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03:11:42 Devastator: yeah, not much to do unless you want more liongame. Sorry
ER.
03:12:01 Devastator: I could turn the MC into a liongirl instead of a lion, but the game wouldn't work right that way.
03:13:02 Devastator: also mmm, milkshake.
04:01:35 Devastator: got a 1-1 tie if you care to break it,
ER.
04:28:01 Devastator: Huh, didn't know Solid Snake's name was David.
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04:40:35 Devastator: apparently
ER can't message here due to being disconnected.
04:41:12 ER: let me iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin- nevermind
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04:44:54 Devastator: so.. what's up
syv?
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04:46:33 syv: Anyone can screw with topic now.
04:46:51 Devastator: updated extinction.
04:46:55 Devastator: puzzle still puzzling,
syv?
04:47:07 syv: Darkmyst's in-irc help is pretty poor, but apparently Freenode is what it runs, and has online docs.
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04:49:21 syv: I actually do kinda want that up, thinking about it.
04:49:31 syv: Because I want you to update LACE.
04:50:23 syv:
Devastator, I think the problem with communicating the puzzle is mostly information density. Several new elements per update, almost all of which need attention.
04:50:37 syv: And which can be missed if not noted right then.
04:52:37 syv: ...Can Trence eat rotten food?
04:55:40 syv: "..In addition, you went up the stairs with the elevator on your right. You then turned around 180 degrees as the staircase turned back on itself, and came out with the elevator still on your right."
04:55:48 syv: That needs a LOT more words, what?
04:55:53 syv: Was the whole place mirrored?
04:56:41 syv: That's a really confusing way to put that.
04:57:15 syv: "You went through the north wall, did a 180, and walked out of the south wall, facing north."
05:03:00 ER: how are the lemmings doing?
05:05:00 syv:
Devastator, is the Fancy Door in the East Hallway marked with a number?
05:05:14 syv:
ER, they're safe but tried something dumb.
05:06:39 Devastator: I'll edit that staircase description.
05:06:44 Devastator: also, ask that last one in thread.
05:07:46 syv: I'll add to my post that you said it's #7.
05:07:53 syv: I'm updating the puzzle info spoiler.
05:08:01 Devastator: edited it a little, because you're indoors and the odd geometry means you don't know that it's north or south after coming out of the upper stairs.
05:08:06 Devastator: You can assume as much.
05:08:20 Devastator: but you can't outright tell when you're indoors and something turned you around.
05:08:36 Devastator: It's a fine assumption for puzzle-related purposes, though.
05:10:33 syv: What makes it particularly confusing is that "still on your right" sounds to me like "spatially in the same position relative to you as when you entered the staircase"
05:11:40 Devastator: That's the confusing bit.
05:11:50 Devastator: it is in the same position relative to you when you entered the staircase.
05:11:56 Devastator: it's just that shouldn't be the case.
05:12:42 Devastator: It should be on the other side.
05:12:48 syv: So the elevator is also in the main room on floor 2?
05:13:03 Devastator: there's an elevator door on the main room of floor 2.
05:13:47 Devastator: and picturing this puzzle is going to be a pain.
05:16:00 Devastator: It is. I can probably work with whatever you guys make, but I have three sheets of paper for this puzzle, so..
05:16:22 Devastator: although I can give you an overall layout recap after you guys go down the last hallway.
05:32:47 ER: yesh, I would like to play or gm a tiny game
05:51:30 ER: I guess I could work out an OP for that inheritance game and deal with whatever consequences that has
05:52:03 ER: actually my indecision makes a lot of sense considering that I have no idea what I want or why
05:55:41 syv: wolf girl game goal is eat game
05:57:13 syv: "I want to cuddle, but my flesh has an unquenchable desire to consume anyone I touch. :<"
05:57:20 Devastator: ..alida would very much like to kill and eat a deer.
05:57:36 syv: It's like the most adorable version of "I have no mouth and I must scream"
05:58:15 syv: What % wolf is this wolfgirl,
ER?
05:59:32 syv: ...Did you roll for it or is that a calculation based upon something?
06:00:58 syv: I guess that's probably ears + tail + mouth + eyes + arms + maybe legs...?
06:01:24 syv: Going in order from traits that get made animalistic.
06:02:20 syv: Forearms -> shins -> thighs -> upper arms -> head -> torso
06:09:38 syv: And after those you go to horizontal, then paw hands.
