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03:14:50 MidJag: Ah that sucks, I just got over being sick
03:19:27 MidJag: So aside from being sick what've you been up to
ER?
03:20:07 ER: or part of a thing at least
03:34:38 Devastator: also,
MidJag, might need you to tiebreak in extinction.
03:35:18 Devastator: yeah, facing a choice.
03:35:45 Devastator: Can join a temprary party, lose access to 2/3 the party inventory, and you'd get to issue orders to six people for a prolongued combat.
03:36:05 Devastator: Or can not join the party, be sending orders for Trence only, and lie to people.
03:37:24 MidJag: This party, does it involve alchol?~
03:38:00 MidJag: Do we get to pick which parts we lose accsses to?
03:38:23 Devastator: Nope. It's also 'you keep a third', not a 33% chance of keeping any item.
03:38:32 Devastator: it represents just what's in Trence's backpack.
03:38:41 Devastator: which is hammerspace as long as he's in the main party.
03:38:44 MidJag: Ah, collapsing the hammerspace
03:39:07 Devastator: also, the other party members get to see his skills, including "Dragon Form."
03:39:23 MidJag: These people, are they friendly?
03:39:51 MidJag: And by friendly I mean not going to sell us out to the inquisition?
03:42:55 Devastator: right now you're on the ground, waiting for your chance to retreat through a door in the upperside wall.
03:43:12 Devastator: there's a couple hundred friendlies and about a thousand horse archers.
03:43:26 Devastator: the seige is on, currently.
03:43:47 MidJag: Okay better quesiton I can't remebr if people still rember what dragons are in this world
03:44:17 Devastator: No, basically nobody knows what dragons are, but Trence did show a couple of other people earlier.
03:44:32 Devastator: A guy I made in imitation of Helmet Guy from RE:Zero.
03:45:22 Devastator: Yeah. The one in the show is called Al, but I decided to literally name this guy Guy.
03:45:29 Devastator: so I can call him Helmet Guy and be correct. ;-p
03:51:33 Devastator: so they're basically friendly.
03:51:35 Devastator: any more questions?
03:52:15 MidJag: Do they seem friendly enough they would share any post battle booze?
03:53:09 Devastator: Do remember, though, Trence is immune to poison.
03:53:20 Devastator: so he can't actually get drunk.
03:53:22 MidJag: That is horribly dissapointing
03:53:45 Devastator: hey, he got some drinking done before he was immune. ;-p
03:54:02 MidJag: Well that's something at least~
03:54:33 Devastator: ..nah, he should be immune.
03:54:51 Devastator: 1-3, 1R resist. 4-7, 2R resist. 8-11, immune.
03:55:03 Devastator: 12+ absorb, so alcohol would pep him up.
03:55:26 MidJag: What's his current immunity?
03:55:51 Devastator: he's level 11, so he's immune.
03:56:08 MidJag: Damn shame, I want our dragon to get healthier from doing a keg stand
03:56:18 Devastator: I might have lost track at some point, but I'm saying he's 11.
03:56:34 Devastator: After this batlte I'll level him and Willis up to 12.
03:56:41 Devastator: which is where they'll stay.
03:56:46 MidJag: Oh right, when we lsoe our inventory does each stack get divided?
03:57:06 Devastator: yeah, it's by item not by stack.
03:57:34 MidJag: Ah, so everyone will problably at least get some form of healing item
03:57:54 MidJag: The 2 people we are sharing with
03:58:13 Devastator: yeah, Sessha and Willis will likely have some healing items.
03:58:18 Devastator: mind you, Sessha has spells for that.
03:58:39 Devastator: also,
ER said no party so I don't need it anymore.
03:58:58 Devastator: do feel free to read it, though. ;-p
03:59:19 MidJag: I keep meaning too and I swear something always comes up when I sit down to read it
03:59:47 MidJag: I will catch up don't you worry
04:01:53 Devastator: mmm, which form is the cutest...
04:02:10 Devastator: probably either white or red.
04:03:01 Devastator: Which trence dragon.
04:03:40 Devastator: white is all chubby!
04:04:04 Devastator: Red you haven't seen yet, but it's got big 'ol eyes.
04:06:29 MidJag: Aww. Well both remind me of my familys dogs, but I'll go with white
04:06:44 Devastator: brown is a bit blocky, yellow is basically an eel-dragon, silver (wind) is puffy and has odd striped ridges to accomodate for that.
