ERLOG 2020-09-28

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00:49:01 Piecewise: yay!
00:51:32 Piecewise: Irony is available
00:51:37 Piecewise: Er is good I think?
00:54:24 Devastator: That's good.
00:54:44 Devastator: playing some Nova while waiting. Got jumped by a ship class I didn't know existed, so that was a surprise.
00:57:09 Devastator: I had no idea there was a carrier class upgrade for rebellion-operated dragon warships.
00:57:39 Devastator: so.. hey, carrier, but it's fast and has beam weapons, which makes it unique.
00:58:42 Devastator: also looked like it had a fighter bay full of upgraded fighter varients, which is always noticeable.
01:02:35 Piecewise: Always throw asteroids at them
01:03:16 Devastator: I wish. I misjudged how much it would take to kill fighters, and didn't hit each one hard enough, so they kept firing missiles into me.
01:03:35 Devastator: Which aren't part of the standard fighter loadout for the normal carrier fighters.
01:04:07 Devastator: and I thought I was going towards a carrier-upgraded rebel destroyer, but bam, it was the speedy dragon.
01:11:01 Devastator: Every other carrier ship in the game is something slow. Federation carriers. Pirate carriers. Carrier-Varient Destroyers. Auroran carriers are incredibly slow. Polaris Ravens are pretty slow and have inertialess drives. Polaris Scarabs are closest, but with those you are most concerned with the insanely powerful beam weapons and multi-torpedo launchers.
01:12:04 Devastator: Only real fast carrier with beam weapons is the big psychic-powered ship called the Vell-os Javelin, but those are not feared for the dart fighters, but for having the top beam weapon in the game and the huge amount of shields.
01:23:45 Devastator: Nastiest ships in the game are the alien nanoprobe assemblies called Krypt pods. Have perfect homing missiles that turn on a dime and do like 1000 shield-ignoring damage, meaning anything less than a heavy warship goes down in one hit, and a heavy warship goes down in about 2.5 seconds. And are very durable themselves.
01:28:03 Devastator: Fortunately they're never hostile by default and you are never asked to fight one.
01:37:24 Devastator: mmm, looking up it's stats it is interesting. Has four seperate fighter bays, but each one only had one varient fighter in it.
01:37:27 Devastator: its.
01:38:28 Devastator: If I captured one and wanted to fly it, well.. filling those bays would be really annoying. I'd have to capture the individual varient fighters one at a time after encoutering them.
01:54:44 Piecewise: Damn nano machines
01:54:51 ER: son
02:02:00 Devastator: https://web.archive.org/web/20080224105041/http://www.evula.com/survival_guide/evn-ships/aliens.html
02:10:52 Piecewise: Looks like you're fighting horseshoes
02:14:55 Devastator: Wraith aren't so bad.
02:28:49 Devastator: "Krypt has no weapons; why should she have? As far as she is concerned, she is the only life-form in the universe. Krypt is, however, very curious. She will send out colonies of nanites from her roving spheres to explore strange asteroids and other phenomena. These colonies will latch on to material in space, and start exploring the composition. This has a devastating effect on ships."
02:38:21 Devastator: The rather difficult part is getting to see that message in-game.
02:38:57 Devastator: because you can never acquire that weapon except through cheating or strangeness.
02:44:34 Piecewise: nothing like flavor text on things you'll never get
02:45:17 Devastator: Yeah.
02:45:27 Devastator: There's a bit of a trick, though.
02:46:17 Devastator: One station in the game is explicitly flagged as having nothing available for sale, but is able to buy anything off you. This includes stuff like the 'about to explode' varient of the illegal thorium reactor, and all manners of stuff you aren't supposed to be able to get your hands on. Everything is sellable.
02:46:57 Devastator: So people have tried various stupid methods of getting stuff to this planet to see flavor text.
02:49:10 Piecewise: Have you ever played or tried star sector?
02:51:06 ER: heh, starsexter
02:51:22 ER: that was fun and then I stopped playing it
02:52:42 Devastator: Yeah. Didn't feel as visceral as Nova.
