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05:18:36 MidJag: not bad, finnally fucking done with secondaires.
05:19:23 MidJag: Yeah for sure, I guess I just need to get into a school now~
05:19:31 Devastator: I'm sure you'll make it.
05:19:38 Devastator: oh, got my vaccination.
05:19:58 Devastator: yeah, got the second shot last week.
05:20:08 Devastator: was a bit tired the next day, but no biggie.
05:20:10 MidJag: And yeah, I think I'm in a better shot for getting into it then I was last year.
05:20:43 MidJag: I felt tired as hell, but I aslo got just shitfaced that night, so my hangover probably dind't help~
05:20:46 Devastator: yeah, last year was weird.
05:20:50 Devastator: sounds like normal.
05:21:43 Devastator: yeah. Things are busy for me, have had to work a bunch of overtime and some six day weeks.
05:27:27 Devastator: plus have to deal with there being no salt for the softeners, so the boiler got fucked up by raw water.
05:27:58 Devastator: Accountant was on vacation last week, and I need salt every week.
05:28:28 MidJag: He didn't just automate it?
05:29:18 Devastator: There's been some fights about returning their special pallets.
05:29:31 Devastator: I just want enough salt to properly regen the softeners before we break the boiler.
05:29:50 Devastator: which is like five million dollars and a month out of service.
05:30:05 Devastator: it's the most valuable piece of equipment there.
05:30:39 Devastator: It's also special, because we just had the inspector in and found out it's the only one of that brand in the city.
05:30:57 MidJag: Heh, so good luck getting a replacment is what I'm hearing
05:31:15 Devastator: Boilers are relatively interchangeable, so that's not the issue, just neat to find out.
05:31:23 Devastator: It does make the site a bit odd, though.
05:31:39 MidJag: Did the company that made it go bust or something?
05:32:03 Devastator: Which is kind of odd.
05:32:05 MidJag: That's a long way to bring a boiler.
05:32:11 Devastator: Not really for the price.
05:32:20 Devastator: when shipping is 0.2% of the item cost..
05:32:37 Devastator: Anyway, but it's a bit odd.
05:32:53 Devastator: whoever put together the basic equipment for the plant way back when made some interesting choices.
05:33:53 Devastator: The big tunnel washer is from a company in Louisiana, along with their big iron dryer and two single-unit washer extractors.
05:34:13 Devastator: There are a few additional models of various sizes from there.
05:34:40 Devastator: there are some essentially large stand-alone dyers from ADC.. which is from Milwaukee. Their home brand is actually Whirlpool, fwiw.
05:34:57 Devastator: The boiler is Japanese, but it's a pretty high-quality model for what it is.
05:35:13 Devastator: How'd you find that out?
05:35:38 Devastator: The big three-drum ironer is from Belgium. It's also a really nice unit.
05:35:38 MidJag: Because they made shit for swift boats in Vietnam, and my dads from the midwest and loves obscure histroical facts.
05:36:11 MidJag: And I knew that whirpool makes a shit ton of things.
05:36:38 Devastator: although it actually looks like a buyout and then a rebrand and then a spinoff.
05:36:50 MidJag: Huh, well I didn't know that.
05:36:54 Devastator: Those dryers are kinda shit, actually.
05:37:13 MidJag: I'll belive that, my familys home dryer just broke actually
05:37:15 Devastator: Yeah. Always breaking down, and they laid out the electronics really, really badly.
05:37:48 Devastator: There's a few other mistakes in the igniter design that makes it rely on how much thin metal bars are bent.
05:37:58 Devastator: which is something that doesn't stay the same forever.
05:38:32 Devastator: the bad electronics also mean you have to be slamming on contactors to fit them into the machine.
05:38:38 Devastator: which can break them.
05:39:03 Devastator: They just arranged the modules in such a way that they want to run into each other.
05:39:37 Devastator: There's also not much room, but only because they built a box on the back of the machine that uses about 40% of the available space.
05:40:01 Devastator: Holds the electronics to the frame.
05:40:08 Devastator: and you want a cover over it because it's a dryer.
05:40:21 Devastator: so yeah, there's space for it, they just made it too small for very little reason.
05:40:47 MidJag: Probably cheaper on mateirals or something
05:40:48 Devastator: could easily have added a couple inches in each direction, which would make it much easier to repair.
05:41:03 MidJag: Or they want it to break and you to buy a new one~
05:41:04 Devastator: yeah, but it's.. like a dollar worth of sheet metal.
05:42:36 MidJag: Dunno, corpo's are dumb ~
05:42:38 Devastator: They dont' sell the part that you can break, fwiw.
05:42:55 Devastator: you can buy them, but it's subcontracted.
