05:15:13 Devastator: answered your question,
ER.
05:16:41 ER: darn, should have cut a feather off of carina's hat ;P
05:22:51 Devastator: Did she have a hat?
05:23:17 Devastator: coulda kept a bit of their thaumulator.
05:25:00 Devastator: I'll leave it for a bit here in case of other questions.
05:31:02 Devastator: That said.. Farflame isn't the god if you want bonuses, or if you want to cash in rewards. Don't expect to get more than you already have.
05:31:20 Devastator: it's more you do stuff in advance and then maybe something will happen if you need it badly later.
05:31:58 ER: I'm not here for goodies, I wanted to express our thanks
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05:41:35 Devastator: also competitive tetris videos are compelling.
05:43:30 ER: this rite has slightly higher stakes than the others o_o'
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07:36:03 Devastator: ugh, I gotta tally your loot again in Extinction. ;-p
07:40:58 syv: I have it up. Buuut should wait a few, I'll do clouds a little early.
07:42:40 Devastator: time for more tetris.
07:51:03 syv: Fucking birds? So the harpies in that game fuck?
07:51:17 syv: I didn't know you played those kinds of games, Egan.
07:51:18 Devastator: that would be traditional for harpies, yes.
07:52:01 syv: Isn't it traditional for harpies to kill and eat people?
07:53:58 ER: not sure if Harps fuck. they seem to be an all female race
07:54:34 Devastator: How many of these secret underground lairs are there?
07:54:37 syv: That seems like an impractical way to steal that.
07:56:21 ER: oh, are inspector and enforcer eyes cybernetically augmented?
07:56:44 ER: ...does that mean they can be spoofed?
07:56:45 syv: The dominators stream an overlay to their eyes. Always have.
07:56:59 syv: They probably can be blinded by it if it's hacked somehow, yes.
07:57:03 ER: I figured that could have been hologram or laser nonsense
07:57:47 syv: I dislike how it seems like season 2 is gonna be based on another superpower.
07:58:46 Devastator: that was probably inevitable, really.
07:58:52 ER: might not be innate this time
07:59:08 Devastator: remember, season 1 had both heroic characters superpowered.
07:59:49 Devastator: cutecop never gets clouded and Heroboy was super strong, super smart and super skilled at basically everything.
08:00:13 Devastator: "Hi, I'm an immensely skilled fighter who is also the smartest person on the force."
08:00:24 syv: Oh hey, he *is* locked up.
08:00:44 Devastator: yeah, I remember him saying he'd turn himself in to avoid worrying about getting shot.
08:01:10 syv: That was just him being a protagonist in general.
08:01:52 syv: Someone being exceptional in all ways is possible; it's not a superpower.
08:02:54 syv: Cutecop never being clouded is a little more special, but not terribly unreasonable. Sociopath being zero while murdering is more a power, and being invisible to computers is 100% a superpower.
08:03:36 Devastator: yeah, probably. Although for season 1, being unreadable seemed about as unlikely as just some rando being skilled at everything.
08:05:28 Devastator: right, he got stomped on in season 1.
08:08:18 ER: hey look it's """""chief"""""
08:08:52 Devastator: God, it must be so frustrating trying to go over Tsunemori's head. ;-p
08:10:01 ER: highest? what could that possibly be?
08:10:29 syv: Don't recognize that number.
08:10:41 Devastator: Avagados constant, except I've got it wrong.
08:12:55 syv: "An operation is supposed to feel like a power trip. Now what does command see in my superior who keeps ordering me around?"
08:13:41 ER: well now things will go badly
08:14:33 Devastator: "Kamui doesn't exist"
08:14:45 Devastator: Next guy: "I am a follower of Kamui."
08:15:15 syv: I wonder if Kamui is just telling people about a backdoor thought process that tricks Sibyl.
08:16:02 Devastator: well, things aren't serious until heroboy shows up.
08:16:10 Devastator: that's when things will get nasty.
08:18:25 ER: "the drugs the state gives you are bad. take my drugs"
08:19:20 syv: A pitch that has met a lot of support IRL.
08:23:12 Devastator: Man, if you couldn't jump, you'd never get to any conclusions at all.
08:23:32 syv: Freckles is such a bitch constantly.
08:23:49 Devastator: yeah. How the hell did she pass screening?
08:24:13 ER: screening is online tests to figure out what you're good at :P
08:24:29 Devastator: ''enjoys hurting people"
08:24:59 syv: They regularly use them as--Oh!
08:25:16 syv: And she stops him, like an idiot.
08:25:35 ER: she's the police, she has to take the glory
08:25:49 Devastator: The issue with cutecop being the best investigator is it means everyone else is worse.