02:52:45 Devastator: maybe I'll give it another shot.
02:55:33 Piecewise: I played it a bit my self but I'm more of a put a sword in a man kind of guy
02:56:35 ER: well, you can always put the biggest gun you can on a wolf
02:56:41 ER: teleport behind them
02:56:49 ER: say nothin personell kid
03:03:09 Devastator: mmm.
03:03:16 Devastator: is saeko gonna be able to toss around some robots?
03:04:41 Piecewise: I mean yes
03:04:56 Piecewise: rolls will show how many
03:05:27 Devastator: yay
03:05:42 ER: just eat them
03:06:11 Devastator: hmm, might need some spells to do that.
03:06:14 Devastator: metal robots.
03:15:08 Piecewise: Any idea when Sy will show up?
03:16:26 Devastator: Next hour, maybe.
03:16:53 Piecewise: I want muh suffering!
03:17:05 Piecewise: *bangs silverware on the table*
03:17:17 ER: be more pateint, you shit skeleton
03:19:04 Piecewise: no~
03:19:15 Devastator: I like happerary's orders. I get to roll to see if his mad scientist forgets what the goal is.
03:20:38 Devastator: So is the made in the abyss movie following the actions after the end of the anime series?
03:23:03 Piecewise: Yep
03:23:08 Piecewise: its a direct continuation
03:23:14 Piecewise: picks up immediately after
03:23:56 Devastator: mmm.
03:24:12 Devastator: does it end the adventures of Safe?
03:24:26 Piecewise: Its the third of three movies, with the first two basically just being the entire tv series in movie form, with a few extra scenes here and there, such as showing Lyza and Ozen together with Lyza's husband, and the original discovery of the island where the abyss is
03:24:48 Piecewise: Of riko you mean? Guess you'll have to see
03:25:59 Devastator: I mean the girl who is always safe, hence the name.
03:28:54 Devastator: is her name Riko?
03:29:28 ER: ...yes
03:29:50 ER: I feel like that's pretty obvious if you're not willfully ignoring it
03:30:11 Devastator: I'm bad with names.
03:32:15 ER: also, https://killsixbilliondemons.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/KOS177.jpg
03:32:18 ER: big dood
03:33:23 Devastator: mmm, can't read that, ATM. Her site takes too much internet.
03:34:21 ER: there's a big guy with a really hot sword, and also more swords and a bow and armor and he's an invincible wargod
03:34:51 ER: he showed up and killed everyone in the arena with an explosion and that's the end of the book
03:35:26 Piecewise: I will not look at k6bd anymore
03:35:57 Devastator: hmm?
03:37:03 Piecewise: Kill six billion demons
03:37:10 Piecewise: I no looky anymore
03:37:13 ER: just him having [bad tastes!]
03:38:51 Devastator: Nah, it didn't seem that great to me either. Some good looking huge poster-style scenes, though.
03:39:07 ER: jaggy looks cool
03:42:59 Piecewise: The series has really great designs so I always want to try to get into it but I never can
03:43:08 Piecewise: I have bounced off it like 8 times now
03:43:12 Piecewise: so I've given up
03:44:04 Devastator: No worries.
03:44:27 Devastator: Also, Nova features a pirate war between factions called the Association of Free Traders and the Guild of Free Traders.
03:45:00 Piecewise: sounds like something from that movie Brazil
03:46:36 Devastator: one is basically unlicensed smuggling and warships. The other is outright pirates.
03:46:51 Devastator: Sorry.
03:47:03 Devastator: it's the Association of Free Traders and the Associated Guild of Free Traders.
03:47:06 Devastator: Because of course.
03:48:05 Piecewise: Associated guild?
03:48:09 Piecewise: seems redundant
03:48:23 Piecewise: let me know when the Unassociated guild comes around
03:50:50 Devastator: mmm
03:50:52 Devastator: "After much argument you discover that the main saving of mass and energy in this poorer cousin of the Thorium reactors in Federation Carriers and the new models of Starbridge is in its radiation shielding and reaction-containing walls. While it should work, if things go wrong, it may result in a rather large expanding ball of gas that you will end up being a part of."
