00:37:17 Piecewise_: Word jades they got, healing item they have (mana to healing sort of thing) which also works for repair
00:38:27 Piecewise_: duplication they don't really have
00:39:05 Devastator: just means I'll take another word from the jade instead.
00:39:25 Piecewise_: you can just "Copy" words from the tablets
00:40:10 Devastator: oh, that's something then. I'll list the words I can try to add die sizes to, then. Not sure I want to change any out.
00:41:06 ER: maybe just ask permission to come back and look at them whenever
00:41:09 Devastator: probably ditch ape, so change that one.
00:41:57 Devastator: but yeah, keep a couple, maybe change out ape, (it isn't human, and I'd trade it in an instant for a heal or an actual human.)
00:42:05 Devastator: but other than that I doubt I'll lose any words.
00:42:50 Devastator: eh, nah, no need, they'll be on the list of ones to look at. Do want to keep some, though, so I can like have two empty slots and six word jades, which will do the work of six points in int I don't have.
00:44:00 Devastator: Too many mutations.
00:44:07 Devastator: It's a very good incentive to not do any more stat boosts.
00:44:17 Devastator: or more than I actually need.
00:47:23 Piecewise_: Look at the big brain on
ER
00:47:33 Piecewise_: might be a medical condition
00:47:44 Piecewise_: oh he's hemorrhaging
00:47:50 ER: I have d20 every stat and also lost my random mutations
00:47:56 ER: great game balance there bones~
00:48:17 Piecewise_: I mean, it just means I get to throw you into space to fight a million robots
00:48:47 ER: I'll get in the robot cuz I'm no wimp
00:49:48 Devastator: you'll be fine. ;-p
00:50:00 Devastator: I didn't have any d20+5 to deal with the other robots.
00:50:13 Devastator: these ones shouldn't be worse.
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00:59:54 Devastator: yeah, Zavi vs a million robots should go for Zavi.
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01:50:59 Piecewise_: I feel like this is what
Sy must sound like in real life
02:06:37 Piecewise_: Maybe its just his weapon fetishism
02:07:11 Devastator: I think he couldn't keep up with that guy, but I've never challenged him.
02:32:45 Devastator: "THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE GUNS OF ALL TIME"
02:32:52 Devastator: "You've never mentioned it to me before."
02:32:59 Devastator: Well, duh, you have like 80 favorite guns.
03:18:39 Piecewise_: You guys ever watch GITS on here?
03:19:36 Devastator: Ghost in the Shell?
03:20:18 Piecewise_: Probably should eventually
03:20:21 Piecewise_: original movie at least
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03:29:05 syv: Boobs in the shell sound appealing. GITS, however, hasn't seemed quite worth watching to me.
03:29:26 syv: When I've looked at it it didn't seem to age well. And sounded a bit too cerebral.
03:30:24 syv: I've thought about murderchildren more. Think they'll be called Verloren in-universe, though it might be a bit too on-the-nose.
03:31:59 Devastator: I'm mostly a blank. I see elements, but don't know either.
03:32:00 syv: Means Lost or Forlorn in Dutch/German I think. It comes from "Verloren Hoop" which according to wikipedia is the original term for Forlorn Hope soldiers.
03:32:15 Devastator: I just looked that up last week!
03:32:25 syv: Who are the shock troops you send as the first wave to assault a fortified position.
03:32:52 syv: They're expected to have a *very* low survival rate, and are basically disposable cannon fodder who are sacrificed to gain a foothold.
03:33:01 syv: But they're also supposed to be relatively elite.
03:37:32 ER: what's the setting supposed to be?
03:38:27 syv: I figure mostly an adaption of my original ideas for the CQB game factions.
03:39:20 syv: The protagonist country is Acirema, but after mostly conquering most of the adjacent guerilla faction's land, with it struggling to police the occupied territory.
03:39:51 syv: So a lot of freedom fighter/terrorists, which are actually being really damn successful.
03:40:59 syv: The Acireman leadership is getting desperate, which is why the Verloren program is actually accepted *at all*, they're just funding anything that they think might be an effective way to quell the resistance.
