ERLOG 2020-07-11

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00:08:45 Devastator: heya er.
00:41:37 Devastator: any k-com questions?
00:41:42 Devastator: good to see you.
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04:14:22 Devastator: heya syv.
04:14:37 syv: heya dev.
04:16:39 er: Helo
04:18:58 syv: Hiya!
04:34:38 er: Heay kuf
04:34:45 syv: Ah, yes.
04:34:54 syv: I think I'll drop the sniper and just charge into the house.
04:35:05 syv: Leave my allies to deal with the fucky tear in reality.
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04:43:54 Elastic_Ridicule: oh yes
04:44:07 Elastic_Ridicule: good sad song https://youtu.be/8AcI63WicNI
04:44:17 Elastic_Ridicule is now known as ER
04:52:51 syv: The electronic warble REALLY bugs me
04:53:14 ER: rip
04:54:31 Devastator: warble
04:56:23 syv: I quite like it aside from that.
04:56:28 syv: Lyrics.
04:57:26 ER: "have you ever wanted to feel" is a good pop song line, and "anything at all" is the most despressing phrase to put after that. :P
04:57:42 syv: Depression!
04:57:49 ER: yesh
05:13:59 syv: Hrm. FF7 songs by MoS.
05:14:25 syv: ...Yep, remake of the game.
05:14:52 ER: you didn't know there was a ff7 remake?
05:15:05 syv: Nope!
05:15:14 ER: it seems to be good
05:15:14 syv: Do you think I pay attention to such things?
05:15:31 syv: Wasn't the original FF7 good?
05:15:41 ER: I just assume you're smarter than me and therefore have all the knowledge I have, plus more~
05:15:56 syv: Uh.
05:15:59 syv: No?
05:16:01 ER: people seem to like the original
05:18:13 syv: I've never played it, don't think. The only one I can recall playing was on 3d a console and had very stripperific outfits. And an all-female party at least for the first dungeon, which was all I tried.
05:18:14 Devastator: I knew there was a FF7 remake, although that's only because they had to drop the running joke from the mechanica.
05:18:36 Devastator: I've played some of FF7.
05:18:37 ER: never played an FF
05:18:48 Devastator: but never got through it. Didn't have a PS.
05:19:33 syv: I don't much like either song.
05:19:41 syv: Definitely not the latest one.
05:20:34 syv: MJ gave me an idea for a Cabal 2 char.
05:20:50 syv: Meek medic who hops himself up on berserk drugs to fight.
05:21:09 syv: Just swallows a fistful of pills then starts beating everything to death.
05:21:36 ER: ?
05:21:45 syv: ??
05:22:03 ER: ???
05:22:43 syv: I was asking "Why ??", I.E. "What is your question?"
05:23:51 ER: cabal 2?
05:23:58 syv: Fuck
05:24:00 syv: Coven 2
05:24:04 syv: I keep doing that.
05:24:33 ER: oh. is that ever happening
05:24:51 syv: I'd actually be more eager for Coven 2 than Cabal 2. Coven was easier to post in.
05:24:55 syv: Maybe?
05:25:08 syv: NJW appears every now and then, so I have hope.
05:27:22 Devastator: sorry for being hard there.
05:27:35 Devastator: well, you could always go on berzerk drugs for Ekrov.
05:27:42 Devastator: saeko has chemical.
05:27:47 syv: No, not the right char for it.
05:27:47 Devastator: maybe make a living suit of power armour that you can drug up?
05:27:57 syv: Ekrov would be horrified by something like that.
05:27:59 ER: to be fair, we're basically on cabal 2 now
05:28:02 Devastator: yeah, fair point.
05:42:21 syv: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxs3g0Xgh7k
05:46:33 ER: bloop
05:46:39 ER: updated my journal
05:47:20 syv: I would like to play PS:T again. It would probably be smarter to play Disco Elysium.
05:47:23 syv: Did you finish that?
