ERLOG 2021-05-02

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03:28:00 er: Bah
03:28:44 er: That was definately a dream *about* getting sleep paralysis
03:33:24 Devastator: ouch.
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06:06:34 Devastator: heya
06:08:28 Devastator: updated. I'm fine with the alternate ending, but it does seem out of character at this point. Want to keep the game moving.
06:09:21 syv: heya
06:09:26 syv: Yeah, that's fair.
06:09:38 syv: All your players are waffling, so you get the vote.
06:10:02 syv: "Remember the plan"
06:10:08 syv: I don't remember the plan. >.<
06:11:13 Devastator: ;-p
06:11:17 Devastator: (that was kinda intentional)
06:12:53 syv: I looked it up.
06:16:33 Devastator: also NJW had combat orders, but said "Syv will tell me why they suck so much"
06:16:39 Devastator: so I didn't go with them automatically.
06:16:43 syv: Awww
06:16:45 Devastator: ;-p
06:17:02 syv: Maybe I should tone it down a bit.
06:17:25 Devastator: nah, not like that.
06:17:34 Devastator: more like "I'm sure syv will have better ones."
06:20:17 syv: Posted.
06:20:58 syv: Eh, even then it's nice for other people to get a chance to play without having it rubbed in that they're not powergamers.
06:22:49 syv: But yeah, still gonna be serious for this fight. It matters ;p
06:23:35 Devastator: Yeah.
06:23:44 syv: ...Wonder if he has a taunt.
06:23:48 syv: That would be a problem.
06:26:03 Devastator: taunts don't exist.
06:26:09 Devastator: He does have some stuff, otoh.
06:26:30 Devastator: that shield's a proper artifact, so it's got stuff.
06:26:40 Devastator: like Carina had a pile of contigencies on that cloak.
06:26:54 Devastator: like Dorren could copy a cast spell.
06:27:03 Devastator: like Spar has a sword that just kills stuff.
06:27:06 Devastator: well, no.
06:27:07 Devastator: not that good.
06:27:18 Devastator: mine you..
06:27:29 Devastator: he could have a taunt. An artifact can do stuff that's otherwise impossible.
06:27:36 Devastator: on the other hand, you have a living artifact.
06:28:24 Devastator: Masterwork Dwarven Triple Platemail, [+6] too, fwiw.
06:28:33 Devastator: (essentially just full dwarf fortress armour.)
06:28:46 syv: !
06:28:56 syv: It goes to +6?!
06:29:08 syv: Yeah, I was expecting stuff.
06:29:21 syv: But I just don't see much we could do about that.
06:29:47 syv: Hrm, we can also entangle him.
06:29:50 Devastator: it goes to +7.
06:29:56 syv: Damn.
06:30:04 Devastator: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=177035.msg8210970#msg8210970
06:30:08 Devastator: Carina had +6 stuff too.
06:31:37 syv: Frigging haste boots...
06:31:51 Devastator: Basically.. 2 levels is common, 3 levels is uncommon, 4 levels is rare. +1 if you're in a small city, +2 if you're in a large city. Stuff +5 and above needs ingredients in all circumstances. +6 is basically quest stuff only.
06:32:32 Devastator: +7 stuff is actually rarer than artifacts.
06:32:57 Devastator: artifacts just do broken stuff that isn't normally viable. +7 stuff is like the drop from world-famous creatures.
06:33:48 Devastator: Carina had three contigency spells from that cloak, but that was all it did without the clasp thingy.
06:34:08 Devastator: a normal special cloak has more normal stuff, although you can't buy one that duplicates hers.
06:42:25 Devastator: yes, haste boots.
06:42:27 Devastator: you should consider those.
06:42:46 Devastator: not cheap.
06:44:13 Devastator: I will tell you, Meteor Strike will remove the rangers from consideration.
06:44:34 Devastator: especially with the recall spell on their forces.
06:45:40 syv: That's why I put it first.
06:45:57 syv: If it kills, Trence automatically retargets to Arngrim.
06:47:06 Devastator: yup.
06:48:11 Devastator: the downside is that Willis can't go Willis on the big guy.
06:51:01 syv: My headcanon was gonna be that Willis interrupted the conversation by nuking the adds.
06:55:43 Devastator: adds would cly be Dorrens fight.
06:55:47 Devastator: that was a lot of summons.
06:57:11 syv: Maybe he learned~
06:57:18 syv: Nuke the adds, not the hero~
07:00:02 Devastator: Carina was the exact opposite.
07:01:11 Devastator: the issue there was -not- nuking the hero.
07:01:24 Devastator: god, the group bossfight will be an experience.
07:02:23 Devastator: all four of them, and without recall spells.
07:02:41 Devastator: mind you, that's like during the endboss sequence.
07:04:02 syv: Of course.
07:04:14 syv: And presumably we'll have four OP heroes as well.
07:04:20 syv: And counter plans.
07:04:45 syv: I assume we have _some_ way to counter the damn doomsword.
07:04:48 Devastator: yeah, you'll have your fourth before then.
07:04:57 Devastator: it might be the OTA style counter.
07:08:41 Devastator: where you have to shut it off manually.
07:12:12 Devastator: plus Trence will have more dragon forms.
07:25:00 Devastator: willis will probably learn another spell or two. ;-p
07:25:10 Devastator: and there will be chances to change and/or improve skills.