04:07:12 Devastator: blue has a sort of fish-nose bulldog thooth thing going on.
04:07:43 Devastator: Venom green is pretty good, just not as cute as red or white.
04:07:51 Devastator: Nature green is all thorny.
04:08:33 Devastator: Blade Dragon is like a huge starving hairless dog with spikes all over. Much less cute.
04:08:48 MidJag: That does sound much less cute
04:08:58 MidJag: Do they look different as Trent gets older?
04:09:40 Devastator: Normally they would all grow a bit, but I'm gonna say the process stopped after Trence got stoned.
04:12:06 Devastator: Other than the elemental ones, all the advanced ones will appear as adult dragons.
04:12:31 MidJag: So what do like adult dragons look like in their dragon forms? Still that size or can they get huge?
04:13:06 Devastator: well, if they just have one element they're bigger, but a single element adult dragon in dragonform would normally be smaller than Blade Dragon.
04:13:22 Devastator: not massively so, still significantly bigger than a person is.
04:13:53 MidJag: So what's a multielement one look like then?
04:14:04 Devastator: Like a combo of the two that are mixed.
04:14:22 Devastator: and like Trence, slightly bigger than either, but not much.
04:14:34 Devastator: Three elements come out orange coloured.
04:15:06 Devastator: There are a few advanced forms that affect size.. Little are shoulder-sitters, and Big dragons are big.
04:15:55 MidJag: This sounds vaguelly familiar now that you mention it
04:16:04 Devastator: Yeah, I think I've talked about them with you.
04:16:13 Devastator: first stage are all elements save Void.
04:16:29 Devastator: fire, cold, water, wind, lightning, and earth. And nature/poison.
04:16:57 Devastator: advanced ones are little, big, blade, armour, magic, and flight.
04:17:09 Devastator: There's a couple of endgame ones.
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04:59:15 ER: I found dunkey on youtube, and now I'm stuck watching a bunch of his videos, predictably
05:03:00 Devastator: Three people and a
dev.
05:05:20 syv: No, he's not user-friendly enough
05:05:24 ER: like the more advanced version of a naturegirl
05:06:00 syv:
Devastator, play despacito.
05:06:06 MidJag: From my very limited interactions with naturegirl it's unique
05:06:22 MidJag: and by interactions I mean reading some of her actions in stuff I follow
05:06:33 Devastator: I'm not sure what planet NG is from, but it isn't this one.
05:06:49 syv: Yes, NG has a magical way of thinking
05:07:09 syv: It's connected to reality, but just tenuously enough to fall into the uncanny valley
05:07:23 Devastator: alternatively, one could say stuff like that about me..
05:07:39 syv: "There is a corpse jamming the gears. I should rip out their stomach and dump stomach acid all over it to dissolve the body."
05:08:15 Devastator: she did the acid thing to someone else?
05:08:20 Devastator: that came up in Extinction, too.
05:08:26 MidJag: That was an actual action?
05:08:27 syv: "There is an enemy who can mind control me if I physically touch them. I'll skin this corpse and wear the skin to protect myself."
05:08:37 syv: Yes, both of these were in MOOK.
05:08:52 Devastator: actually, that part seems like it could actually work.
05:08:55 ER: thats a novel way of fighting derp
05:08:58 MidJag: Okay that second one at least kinda makes sense
05:09:20 ER: a normal suit would have worked just as well as skinning a corpse :p
05:09:27 MidJag: Right that's kinda the issue
05:09:33 syv: ...A normal suit which she already had.
05:09:38 Devastator: so you make a suit out of the corpse.
05:09:42 ER: also you can get mind controlled by him by any means of perception, not just touch
05:09:43 Devastator: Do you not follow? ;-p
05:09:48 syv: I think she only made gloves, as well.
05:10:00 MidJag: I mean yeah a suit takes a lot of effort to make
05:10:17 MidJag: That's like hours to days of sewing.
05:10:20 syv: In fact I'm pretty sure gloves _still_ don't work, because if you hit something with your hand, you're still perceiving it.
05:11:15 ER: yeah, but not as bad as like... running your hand over him and feeling his texture?
05:11:22 Devastator: that's a fair point.