05:43:04 Devastator: which might have been the issue, maybe they planned for a different part.
05:43:16 Devastator: sorry, not subcontracted.
05:43:37 MidJag: If there's on thing I've learned from reaserching stocks it's that like 90% of CEO's seem to activelly hate the company they run and want to make it worse and the other 10% are getting there~
05:44:27 Devastator: They like the money. ;-p
05:44:27 MidJag: But yeah that could be, expected to make a different part and the manufacturing didn't work out.
05:44:33 Devastator: But nah, I've seen some very good companies too.
05:45:16 Devastator: I needed some very detailed information about a specific inverter from Fuji Electronics last year, and both their documentation and helpline were spectacular.
05:45:32 Devastator: like beyond spectacular.
05:46:26 MidJag: Ah yeah, that's always nice
05:46:27 MidJag: Documentation is an underapreciated thing.
05:46:29 Devastator: Also, it's always impressive finding out how the world actually makes stuff.
05:46:40 Devastator: every single thing is super specialized.
05:46:49 Devastator: it's someone's job to do it right.
05:46:55 Devastator: and it might be only one person in the world.
05:47:33 Devastator: every little tiny thing is one bit.
05:48:13 MidJag: the world is pretty neat somteimes.
05:48:27 Devastator: I mean, and then you find the right person and it's beautiful.
05:49:03 Devastator: Just a beautiful conversation with the guy who actually knows how this works.
05:49:36 MidJag: That's always nice just talking to someone with an intimiate understanding of a subject.
05:49:37 Devastator: It really shows the difference between scrubs and experts.
05:53:18 Devastator: I do hope we get to see more organs in Cells.
05:53:41 MidJag: Yes that, I want to see bones and just see a bunch of crazed mechanics rapidly reshaping things
05:54:20 Devastator: I didn't even think of that until you said it.
05:54:22 Devastator: we have to see bones.
05:54:53 Devastator: although maybe we did. Platelet episode had big boxes labeled "Ca"
05:55:02 Devastator: and they were like pouring concrete.
05:55:21 MidJag: Ah that's true...that's dissapointing bones do so much more then just structure.
05:55:41 MidJag: They're like structure if you occasionaly borrowed that strcuture to solve chemistry problems.
05:56:27 Devastator: well next one is the origin episode.
05:56:35 Devastator: so we should see some bone marrow.
05:57:01 MidJag: I want to see white blood cells insanse siblings.
05:58:10 MidJag: Though I would like to see the liver.
05:58:26 Devastator: I think the liver would take multiple episodes.
05:58:43 Devastator: There'd be like the junkyard, the garbage dump, big dissolving vats..
05:58:48 Devastator: madmen with chainsaws.
05:59:12 Devastator: it's where chemicals go to die.
05:59:47 MidJag: I feel like the boreing one is gonna be the kidney, they're marvels of filtration but I just get bored with learning about the different filtration after a while.
06:00:06 MidJag: Though they are intresting from a transplant perspective.
06:01:08 MidJag: Well most of the current immunosupressents are nephratoxic, so figuring out how to balance that is tricky apperentlly.
06:03:37 Devastator: yeah, that would cause issues.
06:03:57 MidJag: Yeah, since too much and you destory the kidney too little and the immune system does it.
06:05:37 MidJag: Oh yeah so apperently code black isn't in a dying body but in an ailing body suffering from various preexisting conditions, like obesity and such.
06:05:58 MidJag: Which does sound intresting I'll admit if rather depressing.
06:06:45 Devastator: I kinda thought it might mean dead or dying.
06:06:48 Devastator: instead it means bad.
06:07:18 MidJag: Every hospital has different color codes, but yeah typically black is not a good code.
06:09:35 MidJag: Hmm, when I worked in an outpaitent center there was a code for an earthquake of various magnitudes, there were no instrucitons on what to do in that case, but they had it there just in case apperentlly. So that you could figure out that the earth shaking was in fact an earthquake.
06:09:35 Devastator: oh man. This could be -so- good as a horror show.
06:09:58 Devastator: 'hi, every day you get three random calls from nowhere.'
06:10:17 MidJag: Oh yes, they have a transcript, thank god
06:11:24 MidJag: God damn this does sound like a horror movie
06:11:45 Devastator: I don't have time for podcasts, but I'm always up for a weird transcript.
06:13:06 Devastator: And damn, I'm afraid the result will probably be something boring from that one, but it's one hell of a weird problem.
06:15:41 Devastator: I'm also impressed at the guy's ability to find the right person.
06:15:52 Devastator: good reporter, that is.