06:10:08 syv: Then no head hair, I guess.
06:10:33 syv: I'm surprised I wasn't ever really bugged by the headhair in Wolf Children.
06:13:34 ER: it's all just fur in the end, right?~
06:16:55 syv: I think you're coming up with a game about a 39% wolf girl trying to eat game.
06:17:14 Devastator: Yuki was too cute to notice that,
syv. ;-p
06:18:01 ER: where's the pointless brutality in that?
06:21:12 syv: Well, maybe she already has food at home.
06:22:56 syv: Apparently human head hair has a maximum length.
06:23:28 syv: So my hair growing to waist length is fairly unusual just in terms of it being possible.
06:24:43 ER: you'd think that it just falling out or breaking over time would be enough to regulate it and keep it from tripping you up
06:27:00 syv: What utility does waist-length hair serve?
06:27:08 syv: And if it has utility, why isn't it always possible?
06:30:55 Devastator: I thought the limit was based on it falling out or breaking over time.
06:34:56 syv: Apparently not, works the same as fur and body hair, just has a "grow" period of _years_
06:42:26 Devastator: I don't shave my head, but my hair hasn't stopped yet.
06:43:17 syv: Do you know how fur works?
06:44:16 syv: Hair cells are programmed to grow for a period, then sit without growing for a period.
06:45:02 syv: Human head hairs have a really really long grow period, while fur and human body hair has a really short grow period
06:47:53 ER: a few of my body hairs are different from the rest
06:48:09 ER: just single hairs getting really long
06:49:24 Devastator: come to think of it, I have a few hairs in my mustache that are the same way.
06:52:31 Devastator: that also implies if you waited years with really long hair, they'd start up again eventually.
06:56:07 ER: I think that they grow, then stop, then die
07:01:59 syv: Grow, stop, die, drop, grow.
07:02:06 syv: It's why cats constantly shed fur
07:02:14 syv: And if you shave them fur immediately regrows
07:02:32 syv: Some stuff is always growing, some stuff is always paused.
07:02:52 ER: and that's why if I shave all my beard off it's back in a day!
07:03:51 Devastator: I'm not waxing a cat.
07:04:37 Devastator: Badly, I'm guessing.
07:05:06 syv: I mean, I've shaved a cat, sorta.
07:05:32 syv: Doppler once got some kinda filthy oil mess in his tail, so I shaved it from the base to about two inches from the tip.
07:05:46 syv: He went around for like a month with a lion tail.
07:06:03 syv: Waxing would hurt though, so... yeah.
07:06:16 Devastator: Man, I wish I had a beard like that, though. My face is horribly ugly when clean shaven, but it takes forever for my beard to grow out.
07:06:28 Devastator: looks good when it does, mostly because it's a nice red colour.
07:07:20 syv: Not surprising since
ER's my clone, but my beard also grows back pretty quick. So I don't shave, just trim. Too much work.
07:07:50 Devastator: I do remember watching a hockey game where one of the players who is perpetually shadowed was clean shaven to start the game off.
07:08:00 Devastator: by the third period he had a five o' clock shadow again.
07:08:49 syv: That is damn impressive,
Dev.
07:08:59 ER: so are you a readhead,
Dev? :D
07:15:24 Devastator: was the cat okay with being shaved?
07:16:01 Devastator: I mean, once shaved I can't see a cat expressing even the slightest indication of being less than perfect.
07:16:11 Devastator: because that's how most cats work.
07:17:40 syv: He was totally fine, yeah.
07:17:52 syv: Hell, purred even during. Doppler loves people.
07:18:03 syv: Like, LOVES LOVES LOVES people.
07:18:20 syv: He's also a cat that will chase down and attack coyotes...
07:19:11 ER: or well, a dog reincarnated into a cat maybe
07:20:11 Devastator: I bet my big fat one would have been fine.
07:20:39 Devastator: never got shaved, but I can remember precisely two occasions during his entire life where he expressed the slightest discomfort.
07:21:06 Devastator: one after he got stepped on, while sleeping on the top step of the outside staircase
07:21:19 Devastator: and once where he didn't get fed for a day.
07:21:57 Devastator: other than that he basically purred continually.
07:22:11 Devastator: going to the vet? purr.
07:22:19 Devastator: being placed on the cold countertop? purr.