08:26:43 syv: Kamui fucked up with this one.
08:26:58 Devastator: mind you, 'no, I'll do it' isn't unreasonable.
08:28:16 syv: And this is why Heroboy practiced punching people.
08:28:26 syv: It's not even weird that dominators fail.
08:28:43 ER: they don't work if the net goes down
08:28:46 syv: And of course she can't fight.
08:29:12 Devastator: That would involve thinking for herself.
08:29:23 Devastator: not her best skill.
08:29:54 Devastator: right next to 'delusion'
08:30:16 Devastator: 'being a bitch' and 'deluding herself.' those are her strong points.
08:30:27 ER: you're literally the one who makes that decision
08:30:51 Devastator: "Let me be in charge." "Okay, You're in charge"
08:30:53 Devastator: "Nobody told me what to do."
08:31:22 Devastator: now actively preventing people from doing stuff!
08:31:27 syv: And then she hears orders and says specifically not--yeah.
08:31:59 Devastator: The bar is currently low.
08:34:36 syv: THEY HAVE ANTIMATERIEL DOMNINATORS
08:34:42 Devastator: You shot the inspector?
08:35:32 Devastator: well, looks like we get a massacre.
08:35:54 Devastator: So the plan was to produce a massacre?
08:36:08 Devastator: She is the worst inspector.
08:36:11 syv: She literally *always* says exactly the wrong thing.
08:36:18 syv: And then switches once it changes.
08:37:22 Devastator: ..so what's going to happen to inspector no-brain?
08:38:08 Devastator: yeah, he might see it as another failure.
08:38:13 Devastator: can't teach a dumbass inspector.
08:39:10 ER: the long dominator was cool, but does "assault dominator" make sense for its name?
08:39:28 Devastator: aren't assault guns supposed to shoot fortified positions?
08:40:00 syv: "Assault rifle" is a lighter mobile rifle meant to be used in an aggressive charging attack.
08:40:56 ER: the long dominator can scan targets through walls, meaning that it... can assist an assault?
08:41:38 ER: maybe call it siege dominator
08:41:44 syv: Will check clouds then start
08:44:20 Devastator: so drugs and charisma.
08:44:24 ER: ah, he put the eye in his head
08:45:03 ER: this is exactly what free will looks like
08:45:12 Devastator: Unquestioning obedience, yes.
08:45:28 Devastator: Will she learn anything?
08:45:53 Devastator: that's someone who isn't happy about that.
08:46:38 ER: what if we just suddenly reveal that supernatural beings exist in this setting?
08:46:57 syv: Yeah, he's also too perfect.
08:47:04 syv: And Cutecop seems attracted to him.
08:47:17 syv: So there will be a dramatic scene where she tearfully has to kill him.
08:47:36 syv: Wouldn't be surprised if an enforcer does it for her, saving her the guilt.
08:48:52 syv: Does this country even have votes...?
08:49:04 Devastator: Japan is a democracy, yes.
08:49:05 syv: I figure Sibyl just nominates politicians.
08:49:18 Devastator: and yeah, probably.
08:49:24 Devastator: there might be like council decisions and such.
08:49:34 Devastator: ie, she names the councillors and they vote on stuff.
08:51:06 Devastator: hmm, maybe Sibyl added personnel between season 1 and 2. It was a year, IIRC.
08:51:13 syv: Apparently they do specifically have representatives. Was asking about the title, not whether they were a democracy.
08:51:13 Devastator: seems to be more inspectors around.
08:51:32 syv: They always had two divisions, D1 just didn't get seen.
08:51:45 Devastator: I thought D1 was the main group.
08:53:35 syv: Okay, yep, you're right. They're D1.
08:54:02 Devastator: "That's why I'm doing nothing but complain about the workload."
08:54:25 Devastator: She is the -worst- inspector.
08:54:57 syv: The solution is to torture him to raise his hue.
08:55:09 Devastator: evil guy could do it.
08:55:29 Devastator: evil guy is an enforcer.
08:56:09 syv: Why do they still use miniguns when they have enforcers?
08:56:26 Devastator: I think they're for shooting non-citizens.
08:56:30 ER: alien tech can't be disentangled from the scanner
08:56:38 syv: Why not just--yeah, do that.
08:56:58 Devastator: and yeah, chief really, really didn't want non-scanner equipped dominators.
08:57:07 Devastator: really screamed about unlocking Kagume's gun in S1.
08:58:17 syv: Complains about her workload, still has the time to write and submit a whole collection of complaints.
08:58:36 Devastator: It's amusing how hopeless this attempt will be.