05:47:35 ER: no
05:47:44 ER: I'm terrible at finishing rpgs
05:48:08 syv: Aww
05:48:14 syv: Halfbaked review, then?
05:48:32 ER: [thumbs up emoji]
05:49:44 syv: Mm
05:49:49 syv: How about Nier Automata?
05:49:57 ER: !!!
05:50:20 ER: uh, like that but with large swords
05:59:26 Devastator: there are no large swords in that?
06:01:09 syv: He meant "[I] like that butt, with large swords".
06:01:32 ER: slander
06:01:48 syv: :3
06:02:04 ER: no u
06:02:37 syv: I feel very sorry for you, Eggo Reader. Butt appreciation is a wonderful part of life.
06:06:34 ER: maybe
06:15:02 ER: 2b or not 2b
06:16:48 syv: Eh
06:16:54 syv: Petra in Mami's outfit.
06:17:00 ER: who
06:17:05 syv: Petra Ral
06:17:12 Devastator: I bet there's plenty of outfit mods.
06:17:19 syv: One of the AoT chars, a specops girl who gets smashed against a tree.
06:17:28 syv: By the naked giant lady
06:17:34 ER: uh huh
06:20:48 syv: Wair
06:20:51 syv: That reminds me
06:20:54 syv: ER: https://mobile.twitter.com/Octobizzle/status/1075585587078254592
06:21:26 ER: cursed
06:21:51 syv: :3
06:32:19 ER: you're giving me a jet, right syv?
06:32:26 syv: Ah, yes
06:33:05 ER: does it have ERA?
06:33:10 syv: No.
06:33:20 syv: Snd ERA alone... well, it might be worth it on that jet.
06:33:32 syv: Armor doesn't matter if a hit kills outright.
06:34:01 syv: And serious attacks tend to make jets crumble. I've just gotten very lucky with recoveries, plus being military benefits me there.
06:34:46 syv: I think Dev said the FFGs increase *both* armor and durability, and most everything gets multiplicative benefits from being increased, so ERA + FFG would definitely be worthwhile. Assuming the FFG isn't too expensive.
06:41:50 syv: Oh, I have those SAM missiles.
06:42:13 syv: I bought them for minimum IIRC, and have just been keeping them there until we get info about a flier.
06:42:42 syv: I forget stats offhand, but I think they were pretty decent attacks... as long as the enemy is a flier.
06:43:00 ER: might be worth seeing if they're usable as point defense
06:43:37 syv: I don't have the infrastructure or funding to research that, but if you want to do it I'll happily ship them over.
06:43:58 ER: that BM unit sounds like it's very heavy armored for a medium, so it's probably worth stacking more armor on it :P
06:43:58 syv: Just don't equip them, they're useless if the Kaiju's not a flier.
06:44:07 syv: Yes, for both of them.
06:44:17 syv: The APC is equivalent to a modern tank.
06:44:36 syv: The heli is a step down in both armor and durability.
06:44:38 ER: between that and your jet, I'll have a good turn I think
06:44:51 syv: One can hope.
06:46:08 ER: oops
06:46:47 ER: not enough money for that. Do you mind if I pay you 200 for your jet rather than 250 so that I can build ERA?
06:46:57 ER: just noticed that I'm already over my limit
06:47:04 ER: I'll send you one.
06:47:07 syv: Uhh.
06:47:56 syv: ...Yeah, okay.
06:48:26 syv: I could just barely afford two jets if you pay 250, but then I'd have to bid dangerously low on a scientist.
06:48:50 syv: I should really demolish one of these large workshops.
06:48:52 ER: I'll pay you 213 :P
06:48:58 ER: that way I spend all my money
06:50:03 syv: Okay, cool.
06:50:23 syv: I'd rather the ERA get sold to someone with a tank though.
06:50:32 syv: Would be more useful.
06:50:58 syv: I'm going to be working on increased survivability for jets next, but that will come from longer range and more speed.
