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06:59:27 syv: I'd recommend offhand murakumo with magic shield, though.
06:59:45 syv: It has one of the best offhand attacks in the game, and is a good shield.
07:00:02 syv: Plus catalysts are light, so its high weight isn't so much trouble.
07:00:22 ER: I wonder how many people would be thrown off by putting magic shield on a weapon, get confused and think it's magic weapon
07:00:45 ER: and of course
syv would say use the murakumo
07:01:52 syv: It wouldn't be very exploitable with the rapier, since attacking through a parry is still not terrible, but with the murakumo it might be quite powerful. Since attacking into a weapon block is a great way to get a stamina lead normally.
07:02:08 syv: That assumes magic shield is enough to offset a weapon block's general weakness, though.
07:02:54 ER: I mean, it's enough to make small shields block 100% and can get "infinite" stability, so it's not a bad buff to that
07:03:25 syv: Also! It's not just me! The 'kumo is legit an amazing offhand weapon. It has almost everything--speed, reach, dead angles, damage, block. No parry, and it's heavy. Those are the only weaknesses.
07:04:56 ER: so you're saying you have mainstream tastes?
07:05:24 ER: I like the wooden greatshield, I think it's called dual eagle?
07:05:36 ER: heavy deflection and gettable before sens
07:05:51 syv: Sadly deflection isn't a thing in PvP. :(
07:06:19 syv: Iron round shield also has heavy deflect, can get it from Shiva. I forget if you have to murder him, though.
07:06:32 syv: Yeah. No shielf deflects happen in PvP.
07:06:37 ER: some of the heavy deflection animations on enemies are hilarious though
07:08:36 ER: is deflection at least a mechanic in DS2 pvp?
07:08:52 syv: Knowing DS2, probably, yeah.
07:10:56 ER: when are they gonna remake DS1 with DS2 mechanics >:(
07:12:04 ER: Elden Ring, I'm sure will be its own thing
07:12:27 ER: hopefully not just DS3 again, I didn't care for that one so much
07:13:13 ER: always happy for new things! Also happy for better versions of old things. Too bad the demon's souls remake is an exclusive
07:14:02 ER: will be interesting to see how they handle that one though. Maybe more fun to see, because I won't have to worry about it being bad :p
07:18:21 syv: I'd figure they'd just do the same thing they did with DaS.
07:18:35 syv: Since *that* got a bunch of cash for little effort, why not do the same with DeS?
07:18:49 ER: it's a remake, not a remaster
07:19:36 ER: by the studio which did the shadow of the collosus remake, which apparrently people liked
07:20:04 syv: I wonder if they'll eventually make a SotC remake for PC...
07:20:39 ER: also I think probably no overlap with the people who did DaSR, because iirc they're different publishers and From aren't really involved with either project
07:24:05 ER: we still don't really know anything about elden ring, do we?
07:24:26 ER: except that it involves H A N D S
07:33:51 syv: It involves lots of stuff!
07:34:17 syv: Have you seen Nuckelavee, Terror of the Forlorn Shores?
07:34:33 syv: A pretty amazing boss fight.
07:36:51 ER: I don't think that counts as actual info though...
07:38:09 Devastator: heya, was elsewhere.
07:43:06 syv: It's all we're getting, sadly.
07:43:23 syv: That's my desktop wallpaper, btw.
07:46:44 Devastator: horse sized wolf would be better. ;-p
07:46:56 Devastator: well, that was my first impression upon seeing that.
07:47:08 Devastator: I don't think it'd work, you like to block and roll and such..
07:47:20 Devastator: but you could make an action game with mounts.
07:47:25 syv: It worked for Twilight Princess.
07:48:05 syv: Also, I think if a Fromsoft fighting game gets mounts, there will be at least one suitably weird mount.
07:48:17 syv: If we're lucky, it'll be a dog with a sword in its mouth.
07:49:23 Devastator: Personally I'd think it would be more entertaining if it's as normal as possible compared to all the bizarre monsters and such.
07:49:28 ER: I invade your world riding a giant bird with a man's face which spits blighttown ooze
07:50:18 syv: I figure mounts, if included, mostly *will* be very normal and average.
07:50:29 syv: But they'll just have one that's really out there.
07:50:51 syv: Like armor and weapons in the games--mostly pretty reasonable, except for the occasional really out-there things.
07:51:45 ER: might be fun if it's pretty open world to have a loftwing
07:53:13 syv: I don't think I want flight in a Fromsoft game. They do really really good world design, but it'll be a lot harder to do that well with true flight.
07:53:55 Devastator: oh yes, imagine how small the game would be if you could fly in it.
07:54:37 ER: well, if you get it a ways into the game and there's a large underground, it wouldn't unlock many things all at once and would have a nice feeling of exploration as you can get at cut-off areas
07:55:05 ER: or have some big fights getting at some areas because there's anti-air enemies or whatever
07:58:00 Devastator: Hmm, what was that game..
