03:10:22 Devastator: It's going to be a very long time until I see something geekier than 'decompressing pokémon sprite data by hand.'
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05:30:53 syv: Watched that MissingNo vid.
05:31:12 syv: "We'll take a look at some theoretical glitch pokémon thst don
05:46:31 Devastator: that was an actual sentence.
05:53:52 Devastator: I know that intellectually
05:54:15 syv: It is very difficult to think of anything that comes even close to this.
05:55:04 syv: I considered the guy who read through the binaries of the mcdonald's game to find the DRM password, but then that was looking through binaries to unlock access to cheeseburger animations.
05:55:19 Devastator: Plus that was a nearly unique item.
05:55:39 syv: This is looking through binaries to find... senseless streams of junk data arranged into arbitrary blocks.
05:56:50 syv: "Theoretical glitch pokémon within Candy Crush"
05:57:31 syv: "Theoretical glitch pokémon within compressed PNGs of Donald Trump's face."
05:58:42 syv: "Theoretical glitch pokémon within the atmosphere, as discovered by Random.org"
05:59:31 syv: I'd like to see that video, actually.
06:00:35 Devastator: there's two more in the series,
syv.
06:00:55 syv: I watched the theoretical glitch pokemon one.
06:02:31 syv: I promised to help with
MJ's MP armory tonight. I also got sucked into being the mediator in a giant argument over a minor glitch in AoTTG, over the last few days.
06:08:06 syv: The glitch argument has been very frustrating. Basically, it gives a minor niche advantage to people who use a certain control setup, occasionally. Translates to a timesave of 1-3 seconds on most maps, sometimes a bit larger if perfectly done on very long maps (>200s). The group that can't use it insists nobody should be able to do it. The group that *can* use it insists it should be made available to everyone.
06:08:44 Devastator: is it easily fixable and a pita?
06:08:47 syv: Most of those who can use it don't know how to and don't know how to works. In fact it seems like nobody knows how it works, and only a very few people hage managed to actually use it.
06:09:17 syv: It's trivially easy to remove. One mod already has, by default, as an *accidental* bugfix.
06:09:38 syv: Applying it equally to all control methods would be a little more work but not substantially.
06:09:40 Devastator: then it's probably best to remove it.
06:10:07 Devastator: if nobody knows how it works it might not be reliable.
06:10:12 syv: Mostly been very frustrating for the sheer amount of misinformation and namecalling.
06:11:04 syv: A lot of people who don't use it claim it's *very* reliable and they see people abusing it all the time. But... can't provide any evidence. And the people they claim abuse it say it's basically luck.
06:11:38 syv: Also, there's been about five different explanations of how it works.
06:12:25 syv: I finally interrogated enough people to get good video of it, but it's still questionable *why* it happens.
06:13:26 syv: Even worse, some people claim it's terrible, then give an explanation of it... which when taken literally actually makes it a *disadvantage*, they
06:13:36 syv: just don't understand what they're talking about.
06:13:48 syv: Because the variation in actual game knowledge is massive.
06:15:51 syv: One of the times where my obsession with figuring out the actual explanation has led me down a deep deep rabbit hole of so much argumentation. And so much restatement as I debunk myths, and then repeatedly *re-debunk* them as more people chime in that the opposition is stupid because [myth].
06:16:08 Devastator: Ahh, the death of expertise,
syv.
06:16:15 Devastator: gotta get you that book. ;-p
06:16:27 syv: Is there a book named that?
06:17:11 Devastator: it's about morons listening to each other rather than respecting genuine expertise.
06:18:06 Devastator: don't worry about it.
06:18:09 Devastator: there's better books.
06:19:24 syv: This is less a case of ignoring expertise, more people just not discussing with each other and trying to find answers.
06:19:44 syv: "I know this is bad and you use it so you are bad and wrong and not worth speaking with"
06:20:06 syv: I've literally had several people message me to say trying to talk to [other side] is worthless and I should give up.
06:20:25 syv: The sheer level of bloodthirst over this tiny tiny glitch is amazing.
06:22:05 syv: It's fun. Just also angering.
06:22:11 syv: But being angry is fun. >.>
06:22:23 syv: And I *have* made a lot of progress.
06:23:46 Devastator: ..I'm so glad we watched wolfkids.
06:28:27 syv: Is this gonna become another movie you watch regularly?
06:29:08 Devastator: Maybe like Last Crusade, something I look at once every few years.
06:29:09 Devastator: not more than that.
06:30:54 Devastator: but was good to discover.
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07:18:14 Devastator: I did succeed in bringing premium to Russia in Automation.
07:18:40 Devastator: what it took was building a big enough factory for proper steel undercarriages on premium models, to make for cheap but quality ones.
07:18:54 Devastator: but that took some years for the market to get big enough.
07:19:08 Devastator: then I experimented with selling them abroad. It seems the americans loved them to a ludicrous degree.
07:19:55 Devastator: Next game is going to be 'you're in america, you start with one large factory, you can never build another.'
07:20:20 Devastator: Working out well so far, but you need to be careful about your model choices, and you want to go for the highest-paying markets that can buy all your cars.
07:20:43 Devastator: "126.6 million worth of taxes will be paid over the next 12 months."
07:20:50 Devastator: also, not expanding is expensive. ;-p
07:23:24 Devastator: also also, learning that factory wear is a bigger factor than I thought it was. After some years of work, the tools wear out and production really slows down.
07:23:37 Devastator: more than I thought. Going to have to refresh models more frequently than I was expecting.
07:25:04 Devastator: It looks like the best time to design my next models is while the current ones are a year or two from finishing, just before the factory starts retooling.