05:11:38 syv: I don't think there's much of any "not as bad" with Derp
05:11:43 MidJag: MOOK is
PW's WWII
ER right?
05:11:51 ER: the impact of running into something which you feel with your kinestetic sense is a different thing from its texture, I guess
05:12:00 syv: Nope, that was 888th. Which finished awhile ago.
05:12:02 Devastator: Nah, it's
ER II, basically.
05:12:08 Devastator: too
er-like for me, sorry.
05:12:20 Devastator: next game hopefully.
05:12:24 syv: MOOK is about being the background security mooks in a facility like Phobos Base.
05:13:18 MidJag: I do wonder sometimes if NG just had a very sheltered upbrinigng
05:14:09 syv: Okay so... we had a mission to contain a man that's essentially an SCP, with the power to control anyone who perceives him in any way. The control wears off after awhile, but is unbreakable while active.
05:14:10 MidJag: Or she's just really young
05:14:45 ER: only a couple years younger than me
05:15:11 syv: Slaves obey any order given by Derp, and do *basically* whatever he wanted when they perceived him, in a loose sense.
05:16:29 syv: The effect is maintained through reproductions of video and recordings of him, but not still images. And videos and such would maintain the mind control "orders" that were present at the time they were taken.
05:16:35 Devastator: what happens if you get plastered?
05:16:38 ER: also derp is a sociopath, either coincidentially or due to never being able to meet anybody who isn''t his slave
05:16:55 ER: so they put him in a box because he's magic and then he got out, oops
05:17:14 syv: So a video of him while he wanted a hamburger (which he didn't give any indication of wanting) makes people want to give him a hamburger, and always will, even later once he's fed. The psychic "signal" is static.
05:17:26 syv: But anyway, while controlled by him, people would call him "Mr Friend?
05:17:43 syv: This was the only name we were given.
05:18:38 MidJag: And derp evolved from that?
05:19:00 syv: Since we could be compromised easily at any time, and the only obvious sign would be that we no longer were his enemy, I decide to have my character A) rename him with an insulting name ("Derp"), and to B) *ALWAYS CONTINUALLY* talk about hurting and insulting Derp.
05:19:26 syv: So if at any moment my char reverted to calling him Mr Friend, or stopped wanting to excavate Derp urethera
05:19:50 syv: People would know my char (who also happened to have max gun skill...) was MC'd
05:20:17 syv: This was to a limited extent adopted by other people, at least the "Calling him Derp" part.
05:20:39 syv: Which may be in part due to my character saying "FUCK DERP FUCK DERP FUCK DERP" on damn near every single post
05:21:11 Devastator: Seems a bit complicated. ;-p
05:21:17 Devastator: couldn't you just use a drone with no sound, IR vision, and a tranq gun of some kind?
05:21:38 MidJag: So NG wants to make a suit out of a person to prevent her from being able to percive him?
05:21:46 syv: This corporation has fully autonomous robots which were fully immune to Derp's control.
05:21:50 MidJag: ...Couldn't she just use a blindfold and some cotton?
05:21:57 syv: They used mooks instead for unexplained reasons.
05:22:16 MidJag: You guys are way way cheaper then the maitenence costs for the robots~
05:22:23 syv: That is what the rest of us did. Actually, we did better, but.
05:22:45 ER: nature wanted a set of human skin gloves, in case she accidentially touched derp with her hands
05:23:01 MidJag: Was she wearing a space suit?
05:23:04 syv: Without otherwise perceiving him
05:23:29 syv: I don't think she had a *space* suit, but she had a standard issue jumpsuit. And plenty of opportunity to get normal gloves.
05:23:49 syv: ...I think she also *did* get a spacesuit later, and kept wearing the humanskin gloves.
05:23:59 syv: That may have just been because she forgot about them though
05:24:09 MidJag: So kinda like Milo except completly insanse~
05:25:12 MidJag: So I guess my other question is how long did it take her to make gloves?
05:25:53 syv: Eh, I think like one or two turns
05:26:04 MidJag: Eh fair enough, need to move the game along.
05:26:10 syv: She just skinned a man's hand then stabled the cuts shut or something.
05:27:01 MidJag: I wonder what trying to do an escape room with NG would be like~
05:27:44 ER: I wouldn't want to be in the same room as her when she's in problem solving mode
05:27:54 Devastator: you just need a bigger knife.