03:41:30 ER: not as a way to style on minorities?
03:42:58 syv: I was considering some of that, but I wanted to avoid using actual races. The verloren themselves would have a randomized ethnicity as part of the fact sheet they get, and it might actually affect things slightly, but their ethnicities would come from the factions, not real world races.
03:43:53 syv: I was also definitely going to write a general sense of racism and nationalism into the Aciremen.
03:44:43 syv: Not too heavy, they're not Nazis, but they need to be out of touch with the world to be even vaugely sympathetic due to what they're doing.
03:46:40 ER:
syv,
Devastator, want to watch something too-nite?
03:49:29 syv: I'm open to alternatives for the setting, btw. I did consider adding a supernatural element, a bit. Having whatever resistance exists be a more occult/true evil thing.
03:49:30 ER: alright, I've got that ready
03:49:44 Devastator: If you're serious, I'll write one up for you.
03:50:01 syv: Makes it easier to have it be an actual existential threat, justifies the verloren more.
03:50:11 ER: I feel like the opfor should be the good guys to some extent, really :P
03:50:26 syv: I just felt it was better to *not* justify the government hit squads that use traumatized children.
03:52:00 Devastator: What's the name of the main country again?
03:52:28 syv: The people are called Aciremen.
03:54:46 syv: The other faction I can recall are a true dystopia called Sovereign, they're small and have a lot of infighting, but really good soldiers, and they *love* black ops kinda stuff. Whatever land they're in, it's really tough defensively, without being all that valuable itself, so they don't generally engage in direct warfare with the other factions.
03:54:49 Devastator: Anyway, Acirema is sort of a normal country, but the world isn't. It's a long duration past a major global climate shift due to a close encounter with a roving brown dwarf, say a century or so, that caused massive social and economic disruption to all aspects of society.
03:55:05 syv: Their soldiers do act as mercenaries for other factions decently often though.
03:55:21 syv: And then there's two more that I forget actual names for.
03:55:34 Devastator: This naturally caused much upheaval of the local order of governments, which lead to the current situation with still some long-simmering disputes and open warfare over various changes that still haven't fully went away.
03:56:41 Devastator: Acirema is currently trying to forstall a new revolutionary force, but one that intends to unite with the dystopia, and it's unclear how much it's supported by indepdance activists or attackers from said dystopia.
03:56:44 Devastator: etc, write stuff from there.
03:58:37 syv: ...This is a lot of splashes.
03:58:53 Devastator: This will be.. exactly the same as the episodes, except with money!
03:59:34 Devastator: I don't want to sit through four hours of excessive psychoanalysis.
04:00:19 syv: Oh, no, it's different from 25 and 26
04:00:33 syv: It's more like the rest of the show to my understanding.
04:01:04 ER: don't mess with people while they're sleeping, dummy ;p
04:01:38 syv: Wait, did that actually mean that?
04:02:51 Devastator: mmm, right, everything can get rewritten now.
04:03:02 Devastator: I did say the board was now clear.
04:03:12 syv: My guess is that this was the original planned end.
04:05:05 syv: I'll have to go back and reas that after.
04:05:18 Devastator: I caught a few words.
04:05:28 Devastator: looked like gibberish.
04:05:31 syv: Other countries have Magi?
04:08:00 syv: Hacking is determined purely by who can type the fastest.
04:08:58 Devastator: looks good, but we know they can't do anything.
04:09:54 Devastator: okay, that's a good shot.
04:12:11 ER: dammit, this better not be what happens after we beat the kaiju
04:12:33 syv: Will you let your catgirls hide away due to pathos?
04:12:34 Devastator: depends on what you do and how you do it.
04:12:43 syv: Yes, they're meant to be G11s. :)
04:13:05 Devastator: Bakelite isn't red!
04:13:21 syv: I thought it was kinda a brownish tan?
04:13:30 ER: who knows what pathos nekobuthers have
04:13:33 Devastator: That's after it's not fresh.
04:13:38 syv: Oh, THIS is where that gun animation comes from!
04:13:43 syv: I have a gif of that saved
04:14:18 Devastator: Shoot some semi-named characters!