06:51:27 syv: They're not all that far out from being able to outrange most Kaiju weapons, and can already usually keep their distance.
06:55:11 Devastator: I didn't quite say that armour doesn't matter if a hit kills outright.
06:55:47 Devastator: It matters relatively less in that case, but it can save something that would just die fairly often.
06:55:47 syv: Sigh
06:55:56 Devastator: if it's facing massive overkill, yeah.
06:55:58 Devastator: it'll die.
06:56:18 Devastator: but it's not useless every time you get any strong hit.
06:56:55 syv: (Devastator) It matters relatively less in that case, but it can save something that would just die fairly often.
06:56:55 syv: Do you mean repairs? I.E. Armored jets are more likely to be recoverable, but not more likely to stay in the fight (assuming all hits would oneshot them regardless)?
06:57:30 syv: By "them regardless" I mean "regardless of whether they had the +1 armor".
06:57:53 Devastator: I mean stay in the fight. Not so much for the jet.
06:58:10 syv: :|
06:58:18 syv: Could you state that in a more confusing way?
06:58:19 Devastator: something tougher than a jet.. yeah, a bare one-shot more armour can certainly keep it in the fight.
06:58:53 Devastator: If the kaiju weapon tinks things to death the armour will help a lot.
06:59:02 Devastator: if it hits with missiles, it'll be basically worthless.
06:59:10 Devastator: in the former case expect it to stay in the fight more often.
06:59:20 syv: Ugh, okay, yes, I think I understand.
07:00:03 syv: If a hit would only ever deal the jet's full health in damage, and not ever only wound it, which most attacks do because jets are fragile... then armor is useless.
07:00:05 syv: Correct?
07:01:22 syv: My understanding was that even A armor wouldn't help jets very much. And E armor would help them barely ever, pretty much only for low damage splash attacks.
07:06:19 Devastator: Mmm, have to be over the full health. Full health exactly, yeah armour.
07:06:26 ER: it's nice being an intel org
07:06:40 Devastator: and if you get up to like A, maybe a bit more.
07:06:43 Devastator: but yeah, mostly useless.
07:06:49 ER: I get lots of scoops and it's not my job to figure out how this combat system works~
07:06:50 syv: THANK YOU.
07:07:00 syv: It's not my job either.
07:07:12 syv: I could just go "oh, yay, +1 power grade wheee"
07:07:15 Devastator: TBH, A would save a jet against many non-missile hits.
07:07:30 Devastator: but A is a big letter.
07:07:35 syv: But A in pretty much any other stat would be godly.
07:07:57 syv: A power or AP would mean the jet has a good chance of doing most of the kaiju killing work.
07:08:04 Devastator: Yeah. A modern tank with A should live through missiles.
07:08:10 syv: A range would mean damn near nothing can hit it.
07:08:42 syv: A speed... technically jets have that, I guess.
07:08:58 syv: Yeah, damn.
07:09:18 ER: intercontnental ballistic kaiju
07:10:18 syv: Yeah, jets ain't getting melee'd, that was a melee kaiju and it still only shot down jets with missiles.
07:10:30 syv: Just range buffing then.
07:12:30 ER: I'm gonna go back to sleep soon
07:13:10 syv: Do you want anything first?
07:13:28 Devastator: yeah, you don't need to worry about your jets getting meleed.
07:13:40 Devastator: unless one of them like rolls +3 melee or something.
07:13:43 Devastator: then it might happen.
07:13:47 Devastator: but that one won't have many guns.
07:14:23 syv: Egan, your catgirls are muscle and guts, right?
07:14:25 syv: Not skin?
07:14:27 ER: yea
07:14:40 syv: Then I should probably use skin bits for improved fighters.
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07:16:45 er: (Lurk Lurk)
07:16:55 syv: Heh
11:01:30 er: Boop
11:16:33 er: <3
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11:28:46 syv: <3
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17:56:40 Devastator: hmm.
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