05:29:16 syv: My char has done WAY more teamkilling in that game
05:29:34 MidJag: The IRC doing an escape room would be entertaining, I would get distracted and just start trying to guess the password,
ER would be trying to stab a problem and
Dev and
syv would be arguing about a basic clue.
05:30:09 ER: now this is what we call a destructive entry method, pay close attention
05:30:52 syv: Further, me and
Dev would already either know or have figured out the solution, we'd be arguing over the rule simply to argue.
05:31:09 Devastator: Actually, I've never done an escape room, and from what I've seen of them, don't think I'd do well.
05:31:31 MidJag: Yup and meanwhile I somehow guess a combination and just skip like half the room.
05:31:44 MidJag: Neither have I actually.
05:31:50 ER: I would then get bored and impatient for you two to just finish it
05:32:00 ER: so that I can go home and watch youtube
05:32:43 Devastator: I'd miss a clue and would just read a book.
05:37:51 MidJag: I typically am really bad a a lot of escape room adventure game kinda things
05:39:14 MidJag: Although I've never struggled with any thinking problem more so then a fucking legend of zelda puzzle
05:40:11 ER: I think the consensus here is that we would fail the room
05:40:35 MidJag: There was a puzzle in Phantom hourglass which was on the DS that has you "press the seal into the a chart" Which had you physcially close your DS while you had the map on one screen and the seal on the other
05:40:44 MidJag: This gimmick is never used or mentioned ever again
05:41:18 Devastator: Ouch, that sort of thing sucks.
05:41:19 syv: Ahh, I've heard of that one.
05:41:44 Devastator: It's no Wizardry IV, but.. ouch.
05:41:51 MidJag: the first time I played it, I thought it was just bugged and reset the game
05:41:59 MidJag: And played back up that point
05:42:03 syv: Hey,
ER, have you seen any updates on where Call of Earth is at?
05:42:39 Devastator: how far into the game is it,
MJ?
05:43:08 Devastator: man, wonder how you do that on emulator.
05:44:01 MidJag: Literally the only way I got it was I got so mad while looking at the screen I just closed my DS tossed it onto a pillow and was like I'm never playing this game again, when I came back it was solved because I accidently did the action.
05:45:37 Devastator: "Lets make this potentially annoying puzzle solvable by getting really angry!"
05:45:42 MidJag: and like the game has established that doing things on the map affect things in the game, but you always drew them with the stylus, so I spent forever trying to painstakingly draw the fuckign seal
05:47:13 Devastator: that does not sound fun.
05:47:31 MidJag: I once saw a video talking about various zelda games and the dude genuinely stopped the whole video to spend a solid 3 mintues complaining about that one puzzle.
05:47:42 MidJag: And I was like finnally I feel vinidcated
05:47:58 syv: I think everyone who knows about that puzzle hates it
05:48:20 syv: I've heard of it a few times, and in all cases it was someone or other complaining vehemently about it
05:49:49 MidJag: It just the single most irritating puzzle or logic thing ever. It's like an evil version of the mysterious benedict society puzzle
05:50:16 MidJag: ....which I just googled and is now somehow a TV show?
05:50:17 Devastator: Man, I have to tell you about Wizardry IV,
MJ. ;-p
05:50:59 Devastator: it's the game where they had to package it with an envelope telling players how to get out of the first room.
05:52:11 MidJag: Is that the one you showed me where the dude played it with charecters from heavy metal?
05:52:49 Devastator: that was Wizardry I.
05:52:54 Devastator: IV is much, much worse.
05:53:06 MidJag: How is it possibly worse then that game?
05:53:12 Devastator: look at that floor map.
05:53:42 Devastator: if you've got an hour, try to figure out how you map that out and find the way to the upstairs. ;-p
05:54:18 MidJag: I like hard games, but I draw the line at games that have me draw things on paper next to the game~
05:55:02 Devastator: With that game, they playtested it with one of the best players of the genre in the world, who was a big fan of the previous game.
05:55:12 Devastator: It took that person two solid months to beat it.
05:55:45 MidJag: ...Apperently it has a 3D maze? In a game represented entierlly in 2D?
05:55:50 MidJag: What mindbending fuckery is this
05:56:07 Devastator: The kind that has never been seen before or since.
05:56:26 Devastator: I'm pretty much wholly convinced that Wizardry IV is the hardest game ever created.