04:14:23 Devastator: shoot some semi-named characters!
04:14:48 Devastator: I mean, they can't win, but maybe some will escape.
04:17:26 syv: "You have a choice!" "I choose death." "No! Get in the fucking robot!"
04:20:18 ER: they're fucked when she wakes u- yup
04:21:00 syv: Power source is a weakpoint
04:21:21 Devastator: oh please, Aska won't "die"
04:21:30 ER: whether you want to live or want to die, just remember to channel that feeling into murder
04:21:36 syv: And wild Eva have always been recovered.
04:23:49 ER: sexy shoeless godess of war
04:23:51 Devastator: and no actual need for power.
04:24:14 syv: It seems to have always been useful.
04:24:19 Devastator: No, but again, she's not gonna die.
04:24:25 Devastator: so it won't matter if it runs out.
04:25:04 Devastator: well, this should look fun.
04:27:07 syv: Now do those have children inside as well?
04:27:47 Devastator: "Get in the fucking robot, Shinji."
04:27:56 ER: "I may be dying but I can still force you to GET IN THE ROBOT"
04:30:48 syv: Kisses are an effective method of manipulating teenagers.
04:34:00 ER: they never used that before!
04:34:06 Devastator: it spontaneously generated.
04:35:37 Devastator: I think the plugs are gone from the previous episode.
04:36:54 Devastator: so are we going to get a different ending?
04:38:07 Devastator: "That's an entirely different show!"
04:39:26 syv: It only took the ENTIRE FRIGGIN SHOW
04:39:29 Devastator: she's fine, Shinji.
04:40:02 Devastator: there you go, got your winged eva.
04:40:11 Devastator: well, it's beyond that, with the cosmology.
04:40:24 syv: Such humbleness, Sephirotic
04:40:34 syv: Putting yourseld in every part of the credits
04:41:03 syv: Is this song English in the sub?
04:41:17 Devastator: there are subs for it.
04:41:22 Devastator: but it's not in english.
04:41:27 ER: there are subs for it and it's english
04:42:44 Devastator: maybe I should just shut up for the last one.
04:44:19 syv: If I wanted silence I just wouldn't watch shows with you guys.
04:44:41 Devastator: yeah, but being negative.
04:44:41 syv: Wow, that worked out perfectly for me.
04:44:47 Devastator: you know I'm cheering for them to lose.
04:45:13 ER: if you looked and the sky was gone, you would tell me, right?
04:45:37 Devastator: nah, nothing any of us could do about that.
04:47:03 syv: That depends on what you mean by gone.
04:47:16 syv: If you mean invisible or opaque, no, that's pretty normal.
04:47:29 Devastator: someone smashed a void-linked golem elemental into the next town.
04:47:35 syv: It's FEW030 by the way, so very not gone.
04:47:43 Devastator: so the atmosphere is draining out into an artificial vacuum.
04:47:50 ER: well it's usually opaque, so if it's still opaque then it wouldn't be gone, now would it?
04:48:30 syv: FEW (1/8 or 2/8 sky coverage) clouds at a height of 3000 feet.
04:48:40 syv: What horrible land do you live in where the sky's usually opaque?
04:50:39 syv: He did all of this for love!
04:50:49 Devastator: He did all this for selfishness, yes.
04:53:57 Devastator: "You may now shut down your planet."
04:54:21 syv: My new computer's boot sound is a videogamey slash/unsheathing sound
04:54:46 syv: I find it kinda amusing tbh.
04:56:18 Devastator: okay, we might get different ending then.
04:56:52 Devastator: 1 for yes, 2 for yes.
04:57:45 Devastator: Still the best "We done fucked up" track, ever.
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04:58:36 syv: If you don't want Evangelion spoilers, maybe lesve fpr s little while
04:58:49 MidJag: Ah, I do not want any. Ill hop off.
04:58:51 Devastator: It's aight, I have a feeling this is gonna be intentionally confusing.
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05:00:08 syv: The solenoid graph has inverted!
05:00:39 Devastator: "It's up to Ikari's parenting skills!"