07:30:20 syv: He might also gain the ability to cast a spell twice!
07:30:38 syv: Imagine that
07:30:58 syv: ...Could we go into a fight with mooks on _our_ side?
07:32:52 Devastator: Certainly.
07:33:06 Devastator: it's currently tough due to everyone in the world wanting to murder dragonkid.
07:33:10 Devastator: but might well happen in Tulia.
07:33:20 syv: :)
07:33:20 Devastator: Also, shortly after 7:00
07:33:24 Devastator: http://youtu.be/uunbQ0SmneQ?t=421
07:33:40 Devastator: I also suspect being able to cast more than one spell an encounter is against Willis's religion. ;-p
07:35:02 Devastator: Pro caster there.
07:35:57 syv: Just him missing the gold?
07:36:02 Devastator: Yeah.
07:36:12 Devastator: "I don't know if you've realized this, but I'm an idiot."
08:11:30 Devastator: I'll be forever amused at Daut's nickname.
08:11:39 Devastator: they call him "The Lord" ;-p
08:20:53 syv: Why?
08:25:36 Devastator: I have absolutely no idea.
08:25:50 Devastator: what I do know about him is that he's been playing since the game was new, 20 years ago.
08:26:38 Devastator: welp, that was a satisfying OT-38 kill.
08:26:54 Devastator: someone was contemptuous of it and sat back to throw nades at me.
08:27:02 Devastator: eventually they realized I wasn't going to die.
08:44:37 Devastator: well, enough tonight.
08:44:41 Devastator: god, there's a lot of cheaters on.
08:47:43 syv: Oh well
08:47:53 syv: So it goes
08:48:07 Devastator: won one where I had to kill two of them, but lost the next two to people cheating very hard.
08:48:19 Devastator: they added autopunch and no smokes to them now.
08:48:43 syv: "No smokes"?
08:48:50 Devastator: they ignore the presence of smokes.
08:48:55 Devastator: some of the other ones couldn't see through them.
08:49:13 syv: When they're inside, or just being able to see through?
08:49:18 Devastator: see through.
08:49:40 Devastator: second to last one was painful because I realized the guy was cheating and wouldn't have been able to win, but could have drawn fire and done real damage.
08:50:13 Devastator: like, hide behind a rock, move out, autoaim shoots for two misses, I then hit the not-dodging cheater with a mosin and duck back in.
08:50:32 Devastator: second time would have been with a mac-10, and I'd have then died (due to cheater having full armour), but it'd have been memorable.
08:51:24 Devastator: realized the fuckwit was cheating but didn't make the right moves in time. Most of the worse cheater kills I don't realize the player is cheating.
08:51:36 Devastator: until I'm shot three times or something.
08:52:18 Devastator: last cheater had a deagle in a bank and I gave pretty good but didn't finish the job.
08:52:42 Devastator: was close, but there were two people engaging the cheater, so the insta-aim changes kinda made it obvious.
08:53:52 syv: Wonder if it'd be possible to make client-side cheat detectors.
08:54:52 Devastator: not my field.
08:55:28 Devastator: the two cheaters I did beat were pretty standard. One guy was a really shitty player and couldn't handle the bounces, and the other one I had the drop on.
08:55:34 Devastator: still matters, even when they're cheating.
08:56:05 syv: I just wonder when they're gonna have automatic 16x scopes.
08:56:08 Devastator: drop guy, threw a mine over his head, and then shot him for about sixty damage.
08:56:26 Devastator: I know some of them seem to ahve enemy-hunting abilities.
08:56:33 Devastator: then the cheater retreated onto the mine.
09:07:47 Devastator: It's probably comparable to CS, really.
09:08:38 Devastator: one of the best players in the world (someone much better than me) can sometimes win against any rando cheating full-on.
09:16:39 syv: Mmm.
09:16:45 syv: I hope the game survives.
09:18:09 Devastator: eh, it's dying slowly. I like it, but these don't generally last even this long.
09:46:08 syv: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S94rsRJ6pI8
09:55:41 Devastator: heh
09:55:44 Devastator: yes, seen that one.
09:56:01 Devastator: Low ELO Legends is a far better series than I expected.
09:56:04 syv: Haven't finished it yet.
09:56:09 syv: It makes sense!
09:56:21 syv: Basically by definition matches will be terrible strategies that work.
09:56:59 Devastator: Yeah, he picks out the good matches in there.
10:10:29 syv: One of the most amazing things about this is that there's a huge number of viewers, watching some kf the most awful players in the game.
10:10:37 syv: Phenomenal caster.
10:12:45 Devastator: Yes, but some of it is match choice.
10:12:56 Devastator: the players are awful, but they're well matched and it's an interesting game.
10:13:18 Devastator: Also, Lord Daut's face is on the monestary skins in the mod T-90 uses.
10:15:12 Devastator: T90 is a great caster, though.
10:26:30 syv: He's saying it was a live match, which was just the lowest ELO at the time, and that he does low ELO casts on Tuesdays.
10:26:42 syv: It doesn't sound like there was any choice, beyond putting it on YT
10:27:11 syv: "Stoppable force meets movable object"
10:35:12 Devastator: huh.
10:35:21 Devastator: but yeah, he does choose which ones to put on youtube.
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