05:56:57 Devastator: it's essentially invisible inter-floor teleports,
MJ. ;-p
05:57:25 ER: some people should not make game maps~
05:57:38 syv: The spin traps in that level alert you when you're spun, right?
05:57:50 MidJag: And huh your right, they did have to include a letter explaining how to leave the first room
05:58:00 Devastator: but the one-way walls make that super hard.
05:59:13 syv: I'd think the way you map it is just... trace all your steps exactly, and restart if you hit a spin trap.
05:59:25 syv: Gruelling, but actually kinda straightforward...?
05:59:48 syv: The light grey walls with no arrows are two-way, right?
06:00:25 Devastator: the light grey walls with no arrows are invisible walls, unless they're marking a spinner.
06:00:31 Devastator: ie, solid but impassable.
06:00:47 syv: You mean invisible but impassable?
06:01:14 syv: How does one reach the right side of the level, then?
06:01:29 syv: The exit is in the upper right, yes?
06:02:02 Devastator: the trick is at 10,0
06:02:06 Devastator: head south, then east, then north.
06:02:35 Devastator: the next pentagram at 12,0 marks the start of the exit corridor.
06:02:50 ER: are there even any enemies or otherwise interesting content or just one big troll
06:03:00 Devastator: Yeah, there are enemy encounters.
06:03:04 syv: It's an old dungeon crawl game,
ER.
06:03:09 syv: Enemies aren't interesting content.
06:03:27 Devastator: that's also partly true, yeah, you can deplete the supply of enemies if you clear them all.
06:03:33 Devastator: but if you save, they come back.
06:03:36 MidJag: Also from what I'm reading every enemy you fight weakens you
06:03:48 MidJag: Since there's no XP or leveling up
06:03:57 MidJag: Until you reach the end of the level.
06:04:01 syv: So you can go from the top line of the map to the bottom line seemlessly
06:04:45 Devastator: unless there's a wall marked, it wraps.
06:05:06 Devastator: Technically you get a refill every time you hit a pentagram,
MJ. And a level each time you hit a pentagram on a new dungeon level.
06:05:07 syv: Then... yeah. Just plot the path out, restarting if you hit any spins.
06:05:29 Devastator: many spins are mandatory,
syv.
06:06:16 Devastator: start out, you have to head E, E, then N, and N, landing you on a spin. To advance, you need to land facing E, step on a second spinner, and then go E off that one.
06:06:29 syv: ...[4,2] is mandatory, I guess?
06:07:47 syv: I guess I'd need multiple sheets. That one is at least nice in that you have feedback in which way you *leave* the spinner.
06:08:13 syv: Yeah, all four directions are visibly different.
06:08:38 syv: ...And it'd be relatively easy to determine that both west and north are just a loop back.
06:09:03 syv: Very exhausting level. But increasingly isn't looking that *hard*?
06:09:27 Devastator: facing west off the first spinner, you see a right-turn passageway.
06:09:31 syv: West has three tiles visible, with the third tile branching left and right.
06:09:44 syv: North has two tiles visible, with the second tile branching left
06:09:58 syv: South has two tiles visible, with no visible branching.
06:10:06 Devastator: N you see a passageway with a left and right turn at the end.
06:10:07 syv: West and north both loop back to the start.
06:10:25 Devastator: Sout you see a two turn passage, with a right turn at the end.
06:10:27 syv: Ahhh, there's another spin there.
06:10:40 syv: Fuck you,
Dev, now I want to try to navigate this fucking thing.
06:10:52 syv: But the random encounters from actually playing would be too annoying.
06:11:03 Devastator: and Trebor's Ghost.
06:11:31 Devastator: I wouldn't play Wiz IV for an audience unless I'm paid six figures.
06:12:09 ER: that's why we're getting
sy to do it instead
06:12:11 Devastator: Six figures for the one playthrough.
06:12:21 Devastator: I do not want to play Wiz IV.
06:12:45 Devastator: I think I could live with playing it for $100k.
06:12:50 syv: That makes it more reasonable, yeah.
06:13:05 syv: That prolly works out to an okay hourly wage. An excellent one if you can use a walkthrough.
06:13:10 Devastator: it would also include a sincere attempt to map levels.
