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05:28:29 syv: Steam shows me an ad for some random game I've never seen before, which is on discount
05:28:47 syv: My brain thinks "This looks vaugely like Transistor. Maybe I should play Transistor."
05:30:35 Devastator: played a bunch more DW
05:30:42 Devastator: that 75% upkeep penalty is massive.
05:31:03 Devastator: that sounds like a litrpg.
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05:31:33 syv: Hello Elegant Rhododendron!
05:31:52 ER: it is a wonder which devours
05:32:27 syv: I'd read a LitRPG about a fleshorrOH WAIT.
05:33:34 Devastator: fleshhorror or giant snake.
05:33:55 ER: guess I'll have to butcher the setting of lace into a litrpg setting then
05:35:23 Devastator: or normal snake that becomes giant snake.
05:35:30 Devastator: or that space game.
05:35:58 syv: I hadn't anticipated this, but "nice unambitious person who doesn't want to hurt anyone, living in a well-funded lab" doesn't have much room to go anywhere. Unless you add something.
05:36:16 syv: The television has snowboarders doing jumps.
05:36:46 syv: They keep falling down and then rolling or spinning back onto their boards.
05:37:09 Devastator: although I don't snowboard myself.
05:37:41 ER: you made a nice character and I made a reasonably ethical and thecnological culture and somehow they get along! :p
05:38:14 syv: It's fairly impressive, though I understand the concept. Any sport in which you frequently fail or fall will teach you to recover from such things gracefully.
05:39:39 Devastator: the thing about
Paris's dragongame was no matter how well you are doing in your current situation, after every timeskip dragon gets bigger, forcing you into a new rut.
05:39:42 syv: ...Last guy just did a backwards flip at low speed
05:40:43 syv: LACE is functionally being cared for, since she's a science experiment, and also can probably survive fine if she goes back down to rat size?
05:40:55 Devastator: yeah, much more compatable.
05:42:11 syv: ...Man, there was just a guy boarding behind the trick person, recording with a camera while they did a trick. Kept recording, quite well, mid jump.
05:47:22 ER: I can probably make things happen in lace, but I'm also liking the slow pace for now.
05:47:29 ER: not too much time has passed
05:47:46 syv: Yeah, I don't mind it at all.
05:48:06 ER: dragon would likely have been in the same situation if it had just... not escaped at the start.
05:48:08 syv: I just don't want it to stop because there's no more stuff to do. :<
05:48:34 ER: oh there's more stuff to do, ii's just behind timeskips
05:52:19 Devastator: I think that's what you called him.
05:52:32 Devastator: I'm curious if these fey can tell him how he works.
05:55:40 Devastator: so he's overpriced and unable to shoot ground targets?
05:57:29 syv: ...That's probably actually accurate?
05:58:13 ER: yeah I'd like to see moldbin shoot some ground targets like this
05:59:05 Devastator: got those razor wings.
06:02:02 Devastator: and the black magic that makes stuff explode.
06:02:06 Devastator: ..gotta learn how that works.
06:02:43 Devastator: one level in soul nova.
06:02:56 Devastator: that's all you need if the goal is max damage.
06:03:56 syv: Yeah, Soul Nova's flaws are mostly A) Collateral damage in a team-based game, and B) missing the only valuable target
06:24:22 syv: ..."Hit enemy with charging bull formed from soul" would actually be quite practical
06:25:21 Devastator: hmm, charging bull..
06:25:27 Devastator: that sounds like a fun workout for the woof.
06:26:03 syv: Imagine if I did add a companion summon power.
06:26:13 syv: And Alida just uses it to summon spectral deer to chase.
06:27:04 ER: power already exists, she'd just have to summon the dark spectral deers of her heart :3
06:27:08 Devastator: nah, what she needs is a car on a racetrack. ;-p
06:27:14 Devastator: and someone to drive.
06:29:13 ER: I mean, IM might be weak enough for you to kill if you use it while in a good mood, right?
06:29:48 Devastator: Problem is, I think her IM would have the same ability.
06:31:34 Devastator: you know, running from an IM instead of hunting one sounds just as dumb but more possible.
06:33:39 Devastator: you know, if she had the power, that'd be a damn good way to lure it into a fight.
06:33:49 Devastator: summon it, and then run. It'd pursue. Then slam it into the witch.
06:34:05 Devastator: don't need too much control
06:34:25 ER: could use mine for that if you'll let me mount you!
06:34:42 Devastator: Alida's in general okay with that.
06:34:49 Devastator: just make sure you have the mobility to hang on.
06:34:55 Devastator: I think
syv said it's Mob 1.
06:35:03 Devastator: no harness or anything.
06:35:40 syv: Yeah, that should work mostly.
06:35:49 syv: Mob 2/3 would mean no rolls ever.
