03:20:33 mib_m227he has joined #einsteinianroulette
03:21:08 mib_m227he is now known as Piecewise
04:50:21 Devastator:
Nikitian showed up earlier.
05:10:04 ER has joined #einsteinianroulette
05:51:46 Devastator: Also, there are totally RTD mechanics in Extinction. I just rolled out the entire assault day on essentially RTD mechanics.
05:57:08 Devastator: It's just.. they're not player facing RTD mechanics.
05:57:33 Devastator: and in combat you're actually in direct control, so it isn't really suggestions..
06:00:59 Devastator: these youtube ads for these mobile games are incredibly annoying.
06:01:24 Devastator: I mean, I know you're advertizing a bejeweled clone, so what the hell are you pretending you've got something entirely different for?
07:08:58 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
07:10:06 Devastator: Oh, you want Nik invited to Quest?
07:11:01 Devastator: Could intro another char basically anytime.
07:12:56 Devastator: "Quest: A brief adventure based on Hot d12 action where the goal is to walk in a straight line as long as possible."
07:36:44 syv: Sent the char I'll use in Nik's game
08:51:02 Devastator:
ER, what should I play?
08:55:36 ER: still thinking how I'll flesh out my character
09:10:17 Nikitian has joined #einsteinianroulette
09:11:05 Devastator: Thinking about who to play in your game.
09:11:08 Devastator:
ER suggests a bird.
09:11:16 Devastator: I don't know if it'd fly.
09:12:19 Nikitian: Nice! I was a little worried you didn't feel like participating in the end,
Devastator :)
09:12:33 ER:
syv's backstory implies that my character is reasonably successful moneywise, so I have to figure out how to not play as an impoverished murderhobo
09:13:11 Nikitian: I, um, hm. Well, I honestly didn't account for non-human characters just yet, but we'll see, if you want to play that
09:13:22 Nikitian: Yeah, it's interesting
09:13:53 Nikitian: Also, got some interesting ideas for the game and the setting from your messages, as well :)
09:14:33 Devastator: I'm happy to participate, but don't have any strong character ideas.
09:16:03 Devastator: Could play Beethro, I suppose.
09:16:07 Devastator: the man with the really big sword.
09:17:31 Devastator: either that or I take the MG slot that
Syv left open. ;-p
09:21:30 Nikitian: Oooh :) Eagerly awaiting!
09:22:16 ER: ya think that guns are magitech in this setting? :thinking:
09:22:33 ER: I want a character who is just awful at magic
09:23:09 Nikitian: I think, thus far, only Illgeo's character is good at magic, and he's... well, doing it his own (painful) way
09:24:58 Nikitian: Yup! But, looking at it, seems like he is doing magic with tech (or with magic-tech tools)
09:25:18 Devastator: Hey, Nik, what was the name of those reneissance-era mercenaries who had the ridiculous outfits?
09:26:52 ER: just a dude dressed like a bloody clown with a huge dick-shaped codpiece wh fights with a greatsword
09:27:57 Devastator: Actually, not doing that.
09:28:52 Nikitian: Dunno, I think they dressed pretty fancy (for their era)
09:30:14 Nikitian: In fact, dressing cool as fuck was their whole style point, being independent mercenaries and everything
09:30:28 Devastator: I think there were some odd legal things about it, too.
09:33:58 Devastator: would you like to be invited into the PM game I'm running with
ER and
syv?
09:34:20 Devastator: It's called "Roll To Quest", and it's basically d12 action where they have to go in one direction forever. ;-p
09:34:44 Devastator: (It's set on a ringworld, and they're supposed to walk around it.)
09:36:10 Nikitian: It would be an honour. :)
09:37:22 Devastator: I'll go send you the OP.
09:37:30 Devastator: then I can write you in after the current battle.
09:37:54 Devastator: can just do that here.
09:37:58 Devastator: It's morning, and you see the sun rise over the end of the world, as you dip your weapon in its waters and take your last ceremonial blessings from the young priest. All you know is that you must go on this quest, to fulfill the deal struck with the rulers of this artificial world.