08:59:16 syv: I want her to become an enforcer.
08:59:35 ER: are sure you don't want her to explode?
08:59:36 Devastator: She's just so awful.
08:59:42 Devastator: I'd be happy with either, really.
08:59:51 syv: If she explodes she only suffers for a second.
09:00:24 ER: it looks pretty painful though
09:00:35 Devastator: Maybe they can invent "Maim" mode.
09:02:55 ER: make the cops kill tons of people!
09:03:11 Devastator: He already did that.
09:03:20 Devastator: this looks like "Make random people kill other people."
09:04:34 syv: Just copying the old "people play a game that's actually controlling a murderbot"
09:04:53 Devastator: yeah, not particularly new.
09:05:10 syv: So is Kamui building entirely autonomous peoplebots?
09:05:29 syv: ...This still doesn't make sense.
09:05:36 syv: A bot with a gun should still get shot.
09:05:50 syv: They've repeatedly shown dominators working against robots.
09:05:53 Devastator: might just be too many of them.
09:05:57 Devastator: there's like 80 there.
09:06:07 Devastator: that's a lot of robots.
09:06:11 syv: No, I mean Kamui not being shootable.
09:06:21 syv: He can't *just* be a robot.
09:06:31 syv: He's literally invisible, yeah.
09:06:34 Devastator: one more, than that's it.
09:06:53 syv: Only 11 eps to this season, wow.
09:07:16 ER: yeah, it seems to have a similar arc to s1 with less time to breathe
09:07:54 syv: And of course cops beat military.
09:08:04 Devastator: cops beating random mooks?
09:08:14 Devastator: I mean, these aren't military operators, just random scrubs.
09:09:01 Devastator: ..wait, do they use this ALL THE TIME?
09:09:06 ER: oh, it's literally intended behavior lol
09:09:17 Devastator: Just sent to random people instead of the normal operators?
09:09:37 Devastator: That makes the plot quite a bit more plausable.
09:09:54 ER: border security drones are operated by human operators... who just play a fun little game so that they're not traumatized
09:10:35 ER: yeah, I can see why kaumi is questioning sybil's color :P
09:11:32 ER: ah, so the guns have limits
09:12:50 Devastator: Ahh, got the proper Evil Clothing.
09:13:31 syv: I keep hearing his name as "Calmly".
09:14:41 ER: why does he need a lot of them
09:14:55 Devastator: wants to shoot a lot of people.
09:15:10 ER: or maybe he needs a lot of AP shots
09:15:28 syv: To discredit the police force, and therefore Sibyl.
09:15:30 Devastator: "Chief, something's wrong with these guns. Can you shut them down?"
09:15:54 Devastator: oh, so this is why there's a division 3 now. ;-p
09:16:07 Devastator: and to show off the cool gun.
09:16:19 syv: And of course D1 all survives and regroups.
09:16:30 Devastator: To be fair, they have Best Inspector.
09:16:47 syv: You know, chief sent extra forces here.
09:17:55 ER: time to traumatize some kids for a good cause
09:18:01 Devastator: big place, but dunno.
09:18:12 syv: I don't think disabling the holos would work.
09:20:27 ER: why is it that suddenly ALL enforcers are at lethal level, though?
09:20:32 Devastator: You know, if he can take parts of inspectors and graft them to himself, he can escape scans that way.
09:20:47 syv: Why would that fix it,
Dev?
09:20:57 Devastator: It'd mean less magic needed.
09:21:42 Devastator: yeah, and I bet they don't have safeties when inside the crate!
09:21:53 Devastator: so nothing stopping you from shooting them, if you can set one up.
09:22:41 Devastator: although it does seem like the kind of job that'll take more than 30 seconds.
09:22:44 syv: And she survives, because protagonist.
09:23:23 syv: Gun clicks every time it's touched.
09:24:13 syv: And this makes them stop trusting the police, which is what's desired.
09:24:15 Devastator: You really are right,
syv.
09:24:21 Devastator: she always, always says the wrong thing.
09:24:30 Devastator: better to let that happen?
09:24:49 Devastator: I mean, they'll zap one person each..
09:24:59 Devastator: and that'll damage those people.
09:24:59 syv: Better than "Oh, random people got to control the entire police drone network"
09:25:22 Devastator: That's true regardless of if they find out or not.
09:26:44 Devastator: okay, so no reading.
09:26:47 Devastator: not gibberish, no reading.
09:27:59 Devastator: yeah, she didn't do it last season.
09:28:03 Devastator: won't do it this season.
09:28:09 syv: She tried last time, actually.
