:53 syv: MewTube
08:34:41 Devastator: oh please, if you can rattle off cool names like this on demand you totally should do so.
08:34:49 syv: Yes, 100%
08:35:03 syv: My assumption is that's why hackerman tolerates him
08:35:19 ER: nice
08:35:36 ER: jellification
08:36:33 ER: no, you gotta figure out if they succeeded!
08:36:39 Devastator: ..yeah, I hate to say it.
08:36:43 Devastator: ..that's important.
08:38:10 ER: THIS WORLD IS IMPERFECT
08:38:26 ER: IF ONLY I COULD CHANGE IT, TI MAKE IT PERFECT LIKE ME
08:39:00 Devastator: Also, double checked.
08:39:02 syv: Do you think CERN is sane?
08:39:04 Devastator: it's Madoka.
08:39:13 ER: possibly
08:39:22 Devastator: prolly not, they said animal tests first.
08:39:28 Devastator: I think the jellification thing would have shown up then.
08:39:45 ER: maybe humans have souls :p
08:39:50 Devastator: yes.
08:39:57 syv: PM3 and this anime came out the same year
08:39:58 Devastator: but yeah, it's generic-brand Madoka on that card.
08:40:16 Devastator: ep 4 3:49
08:40:53 syv: ...Does have the ribbon twintails.
08:41:03 syv: Or whatever you call that hair
08:41:13 ER: perhaps they created a perfect world, with some externalities in the form of backwater timelines~
08:41:52 ER: anyway, even more? :3
08:41:56 syv: This anime literally started airing the month PM3 ended. The VN was from 2009.
08:42:23 Devastator: sure.
08:42:29 Devastator: and didn't PM3 have a delayed ending?
08:43:08 syv: By a few weeks, IIRC
08:43:08 Devastator: still could totally be a reference.
08:43:11 syv: Earthquake
08:43:13 syv: I suppose
08:43:20 Devastator: doesn't take long to change one thing like that.
08:43:43 syv: Ep 6:
08:43:45 syv: ?
08:43:50 ER: yesh
08:43:51 Devastator: Sure.
08:43:55 syv: Ah, brb
08:43:56 Devastator: This is pretty compelling.
08:43:59 Devastator: MS guy is a good char.
08:45:44 syv: Indeed he is. Perhaps that's why this is supposed to be the best VN; it has an actually good protagonist.
08:45:48 syv: Ready on 6
08:46:00 ER: ready
08:46:01 Devastator: Ready.
08:46:06 syv: 5
08:46:08 syv: 4
08:46:09 syv: 3
08:46:10 syv: 2
08:46:11 syv: 1
08:46:12 syv: 0
08:46:21 ER: an existance protagonist
08:46:26 ER: existant
08:47:06 Devastator: 'the future'
08:47:07 syv: ...I did not expect that UFO to remain here.
08:47:21 Devastator: 5 days doesn't seem unreasonable for removing it.
08:47:22 Devastator: but yeah.
08:47:35 ER: meh, just leave it there~
08:48:00 syv: I expected either time travel or whoever put it there to remove it.
08:48:17 syv: Has anyone checked inside for jellies?
08:48:24 syv: ...Man, I do wish we had MJ watching.
08:48:30 Devastator: Opens it up.
08:48:35 Devastator: "Homura?"
08:48:39 syv: I'd love to know absurd blind guess he'd make to explain this show.
08:48:47 Devastator: Yeah. Eh.
08:48:52 Devastator: I'm glad you suggested it.
08:48:56 Devastator: and can always do a rewatch.
08:50:36 ER: hey why don't you just talk to one another
08:50:38 Devastator: lemme guess, red rules the world in 2036
08:50:44 ER: prolly
08:51:05 syv: Anime people suck at talking to each other
08:51:09 ER: yes
08:51:10 syv: It would make the plots too boring
08:52:31 ER: so to go the past you need either a LHC or a microwave
08:52:38 Devastator: Yes.
08:52:49 syv: Kids Next Door
08:52:56 Devastator: or maybe the global stuff they put up everywhere lowered the bar from LHC to Microwave.