07:25:11 Devastator: was also really really fat.
07:25:28 Devastator: and silly good at hunting despite it.
07:31:29 Devastator: He just sat in one place until something showed up to be caught.
07:34:54 ER: tasty things come to the patient
07:42:07 Devastator: I do know you can set up multiple traps, where the mice literally have to crawl over the dead bodies of other mice, and they go for it.
07:52:43 ER: do you think that rats are better at crawling over rat corpses than corpses of other species
07:53:26 Devastator: that sounds like it'd take a weird experiment.
08:13:12 syv: They don't like crawling over alligator corpses, I bet.
08:14:15 syv: We should pitch this experiment to
MJ, he does scientific research.
08:15:02 ER: ah yes, forcing rats to crawl over various corpses
08:15:11 ER: so that we can learn ??????
08:18:22 syv: There is no pursuit more respectable than expanding mankind's body of knowledge.
08:19:29 Devastator: and cooking grilled cheese sandwiches.
08:21:08 ER: so do you two want to play a wolfgirl game for the heck of it right now
08:23:28 Devastator: I'm not wrong, am I?
08:23:44 Devastator: and grilled cheese is HARD
08:23:53 ER: grilled cheese are improved by adding tomato sauce
08:23:55 syv: Some kind of eldritch horror seems to agree with you, so...
08:23:57 Devastator: you need ground wheat and yeast to make bread.
08:24:12 Devastator: You need tame bacteria and domesticated farm animals to make cheese.
08:24:36 Devastator: And you need very controlled fire.
08:24:51 ER: technically domesticating a different animal to make milk for you isn't *necessary* if you're a mammal
08:25:08 Devastator: I'm not sure if human milk makes good cheese.
08:25:22 Devastator: I'm sure someone, somewhere has done that, though.
08:26:34 ER: you wolfgirl. you're in your hut. There's nobody and nothing around. You just woke up and it's morning.
08:30:49 ER: your hut! you have a pretty good bed, it took a lot of work to make. You have lots of other things as well for hunting and crafting. And some meat hanging up to dry. It's nice and dark.
08:33:54 ER: You chomp your bed. It tastes kind of bad.
08:34:45 syv: >Growl at bed and command it to taste better
08:35:13 ER: the bed doesn't respond, as it never does when you yell at it
08:35:38 syv: >Bite it again to determine its compliance
08:36:27 Devastator: Lets just go outside.
08:36:37 ER: you don't feel like jepordising the structural stability of your more prised possession
08:36:45 Devastator: tools, maybe some trap stuff. And a knife, if we don't have claws.
08:39:02 ER: your hands are normal. by which you mean they're giant sharp talons.
08:41:25 Devastator: mmm, lets go for a hole then. Chase a deer into it.
08:42:03 ER: Shovel! You don't really like digging but this makes it easier.
08:43:32 Devastator: eh, only need a few feet to make a deer break its legs.
08:43:59 ER: you walk out of the hut. You're in the woods!
08:44:54 syv: Eh? Why would we DIG a hole?
08:45:13 Devastator: to make a hole that the deer doesn't know about, silly!
08:45:53 ER: You go on a walk to clear your mind. You don't smell any deer...
08:46:43 ER: The entrance is vertical. You can't see the bottom.
08:53:27 ER: You jump and slide down until your feet meet the bottom.
08:53:43 ER: It's bright above you. You can't see anything else!
08:54:49 Devastator: wait. Eyes will adjust.
08:59:43 ER: this is a cave. It smells like something you haven't smelled before.
08:59:58 ER: It's dry and you don't see any water
09:00:56 ER: you can see a way further into the cave but there's still not enough light to see past. there's a tiny passage up in the wall you could maybe crawl through?
09:01:25 Devastator: ears and smell should help.
09:04:22 ER: you clamber into the hole. You can't see anything! It smells very strongly of something you haven't smelled before.
09:05:35 Devastator: does it smell tasty?
09:05:37 ER: You hear yourself breathing.
09:08:21 ER: You keep going forwards. Suddenly your paw hits a smooth bit and before you know it you're sliding forwards...
09:09:10 syv: >Open mouth and prepare to bite
09:10:01 ER: you try to dig in, but it's hard stone and you can't get purchase
09:10:58 ER: you fall through the air. You open your mouth to bite, which hits the floor tearing some teeth from your head
09:11:46 syv: >Curse out the floor, the bastard
09:12:56 ER: You scream. The smooth floor echos your frustraction.
