ERLOG 2021-02-21

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00:00:55 er: <3
00:03:07 syv: Yeah yea
00:03:10 syv: <3 ER
00:03:50 Devastator: hahah.
00:08:40 Devastator: that does sound insane.
00:10:29 syv: Also, it's disheartening to look at what was actually changed between commits to the Akina file in the AoTTG 2 github.
00:10:52 syv: Previously, I just tested the different versions, I didn't actually check their code. I'm not a dev, why would I?
00:11:34 Devastator: hah
00:11:50 syv: One commit was just changing speed from 10 to 9.5 in two spots because I said the timing was off. No investigation as to *why* the timing was off, nah, just reduce the speed by 5%.
00:12:05 syv: Which if he paid any attention to what I said, he'd realize would only break things MORE.
00:12:21 syv: And *then* there's the issue that there were only two commits to the file, ever.
00:12:36 syv: But the map changed several more times than that, in chaotic ways.
00:12:49 syv: Nobody's changing the code, but in different builds it works differently.
00:13:03 syv: That sounds like someone is fucking with something they shouldn't be fucking with.
00:13:07 Devastator: madness.
00:13:32 syv: And when I check which version of Unity I should download? 2020.5, despite Unity itself recommending you only use a 2019 version.
00:13:45 syv: And the game was coded in 2015, and I think used Unity 2013.
00:14:03 syv: Which I *know* has introduced problems that they've had to fix.
00:14:17 syv: But they've had to fix them before fixing the *underlying game*.
00:17:22 Devastator: Man, I'm amazed this thing can hold together.
00:17:27 Devastator wonders how janky the alleg source was.
00:38:43 syv: Frankly, AoTTG 2 does *not* hold together
00:39:08 syv: And RC--the mod of the original 2015 browser game which *everyone* uses--is really only mostly stable.
00:39:16 syv: After literally years of people patching it.
00:39:23 syv: And it's just riddled with bugs.
00:39:50 syv: Bugs that have been so meticulously studied and analyzed that they've practically formed competitive scenes around them.
00:40:29 syv: There is literally not a single gameplay mode where the highest level gameplay *doesn't* revolve around the exploitation/avoidance of some bug or another.
00:40:54 Devastator: this is all going to disappear on one random day in 2025, right?
00:41:39 syv: I have said it before, but it's less that the game works properly, it's more that it's made of a ridiculously tall pile of bugs and patches which introduced *other* bugs that the whole assembly is something fun.
00:41:59 syv: I legitimately don't think *any* mechanic works as the original creator intended.
00:42:15 syv: Everything he made, he made by accident in an incompetent attempt to make something better.
00:42:21 syv: And he lucked into making something fun.
00:42:41 syv: I don't see why it'd disappear?
00:43:02 syv: It's a singleplayer game that runs on your Desktop.
00:43:46 Devastator: playerbase will split into a thousand variants, or some Unity version will break everything.
00:44:29 syv: The former is likely. There's already the start of that, really. But it won't be sudden.
00:44:33 syv: The former...
00:44:41 syv: Honestly, no. Someone will just update it and fix it.
00:44:47 syv: *The latter
00:45:16 Devastator: ok
01:18:51 syv has an epiphany
01:19:00 syv: AoTTG 2 is a fork of RC.
01:19:04 syv: Anarchy is a fork of RC.
01:19:22 syv: Both of them should have an identical Akina map. Nobody should have touched any of the code for Akina.
01:19:33 syv: AoTTG 2's Akina is broken. Anarchy's isn't.
01:19:36 syv: HOW.
01:20:23 Devastator: race conditions?
01:20:38 syv: No like,
01:20:49 syv: The moving blocks in AoTTG are broken.
01:21:02 syv: They all went left at first, and then I complained about this and they switched some.
01:21:16 syv: And "goes left" is apparently just a boolean 1.
01:21:38 syv: How did they set all of these bools to 1?
01:21:54 syv: There's no possible reason you'd *deliberately* do that.
01:22:04 syv: And nobody was even messing with Akina, anyway.
01:22:31 Devastator: it's the magic switch.
01:24:01 syv: Also, I gotta love these variable names.
01:24:12 syv: There's seven crusher blocks which go side to side in the race.
01:24:21 syv: Each is named "moveingbrick"
01:24:30 Devastator: glorious.
01:24:47 syv: Each moveingbrick slides between "movingbrickA", and "movingBrickB".