08:53:23 ER: t mail
08:53:29 Devastator: Yes.
08:54:55 ER: how do you know it runs on a 24 hour cycle
08:55:52 ER: magic!
08:56:57 ER: packet loss!
08:57:39 ER: gel human!
08:57:42 syv: I am really not understanding their time travel
08:57:45 syv: Hum.
08:58:03 Devastator: they need to hook a car up to it to move humans back in time.
08:58:19 syv: Has PTSD from his future history where he actually sees gel humans.
08:58:21 syv: ?
08:58:41 Devastator: I have no idea.
08:58:57 Devastator: maybe the front is slipping.
08:59:13 Devastator: too real for a guy who has always hidden in the world of imagination.
08:59:58 ER: he heard about the gel humans, saw the gel banas, rest is imagination
09:00:33 Devastator: uh oh.
09:01:38 Devastator: lotto numbers.
09:01:41 Devastator: lotto numbers.
09:01:43 Devastator: lotto numbers.
09:02:24 Devastator: also.
09:02:31 Devastator: you're poo-pooing a time machine?
09:02:35 Devastator: A TIME MACHINE?
09:02:38 ER: yes
09:03:34 Devastator: we had a bunch of meaningful exposition.
09:03:47 Devastator: so we have to have weird shit now.
09:03:54 syv: Of course
09:04:03 syv: I think it's a nightmare
09:04:10 Devastator: god only knows.
09:05:29 ER: don't let her steal it
09:06:42 Devastator: he told her where it was.
09:06:47 Devastator: it's going to vanish, isn't it?
09:06:56 syv: No
09:07:28 Devastator: heh.
09:08:06 syv: COULD THE SECRET ORGANIZATION BE FACEBOOK?!
09:08:22 Devastator: "It's weird seeing this from outside.
09:08:38 ER: making any more sense now?~
09:08:43 syv: No.
09:08:47 Devastator: A fair bit.
09:08:49 Devastator: but not hugely.
09:09:09 syv: What makes sense so far? :P
09:09:55 Devastator: Time travel is real, and some of the work happening now has to occur to preserve certain things in the future.
09:10:01 Devastator: which is why nobody's stopped them or anything yet.
09:10:17 Devastator: At some point, that will no longer be true.
09:10:22 syv: ...What informed us of that?
09:10:58 Devastator: the satellite crash and preservation of Red's life.
09:11:46 syv: Hm. Red did die just after encountering Madman, and he rebuffed her.
09:12:12 syv: Maybe something is changing him in the past, which altered things in the future, so they put him back on track.
09:12:26 syv: ...Though their explanation of worldlines wouldn't need that. No grandfather paradox.
09:13:35 ER: bah, if I wanted to understand what was happening without being told explicitly then I'd be reading this rather than watching it! :p
09:13:41 ER: ready on 7~
09:13:51 Devastator: ok.
09:14:13 Devastator: There are also at least two factions.
09:14:20 Devastator: but that's pretty much self-evident.
09:14:30 Devastator: and I got 7, but I think that'll be the last if we watch it.
09:14:34 syv: Aside from Madman, you mean?
09:14:45 syv: 7 up
09:15:04 Devastator: yes.
09:15:11 Devastator: I think Madman himseil will make up a third, at least.
09:15:13 Devastator: ready
09:15:22 syv: 5
09:15:23 syv: 4
09:15:25 syv: 3
09:15:26 syv: 2
09:15:27 syv: 1
09:15:28 syv: 0
09:15:58 syv: I think Madman could be the creator/part of faction #2, but I feel like there's only one proper.
09:17:05 ER: maybe it's him all the way down
09:17:15 ER: comprising infinite factions
09:17:18 Devastator: that's a possibility.
09:17:40 syv: A faction for each possible waifu choice
09:18:10 ER: canon savescums
09:18:23 Devastator: headless bodies..
09:18:38 Devastator: I do like how they've dressed up the microwave more.
09:19:31 ER: healthy!
09:20:26 ER: you created a time paradox!
09:20:36 Devastator: the phone vibration comedic relief is good.
