03:26:19 ER: interesting fight in awful hospital
04:14:06 Devastator: match the forms, eh?
04:17:18 Devastator: which one looks punchable.
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05:42:03 Devastator: just a minute, finishing up the Extinction update.
05:52:35 Devastator: Bank heist in Extinction.
05:53:57 Devastator: yeah, but it's delaying the clusterfuck that is Tulia. ;-p
05:54:03 Devastator: anyway, how are you doing?
05:54:16 Midjag: not bad, just really busy.
05:54:26 Midjag: Gotta write a lot more secondaries.
05:55:06 Devastator: got time for one ep?
05:56:10 Midjag: I should go to bed honestlly
05:57:27 Devastator: got the sequel to that bad luck book.
05:57:38 Devastator: bad luck continues.
05:57:49 Devastator: It's not bad, but the author is overwriting things a bit.
05:58:02 Devastator: not every minute has to be some weird thing going on.
05:58:17 Devastator: First one all the encounters seem smooth and natural.
05:58:21 Midjag: I dunno, that's how my life feels sometimes~
05:58:36 Devastator: this one it feels like things are being pushed too far.
05:58:59 Devastator: It's not bad, but the first one had a better pacing.
05:59:22 Devastator: this one it jumps the narrative around a lot more and tries to make every single person be super-special-awesome.
05:59:33 Devastator: It's fine to have ordinary people in a novel.
06:00:13 Devastator: No, you don't need to have your desert bandits be named "Slaughterhouse Clowns"
06:00:26 Devastator: No, you don't need to double up on the horrible torture scenes.
06:00:27 Midjag: No you definetlly need to name them that~
06:01:04 Devastator: The first book also has some desert bandits.
06:01:24 Devastator: they're also, far and away, the most frightening threat of everything in the first book.
06:01:48 Devastator: There's three of them, compared to four friendlies.
06:02:24 Devastator: What they have is dark goggles, and they stay far enough away so that the targets go sun blind.
06:02:48 Devastator: It's immensely frightening, because there is absolutely no solution to it other than the brilliant move which saves them.
06:03:03 Devastator: and all the bandits have to do is.. be patient.
06:03:10 Midjag: dark goggles and sun blind?
06:03:16 Devastator: the bandits have goggles.
06:03:24 Devastator: the protagonist's party doesn't.
06:03:32 Devastator: and they're in the middle of a salt desert.
06:03:50 Devastator: the wind, the brightness, and the salt..
06:04:17 Midjag: Yes, salt desert would be a problem
06:04:20 Devastator: and how the hell do you fight off sighted bandits when you're blind?
06:04:54 Devastator: really, it's far and away the most intimidating thing they encounter, and it's three ordinary people.
06:05:24 Devastator: second one is heavily luck-based so far.
06:05:36 Devastator: in the first one I think they get lucky once.
06:05:45 Devastator: every other time they're saved due to skills or planning.
06:06:14 Devastator: thinking about it, you could count it as being about 3-3 for luck vs skill.
06:07:49 Devastator: mmm, 3-4. One more skill I didn't count.
06:08:17 Devastator: This one, so far, is more like 4-1.
06:09:53 Devastator: There's also a couple more unnecessary sideplots, and they're trying to explain one of the coolest bits of the first book, making it less cool.
06:10:00 Devastator: so less good, but still not bad.
06:10:09 Devastator: and there's a long way to go, so it might turn around.
06:10:11 Midjag: Ah, so kinda the classic sequel overcompensation
06:10:26 Devastator: I hope this guy writes a couple more novels.
06:10:31 Devastator: just needs to dial it down.
06:10:46 Midjag: I've typically foudn the third one tends to better in that case as they kinda get the feel down.
06:11:04 Devastator: I remember when I read Guy Gavriel Kay's first couple novels.
06:11:08 Devastator: They're utter shite.
06:11:18 Devastator: like, really, really bad.
06:11:23 Devastator: later ones were much better.