09:37:59 Devastator: You have no orders, no duties, except that you must seek the western shore.
09:38:01 Devastator: Nobody knows how far it is or what you might face along the way. The arc of the world reveals, rather than hides, but the lands to the west swiftly shrink into a narrow ribbon.. mountains, cities, deserts, seas, plains.. all into that thin ribbon which stretches up to become the sky.
09:38:02 Devastator: [b]Who are you, and what do you excel at?[/b]
09:38:04 Devastator: (Pick a name, a description, three things you excel at, and one melee weapon.)
09:48:44 Nikitian: Awesome! *cough* Would you rather I replied now and here, or wrote a proper pm? Also, what is the typical length of description (a couple of words, a sentence, a paragraph, etc)?
09:48:57 Nikitian: Yeah, probably a proper pm is better, will do
09:49:20 Devastator: I have to write your powers, and then roll for additional powers.
09:50:26 ER: checking, mine is *way* shorter than
sy's
09:50:36 ER: so I think you could get away with whatever
09:52:00 Devastator: Sent you a copy of each of theirs.
09:56:22 ER: character finally fully submitted :p
09:56:28 ER: should be interesting enough
09:56:58 Nikitian: Yeah, that's something of a departure from the initial idea :P
09:57:21 Nikitian: We'll see if I can still make it all fit together!
09:59:21 Devastator: anyway, Nik, there's no hurry. The nature of Roll to Quest is such that new characters can show up at any point.
09:59:31 ER: I watched a long series of videos about the witcher series ending in an explaination of how in the books geralt transforms from an edgelord to a 'carelord' who cares about everyone he meets and does his best to help
09:59:53 ER: so obviously I needed to try a deeply altruistic character
10:01:54 Nikitian: (on both accounts ^^' )
10:02:45 Devastator: ..although I do want to push Extinction, though. ;-p
10:03:57 ER: you can play Revenent if you like
10:04:18 ER: it's an open ended rtd about being dead
10:07:04 ER: and you weren't even sapient to begin with!
10:07:11 ER: echoes of echoes at this point
10:08:25 Devastator: well, if I stumped the fey, they gotta tell me what I am. ;-p
10:08:38 Devastator: and really, with a 'consume whole' power, I don't think I'll stay as nothing. ;-p
10:09:16 ER: plenty of very signifigant things are decended from unrelated things which no longer exist
10:09:26 ER: something something simulation and simulacra
10:10:02 Devastator: huh, I wonder if Nik can get the riddle..
10:12:28 ER: damn, bastion has a good soundtrack
10:12:36 Nikitian: I, uh, have a bad track record with riddles - but I'm good at mysteries, however, so maybe it balances out :P
10:16:34 Nikitian: Hmmm. Can't decide if "Compassion" is better as a skill (covers wide number of cases, intentionally slightly vague) or a proficiency (modifier to a skill that covers more specific use-cases)
10:17:18 ER: would it really affect any rolls?
10:17:55 ER: if anything that means having to roll to walk away :p
10:18:57 Nikitian: It would certainly affect rolls to be friendly! :P
10:19:56 ER: as an autistic person my opinion is that caring about someone doesn't always make it easier to convince them of such v.v
10:20:50 Nikitian: But I know at least a few very social people who care very openly, and it is part of their ease of socialization
10:23:01 Nikitian: Like, being kind invites kindness in return, and so on (doesn't always work, but /not/ being kind rarely invites kindness in return :V )
10:30:43 Devastator: I had a kind character.
10:30:57 Devastator: She ended up turning into a building-sized monsterous creature.
10:42:24 ER: well nik, we all have characters, turn 1 when? :3
10:44:06 Nikitian: Working on it for several hours now! :P
10:45:14 Nikitian: Actually, already statted out (and written a little something) your character, but then you changed it, so currently mostly reworking things so they fit better :)
10:46:16 Nikitian: Still, it's pretty funny, to turn from a politician to a very altruistic traveling veterinary :P
10:53:45 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
11:11:37 Devastator: did you get any nap?
