03:56:37 Devastator: Looks like Lord Daut has been identified in that AoE II tournament.
03:56:49 Devastator: (very popular, but ancient player)
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syv) Dunno how Cata treats them, though. I'd bet on it making the 500 better.
04:02:13 syv: Accidentally sent that to nickserv. :P
04:17:12 syv: Looking at the chezzo, it seems reasonable actually. Similar weight, damage, recoil, accuracy, etc. M1014 has like twice the volume, for some reason, but I guess that's to balance it being semiauto.
04:17:42 syv: Apparently the Cobray Streetsweeper is in the game. Hilariously, it has the NEVER_JAMS flag.
04:25:54 Devastator: Stat-wise it looks slightly better for the M1014, but they're basically comparable.
04:26:34 Devastator: it had the mossberg 500 doing slight bonus damage per hit and being marginally more accurate, but it has worse recoil and can fit fewer rounds.
04:28:09 Devastator: so it's much more possible to unload the M1014, but if you're hunting, the 500 would be better for that.
04:28:30 syv: Do you have the field 500?
04:28:44 Devastator: Yes, it's the field 500
04:29:04 syv: And yeah, that's really pretty accurate.
04:29:20 syv: The big thing is that the M1014 is semiauto, vs the 500 being pump action.
04:29:40 syv: I forget how Cata handles that, but that means you have a LOT more dakka for, like, a tank or something.
04:30:22 Devastator: aiming modes are the same time, but it probably includes a pump.
04:30:41 syv: Oddly there doesn't seem to be a shortie 500, which would be more competitive. Something to jam in your backpack and pull out for an emergency.
04:30:55 Devastator: I think it's got big pistols for that.
04:31:01 Devastator: they go in holsters.
04:31:22 Devastator: I will admit, having a holster and a knife sheath have been very very useful for me.
04:31:30 Devastator: each one has made a bad situation much better.
04:31:54 Devastator: also, killed a second soldier zombie for the M1014. That one also had a knife sheathe with a combat knife.
04:32:27 Devastator: so bam, one sheath with a combat knife, and one holster with a glock.
04:32:49 Devastator: I have (or can make) carrying straps for long guns, but since I have no long gun with a supply of ammo, not doing that atm.
04:33:15 Devastator: I have a SCAR-H, but one shot for it.
04:34:21 Devastator: I have two .556 rifles, but a combined three rounds.
04:35:25 Devastator: a M27 IAR that came from the first soldier.. with a 30 round empty mag, and a Ruger mini-14 that came in my starting bunker, which had 8 rounds for it originally.
04:37:03 syv: I dislike the HK416, and the M27 is an HK416 but the marines made it stupider.
04:37:06 Devastator: I have TWO sig P320s I'd love to swap for the glock, but, again, 15 rounds for them.
04:37:31 Devastator: It'd be nice, though, as it'd mean I would have one pistol and a spare mag.
04:38:02 syv: Do you have any bullet stockpiles for a gun you *don't* have?
04:38:22 Devastator: I have another glock in .40, but no ammo, and some .357 magnum. The only gun I have with spare ammo are the shotguns, as I found a box of 00 shot and another box of slugs.
04:39:16 Devastator: I have 200 rounds of .22 CB, and another 20 rounds of 22LR
04:39:19 syv: The shotguns kinda suck as primaries, but they're very useful still.
04:39:35 Devastator: I have 50 rounds of .357 Magnum, and I'd love to have a gun for it.
04:39:52 Devastator: I have 50 rounds of .380 ACP.
04:40:16 Devastator: and 40 rounds of .38 FMJ.
04:40:38 syv: Okay, I wasn't sure what that was, so I googled it. 22 cb is little more than high power BBs.
04:40:53 Devastator: It'd be lovely for training.
04:41:03 Devastator: but no rifle for it.
04:41:10 Devastator: Nah, in this game it'd work fine for training.
04:41:18 syv: Yes, it'd be fine for training.
04:41:35 syv: Fucking *airsoft* works for training.
04:41:48 Devastator: I have 25 rounds of 7.62x25
04:45:24 Devastator: I also have 2 rounds of 7.62x51 M80, and no idea where they came from.