06:16:25 Devastator: PJ: Dave told me like basically all he needed to do was just like, visit Jodie's office, look at her phone, and he could figure out what kind of banal cross wire had created this problem.
06:16:28 Devastator: PJ: I was like, "OK, but just in case, could I send you the recordings, just so you could hear them?" Two hours later, I got a message from Dave that said, "What the actual hell?"
06:16:43 MidJag: That would be my reaciton as well.
06:16:51 MidJag: I would assume it would be stagged or somethnig
06:17:08 Devastator: at one point I was a telemarketer.
06:17:13 Devastator: Got an elevator one time.
06:17:34 Devastator: There was someone there and we couldn't figure out what happened.
06:17:41 Devastator: somewhere in Oregon.
06:17:54 Devastator: I also got some small-shot CEO guy once.
06:18:03 MidJag: Hahaha, you got a call from the elevator? Or you ended up calling the elevator?
06:18:09 Devastator: I was calling, yes.
06:19:13 MidJag: What was the small shot CEO like?
06:19:17 Devastator: CEO guy was impressed, because apparently I wasn't supposed to get past his secretary. We weren't supposed to call people at offices, but we didn't actually do the phoning, and we also weren't supposed to hang up.
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06:20:39 Devastator: so I got past the guy's secretary, probably because the call we were doing was something normal, so it was a simple introduction. I think the guy was interested in hiring me just because I got past his secretary, but didn't understand I didn't do anything.
06:20:44 Devastator: was also several thousand miles away.
06:20:54 Devastator: ..and I don't want to do a job on the phone again.
06:21:51 Devastator: also, the guy came across as the bad boss type.
06:22:02 Devastator: do you want to work for someone who is proud of how hard he is to reach?
06:22:26 Devastator: "Look, I pay someone because I'm too important to take calls!"
06:23:09 Devastator: No, the guy wasn't that important. Guys too important to take calls you can't get at any time.
06:23:41 Devastator: I don't know. Guy sounded like he had all day to chat on the phone with me, while being proud of being hard to reach.
06:24:07 Devastator: so I figured he owns some small-medium business, like a car lot or osmething.
06:25:38 Devastator: maybe I misread it and the guy was like a fortune 500 CEO or something.
06:25:59 MJ: I dunno, I’m still unconvinced CEOs actualy do anything so who knows ~
06:26:07 Devastator: Some do, some don't.
06:26:17 Devastator: TBH, at that time the economy was wretched up here.
06:26:41 Devastator: I wouldn't have minded ditching the job for a week or two to fly down and have some kinda face-to-face with someone that rich, if it was real.
06:27:21 Devastator: It would have been a weird impression.
06:27:36 MJ: It would have been distinctive.
06:28:43 Devastator: Yes, I mean.. even then, I knew people tended to remember me.
06:30:25 Devastator: and the guy asked repeatedly where I was from, and then said, 'no, you're not from there.'
06:30:36 Devastator: which is hilarious, really.
06:30:44 Devastator: you've heard my voice.
06:30:49 Devastator: nobody can tell my accent.
06:31:05 Devastator: 'no, you're not from there'
06:31:08 Devastator: which is just hilarious.
06:31:29 Devastator: we were allowed to give fake info, for the record.
06:32:03 Devastator: A few people would have the stuff they made up on like cards.
06:33:10 MJ: Also how did you get past the secretary?
06:33:58 Devastator: I think that one was credit cards.
06:34:10 Devastator: The script for that one was like a human being.
06:34:19 Devastator: Give your name and ask for the full name of the person in question.
06:34:28 Devastator: ..which is what you say to a secretary.
06:35:11 MJ: Right. And they didn’t ask what you needed the CEO for or anything?
06:36:36 MJ: And that was a. Fascinating transcript.
06:37:32 Devastator: I don't exactly remember.
06:37:36 Devastator: there might have been one question.
06:38:14 MJ: Maybe she was just enamored with your unplacable accent?~
06:38:44 Devastator: I have no idea. I mean, I don't sound Indian.
06:38:51 Devastator: like most of the phone banks were then.
06:39:14 Devastator: and I have an accent, but I'm undeniably a native speaker.
06:40:51 Devastator: I don't remember exactly.
06:40:58 Devastator: maybe 'what's this about' or something.
06:41:15 Devastator: it was quite a long time ago, and I've been more than happy to forget about 95% of that job.
06:41:44 MJ: Yeah, ive heard telecom jobs are pretty terrible.
06:43:16 Devastator: I wish it were telecoms.
06:43:24 Devastator: on telecoms most people at least want to talk to you.
06:47:07 Devastator: I do know that when I got to the hole music I was like 'whoops, this is an office'
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