11:13:12 syv: Not really, just slwpt in.
11:16:23 Nikitian can't decide if slwwping in is a good kind of sleep or not
11:16:32 Nikitian: Was it restful, at least?
11:18:15 syv: Decently. The kinda sleep where you get up and don't feel like you need more sleep, but still feel somewhat fatigued.
11:36:01 ER: stoopid hunt showdown devs. I see it's updating and try to look for patchnotes on steam but all there is a a recorded livestream explaining the features
11:40:24 syv: When you find them, share? ;P
11:44:58 ER: I can't find them, they're not up!
11:47:31 Nikitian: Now that's plain rude, running a stream and not giving a text changelog
11:51:57 Nikitian: Okay, I've finished giving you preliminary stats and comments :)
11:52:31 Nikitian: (thankfully, it would only need to be done once or, well, a couple times, and only because of the test nature of our game)
11:52:55 ER: I go look at the steam forums?
11:53:11 ER: people are *exceptionally* braindead on those
11:53:42 ER: people complaining about other players being cowardly in hunt
11:54:14 ER: with their definition of cowardence being that they kill the boss, get one set of tokens, and leave without going for the other one
11:54:49 ER: funny as hell in a brain numbing way
11:56:40 syv: It's a co-op game where you're matched with someone totally random.
11:57:10 syv: It's dumb, but it's functionally a complaint that the game doesn't match playstyle effectively... and maybe that people don't coordinate well.
11:57:39 ER: no, they weren't complaining that their teammate didn't want to go all the way
11:57:55 ER: they were complaining that the enemy wasn't greedy enough
11:58:01 syv: Both of which are to some degree valid criticism, which could be improved through superior systems. Friendslists, say, perhaps sorting players with some self-selected playstyle.
11:58:20 syv: I mean... yeah, that's still a difference in playstyle.
11:58:25 ER: they want all players to be maximum pvp!
11:58:41 syv: ...Or to be matched with other players who desire maximum PvP.
12:00:49 syv: IMO a legitimate criticism of hunt is how the mixed PvPvE mechanics somewhat splits the playerbase.
12:01:43 ER: it's also basically one of the only games with its particular mechanics
12:01:51 syv: Some people are playing for PvE and progression, and want to minimize PvP, or engage with it only when it's clearly advantageous, while others are really playing the game as a duelling arena with NPC distractions.
12:02:05 syv: And the former group does somewhat act as fodder for the latter...
12:02:06 ER: so the hope would be that it's played by people who like specifically pvpve
12:02:16 ER: ...which isn't true in practice
12:02:30 syv: Unfortunately, people are dumb.
12:03:06 ER: clearly we just need an l4d clone
12:03:48 ER: it does seem like if you just wanna fight people then it's an extremely tedius game for that
12:04:00 ER: but then, people play BR games these days
12:04:19 syv: I mean, Hunt is kinda advertised as a BR-adjacent game?
12:05:14 ER: BR games should be management sim simulations where I get to send prisoners into dangerous games, not shooters with bonus downtime!
12:06:26 syv: Hum. Someone should make a BR where you can bet money on players as they engage in fights, as an integrated part of the game.
12:06:43 syv: Stuff like PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds, or Apex Legends.
12:07:03 ER: mm, there was something like that
12:07:20 syv: "Lots of people drop into big arena, loot stuff, then kill each other until only one person/team is left"
12:08:01 ER: my point is that the game genre has diverged from the literary genre in a way that's disappointing to me ;p
12:14:12 Nikitian: That much I can absolutely agree with!
12:14:25 Nikitian likes pathos, unlike suffering
12:14:58 syv: For me, suffering *is* pathos
12:15:21 ER: suffering is necessary for the ardent torrents of pathos
12:16:58 Nikitian: There is a very subtle difference, something about either outlook or context, but there definitely is one, IMHO
12:17:51 Nikitian: Like, Greek Tragedy = pathos, Meguca = suffering (but certain very very few Megucas, like Homura = pathos)
12:18:36 syv: Honestly all the meguca have pathos for me. Except Blue.