05:01:04 ER: plant eyes inside our skulls
05:02:38 syv: Considering it's shinji, this either ends in everyone dying
05:03:05 Devastator: It'll end with everything going horribly. ;-p
05:03:24 Devastator: We won't be so lucky.
05:03:31 Devastator: Last time it wasn't his vision in charge.
05:03:49 syv: No, I mean actual nothingness death
05:05:33 Devastator: I'm not convinced shinji has the self-confidence to manage a magical realm.
05:06:57 syv: This really is just "teenage boy is now omniscient god"
05:07:07 Devastator: "It was a good day."
05:08:56 Devastator: We done fucked up, ladies and gentlemen.
05:10:05 Devastator: It's going to be the moon!
05:14:12 syv: So this is where that picture's from
05:14:28 Devastator: well this totally isn't being heavily ambiguous.
05:15:39 syv: Doesn't seem ambiguous to me
05:16:02 Devastator: Maaaybe. Can't say so. Those red dots could be minds and/or souls.
05:16:26 Devastator: oh god, now this one.
05:16:26 syv: He's just taking awhile to get around to it.
05:16:44 Devastator: they're really going through the tunes.
05:17:28 Devastator: I learned to play this, years ago.
05:17:32 Devastator: I cannot remember the name.
05:17:51 Devastator: Only a very little bit.
05:17:53 Devastator: never put in the hours.
05:18:41 Devastator: "But you have no choice, Shinji."
05:20:31 syv: Does this count as a magical realm?
05:21:49 Devastator: Yes, did free him, it seems.
05:21:49 syv: Just kill everyone already
05:21:53 Devastator: well, that's a better ending.
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05:23:44 Devastator: stick around, this is muy ambiguous.
05:23:54 Devastator: can't say much for certain, so..
05:24:03 syv: The moral is that you should fuck incels
05:24:14 syv: Otherwise fucky stuff happens
05:24:43 MidJag_: Incels are a strange breed.
05:25:00 Devastator: It's a weird-as-fuck happy ending.
05:25:22 syv: This is what a happy ending looks like when you
05:25:34 syv: 're depressed and don't actually remember what "happy" is
05:25:55 Devastator: "There is happiness everywhere, even if you can't find it at the moment."
05:26:42 Devastator: "The loanliness that we have is a thing we can overcome as individuals."
05:27:14 Devastator: in a really, really fucked up way of expressing it.
05:28:07 syv: We're busy watching... something
05:28:13 MidJag_: Ah, apologies, thought it was over.
05:28:25 Devastator: Things happened and now things.
05:28:43 syv: Yeah, see this, this isn't a happy ending
05:28:55 syv: It's got some weird as fuck faux optimism
05:29:36 MidJag_:
Syv, you don't think any endings are happy :P
05:30:22 Devastator: aska not dead, it's happy. ;-p
05:30:34 syv: Does that count as a magical realm?
05:30:44 ER: you expected us to explain shit
05:30:48 Devastator: No, it's kinda the opposite of one.
05:30:57 Devastator: Makes sense to me..
05:31:06 Devastator: I'll bet it's a different sense than either of you, though.
05:31:17 syv: Just because you don't have a fetish for women calling you disgusting doesn't mean it's not a magical realm.
05:31:22 ER: maybe it would make more sense without you fucks analyzing it~
05:31:32 syv: Eh, the incel is too scared to actually self-terminate.
05:31:40 syv: And still wants to get laid.
05:31:47 syv: So murder everyone, but keep the girl.
05:32:03 syv: He's still a broken person who has pretty much sabotaged his last chance of fixing himself.
05:32:05 Devastator: Basically. Gave him a second crack. Probably most people are alive, god knows what shape the world is in, physics are temporarly re-established.
05:32:25 Devastator: Shinji still needs to get laid and get some real psychotherapy.
05:32:25 syv: Why would you think people are alive?
05:32:49 Devastator: Because they were returned to the planet and allowed a chance of reestablishing their lives.
05:33:00 Devastator: or do you think that only those two made it?
05:33:26 syv: We weren't shown anyone else, and incel didn't really ever display any care for anyone else during that entire sequence.