06:36:03 Devastator: well, outside of deliberately trying to throw the rider, presumably.
06:36:12 Devastator: although in that case she could just revert.
06:36:30 syv: Mob 1 might need rolls in cases of really weird extreme movements
06:36:32 ER: that would just make the situation anime-awkward!
06:37:23 Devastator: At least she gets her clothing back.
06:39:35 syv: Mob 1 is still supposed to be human capability. The best human capability, but still reasonable.
06:39:56 Devastator: that might make it tough.
06:40:06 syv: And a magical wolf leaping around at speeding car velocities could still cause difficulties for even the best olympic wolf-riders
06:40:10 Devastator: well, you can hold onto the collar.
06:41:02 Devastator: I forget if it's spiked or not.
06:41:33 syv: I think it was on the outside? But that's one of the things you can change freely.
06:42:31 Devastator: looking it up, it wasn't.
06:42:46 ER: sophia totem has a chain, which I think should be extinsible using TM
06:43:08 Devastator: Probably will remain so until she thinks about it, then it'd gain spikes. And they'd happen to be far enough apart for Sophia's hands, should she be riding.
06:43:32 Devastator: none of the ones going around are the main body.
06:43:36 Devastator: so they wouldn't have collars.
06:45:03 Devastator: and yeah, if you can make a harness it'd probably be handy.
06:45:09 Devastator: shotgun swivel gun.
06:45:23 Devastator: just don't shoot her in the back of the neck.
06:47:16 Devastator: dead body doesn't let you ride. ;-p
06:47:24 Devastator: although if Painless is active..
06:50:02 syv: Why wouldn't they have collars? It isn't the real gem, but I don't see why they couldn't have a piece of faux-jewelery.
06:50:31 Devastator: I was just thinking only ordinary clothing duplicated.
06:50:32 ER: yeah, normal effigies come with clothes
06:50:49 Devastator: the gem wouldn't, because Offspring makes gem-copies.
06:51:03 ER: just gotta come up with some kind of wearable weaponry and then effigy can copy that too
06:52:36 Devastator: that would be handy for guns and what not, hmm.
06:53:24 syv: Yeah, you can't copy the gem itself, or if you could it'd just be some kinda boring glass. The gem is advanced.
06:53:49 syv: But most of the jewelery it comes in isn't really the gem, it's the housing.
06:54:07 ER: what's that stuff made of then
06:54:20 syv: And if you had, like, a tiara as part of your outfit, with the gem on a ring, I'd of course let you copy the tiara.
06:54:55 syv: And if your clothing is actually particularly important, like armor or something, it'd cost soul or be limited.
06:55:03 Devastator: or you'd get [Fake Steel]
06:55:47 ER: armor would be kinda nice, huh?
06:56:20 Devastator: the amount of overkill is pretty heavy.
06:57:34 ER: yeah, sharon had full totem-armor and still got torn up
06:58:19 Devastator: Wolf probably has some of that between [Fluff] and [Bigness], but I figure it only makes her twice as tough to kill, say.
06:58:44 Devastator: and yeah, Totem-armor didn't work too well.
06:59:16 Devastator: I figure stopping one hit might be a worthy goal, or cutting wounds from familiars down to scratches can be worth it.
06:59:31 Devastator: but I don't see any reasonable amount of armour protecting against witch attacks.
06:59:54 ER: how about unreasonable amounts of armor? ;p
07:00:04 ER: think a suitcase tank would help?
07:00:37 syv: Nightfall's demo released!
07:05:08 ER: can you like, stream it? :v
07:15:18 ER: I'm gonna go make myself some pasta
07:26:10 syv: And I shall install the mod :v
07:45:52 ER: spaghetti and meatballs aw yea
07:55:55 syv: Man I hope this doesn't ban me, the game started in online mode
08:04:59 ER: can't you check what items they have by pressing select?
08:05:48 ER: thought it worked in this screen
08:15:58 ER: so in 2hand you get teleport dodge but can't heal
08:18:09 ER: you got powder stuff, read the item description
08:20:54 ER: you might say that this is the dark souls of dark souls
08:24:02 ER: I get the feeling that this class might not be a starting class? like in from's own network tests, you get access to some more advanced classes.
08:27:45 ER: huh, sounds almost roguelikeish?
08:28:04 ER: like bosses come back when you die, and you have to kill all 12 in one run
08:30:31 ER: so in this game's lore the demons got stronger, as opposed to in from's lore where the demons dies out
08:36:30 ER: yes there was literally a
dev message telling you to hit enemies to heal
08:38:38 ER: oh, I think it's actually Rally
08:38:51 ER: the yellow part of your health bar sticks around for a long time
08:54:43 ER: looks like the forest hunter's stuff
08:55:46 ER: except the player character
09:09:52 ER: yeah I wanna play forest hunter class in this
09:21:52 ER: yeah I think the world's gonna end, and you'll have to time travel back to the start of the game
09:26:26 ER: looks like one of the lights in the tomb of the giants
09:30:56 ER: the mod is called nightfall
09:32:22 ER: made that clash sound effect again
09:58:14 ER: wait, didn't you get a normal shield?