12:21:20 Nikitian: Maybe there should be some law prohibiting PS from entering the career if they do not have pathos :P
12:24:28 ER: I mean if you show Boring Girl to pumsy and he tries to do the sparkle you'd probably just get some kind of terrible divide by zero reality glitch
12:24:28 syv: Cutebae selects magical girls based on "potential", which judging from the show, tracks pretty well with pathos.
12:24:50 ER: (that's a lie, Boring Girl has some pathos)
12:25:12 syv: Who has the worst pathos? Blue! Who he explicitly said was verk weak compared to the rest, and who he was using as a tool to get to Pink.
12:29:57 ER: blue kinda has bad pathos by virtue of developing it entirely by herself rather than her enviroment
12:30:25 ER: gotta be strong, develops strength through sheer self-destruction
13:16:25 Nikitian: Good night! Also, oops, sent first pm only to
ER, will fix it now
13:23:45 syv: Oh boy, fractional HP damage?
13:27:56 syv: Do you want us to start boldtexting, or wait for a further post?
13:31:01 Nikitian: Yeah, I think you can start bold-texting already, if you feel it fits :)
13:33:17 Nikitian: And fractional HP damage is mostly for the purpose of tracking minor injuries and how they might accumulate (fractions don't have any mechanical function, only integer penalties are applied)
13:34:52 Nikitian: The main purpose of minor injuries is to give situational penalties (disadvantages) anyway
13:35:05 syv: Functionally similar to having, say 28/30 body. Except counted up to the next multiple of ten. Which I suppose is fine, that DOES alleviate the worry of minimal damage taking someone from 1 to 0.
13:35:18 syv: I just feel worried when I see frations getting tracked.
13:36:21 Nikitian: Yeah, if I understood you right
14:16:49 Nikitian: Got it, but, just so you are aware, you might want to tell a bit more about your character (now or later)
14:17:42 Nikitian: Just look at the list of proficiencies Egan got out of his two descriptions ^^';
14:18:28 Nikitian: (Still, you're way ahead of Illgeo!)
14:18:50 syv: Defining a character at the start of a game's always hard for me; I have a habit of leaving things fairly ambiguous, and learning about who I'm playing as they go.
14:19:19 Nikitian: Then this sorta-not-quite-suggestion format should be good for you
14:19:45 syv: Is Unknown stuff ambiguous and meant to be determined later, then?
14:20:13 Nikitian: Basically, "this has not been defined in any way, so feel free to fill in the blanks"
14:20:21 syv: I'll think of more soon, then. Prolly chatting with Egan a bit.
14:20:46 syv: I like making chars that tie into other people's stories, and building them up a shared history/background.
15:45:50 parisbre56[Away] has joined #einsteinianroulette
15:45:50 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
15:45:50 Topic set by syv [Saturday 22 May 2021, 04:44:55]
17:42:27 Devastator: Umm.. I like Inigo Montoya, but the quest is a permanent thing. There is no 'after'.
17:46:00 Devastator: ..It would make sense of the six-fingered man went out on a previous year.
17:54:14 Nikitian: Well, since "the west shore" is unreachable (which the character might not understand), the rulers simply lied to him
17:54:22 Nikitian: But I like your explanation better :)
17:58:47 Devastator: yeah. And if you do track him down, might as well keep going.
17:58:51 GameServ:
Devastator rolled 1d12: 5 <Total: 5>
17:58:56 GameServ:
Devastator rolled 1d12: 6 <Total: 6>
17:58:59 GameServ:
Devastator rolled 1d12: 7 <Total: 7>
18:01:35 Devastator: Okay. I'll write you up a sheet tonight.
18:24:51 Nikitian: Err, have a nice day ^^'
Log file '2022-01-27.log' ends.
36617 bytes processed.