03:51:02 Devastator: That sounds rather unassociated. Or disassociated.
03:51:13 Piecewise: Dislocated
03:51:43 Devastator: Ahh, there it is, I was looking for it.
03:51:46 Devastator: "Warning klaxons sound as the safeguards on your Thorium Reactor begin to catastrophically fail. As explosions engulf your ship, you curse yourself for buying a cheap knock-off instead of the real thing..."
03:52:25 Devastator: the description for the 'bomb' varient of the cheap one, when it blows up, which it does so randomly after about five seconds after entering a system. Someone was able to get to Sheall in five seconds after warping in, presumably.
03:52:41 Devastator: the place that'll buy anything.
03:53:36 Piecewise: Its too bad the place doesn't just explode after you sell it
03:53:51 Devastator: Those old tinkers must be pretty good.
03:56:58 Piecewise: "Ah, another literally exploding reactor. Let me get the hex wrenches"
03:59:37 Devastator: "You just gotta have one of these little gizmos and it's all right.
04:12:02 ER: https://youtu.be/sWF_8dw0zdQ
04:14:16 Piecewise: By the definition of wet, lava is
04:14:47 ER: would you be willing to argue that case to pheonix wright
04:15:58 Piecewise: Phoenix wright lost his license so yes.
04:15:59 Devastator: ..isn't lava not wet by the definition of wet, because it can't wet anything?
04:16:15 Piecewise: Wet apparently means just "Saturated in liquid"
04:16:34 Devastator: yeah.. and I can't imagine lava being good at doing that.
04:17:03 Piecewise: i mean if something survives the heat there's no reason it can't be covered in lava and thus saturated
04:18:41 Devastator: I'm not sure lava is good at that, though. Some liquids are really bad at saturating other objects.
04:18:47 Devastator: some are a lot wetter than others.
04:19:00 Devastator: What's the surface tension of lava?
04:19:42 Piecewise: Not sure.
04:19:50 Piecewise: surface tension and density are different
04:20:06 Piecewise: I think lava has high density, low surface tension
04:20:53 Piecewise: water's surface tension is due to its molecular properties after all
04:21:20 Devastator: Yeah, maybe.
04:21:37 Devastator: I really don't know the wetting capabilities of lava.
04:21:48 Devastator: Also, syv, get over here if you read this and are available.
04:25:56 ER: this one's good too https://youtu.be/7IyosocOckY
04:27:07 Devastator: Always strikes me just how broad Phoenix Wright is.
04:27:15 Devastator: those be some serious shoulders.
04:34:48 Piecewise: He's bench pressing the law
04:35:05 Piecewise: Dang it sy
04:35:26 Piecewise: I even walked away from the computer
04:35:38 Piecewise: thought that was the perfect way to get you to show up
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04:37:14 Devastator: Hey IO.
04:37:25 IronyOwl: hey dev
04:37:34 Piecewise: Quick
04:37:36 IronyOwl: you ready to watch some children suffer?
04:37:40 Piecewise: shout at Sy
04:37:44 Piecewise: until he comes
04:38:02 Devastator: I don't think Safe understands the meaning of suffering.
04:38:31 IronyOwl: @syv jets are shit imma buy some AC-130s
04:38:36 Piecewise: I mean she did bleed from the eyes after getting a spike through her hand and then undergo a failed amputation
04:38:52 Piecewise: more suffering than I've had I'd say
04:39:08 Devastator: I know! And she's still like happy.
04:39:13 IronyOwl: then again, she was unconscious or semi-unconscious for much of it
04:39:33 IronyOwl: I think that's just her unnatural compulsion to seek the bottom
04:39:49 IronyOwl: no time to be sad about both her legs being torn off, she's got places to be!!!