07:26:03 Devastator: If I wait until after, I should do a facelift after about six or seven years to retool the factory.
07:26:54 Devastator: but that's a year without production so..
07:27:26 Devastator: aaanyway, should add a specialized maintenence section to the big factory. A mere 480 million. ;-p
07:30:41 Devastator: This game is so complicated.
07:46:37 Devastator: so how are you,
MidJag?
07:51:18 syv: Probably annoyed with me. >.>
08:14:06 Devastator: zombie princess and bird. :-D
08:28:02 MidJag: Ah, apologies, brother came back inside got distracted.
08:28:17 MidJag: I'm fine, it's weird not haveing things to do.
08:28:31 Devastator: you did like the movie, right?
08:28:41 Devastator: and yeah, that's a feeling.
08:30:19 MidJag: Yeah, like I keep feeling like I'm forgetting something, but then I realize I just genuinelly don't have anything to do.
08:30:38 Devastator: wouldn't mind hearing your opinion on Extinction..
08:30:42 Devastator: if you have time to read it.
08:31:08 MidJag: question is am I too drunk to provide useful commentary
08:33:06 Devastator: also had puzzle, but it looks like
ER cracked the missing bit.
08:33:35 ER: Irony was thinking far too inside of the box for me :P
08:34:21 Devastator: "We have no lightning"
08:34:26 Devastator: "YOU HAVE A LIGHTNING SPEAR"
08:34:44 Devastator: was also chasing the utterly meaningless descriptions, too.. ;-p
08:35:49 ER: if they weren't important then maybe you could have made that clear somehow :P
08:38:06 Devastator: Shush. It would have been obvious if they reloaded because they would have been different the second time around.
08:39:30 ER: still not entirely comportable with savescumming. my canon is that Trence died on that boat...
08:40:16 Devastator: mmm, yeah, can see that.
08:40:40 Devastator: I would have been happy to have him conquer, but this was supposed to be a JRPG, and I had various death scenes in mind.
08:41:00 Devastator: the first encounter with actual enemy forces was one of those.
08:41:14 Devastator: so I would have felt bad if you never saw any of them.
08:41:48 Devastator: There's.. I think there's at least one other that likely will happen.
08:42:28 Devastator: I hope it isn't too much of a spoiler that Carina of the Starry Skies was working for the main enemy forces.
08:44:15 Devastator: Also, he wouldn't die here if you didn't reload.
08:44:33 Devastator: Uncle can find him and is looking, and Willis was standing further away and survived.
08:44:39 Devastator: so they'd pull him out.
08:44:53 Devastator: overall, though, I expect about one more death.
08:45:14 Devastator: I could see two, but not many.
08:45:23 Devastator: and you guys might go clean the rest of the way.
08:46:44 Devastator: mmm, maybe for puzzles I'll just call it reset magic, like in Lufia II, where you can just reset a puzzle when you screw it up.
08:46:50 Devastator: mind you, taht's a puzzle RPG.
08:48:39 Devastator: Yeah, I'd guess two deaths overall would be expected.
08:48:46 Devastator: the boat, and one other.
08:50:39 Devastator: although I didn't know it'd be a boat. I knew sooner or later you'd run into one of that adventuring group, just not where and when exactly, and thought that'd mean a death, as whoever you ran into would be a big difficulty spike.
08:56:44 Devastator: anyway, if you want a more detailed epilogue at some point of what happens after the boat death, I'll write it up for you. It would have spoilers, however.
09:03:03 Devastator: Yeah, I'll just make it like a 'puzzle reset', if I put in another puzzle.
09:03:16 Devastator: maybe another one before the end of the game.
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09:08:48 MidJag_: well I should go to bed
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09:46:07 syv: This actually made me burst out laughing.
09:48:16 Devastator: wouldn't harry potter with guns have a dead harry as a baby?
09:50:04 Devastator: but yeah, that's funny.
09:50:17 syv: No, apparently Voldemort has a gun that shoots smaller guns.
09:50:32 syv: Muzzle velocity too low to penetrate his skull.
09:50:53 Devastator: what kind of gun does harry get?
10:03:49 ER: from the comments: "legend has it that john wick himself was taught at this very school"
10:04:55 syv: "Master has presented Dobby with a Glock!"
11:43:18 Devastator: What'd you call that hybrid?
11:44:47 ER: well fine then discord, don't work
18:56:42 Devastator: you know, it is fairly remarkable how much permanent gear you guys keep managing to lose.
18:57:10 Devastator: the glaive on that altar.
19:32:00 Devastator: gloves should be fun.
19:32:16 Devastator: and each of the kids has an empty accessory slot.
21:36:43 Devastator: yeah, you have the right of it,
ER.
21:36:49 Devastator: clothing is armour, in this system.
21:40:01 ER: but our cold weather gear was an accessory :P
21:40:57 Devastator: It is. Counts as a cloak.
21:41:11 Devastator: added some stuff to that last post.
21:41:18 Devastator: about what to expect from different kinds of accessories.
21:44:15 Devastator: If you get truly screwed it'll likely be at least worth money.
21:45:07 Devastator: I kinda do hope you do the potion.. although I'd expect you'll never use it. ;-p
21:45:36 Devastator: Nah, I'll give you nasty enough situations where it'll be not too hard to argue for using the potion. ;-p
21:48:40 Devastator: oh, and take as long as you need for Revenant,
ER.
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22:26:43 Devastator: no fucks are given.
22:28:07 Piecewise: Gun was jammed the whole time too
22:28:48 Devastator:
Syv will have fun upon seeing that.
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