01:26:22 syv: At least A is consistently on the north side.
01:31:32 syv: Checking Anarchy's source, it doesn't have a fully decompiled copy of RC included.
01:31:45 syv: So presumably something went wrong with how they decompiled the game.
02:28:58 Devastator: mmm
02:47:06 Devastator: we getting that OVA tonight?
02:47:15 Devastator: or you too deep in the programming trance, syv?
02:47:46 syv: I just finished the... programming shit.
02:48:06 syv: I'm fairly uninterested in watching a movie at work, honestly.
02:48:42 Devastator: ok.
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08:03:20 Topic for #einsteinianroulette: Fleshorrors dream of feline BASS
08:03:20 Topic set by syv [Tuesday 29 September 2020, 08:56:47]
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16:09:54 Piecewise: IMPORTANT ANIME BULLSHIT NEWS FOR SYV
16:10:56 Piecewise: They've apparently heard his prayers and are combining anime girls and guns in an all new way
16:11:25 Piecewise: Look at this girl!
16:11:26 Piecewise: https://img.amiami.com/images/product/main/211/FIGURE-122752.jpg
16:12:05 Piecewise: Look at this gun!
16:12:06 Piecewise: https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=FIGURE-122751
16:12:41 Piecewise: Look at this girl RIDING this gun
16:12:42 Piecewise: https://img.amiami.com/images/product/review/211/FIGURE-122751_06.jpg
16:13:28 Piecewise: There are four of these girls.
16:14:40 Piecewise: In all the different stereotypes you want
16:15:03 Piecewise: And they all relate to a gun part or accessory.
16:15:05 Piecewise: https://www.amiami.com/eng/search/list/?s_keywords=Girl%20Gun%20Lady
16:15:46 Piecewise: AND THEY CAN APPARENTLY ALL VOLTRON TOGETHER INTO A GAINT GUN
16:16:26 Piecewise: And they sell the models of those guns. With realistic loading action and mechanisms
16:17:18 Piecewise: ITS GOT AN EXTENDING STOCK
16:17:18 Piecewise: https://img.amiami.com/images/product/review/211/FIGURE-122751_03.jpg
16:17:26 Piecewise: ITS GOT RELOADING
16:17:37 Piecewise: https://img.amiami.com/images/product/review/211/FIGURE-122751_04.jpg
16:17:50 Piecewise: Its got everything a gun weeb could want!
16:18:01 Piecewise: Its so goddamn stupid its kinda neat
16:18:28 Piecewise: And its called "Gun Girl Lady"
16:18:33 Piecewise: For fucking sake
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18:20:21 Devastator: heya.
18:20:40 Devastator: Thanks for the gungirls, Piecewise.
18:20:45 Devastator: I'm sure syv will be happy.
18:21:00 Piecewise: I'm sure he'll be angry but thats syv
18:21:04 Devastator: I would like to remind you however, that anime girls exist for every sizeable ship in the IJN.
18:21:11 Devastator: yes, syv is picky about his guns.
18:23:46 Devastator: anyway, heya PW.
19:20:10 Devastator: Also, I'm going to stream Allegiance today, Piecewise.
19:20:24 Devastator: starting in about forty minutes.
19:53:26 Devastator: okay.
19:53:34 Devastator: games are running a bit early, so I'm going to start early too.
19:53:37 Devastator: stream's up.
19:53:41 Devastator: twitch.tv/kofiman19
20:06:24 ER: what kind of strange game is this, Devastator?
20:06:34 ER: never heard of it. :p
20:06:46 ER: why don't you ever talk about it
20:15:01 Devastator: heh.
20:15:05 Devastator: yes, never talk about it.
20:15:08 Devastator: evar.
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21:00:50 syv: Watching stream, kinda, but distracted.
21:01:38 syv: Defend transport? HTT?
21:05:20 syv: 0 kills, heh
21:05:33 syv: That was a fairly big game
21:05:44 Devastator: I haven't killed anyone in two games.
21:05:45 syv: The transport run was just full of ships
21:05:45 Devastator: and yeah.
21:05:48 Devastator: transport is the HTT.
21:05:53 Devastator: that's normal, really.
21:06:02 Devastator: fourish nans, fourish ints..
21:06:05 syv: Swarm of angry bees
21:06:06 Devastator: that's a normal HTT run.