04:40:09 Piecewise: I mean she's pretty chipper even in bad times
04:40:41 IronyOwl: reg is the one I'm worried about
04:40:41 ER: riko is a zombie who doesn't understand how to be sad, okay
04:40:47 Piecewise: fair
04:40:54 IronyOwl: his squishy pet keeps hurling herself into sharp things
04:42:07 Devastator: man, life would suck if you litearlly could not go uphill.
04:42:16 Devastator: how far down do they go before they can't do that?
04:42:37 IronyOwl: wanna say level 4, but I don't remember the details
04:42:59 IronyOwl: also they know one level is basically lethal to get back up, but then they know what happens when you get back up from the next one down IIRC
04:43:04 IronyOwl: so there may be some wriggle room
04:43:12 Piecewise: going from 6 to 5 is when you either turn into a pile of meat or a furry
04:43:22 IronyOwl: what's the difference
04:43:31 Piecewise: 7 to 6 is instant death
04:44:13 ER: furry!
04:44:23 IronyOwl: syyyyyyyyyyyv I'm getting all hyped about this living sea creature dungeon thingy
04:44:49 ER: I could ping him but watching you suffer is funny
04:45:14 IronyOwl: I doubt he's dragging his feet anyway
04:45:27 IronyOwl: if he's not here yet he's probably still got yetis to fight off or something
04:46:16 ER: methhead barbarians with bad guns riding rabies-infected alligators
04:46:54 IronyOwl: so florida
04:47:26 ER: of course
04:47:49 Devastator: what's 8 to 7? Instant death, or is there something worse?
04:47:58 Devastator: and do they just turn off the machine at the bottom or something?
04:56:17 Piecewise: the deepest we know is 7
04:56:48 Piecewise: and even that we barely know about
04:56:52 Devastator: mmm.
04:57:00 Devastator: any name?
04:57:13 Piecewise: final maelstrom if I remember right
04:57:46 Devastator: That sounds last.
04:58:05 Piecewise: well its the last one the delvers who named it know of
04:58:14 Devastator: Also, any bet on the open top layer becoming the next layer 1 as the whole planet is slowly crushed into the god machine?
04:58:23 Devastator: ie, the inhabited layer up there?
04:58:33 Piecewise: *shrug*
04:58:58 Piecewise: We know that there is a cycle of deaths connected to the abyss
04:59:12 Piecewise: every 2000 years or so there seems to be a massive die off around it
04:59:19 Devastator: mmm
04:59:31 Piecewise: and it was discovered 1900ish years ago
05:02:19 Devastator: rediscovered, I'm assuming.
05:02:28 Piecewise: yes
05:02:47 Piecewise: there seems to have been a succession of civilizations around it
05:03:00 Piecewise: what with the windmills and such
05:03:07 Piecewise: and the bodies found praying
05:03:10 Devastator: and bodies.
05:05:36 Piecewise: There's also more info deeper down about such things
05:08:49 Devastator: mmm
05:08:55 Devastator: we should get started soonish.
05:09:33 Piecewise: we gonna just abandon sy?
05:09:59 Devastator: I thought he'd be here.
05:10:18 Piecewise: guess we'll se
05:18:06 Piecewise: so whats our time cut off here?
05:18:25 ER: I don't have one
05:20:29 IronyOwl: I am also good whenever
05:20:43 IronyOwl: I also have no idea when syv normally gets on
05:20:55 Piecewise: before now I think
05:22:43 Devastator: Varies. Now would be fairly common. An hour earlier would be common too.
05:22:46 Devastator: Or an hour later.
05:23:17 ER: wouldn't be surprised if he's having a big sleep right now
05:23:22 Piecewise: Is sy somewhere in the damn pacific ocean?
05:23:38 Devastator: he works nights, IIRC.
05:24:48 Devastator: At the half hour?
05:25:57 Piecewise: Cause I got posts and school work tomorrow so I don't want to stay up forever. Though I also don't want to watch the movie without sy if we can manage it
05:26:14 ER: then wait till he's on
05:27:44 IronyOwl: brb
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05:35:34 Devastator: mmm
05:36:14 IronyOwl: me n ER are unaffected, so I think it's your and pw's call
05:37:22 Devastator: I'd like to see it tonight, and probably in the next hour or so.