04:45:48 Devastator: Oh, also, I've found two vehicles with mounted miniguns, and could take them apart.
04:47:30 syv: I wonder if you can still build an NX-17 Charge Rifle after sitting in your base for a few days, disassembling and reassembling electronics.
04:47:54 syv: That was by far the most overpowered gun I ever had. They probably fixed the assault rifle conversion.
04:49:03 syv: The assault rifle conversion made any gun full auto, but lowered damage/acc/etc. That was a single shot gun, that you could charge up to rocket launcher level over ten turns, or rifle level in like three or four.
04:49:21 syv: But if you burst fired it, it'd magically fire the full burst at the same power level.
04:49:44 syv: So it was a full auto rocket launcher that consumed a little more power than an mp3 player...
04:51:36 Devastator: yeah, there are various broken guns.
04:51:49 Devastator: don't know about that, never had an electronic rifle like that.
04:52:20 syv: Used to be a thing you could learn to build with a high enough electronics score.
04:52:55 syv: And was mostly cheap materials, IIRC? I could get it relatively easily by collecting a ton of household electronics.
04:59:35 syv: Assault rifle conversions were ridiculously rare, though.
04:59:58 syv: I only actually ever got the one legitimately, in a bunker, and played around applying it to several guns before trying the charge rifle.
05:00:10 syv: After that char I'd just cheat it in for fun.
05:00:16 Devastator: I have seen one of those, actually.
05:00:22 Devastator: the assault rifle conversion.
05:00:26 Devastator: but never made energy weapons.
05:00:39 syv: It's nice, if you have the ammo for it.
05:04:50 syv: Searching the chezzo, seems it was removed. Just caliber conversions, now.
05:05:20 syv: Which is reasonable. That was back in the days when mods would just add + to the end of a gun's name, and I think you could mix any four.
05:05:33 syv: Now there's apparently specific mods for every single gun part?
05:06:48 syv: "DO NOT CONNECT IMPROPERLY. CHARGE OR DISPOSE OF IN FIRE. BATTERY MAY EXPLODE OR LEAK."
05:07:05 syv: I assume those are meant to be commas, but it's really not apparent.
05:09:31 Devastator: anyway, current goal is to grind for mechanics 4, which I need to build a vehicle.
05:09:41 Devastator: need that to install an alternator and any engine worth using.
05:09:56 Devastator: ..also, should probably build an anvil.
05:10:03 syv: I forget how to grind mechanics.
05:10:09 Devastator: you cut stuff off cars.
05:10:22 Devastator: I'm at about 3.5, so..
05:10:35 Devastator: also, I forgot to make breakfast, so I need a break to cook up something.
05:17:12 Devastator: also also, gunsmith repair kits are AMAZING.
05:17:15 Devastator: they have all the tools.
05:18:12 Devastator: yeah, but they're also tiny space-wise.
05:18:21 Devastator: all you need is a gunsmith repair kit and an exacto knife.
05:18:25 Devastator: and a butchering tool.
05:21:25 Devastator: like they're the size of two hacksaws.
05:33:24 Devastator: finished the anvil.
05:33:32 Devastator: only up to fabrication 5.17
05:34:44 Devastator: still enough to make a real mace.
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05:37:10 Devastator: should make a die set too, seems that's doable.
05:41:08 Devastator: so got family over or something?
05:41:58 MidJag: Went up to see the folks and do some laundry and my little brother is back home as well sleeping off his second COVID vaccine shot.
05:42:26 Devastator: sadly, won't be available up here for a while.. likely until the states gets saturated.
05:42:47 MidJag: Yeah, He's going to college in Missipii, and they opened up their vaccinations to everyone
05:43:16 MidJag: I'm fucking calling Alabama will be the very last state to do that just to spite me
05:43:26 Devastator: ahh, the wonder of low uptake. ;-p
05:43:38 Devastator: eh, if it's that bad, you could probably cross the border.
05:43:50 MidJag: Nah they're only giving it to residents.
05:43:51 Devastator: does he know which one he got?
05:44:02 MidJag: He got Pfizers, which suprised me honestlly.
05:44:49 MidJag: I was expecting them to be giving out moderna what with it being easier to distrubte
05:45:51 Devastator: well, let me know when's good for high furry show.