06:13:32 syv: I'd play for two figures, if I got a consistent hourly wage ;P
06:14:10 ER: gimmie five bucks and I'll play it till I'm not having fun
06:14:15 syv: "I've been stuck on this floor for forty hours. Well, that's a full work week of pay, so fine. Whatever.
06:15:02 syv: I wouldn't play the actual game without running cheat engine.
06:15:02 Devastator: but yeah, beating it would be months of pain.
06:15:15 Devastator: It's fairly clunky.
06:15:18 Devastator: I'm not sure CE would work.
06:15:34 syv: I imagine it wouldn't, because I imagine it's in an emulator?
06:15:56 syv: Haven't ever actually tried to CE an emulated game.
06:16:03 syv: Savestates wouldn't be good enough,
ER.
06:16:20 syv: I specifically want to crank up damage, and lock HP, so I can mindlessly click past enemy encounters.
06:16:36 syv: Mapping a bullshit dungeon level, sure, I wouldn't mind that too much;
06:16:59 syv: Having to do it while spending a few minutes on enemies every few steps? Yeah that'd be fucking annoying.
06:17:14 syv: And *then* having them end my game and redo progress would be extremely frustrating.
06:17:15 Devastator: lots of enemy insta-deaths,
syv. ;-p
06:17:39 MidJag: So are the dungeons random? Like do they change if you die?
06:17:42 syv: I am sure CE could get around that, if it could properly access the game.
06:18:21 Devastator: I suspect random dungeons would make it literally impossible.
06:18:45 Devastator: writing a generator to be that evil is a challenge.
06:19:05 MidJag: Ah well then with this map
Dev would already have an unfair advantage~
06:19:44 syv: Writing a generator to create *anything* equivalent to a hand crafted level is a challenge.
06:19:59 Devastator: you can do pretty good.
06:20:14 Devastator: HoMM II had a random map gen that was much better than you'd expect.
06:20:34 Devastator: also, maze generation is a very old thing in computing.
06:22:44 Devastator: oh, also the thieves that can steal plot items and escape.
06:23:29 MidJag: who hurt these game devs that they felt the need to make everyone suffer?
06:24:50 syv: I hope CoH has a mutation table
06:25:16 syv: Looking through Infinite Kowloon's mutation tables, and I like them. Some are bullshit... but a lot of fun neat stuff.
06:25:18 Devastator: It was a different era,
MJ. But even then it was too much pain.
06:25:29 Devastator: probably is a mutation table, actually.
06:25:33 Devastator: it'd make a lot of sense in setting.
06:25:37 syv: WIZARDS was better, I dislike the city theming, but CoH shouldn't have that.
06:25:46 MidJag: Oh yeah did you guys see that dorm building that's pretty much just a nicer version of Kowloon?
06:25:58 syv: Hopefully it's more organic than it was in WIZARDS, too.
06:26:16 ER: I'm not sure if it was really nicer,
mj
06:27:08 syv: Some of these are bullshit, though. Beyond the obligatory [YOU DIED] entry, there's stuff like "Your heart is now an internal combustion engine. If you don't drink a gallon of gasoline every day, you die."
06:27:25 ER: basically some rich dude did a donation to a collage, with the requirement that they have to build the building he designed, which would take more money to build than he donated
06:27:39 syv: Which has the same chances as growing a rebreather on your back, which gives permanent immunity to breath impairment/airborne toxins.
06:27:46 ER: and it's just a bunch of dorms copy and pasted together so that there's no light or air
06:28:27 MidJag: Honestlly it might be kinda fun to live in
06:29:07 syv: Why would he require them to build a building that is just a repeated copy paste of a smaller building???
06:29:16 MidJag: Though smokeing weed in those dorms would pose challenges.
06:29:48 ER: it is actually a social experiment, but a dumb one
06:31:05 MidJag: Oh man, dorm parties would be something in that place, poorly maintained parts of that building. Because it would be gigantic and there is no way the university is actually putting rescouces into maintaining it.
06:34:10 Devastator: music might be rough.
06:34:42 MidJag: Yeah, and if the cops get called you'd have like 1,000 students scattering to the 4 winds
06:34:57 MidJag: Since there's like 4,000 people in that dorm
06:34:57 Devastator: just have 1000 people each claiming to be Sparticus.