05:43:47 Piecewise: If we're gonna do it with out him, lets wait till the hour and then start
05:44:00 Devastator: ok.
05:44:01 Piecewise: its...10:43 here so 17 minutes
05:44:08 Devastator: I think he wanted to wait for the dub in any case.
05:44:54 IronyOwl: PLEBIAN
05:45:38 Piecewise: indeed
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05:47:30 MJ: Lo
05:47:30 Devastator: Hey MJ.
05:47:33 MJ: Hiya Dev
05:47:41 Devastator: up for a quick movie, if you can download it in like 15 minutes?
05:47:59 IronyOwl: it's about children being eaten by clams!
05:48:05 MJ: Ah sadly I don’t have my computer on me.
05:48:15 Devastator: Shouldn't go with those wearables.
05:48:23 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
05:48:26 Devastator: if it isn't werable, you wouldn't need it on you to use it!
05:48:28 ER: hi
05:48:29 Devastator: Ayy! Syv.
05:48:34 syv: I was asked to come. Just woke up.
05:48:46 MJ: Heh.
05:48:49 syv: And okay, Irony said it's the MiA movie.
05:48:51 Devastator: Safe: The movie?
05:48:53 MJ: Also hiya Irony
05:48:56 IronyOwl: hey
05:48:58 syv: No. I don't have it.
05:49:02 MJ: How’re you?
05:49:05 IronyOwl: D:
05:49:16 IronyOwl: I'm good
05:49:25 IronyOwl: probably won't be once the suffering begins, but oh well~
05:49:35 syv: Need to torrent it, and I didn't set up my computer today after getting home from work. I prioritized sleeping.
05:49:43 Devastator: mmm, nuts.
05:49:44 MJ: That’s good. Pandemic not treating you too poorly I hope?
05:49:47 ER: smart, syv
05:49:49 IronyOwl: naw, it's fine
05:49:53 ER: sleep is the best
05:50:33 MJ: Oh hey a dubs.
05:50:46 Piecewise: yes
05:50:46 MJ: Hiya piecewise
05:50:52 MJ: How’re you?
05:51:17 Piecewise: I knew this would happen
05:51:22 Piecewise: I told ya Irony
05:51:28 Piecewise: I warned ya
05:51:30 IronyOwl: ayup
05:51:32 Piecewise: about the sy
05:51:37 Piecewise: it keeps happening~
05:51:42 Piecewise: I'm alright MJ
05:51:50 MJ: I mean Murphy’s law is pretty much the detention of how our movie nights happen.
05:52:01 MJ: Good to hear. How was that wedding?
05:52:37 Piecewise: Pretty good me thinks. Everything went off without a hitch. Except for the getting hitched that is
05:53:07 MJ: Heh. Cool
05:53:37 MJ: I’ve been doing med school applications.
05:53:44 MJ: Been a fucking mess.
05:53:50 Piecewise: School always is
05:54:10 MJ: True
05:54:40 Piecewise: It always staggers me how completely disorganized and incompetent they can be.
05:55:34 IronyOwl: I'm sure you can trust them to give you a quality education, though :3
05:55:51 MJ: Yeah. Somehow the med school application breaks if you have a tab in you essay. So that was a fun thing to figure out how to force everything into plain text.
05:55:58 Piecewise: Not really. But they give me the degree that lets me learn on my own
05:56:02 IronyOwl: dear god
05:56:41 Piecewise: I still don't know how fucking colleges can be so technologically inept like that
05:56:50 Piecewise: Unable to open rar files
05:57:04 IronyOwl: yeah, it's baffling
05:57:13 Piecewise: having their own online programs flagging their other programs as spam
05:57:13 IronyOwl: like... they have a computer science program
05:57:40 IronyOwl: how does a place that's supposed to collect smart computer people to have them teach other smart computer people have no idea how to make a website?
05:57:50 syv: Because they aren't.
05:57:56 syv: Have you taken any comp sci classes?