05:46:43 Devastator: aight, I'm not super interested, but there's some kinda secret.
05:46:50 Devastator: and I hate not knowing stuff.
05:46:57 MidJag: Yeah, I'm kinda curious myself.
05:47:58 Devastator: opening looks like MC is 'shapeshifting furry' which is basically the dead standard furry MC.
05:48:19 Devastator: but there's a couple unusual things.
05:49:47 Devastator: the tourney is also interesting, but there's too much of it to actually watch.
05:52:15 Devastator: very impressive players, and some highly interesting games, but the stream was 8:45 today.
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05:55:00 Devastator: yeah. If I spend 8:45 doing something, I'd like to get paid.
05:56:57 syv: If you two continue to watch that show, I think I'd like to join just for social reasons. Worst case I drift off and read something else while chattering.
05:57:14 MidJag: I mean odds are *I'll* drift around things
05:57:41 syv: You don't so much focus on something, you orbit around it.
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06:03:06 syv: This application is getting increasingly unstable, it seems.
06:03:26 syv: Which is really weird, since it's an IRC application which doesn't receive updates.
06:03:54 MidJag: Maybe it's from your other device that's making it unstable?
06:04:14 Devastator: whatever it depends on updated.
06:04:15 MidJag: My phone updated once and made my phones IRC app...irritating to use to say the least.
06:04:29 syv: Maybe it's just Android updating, yeah.
06:11:14 Devastator: mmm, should play some alleg tomorrow too.
06:25:05 Devastator: "Last year in the semifinals, three of four people guessed they were playing Hera.
06:25:10 Devastator: The fourth player was Hera."
06:26:05 Devastator: hmm, you know if nobody comes outside in revenant, might just start playing around with the fire, hmm.
06:28:25 Devastator: eh, give it some time.
06:42:12 syv: Why did everyone think they were against Hera? Best player?
06:42:28 syv: Also Shalva will go outside once she wakes up.
06:52:21 Devastator: Hera wasn't the best, but has the most generic style.
06:56:58 Devastator: oop, looks like the top player got identified.
06:57:08 Devastator: someone went though the first two rounds without droppign a game, and did it in style.
06:59:14 Devastator: (This format is extremely strong for the top player.)
07:22:33 syv: I'd imagine because if you're the best, and your opponent doesn't know it's you, you can probably use tricks they'd usually at least try to counter. And they'd play riskier.
07:29:33 Devastator: also, the best player is a generalist.
07:30:27 Devastator: the map and civ draft setting on this one gives you each player three home maps and eight civ pics.. as well as permission to ban one map and one civ each, followed by a 'snipe' where you get to declare one civ your opponent picked off-limits.
07:30:42 Devastator: There are also four new maps made explicitly for the hidden cup.
07:30:47 Devastator: that were secret to everyone.
07:31:18 Devastator: sorry, three maps and seven civ picks, none allowed to be shared.
07:32:09 Devastator: the maps are also designed for ridiculously sharp, entertaining games, which makes them very skill-heavy.
07:32:48 Devastator: and two home maps, it's a best of 5.
07:32:59 Devastator: first game is always Arabia, the most popular map.
07:37:36 Devastator: lose and you play on one of your home maps.
07:38:25 Devastator: but with the top player being so flexable, and mirror matches banned due to the format, it's a serious benefit to him.
07:43:54 Devastator: but it's fair, it's just that the format is one he's particularly strong in.
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08:01:20 Devastator: looks like for the second time this days worth of games someone is playing the very archer-heavy Briton civilization and going Knights.
08:01:26 Devastator: and it's going to work again.
08:04:22 Devastator: maybe not, the player blundered it.
08:27:07 Devastator: Huh, actually speaking of Hera..
08:27:15 Devastator: he did his Hera Confirmed video on him.
08:30:16 Devastator: more boring than most of the others, heh.
10:20:29 Devastator: There is one fantastically agressive player who is in the top 20 or so, but isn't really a top-ranking normal player because the very best know how to beat him.
10:20:46 Devastator: he's failed in qualifying both years, but if he was in hidden cup, it'd cause mayhem.
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16:37:22 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
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20:39:40 Devastator: genuine newbie in alleg today.
22:54:57 Devastator: updated extinction again.
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