09:20:39 Devastator: Hah!
09:21:02 Devastator: not being super poor is an idea.
09:21:23 syv: She irritates me because I don't understand turning on subs, and they're annoying.
09:21:55 Devastator: I think there's an entry just for those.
09:22:27 syv: Which?
09:22:41 ER: that's a lotta damage!
09:22:41 Devastator: I think the bottom one.
09:23:00 syv: I think it translates English to Japanese, but I'll try it.
09:24:06 Devastator: yeah, the bottom one just did that.
09:24:14 ER: weebs
09:24:20 syv: Yes
09:24:26 syv: That one did make me laugh
09:24:39 ER: science!
09:24:47 Devastator: winning 7 grand?
09:25:16 Devastator: he also has a time travel password.
09:25:35 syv: I feel like it's more of a comfort phrase
09:26:05 ER: so he can actually trasmit his conciousness back in the past now?
09:26:24 ER: guess the big organization's mistake was trying to send *bodies*
09:26:44 Devastator: explain!
09:26:46 Devastator: talk!
09:26:49 ER: TALK
09:26:57 ER: don't dare run away
09:26:58 Devastator: WORDS
09:28:47 ER: words *please*
09:29:12 Devastator: I like the unconscous step from the little kid to get out of the way of the madman.
09:29:51 syv: Dad's probably warned her
09:30:42 ER: I was thinking that maybe she was john titor
09:31:02 syv: Maybe she is!
09:31:05 ER: on the internet nobody knows that you're an anime girl
09:31:39 Devastator: can't you just do it now? I mean, you don't have to close the time loop, but why not?
09:32:34 Devastator: 42 inch CRT?
09:32:36 Devastator: that's a biggun.
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09:32:54 ER: bye
09:33:07 ER: presumably we're still going
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09:33:19 ER: hi! :D
09:33:21 syv: Still synced
09:34:22 Devastator: an actual phone call!
09:34:23 syv: I imagine if you try to close the time loop, you just send a second message which creates another divergence
09:34:29 Devastator: would it?
09:34:48 syv: It would be a good thing to test.
09:35:43 ER: he's magic!
09:36:23 Devastator: "he's magic"
09:36:30 syv: Yes.
09:36:40 syv: Notably, not only does he have the previous timeline's memory, he doesn't have the current one.
09:36:48 Devastator: ..yes.
09:37:09 syv: ...Something that would encourage you to take lots of notes, in case your thoughts and memories are overwritten.
09:37:20 ER: yes
09:37:40 Devastator: okay.
09:37:46 ER: he is the One!
09:37:48 Devastator: I did not call 'Dude's a magical girl', but there we have it.
09:37:57 Devastator: yeah, taht's a good spot to end it for now at.
09:38:02 syv: Yes.
09:38:30 syv: I kinda really do want to make MJ watch this, just to see if he calls it.
09:38:39 Devastator: He doesn't read the logs.
09:38:45 Devastator: Can always rewatch.
09:38:48 syv: AND MJ IF YOU'RE READING LOGS IN YHE FUTURE, THAT'S CHEATING!
09:38:52 syv: (He totally does sometimes)
09:39:12 syv: But probably wouldn't read all this.
09:40:09 ER: when the gate is stiens idk
09:40:32 Devastator: I did call the lotto numbers.
09:40:38 syv: I wonder if they'll explain that name.
09:40:58 syv: Maybe he says "Stein's Gate" just because it sounds cool and justifies the anime's name.
09:41:31 Devastator: Yes.
09:43:47 Devastator: good show so far.
09:44:05 Devastator: although the density of phone-related content is impressive.
09:48:03 syv: I believe that's because the VN had a significant phone-texts mechanic, and they're just trying to work that in faithfully.
09:48:42 syv: Probably why they have a character that communicates by texting even when face to face, and cleverly(?) used texting for the time machine.
09:51:44 Devastator: Hmm.
09:59:19 ER: but the question is what goes in the stiens?
09:59:54 Devastator: beer, clearly.
10:00:08 ER: mmm, beer
11:22:24 ER: https://youtu.be/uJEo5froCqY
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