05:57:59 IronyOwl: it's beyond horrifying and into genuinely fascinating
05:58:03 IronyOwl: well, yes
05:58:04 Piecewise: I mean the people running my program are literally working with linear accelerators
05:58:11 IronyOwl: "smart" is an overstatement, but some of the teachers are great
05:58:18 syv: All of my comp sci teachers were idiots.
05:58:36 Piecewise: whats the ETA on the torrent by the way sy?
05:58:40 IronyOwl: my condolences
05:58:43 syv: Tomorrow, probably.
05:58:48 IronyOwl: one of mine, uh... couldn't speak english
05:58:58 Devastator: Because most people are average, and the really, really smart people are crazy in some way, usually.
05:59:02 IronyOwl: like, she could speak it well enough to give the lecture, but not well enough to answer student questions
06:00:06 IronyOwl: fortunately other students knew enough to answer those questions, but then that just points to other stupid nonsense in their whole system, since apparently people are being forced to take the class who already know it well enough to teach it
06:00:21 MJ: Hey that was like one of my chem proffesors. Except I both couldn’t understand him and he always assumed that answer was so obvious there was no need to show his work.
06:00:24 Piecewise: Ugh
06:00:29 Piecewise: well I guess tonight is a bust then
06:00:38 IronyOwl: sadness
06:01:07 IronyOwl: we shall have to watch ants enthusiastically colonizing a pitcher plant some other time
06:01:24 Devastator: Mmm, I suppose.
06:01:30 Piecewise: I'm going to bed then
06:01:33 Piecewise: night
06:01:34 Devastator: ok
06:01:37 IronyOwl: night boneman
06:01:39 MJ: Night dubs
06:01:44 syv: Night.
06:02:03 ER: too many dings
06:02:11 Devastator: see ya boneman.
06:02:34 ER: need some of you to leave to restore this place's nice cosy atmosphere
06:03:01 MJ: I actually did once have a professor who I only sorta understand but still somehow learned the course without much extra effort. I think it was like subliminal learning or something.
06:03:37 MJ: ....or just he had really good powerpoints. One of the two.
06:03:55 syv: I can kick people, ER.
06:04:09 syv: Hey, why can't you?
06:04:12 syv: `op ER
06:04:13 mode/#einsteinianroulette [+o ER] by ChanServ!chanserv@services.darkmyst.org
06:04:28 ER: do you seriously trust me with literally any power
06:04:59 IronyOwl: oh yeah
06:05:02 syv: No, but I can remove it because I'm founder.
06:05:12 IronyOwl: also had a teacher who barred any electronics from the classroom
06:05:13 syv: Can someone send the MiA torrent link?
06:05:19 syv: Genius.
06:05:23 MJ: Hahahahahaha
06:05:38 MJ: How did that work out?
06:05:55 syv: (ER) magnet:?xt=urn:btih:07c6b57baeed8cf3e9475edcc7d5bb3a8fd14c3e&dn=%5bSAD%5d%20Made%20in%20Abyss%20-%20Dawn%20of%20the%20Deep%20Soul%20%5bBD%5d%5b1080p%5d%5bHEVC10%5d%5bFLAC2.0%5dv0.mkv&tr=http%3a%2f%2fnyaa.tracker.wf%3a7777%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.stealth.si%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3
06:05:57 IronyOwl: she was crap overall, so I guess predictably?
06:05:59 syv: (ER) a%2f%2fexodus.desync.com%3a6969%2fannounce
06:06:30 IronyOwl: IIRC the class itself was pretty cool but she managed to make it obnoxious
06:07:00 MJ: I see. I once had an Ochem proffesor who liked you less the more you came to his office hours.
06:07:13 IronyOwl: "How dare you bother me, peasant"
06:07:21 Devastator: ahh, laziness.
06:07:25 syv: 20h
06:07:44 MJ: Pretty much. He also scaled tests based largely on how much he liked you.
06:08:50 IronyOwl: "My grading, like this class' subject matter, is arbitrary and stupid and hates you specifically, yet you can't do without it."