21:06:16 syv: And they took you all out really fast
21:06:22 Devastator: nah, not you all.
21:06:32 Devastator: just me. Looks like I was the first nan, so the one that got targetted.
21:06:37 Devastator: the other three lived longer.
21:10:26 Devastator: thanks for coming by, syv.
21:10:31 syv: Welcome
21:10:33 Devastator: but yeah, that's what a normal HTT run looks like.
21:10:46 Devastator: when you don't have the enemy base camped, which also happens sometimes.
21:10:47 syv: Need a distraction right now, anyway
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21:35:18 syv: Goodbye, Eggo
21:35:47 syv: "What's their armor class?"
21:35:55 syv: I don't understand what that's referring to.
21:36:00 syv: Type of ship...?
21:42:01 syv: You backspace a lot of messages
21:43:45 syv: Why's autopilot basically always immediately disengage after engaging?
21:51:05 syv: Wow. Figbees are something.
21:54:27 syv: Ohhh, I just say that figbees and fighters have armor class "Light".
21:54:37 syv: So yeah, type of ship, and I guess type of weapon that's best.
21:55:33 syv: I guess caps are probably heavy, and galvs or dists do lots of damage versus heavy?
21:56:30 syv: Wow, that was terrible luck for jules
21:57:01 syv: Starting his bombing run, and then.... ohp! Heavily armed anti-bomber comes through the aleph right in front of him.
21:57:12 syv: Tho;ugh I guess it was some other kind of capship.
21:57:15 syv: No nans.
21:57:30 Devastator: yeah, that was a capship.
21:57:34 Devastator: I wasn't bombing.
21:57:42 Devastator: I was in a cover fighter with anti-capship weapons.
21:57:53 Devastator: and yeah, disruptors do heavy anti-cap weapons.
21:57:57 Devastator: anti-cap damage.
21:58:01 Devastator: low to small ships.
21:58:06 Devastator: very low to miners and cons.
21:59:46 syv: What are pts?
22:00:52 Devastator: PTs are the third special gt faction ship, sort of a hybrid unit like most of the others.
22:00:56 Devastator: they aren't that remarkable.
22:02:20 syv: Hybrid of what?
22:08:10 syv: ...Did you just get killed by a scout while in a fighter?
22:14:20 syv: They fucking proxxed your exit door???
22:14:29 syv: And that nearly killed you!
22:19:00 syv: Why does your team always win when I'm watching?
22:23:05 syv: Why do you shoot back when you gret in a dogfight that you can't win?
22:23:19 syv: Just to deal damage which has to be healed?
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22:25:27 syv: Why's there an enemy base within spitting distance of your base
22:25:31 syv: Is this exp vs exp?
22:25:33 MidJag: I'm kinda here. doing a lot of homework right now
22:25:39 syv: Oh, hello.
22:25:43 MidJag: hello
22:25:55 syv: And another win for Dev.
22:26:10 MidJag: nice
22:26:15 Devastator: the magic of joining the stack.
22:26:20 Devastator: and it was exp v exp
22:26:26 Devastator: the enemy base was so close because we were on offense.
22:26:30 syv: He hasn't lost a single match of Alleg while I've been watching.
22:26:30 Devastator: we pushed a con into the enemy secot.r
22:26:34 Devastator: and built it close.
22:26:42 Devastator: well, you got to see a game where I had no kills in 50 minutes.
22:26:43 MidJag: This sounds like dev
22:26:55 syv: That's not a loss
22:27:00 syv: That's just Dev, winning.
22:27:12 Devastator: and basically, yeah.
22:27:16 Devastator: you shoot back to deal some damage.
22:27:21 Devastator: better than not.
22:27:28 Devastator: having your exit door proxed in those kinda fights is normal.
22:27:51 syv: Seems a bit absurd.
22:27:57 Devastator: well, it's offense.
22:28:03 Devastator: you shove a con into the enemy sector.
22:28:04 Devastator: plant it.
22:28:08 Devastator: and then you have bases next to each other.
22:28:11 Devastator: pretty common.
22:28:35 syv: Assuming the rocks line up.
22:28:44 Devastator: there's usually some rock, but yeah.
22:28:50 Devastator: not usually with the red door facing the enemy base.
22:28:52 Devastator: that's luckier.
22:37:08 syv: It occurs to me, having HTTs means KB is less important. Not a damage dealing killer.
22:37:26 syv: So you can put all high KB peeps in the escort ships.