10:13:58 ER: plank shield is like 45% so it should work I guess?
10:22:50 ER: old man stumbles aimlessly in the dark woods
10:24:23 ER: could use darksign to reload the area
10:26:34 ER: might have been able to advance past that npc you met, dashing accross the lava
10:28:26 ER: shadows of yharnam but they're dogs
10:29:14 ER: ooh, do they come back as red phantom dogs?
10:30:01 ER: is that a kalameet wolf with a katana
10:30:46 ER: have we heard the name guyra before?
10:31:48 ER: I think you might be supposed to fight unspirted and put it on to finish enemies? since it's fast to put on the sprite but slow to remove it
10:40:38 ER: but what we all need to know, is whether alida can calamity things
10:40:49 ER: 0HP is the ulitmate stagger
10:44:05 ER: you will however now need to beat this mod + true darkness when it comes out
11:00:22 ER: can't wait for you to kill guyra and he comes back as a red phantom
11:02:08 ER: it's kind of messed up that in these games you sometimes get very limited single use items, which you don't get back if you die
11:02:29 ER: really encourages NEVER using them unless you've found like, a vender
11:18:23 ER: kinda mean how the game hasn't given you any faith stuff when you picked the class with 20 faith
11:18:30 ER: besides your starting sword
11:19:00 ER: maybe you'll get options when you return to firelink shrine?
11:26:35 ER: think you're about out of time though
11:35:03 ER: uh oh, this game is going to make me remember what items are which, the thing I'm the worst at
11:35:23 ER: does the time travel reset your level?
11:37:35 ER: I'm wondering if you can get into izalith past that first npc you met with enough dashes
11:48:00 ER: I should probably take a nap or something, too
11:50:04 ER: ok, I'm gonna turn off stream now
12:09:37 syv: Mushrooms are a guaranteed resin drop
12:22:27 Devastator: how was the game,
syv? Missed it.
12:23:13 syv: I'll stream more tomorrow. Prolly finish the demo.
12:23:32 Devastator: played a bunch of DW. Not going to lose the game due to pirate shenanigans anymore.
12:23:53 Devastator: didn't destroy them, but took a foothold and blew up a large starbase.
12:24:11 Devastator: they had something like 250 combat ships.
12:25:02 Devastator: I think it's the only time where I wanted to shuttle in a relief fleet to deal with the horde of enemy tricklers.
12:25:40 Devastator: I couldn't get a refueling base up.. there were too many enemies to allow the constructors to actually build anything.
12:26:19 Devastator: I kinda botched it the first go around, but eventually made the foothold stick.
12:27:56 Devastator: It's also amusing to have a fleet admiral with 90 points in countermeasures.
12:28:23 Devastator: it's basically like my ships have twice the HP, because enemy shots keep missing.
12:30:23 Devastator: yeah. Unfortunately no offense-oriented admirals, and some real dud captains, but have countermeasures. And the captain for the admiral's actual vessel.. a repaired ancient capital ship also has like 40 points of CM.
12:30:29 Devastator: so that ship is essentially invincible.
12:32:31 Devastator: Nah, the real impressive leader I have is the colony governor with a 50% military ship build speed modifier.
12:32:54 Devastator: well, it didn't start that high, but there was a lot of XP building several starbases after they got blown up.
12:33:21 Devastator: having a 50% speed bonus on a small colony which has a slow normal build rate..
12:33:24 Devastator: it really changed the game.
12:33:49 Devastator: the only downside is that defensive bases have to have a civilian ship deliver them a load of fuel before they can use their guns.
12:33:56 Devastator: that includes starbases.
12:34:47 Devastator: Oh, also, auto-tax threw a monkey wrench in my game.
12:35:01 Devastator: It's the first time I've really seen the AI screw up like this.
12:35:19 Devastator: With all the morale bonuses, the AI set the taxes high enough that the private sector didn't make any money.
12:35:26 Devastator: which meant they didn't buy any ships.
12:35:34 Devastator: which meant they didn't expand my economy.
12:41:56 Devastator: Yeah, I mean.. it's an easy fix, but Utopia has slightly high maintenance costs. ;-p
12:53:15 syv: Utopia's maintenance costs are so high nobody has any money because it's all been taxed.
12:53:36 syv: But Utopia has bread, circuses, and hot green alien babes, so you can't really complain.
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