09:14:00 Devastator: wield our rage and claw it.
09:15:03 ER: You stand and walk to the smell. Once you're close, you reach out a hand to feel it.
09:15:32 ER: It is... soft and wet and squishes under your hand.
09:17:36 ER: You lean close and take a chomp out of the thing. It breaks under your fangs, and... the entire front of your face is *burning*, worse than fire, and it's even worse in your mouth!
09:18:19 ER: The thing, whatever it is, stirs with some soft squishing sounds.
09:18:30 Devastator: you bit a slime because you are dumb,
syv.
09:18:54 Devastator: claws. You kill it first, then find the tasty bits, and then eat those.
09:20:07 Devastator: the awful stuff in our mouth.
09:20:22 Devastator: and then we try and claw it to death before our face melts off.
09:21:57 ER: You sputter and gag, but the stuff remains stuck to the inside of your mouth! You try to swipe at it but can't keep your balance with the pain and stumble.
09:22:18 ER: The thing makes a strange noise. Is it... laughing?
09:23:53 Devastator: integrate our rage into enough adrenaline to block the pain. ;-p
09:24:43 Devastator: but yes, try to regain our balance while listening.
09:27:47 ER: You lose your balance and fall. The thing murmours meaninglessly at you. This chamber sounds like it's fairly large?
09:29:24 Devastator: try to regain our balance while listening.
09:32:30 ER: You try to stand when something cracks you in the head sending you back to the floor. The thing makes another sound... quizzically?
09:33:16 Devastator: play dead until we can move.
09:41:11 ER: You stay still. your mouth is still burning. The thing blurbles some more at you, then silence. You can still smell it, though.
09:41:43 Devastator: fix its location, and this time we claw it to shreds.
09:42:25 Devastator: (I'll go with whatever
syv says, since I don't like these orders)
09:42:33 Devastator: (So do this, unless
syv says something.)
09:45:20 syv: Crawl back the way we came. Poke our burned face. Blood?
09:49:50 ER: You slowly puch yourself away from the thing. It laughs again but doesn't move. You feel your face. The places that were burned feel... rough, but there's not blood.
09:50:18 ER: Though you can taste blood in your mouth from where you lose some teeth.
09:51:31 syv: Growl at it and say "fuck you, I'll be back"
09:51:59 ER: You don't know where the exit is! You fell here.
09:52:51 Devastator: and we can make vows of revenge when our target can't hear us.
09:54:58 syv: What's the point of that?!
09:55:11 syv: It must know of our power and danger!
09:56:38 Devastator: I mean, emotions do matter to some degree.
09:57:50 Devastator: sure, sure, do it then.
09:59:53 ER: You snarl at the thing and vow vengeance on it and its floor.
10:00:24 ER: You know there's a way out of here and it's up, so all you have to do is climb a cave wall in pitch darkness.
10:00:52 Devastator: Yeah, I mean.. you don't need to see to climb stuff normally.
10:01:16 ER: You walk away from the thing until you reach a wall. It is smooth.
10:01:40 ER: You can... get a little purchase on it with your claws?
10:04:58 syv: Egan doesn't know how to climb things
10:05:25 syv: Which is hilarious, considering he's on a mountain and I'm not
10:05:51 ER: it's not a very climbing mountain
10:06:06 Devastator: It shouldn't be too hard, really.
10:06:11 ER: except for the parts which were specifically blasted away, there's not really cliffs
10:06:19 Devastator: it's easier to go forward instead of back.
10:06:28 Devastator: and you don't need nearly as much purchase as one might think.
10:23:49 Devastator: Jams would do them in.
10:24:12 Devastator: I doubt those shotties can stand up to 50,000 rounds each.
10:24:20 syv: Many, many, many things would do them in.
10:25:03 syv: Though, uh, where do you get 50,000?
10:27:41 Devastator: 2000 shotguns and a million spartans.
10:28:22 syv: Rare for someone to overestimate how much a million is. ;P
10:29:07 syv: Still, the video is amusing.
10:29:30 syv: Reminds me of childhood antics in RTS sandboxes, but done better than smol
syv ever could
10:29:37 Devastator: well, better engine.
10:30:04 syv: Probably a monster computer, too.
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