22:37:45 syv: Unless... do HTTs have turrets?
22:38:06 syv: I think when you grabbed one, you didn't wait for turrets, but then you had to fly barely anywhere, so waiting would be a little dumb.'
22:40:16 MidJag: It's kinda cool how your both an RTS and an indiviual unit at the same time
22:40:26 MidJag: Like mount and blade on fucking steroids
22:43:41 syv: Yeah.
22:43:53 syv: Starcraft but all your combat units are mini commanders.
22:44:18 MidJag: Yeah
22:44:19 syv: Still wanna see Dev comm.
22:45:13 MidJag: Also for this anth homework I find it enlessly funny that whenever a proffesor has to show a video they always find either some sketchy site that has the domcunetery or some youtube video that also has the documentary.
22:46:25 MidJag: That's always at about the lowest possible resolution and was uploaded half a decade ago.
22:47:27 syv: If it works!
22:47:28 syv shrugs
22:48:05 MidJag: Just find it funny because like it shows that proffesors pirate just as much as the students
22:49:27 syv: But of course!
22:49:40 syv: They're more interested in teaching and learning than stupid absurd copyright laws.
22:49:55 MidJag: True
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22:52:34 syv: Turret gameplay!
22:52:38 syv: Hello, Egan
22:53:31 syv: They do *not* have good anti-capship capacity right now.
22:53:51 ER: who? I see only an ER here
22:54:18 MidJag: devs playing alleg
22:54:34 MidJag: syv's watching, I'm half watching as I do some homework
22:56:44 ER: yes
22:57:53 syv: "Capships, the best anti-miner ship"
22:58:06 syv: Seems to be anti-everything, you've ripped through like six enemies
22:58:53 syv: Seven.
22:59:01 syv: People are gonna be seeing this corvette in their nightmares.
23:01:32 MidJag: Dev "who needs an army" astator
23:01:55 ER: with a fucking pencil
23:06:24 syv: !!!!!
23:06:32 syv: HEAVY INTERCEPTORS CAN NAN?!
23:06:40 syv: I thought it was scouts only!
23:10:42 syv: what the hell?
23:10:45 syv: Suddenly just dead?
23:13:02 syv: Kils: 15
23:13:12 Devastator: the aleph res.
23:13:13 syv: And Dev was complaining about getting no kills before.
23:13:20 Devastator: it kills guys on the other side of an lalpeh.
23:13:25 syv: What's a res?
23:13:29 Devastator: htt bounced off the green door.
23:13:31 Devastator: ahh.
23:13:34 Devastator: a huge bomb.
23:13:39 Devastator: it blows up on the other side of an aleph.
23:13:41 Devastator: out to a couple k.
23:13:45 Devastator: it's for clearing camps.
23:14:07 syv: A real pity you swapped with the scout.
23:14:22 syv: One scout would've been a much smaller loss than that golden corvette.
23:24:23 syv: The color switching always trips me up.
23:32:30 syv: Also, people constantly shortening "Shipyard" (I assume) to "sy" is fucking with me.
23:33:45 syv: Huh. Dev in a bomber.
23:35:16 syv: Well. That was terrible.
23:36:43 ER: bleh
23:37:16 syv: Dev finally lost!
23:37:53 Devastator: yes.
23:37:55 Devastator: exp
23:37:56 Devastator: sup
23:37:58 Devastator: tac
23:37:59 Devastator: sy
23:41:09 Devastator: should have went IC Tacyard.
23:41:14 Devastator: you D with corvs and kill all miners.
23:41:22 ER: I want to hang out but I'm not exactly interested in watching alleg
23:41:29 Devastator: aight, sorry ER.
23:41:37 Devastator: I'll be wrapping it up fairly soon.
23:41:49 MidJag: You can listen to me complain about homework.
23:42:02 syv: Never change, MJ.
23:43:03 MidJag: I'm not even sure I could if I wanted to :P
23:53:40 ER: welp
23:53:46 ER: tried out a new roguelike
23:53:50 syv: Oh?
23:53:55 ER: spent some time looking at the menus and stuff
23:54:13 ER: open up my inventory and examine my armor
23:54:32 ER: then I try to examine my other stuff but accidentially eat my armor instead
23:54:33 ER: ...
23:54:36 ER: which kills me
23:55:06 ER: is this one https://untrustedlife.itch.io/roguelegends-dark-realms-0182
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