06:36:01 MidJag: Man, this dorm seems like it would be incrediblly fun if you never studied or did anything even vaguelly studious
06:36:18 MidJag: So pretty much it's made Kowloon the walled the frat house
06:37:03 syv: I think it says something about you if you think a building that is several smaller buildings copy pasted next to each other would be "incredibly fun"
06:37:33 MidJag: I mean I do live in a fraternity house
06:37:33 syv: Yo dawg I heard you like dorms, so I put a dorm in your dorm so you can dorm while you dorm
06:38:13 MidJag: Though I was miserable in the hill, but that was also a very different experince
06:38:25 Devastator: inside each dorm, a smaller dorm!
06:44:43 MidJag: But I'm an introverted extrovert. I like a lot of social stuff
06:45:22 syv: I think you're just a progressive extrovert living in Alabama.
06:45:38 MidJag: Heh, it's also possible
06:46:09 MidJag: I'll be going somewhere else in like 6 months though so that's kinda crazy
06:49:38 Devastator: how's your project coming?
06:54:21 MidJag: slow, the manufacturer for my kit seems to have had some supply chain issues, becuase it was only supposed to be on backorder for less then 2 weeks and it's stil on backorder
06:54:32 MidJag: 2 and a half weeks later
06:56:24 Devastator: was reading up on something, actually.
06:56:31 Devastator: be glad you aren't working on sturgeon genetics.
06:56:37 Devastator: guess how many chromosomes they have?
06:57:32 MidJag: When you have more chromosones then corn you have a problem
06:57:48 Devastator: why does wheat have so many chromosomes?
06:58:23 MidJag: Because wheat is a genetic monster of thousand upon thousands of years of selective breeding
06:58:56 MidJag: At least that's what I've always heard
06:59:10 Devastator: and no selective breeding.
07:00:18 Devastator: apparently it had 60, and then some duplication happened.
07:01:09 Devastator: six copies of seven (for wheat) doean't seem that bad.
07:01:17 Devastator: not like 4 copies of 60.
07:02:01 MidJag: Oh right, it's not he chomsoners, it's the genes in wheat.
07:02:28 MidJag: They've got a ton of different genes and their genome is huge
07:03:19 MidJag: But yeah that is kinda crazy
07:03:48 Devastator: How many do flies have?
07:03:49 MidJag: Also like a lot of work for their cells
07:04:07 Devastator: Sturgeon are pretty slow glowers.
07:05:13 syv: Living reproducing animals are weird
07:07:56 Devastator: a lot of work for cells, yeah.
07:08:05 Devastator: speaking of reproduction, fertilization must be a hell of a thing.
07:08:20 Devastator: 'well, we have to make 240 correct pairings'
07:08:42 MidJag: I wonder if they have more mutations just cause they've got so many goddamn chromosomes
07:08:56 Devastator: Don't think so, acutally.
07:09:06 Devastator: sturgeon seem to be pretty slow at that sort of thing.
07:09:27 Devastator: take two hundred thousand years to spread to the next river over.
07:10:20 MidJag: Welp, that might be related, gotta go slow so you don't end up just a mass of cancer
07:12:59 Devastator: yeah. They're also a bit like sharks.
07:13:03 Devastator: don't change much over time.
07:13:04 syv: Yeah, I'd expect absurd redundancy to *protect* from mutations
07:27:41 Devastator: oh,
syv, how's the PM convo working for Quest?
07:28:32 Devastator: is it all messed up in your conversation view?
07:29:33 syv: One long chain of messages, all on one page. It could get to be an issue in the future, if the game goes on super long... but I'm yet to have a PM chain that was actually problematic, and I've got longer ones going right now.
07:30:03 syv: Helpfully, clicking on the chain title autoscrolls to the bottom, as does checking it for the first time with new messages.
07:30:28 Devastator: aight. I don't know if I've always been responding to the best message.
07:31:15 syv: As long as you reply to any message in the chain, it's included, I believe.
07:31:29 syv: So it works as long as you don't use "new message".
07:32:30 syv: Thanks for thinking about it. ^-^
07:33:45 syv: It's a very good view for PM games, IMO. Not only does it keep the inbox from having pages of [game name], it means I can search the entire game just with ctrl+f.
07:34:45 Devastator: I might have to switch over.
07:35:06 syv: Simple enough to try. Can just revert if you don't like it.
07:35:16 Devastator: I don't like it in general. I meant for the game.
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