06:09:10 syv: I had an English II professor who hated me, presumably because I disagreed with him on character analysis. I had the second-worst grades of anyone in the class.
06:10:31 MJ: Heh. I had a freshman year bio proffesor who loved me despite me being 5 mintues late and at least mildly hungover pretty much every other class. Dude was awesome.
06:12:18 MJ: His extra credit was having the class go bird watching with him and other extra credit was watching nature documentaries and writing about their film techniques and if they were a useful educational tool or focused too much on drama.
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06:13:16 MJ: Hmm, pleasant memories drive syv away. Handy. :P
06:13:57 syv: More that I was on cellular, and walked into the other side of the house, where I get no reception.
06:14:27 MJ: Ah.
06:15:03 MJ: Did you guys ever have a class taught by a grad student who had no idea what they were doing?
06:15:07 ER: *tired*
06:15:36 IronyOwl: mmm, had two that seemed new
06:15:59 IronyOwl: one was pretty good, the other was boring and had weird neurotic rules about covering her tracks
06:16:05 IronyOwl: she didn't post her slides online, for instance
06:16:11 ER: I've had very few classes which were remotely helpful, and none of the ones I was actually playing for were
06:17:04 syv: Can't recall any taught by grad students.
06:17:06 syv: Most were entirely useless.
06:17:18 syv: Speech was actually amazing.
06:18:09 Devastator: mmm
06:21:07 MJ: I had one who was not only teaching an upper level course but it was his very first time teaching any class that wasn’t a lab. And he was maybe 5 years older than most of the class? Tops. This was the same guy who only realized that canvas hadn’t been giving any partial credit after the final exam while I was arguing with him about a question.
06:21:38 syv: AND he was argumentative, joy.
06:22:12 Devastator: heh.
06:22:43 Devastator: my last class was quite good and I was taught by someone who had practical experience in something like twenty different places around the province, who was taking a few years out of his career to teach.
06:23:08 Devastator: And the other half of the class drew someone with zero practical experience and limited teaching ability.
06:23:58 MJ: I was just happy that it was during the first round of COVID when all the universities went pass fail so I could convert the bullshit C he gave into a pass. The class average with the scale was 73.
06:26:02 MJ: That is unfortunate dev.
06:26:16 syv: TBF, that probably reflected his own incompetency in communicating the info.
06:26:49 Devastator: hey, I was in the good half, so..
06:26:57 MJ: Heh true.
06:30:44 MJ: I kinda had something like that. My genetics class was taught by two professors who swapped every other day. One half was taught by the proffesor I do reaserch for and is ducking awesome. The other half was taight by a proffesor who was in her second trimester of preganancy and somewhat irritable as a result. Guess which one did all the grading.
06:32:24 MJ: Did well but god that class was much harder the nessecary.
06:34:55 Devastator: hah.
06:34:57 syv: Why do we need heavy grading in education, again?
06:36:35 MJ: Not sure. Though I do have a professor this semester who has accidentally made every test open book.
06:37:54 syv: Accidentally?
06:38:13 Devastator: I'm in a profession where screwing up badly can end up killing people.
06:39:33 MJ: He wanted to make a proctored test. But chose a testing service that doesn’t do video monteribg and just locks your computer screen. And you take the test at home. So pretty much if you have a phone, spare computer, helpful friend, or just a textbook it’s pretty much open notes.
06:40:36 MJ: His response on learning this was a eh, I guess it’s fine, I trust people not to cheat.
06:41:16 syv: Oh yeah, most of my online classes were like that.
06:41:32 syv: They'd have you download a special "lockdown browser".
06:41:40 MJ: Yup. Same thing.
06:41:42 ER: so it installs malware but doesn't keep you from looking at a book
06:42:11 syv: I never actually tried, but I'm pretty sure the lockdown could easily be circumvented.
06:42:18 syv: If nothing else a VM should work fine.
06:43:01 MJ: I’m sure pretty sure pretty much any Anti cheating software could be subverted with a modicum of effort.