06:11:48 Midjag: mmm, I did once read an entire series start to finish in the vain hope the sequels would get better
06:12:23 Midjag: Was it a mistake? Yes, do I regret it? Not really, there were good ideas just trapped under a terrible YA genre persona.
06:12:32 Midjag: And no. No they did not
06:12:44 Devastator: some people seem to have potential but never end up writing their best novel.
06:13:18 Midjag: Like goddamnit she gave the witches retractable iron teeth and fingernails and they ride fucking dragons. How do you fuck up a book with that kind of shit?
06:13:39 Devastator: make the dragons psychic?
06:13:48 Midjag: Yeah, that's pretty much what happened, lot of potential, just never came together.
06:14:15 Devastator: that might be similar to this one.
06:14:31 Devastator: reads like the author had 18 cool ideas for scenes, and just slotted them in one at a time.
06:14:56 Devastator: when what should have been done was taking four or so of them and filing in the between parts with mundane stuff.
06:15:00 Midjag: Though it was better then a differnt book I read, were the main charecter was so boring I found myself pineing for him to cut to literally any other charecter.
06:15:09 Devastator: Ooh, that's a bad sign.
06:15:23 Midjag: I would have watched the fucking janitor sweep up the aftermatho of the battle then read that fucking charecters thughts.
06:15:37 Devastator: I think the worst novel I ever read was when I started rooting for the villain about a third of the way through.
06:15:51 Devastator: to the point where I didn't realize the mary sue hero was not the real villain.
06:16:00 Devastator: I don't want to put it in the logs.
06:16:52 Midjag: The worst book I've read was that one I was complainign about, it's like every bad YA stereotype known to man kind and what's worse is that there are so many cool things in the book series.
06:19:48 Midjag: Called Truthwitch. Worse book I've ever read, just god.
06:20:04 Devastator: I think the title would have been sufficient warning.
06:20:07 Midjag: I got that book for free at a library giveaway and still feel like it was a waste of money
06:20:13 Devastator: (says the guy who named a game Extinction.)
06:20:26 Devastator: anyway, I should go bath. Been hot this week.
06:20:36 Devastator: thanks for stopping by and exchanging book horror stories.
06:21:23 Midjag: No problem, any chance I get to warn people about truthwitch I will take.
06:21:28 Midjag: Also just one more thing
06:22:05 Midjag: That book was so boring, it had a literal bloodblender who actually uses his powers in a creative way...and it's still one of my least favorite books
06:22:46 Midjag: He was suppose to be like the pretty boy anti hero, and it's just so...god
06:24:00 Devastator: Pretty boy anti hero is hard to do and make entertaining.
06:24:09 Midjag: But his power is so fucking cool
06:25:13 Midjag: It's also just like the protagonist has a lame power, but everyone treats it like the best possible power in the world.
06:25:24 Midjag: Literally they have a war, over her, for her power.
06:26:19 Midjag: She can tell wether or not someone is telling the truth...with possibly the longest list of exceptions to that rule I've ever seen in a power.
06:26:25 Devastator is again reminded of extinction
06:26:36 Devastator: of course, in my case it's "There's one dragon."
06:26:39 Midjag: Like she can't tell objective truth.
06:26:53 Devastator: that would be really, really useful.
06:26:59 Midjag: She can just tell wether or not someone thinks they're telling the truth.
06:27:03 Devastator: like war worthy useful.
06:27:35 Midjag: nd you can lie outright if your kinda drunk
06:27:56 Midjag: There is a guy who lies to her face the entire novel because he has a power that specalizes in lies.
06:28:08 Devastator: that's a bad twist.
06:28:39 Midjag: She is introduced, loseing a card game
06:28:58 Midjag: and I'm just like...how
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22:18:46 Devastator: ugh, introducing the exception before the rule again, heh?
22:18:59 Devastator: and if you want the main character to lose a card game, just have bad luck.
22:19:30 Devastator: especially with the common current Texas Hold-Em varient.
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