07:58:28 Devastator: the incredibly tedious fighting game where you alternated fighting on foot and fighting on dragon, because there were plenty of red anti-air enemies around.
08:04:53 Devastator: never before or since has anyone made a game where doing such was so utterly boring.
08:04:57 ER: I watched a little bit of drakengard 3. looked wild in a pretty fun way
08:06:25 Devastator: The issue was that the levels took forever.
08:06:34 Devastator: it'd be fun for five minutes. Or ten minutes.
08:06:34 ER: heard that 1 was very teidious though
08:06:43 Devastator: Ahh, maybe just that one then.
08:08:34 syv: I wonder if I'll ever play robutt game.
08:09:02 syv: I want to, but I haven't played games much lately...
08:10:02 Devastator: huh, I thought you had.
08:15:51 ER: play game, read comic, update ps
08:17:35 syv: I can't even dance on my *own* strings. :\
08:18:05 ER: surely mine are more suitable then
08:18:36 ER: you puppet me and I'll puppet you and we'll get through this~
08:48:22 ER: got some pictures of a fluffy moth in my room just now
08:48:34 ER: but they're not great quality, probably not enough light
09:00:50 GameServ:
ER rolled 3d6: 6 3 4 <Total: 13>
09:02:20 syv: I would not complain about moth pics
09:03:20 syv: Nav sent me a friend request on Steam.
09:03:33 syv: Not sure why, I haven't spoken to Nav since
ER days, I don't think.
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09:06:31 Devastator: that's one ugly moth.
09:06:54 Devastator: although that's just the ones that come out of tent caterpillars, right?
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09:07:18 ER: I unno. it's bigger than most
09:12:55 Devastator: although these are the ones we get up here.
09:16:05 Devastator: oh, updated extinction.
09:16:18 Devastator: got family coming over the next few days, so k-com is on hold. Did more work, though.
09:16:22 Devastator: I'll get it done before friday.
09:17:57 Devastator: shrine description.
09:20:02 GameServ:
ER rolled 3d6: 6 4 1 <Total: 11>
09:25:33 ER: what did you THINK gnomes used? :p
09:26:11 Devastator: magic or fancy gizmos.
09:26:22 Devastator: didn't you listen to the masterwork weapons gnome? ;-p
09:28:10 Devastator: a couple strips later you can see them firing round bullets.
09:28:17 ER: these have been the rules for a long time
09:28:32 ER: you lose mass from living, and mass only comes from living things
09:29:12 ER: and you lose *mind* alongside mass, because your mind lives all throughout your body
09:29:34 ER: lose enough and your will will no longer constrain your body
09:30:02 ER: and besides, in this state you will not be smart enough to communicate meaningfully
09:30:40 syv: How can I cuddle if I need to eat my friends constantly?
10:25:30 syv: That's really a pretty good big woof
10:25:38 syv: Odd that a stick figure comic has good art.
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10:55:32 syv: ...Why *don't* the gods just send their high priests to kill Xykon?
10:55:50 ER: "the bad news is that this is a scroll of Locate Creature- which is a completely useless spell in the current situation. The good news is that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing."
10:55:56 Devastator: because they have rules.
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10:56:05 Devastator: Also, one sent Durkon Thundershield.
10:56:10 ER: I mean, they're all kinda busy being at the godsmoot
10:56:33 Devastator: also, that big woof basically is alida-sized.
10:56:42 Devastator: given how small Belkar is.
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10:56:56 syv: Seems like they're all pretty supportive of containing the snarl and considering thing. 'Cept for, like, Hel.
10:57:02 ER: they seem to have pretty limited ability to communicate with their clerics, and the north pole is a long way to travel on short notice
10:58:02 syv: They can gate around freely!
10:58:24 syv: Also, I presume that locate creature scroll gets miscast?
10:59:35 Devastator: there are other gods in favor of blowing up the world.
10:59:40 Devastator: and trying again next time.
11:07:23 syv: ...Yeah, and I guess the whole "mutual laziness" thing comes into play.
11:07:44 syv: Gods send people to prevent the world from ending, other gods send theirs to ensure it.
11:08:16 syv: ...But then, the majority seems heavily in favor of "snarl bad, pls stop it"
11:08:35 syv: Even most of those voting for "destroy" voted because it's the safer option.
11:09:01 ER: like I said, all the high preists are currently physically barred from leaving that temple
11:09:40 Devastator: yes, they don't want the snarl freed, but if the world is destroyed and the snarl freed, they get to try out their new ideas on the next world.
11:10:10 ER: I guess, technically, some lesser rando clerics could plausably show up to try and beat up the lich, but that would just clutter the narrative
11:10:31 ER: and we've been told that the bad guys are attacked by rando heros offscreen, too
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13:36:09 syv: Mm. There's an idea; play a wizard with max points in Knowledge (Theology) for the express point of winning arguments with the team cleric.
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