06:43:57 syv: Yeah, pretty much.
06:44:14 ER: I'm tired
06:44:22 syv: Lockdown Browser's indeed particularly notable just because... you have a book.
06:44:39 syv: I wonder how many students don't actually cheat.
06:44:51 MJ: I try not to.
06:45:29 ER: there's always that sweet spot of "I don't trust you, but I also don't care enough to actually stop you from being dishonest"
06:45:29 syv: But the grade's still more important than honesty, ey?
06:48:02 MJ: Lemme put it this way. I would never not study and then cheat in regardless of fits an online or in person class. But if it’s an online course and the class average is somehow a 91? Then that changes things.
06:49:22 Piecewise has been kicked by ER!ER@444-989-172-914.res.spectrum.com [Kick!]
06:49:30 ER: heh heh, hilarious
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06:51:57 Devastator: Dammit ER.
06:52:02 Devastator: PW never remembers to join.
06:56:13 syv: `deop er
06:56:19 syv is now known as er
06:56:25 er: ?
06:56:29 er is now known as syv
06:56:57 MJ: This now far too confusing for me.
06:57:18 Devastator: confuzzled!
07:05:23 Devastator: updated extinction, since no movie.
07:05:41 Devastator: No sessha for this place.
07:05:46 Devastator: kids alone.
07:14:43 MJ: Night gents
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07:15:28 syv: :(
07:16:24 Devastator: eh, we'll watch the movie tomorrow.
07:16:28 Devastator: the continued adventures of safe.
07:16:46 IronyOwl: hurl herself in blender -> get pulled out by reg -> repeat
07:19:06 Devastator: pretty much.
07:20:23 Devastator: the entertainment comes from guessing what the next blender will be.
07:20:26 Devastator: ;-p
07:21:55 syv: I wonder how CoE is coming.
07:22:50 Devastator: CoE?
07:23:00 syv: Call of Earth
07:25:08 Devastator: that the game PW was thinking about based on it, right?
07:25:45 syv: Yes.
07:53:27 Devastator: Strike the earth!
08:01:18 Devastator: I might join that.
08:34:16 Devastator: hmm.
08:34:22 Devastator: any bets as to what the next blender will be?
08:37:26 Devastator: some vicious level 5 monsters?
08:37:29 IronyOwl: assuming the movie picks up where the series left off, they're headed for the mad scientist's lab
08:37:55 IronyOwl: so probably another encounter like the armored chick, where he demonstrates that he's a psychopath who's fairly amenable to their quest
08:37:59 IronyOwl: and they carry on as usual
08:39:57 Devastator: divers are supposed to mutate, right?
08:40:27 Devastator: There was tall girl, and safe's mother had too much hair. Wonder what's with the mad scientist then.
08:40:35 IronyOwl: I think he has a tail
08:40:56 IronyOwl: he's all encased in a suit, though, so it's hard to figure out much more than that
08:41:00 Devastator: mmm
08:41:08 Devastator: maybe albino or something then.
08:47:59 Devastator: maybe he'll give them a robot pet or something.
08:51:05 IronyOwl: maybe, but they already have a robot pet :p
08:55:22 Devastator: too humanoid.
08:55:25 Devastator: I'm thinking bird.
08:55:40 Devastator: or squid-thing.
09:13:14 syv: I think he
09:13:24 syv: 'll be straight villain.
09:13:31 syv: A challenge for them to fight and overcome.
09:13:48 syv: Also, bunny will accompany them, and three is a large enough party.
09:14:56 Devastator: Three is enough.
09:15:05 Devastator: but four is also enough, while not yet being too many.
09:15:12 Devastator: yeah, could be like that.
09:25:13 Devastator: saeko's fighting a thousand robots next turn in Cabal.
09:28:03 Devastator: wonder if dubs was expecting me to take that fight.
09:28:05 Devastator shrugs.
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14:24:24 Piecewise: I see I was kicked last night
14:46:01 Devastator: ER's was being a jackass.
15:23:02 Piecewise: such is the power of ER
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