09:28:12 ER: I thought she had character growth! :P
09:28:53 ER: she missed because she held it with one arm and didn't aim, because she didn't want to do it and was clutching the not-gun like a crutch
09:29:11 Devastator: in truth, I'd expect her to miss again..
09:29:21 Devastator: no way she's practiced shooting with real firearms.
09:29:36 ER: in terms of skill, but not in terms of character
09:29:48 Devastator: Maybe she'll shoot Worst Inspector.
09:29:50 syv: Would've been nice to see Kamuo go "Wait what?! Ahh!"
09:29:55 Devastator: that might have been wroth it.
09:30:01 Devastator: and yeah, that would be hilarious.
09:30:03 syv: Even if he survived, breaking his cool would've been fun.
09:30:06 ER: this isn't dnd, hitting or missing doesn't depend on your dex modifier and a d20, it's a story :P
09:30:15 Devastator: "Fuck, I misjudged someone!"
09:31:18 Devastator: "But I can't make mistakes like that! It'll mean I have to question my entire worldview!"
09:31:59 syv: "Now I hate her specifically! She makes me feel stressed! It's her fault!"
09:32:19 ER: see, that would have been a good story! :P
09:32:39 syv: Sadly, we're watching an anime, not a good story.
09:32:46 Devastator: some have good stories.
09:32:52 Devastator: but yes, this seems more average.
09:33:09 Devastator: I think you're more right than you know there.
09:33:41 syv: Most stories are crap. Anime doesn't really strike me as any better or worse than shows in general.
09:33:54 syv: Just with more art, less real people. And I prefer art.
09:34:15 ER: this season is a little bit "fuck, gotta make another makishima and make him even more menacing!" though
09:34:36 syv: Yeah. Except he's coming off to me more as a kid, less machiavellian.
09:35:05 ER: he serves conspicuously the same place in the story
09:35:07 syv: Makishima I liked, while Kamui I'm kinda just -.- on.
09:35:26 ER: even if he's characterized differently, the overall arc is just the same thing again
09:35:48 syv: We're dealing mostly with his interactions with other people, and his overall goal is destabilizing society, while figuring out Sibyl.
09:35:50 ER: complete with the other inspector besides cutecop being awful and useless :P
09:36:01 Devastator: I'm enjoying her awfulness.
09:36:07 Devastator: It's a new dimension.
09:36:10 syv: Freckles is really a downgrade. But yeah, she's more fun.
09:36:41 Devastator: Heroboy would eat her for breakfast.
09:36:43 syv: Ginoza in S1 was more "boring and by the book". Freckles is being "As actively harmful and useless as humanly possible"
09:36:57 Devastator: Ginoza tried and cared about his mistakes.
09:37:22 syv: Yeah, he'd've swatted her upside the head and charged into the building before D3 got there.
09:37:51 ER: "I can't do anything, nobody's giving me orders!" *literally at the top of the commance chain just below God itself*
09:38:06 syv: Oh, Chief also knows that evil guy is scanning Cutecop every day.
09:38:50 Devastator: fuck, I'm going to look up his name.
09:38:54 syv: But is just toying with it and having fun, since she's a sociopath who doesn't actually worry about things going bad in her playground.
09:39:54 Devastator: Don't like that nickname.
09:40:24 Devastator: Also, Ginoza's dad had a robot left arm too.
09:40:43 syv: And his son got a new one just as daddy died.
09:41:21 syv: Badcop is appropriate, since goodcop/badcop is standard. But here we have cutecop/badcop.
09:41:38 ER: an odd amount of slotting in new characters to old roles to play out the same story as before, is what I think
09:41:46 Devastator: I'm fine with badcop.
09:42:00 syv: IIRC S1 was written by Urobutcher, and S2 is another writer.
09:42:02 Devastator: just don't like heroboy. Kogame was a bit too good for something that generic.
09:42:06 ER: at least we get to keep lipstick
09:42:40 Devastator: What was the guy in Mellowlink?
09:42:42 syv: Even if that's official, I dislike that romanization, considering the pronunciation.
09:43:00 Devastator: Right, that was his name.
09:43:16 Devastator: "A man and his Anti Tank Rifle."
09:43:30 syv: I only remember his last name because it's sounds likely Artillery, and also because I named a gun in the gunlist after him.
09:43:46 Devastator: It was also the wussiest name for an 80's action hero.
09:44:20 syv: Arity is fine. But yeah, "Mellowlink" is hilarious.
09:45:33 Devastator: "My name is Mellowlink Arity. You killed my squadmates. Prepare to die."
09:45:39 Devastator: "Hahaha, Mellowlink? Hahaha."
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