01:08:54 Devastator: watching that guy who does total war campaign fixes for people.
01:09:06 Devastator: "There's loads of things to address in this battle, so bear with me. Units like this, these Blood Knights, aren't very good, because they're anti-large. And this Dwarf army, well, there isn't very much Large here."
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05:03:26 Devastator: It isn't always 'cheese with ranged units.'
05:30:04 ER: though it'll always be exploiting AI which can't comprehend what's going on ;P
05:32:17 Devastator: I'm tempted to say M:TW was better, but it wasn't, really.
05:32:26 Devastator: there just were fewer tools you could use to do that kinda shit.
05:32:40 Devastator: no tireless units there, say.
05:32:55 Devastator: so your super-knights get tired.
05:34:40 Devastator: Things were also slower, so you really had to be careful with positioning.
05:35:25 Devastator: you could still cheese things to hell, it's just that the work was to get your good melee units beating up on their shit melee units, or to get your knights into a flank charge to break the enemy, or to get your archers on that hill.
05:36:22 ER: oh, hehe the lord gets pretty covered in blood in her little 3d portrait
05:37:31 ER: confused rattos keep running back and forth
05:43:53 Devastator: ..also, the best way to kill melee infantry was with other melee infantry.
05:44:13 Devastator: dirt cheap spearmen with big shields were a pain to actually kill any other way.
05:48:24 Devastator: ..although the counters there, glass-fragile urban halberdiers would melt to cav or archers. Or the significantly more expensive proper Armoured Swords-dudes would stand up ok to some archers but would still die to knights.
05:48:57 Devastator: but dirt cheap spearmen, well, they wouldn't kill any knights, they just would never die.
05:52:25 Devastator: so you pin them and shoot them in the head with crossbows.
05:53:19 ER: sounds complicated. why not just magic missile them.
05:54:30 Devastator: Yup. Different era.
06:08:48 Devastator: you know, shields in M:TW are about equivalent to 65% missile defense for big shields and 35% missile defense for small ones.
08:38:15 Devastator: also
syv wants to smash.
08:39:19 Devastator: I don't think we actually need to fight.
08:43:10 Devastator: although it implies we got attacked.
08:48:40 ER: they got what they wanted and didn't care about continuties lost one way or the other
08:59:17 ER: remind me to actually give that haltar ship stats if yall shoot at it
09:07:52 Devastator: I'm going to let someone else make that decision.
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