05:33:49 Devastator: We were shown lots of people. That was the whole red blood off the black moon thing. Those were people.
05:34:15 syv: Sure. But he never showed any care for them.
05:34:28 Devastator: Thinking about it again, first choice was how it would go, and incel make it a complete shitfest, second was what the new thing would be.
05:34:47 syv: You mean the first ending?
05:34:58 Devastator: No, the whole scene with the orange headsplosions.
05:35:33 syv: I assumed that did happen, then we got incel whining, then he respawned himself and a chick.
05:35:46 syv: And then she called him disgusting.
05:35:51 Devastator: yeah, and everyone else. He was 'murdering her', because that was the very last thing he was doing when he went back up.
05:36:02 Devastator: and she called him disgusting because he was kneeling on her breasts.
05:36:11 ER: apparently everything went according to keikaku for both seele and gendo, except gendo's plan failed exactly at the end, and they both wanted to smash all life
05:36:17 Devastator: ie, respawned in a comparable position.
05:36:24 syv: No, she called him disgusting because he's a disgusting piece of shit.
05:36:29 ER: and then a bunch of bullshit which doesn't matter happened
05:36:31 syv: And he respawned laying next to her
05:36:38 syv: Then got up and strated strangling her
05:37:03 Devastator: I'm going to check that again.
05:37:57 syv: Only about the laying down.
05:38:14 Devastator: yeah, but he had to move to that position. I missed those few seconds.
05:38:22 Devastator: thought he showed up in that position.
05:38:33 syv: "The biggest attraction at this event was the animation short that aired at the convention's opening."
05:39:06 Devastator: animation backstory, I see.
05:39:49 Devastator: reminds me of FMA alchemist written research being stuff about steam engines and what not.
05:40:44 Devastator: and yes, animation backstory. That's tongue-in-cheek.
05:41:44 syv: But yeah. The "optimism" here is depression optimism. "I don't see anything happy, I don't know where happy is, but I'm going to hope it exists and keep going until I luck into it".
05:42:21 syv: It's more positive than his suicidal depression earlier.
05:42:27 ER: Can't really say I liked that.
05:42:38 syv: Rebellion was much better.
05:42:53 Devastator: I'll still take that over "Everything is a long, slow-moving eternal hell from which choice is an illusion."
05:42:55 Devastator: but that's just me.
05:43:06 Devastator: and yes, Rebellion is much better.
05:44:03 ER: you really over interpret,
dev
05:44:04 syv: Even if people respawned at the end, they just fucked over the world, and god apparently decided to stop being god. And if he *didn't* stop being god, that's not actually better anyway, because there's about zero chance he's gonna approve judging by the final bit.
05:44:28 syv: If a happy ending is "this could have been worse, maybe, I guess", that's kinda fuckin dark
05:44:46 syv: At least congratulations had, like, the potential for incel to stop being broken.
05:45:26 Devastator: I don't see incel as existing in congratulations..
05:46:07 syv: I don't much like it either, but "people get to be happy and solve their personal issues" is still better than "most people die, get left in a hellish situation, and there's very little chance of recovering to what most people consider an even vaugely acceptable life"
05:46:43 Devastator: Yes, done fucked up.
05:46:46 syv: And that's if people did respawn, rather than their souls just being dropped or soms shit.
05:47:09 ER: think they might have been the many, many floating crosses
05:47:14 syv: Because it seemed like Rei was grabbing them, seemingly pretty much so Incel could suicide them.
05:47:22 syv: The floating crosses are nukes.
05:47:27 ER: seperate from each other in soul but just, you know, unutilized
05:47:37 Devastator: Seemed like it was to go into the orb where the first ending would have happened.
05:48:06 syv: Yeah, that's probable. He got the same scene of watching Misato get laid.
05:48:18 syv: And just watched while going >:(
05:48:32 syv: And then he killed Rei. And got rid of everyone.
05:49:19 Devastator: (I also know the follow-up movie has people in it.) ;-p
05:50:01 syv: There is no follow up movie.
05:51:03 ER: the rebuilds are apparently remake-sequel spooky ooo ??? all this has happened before and will happen again
05:51:04 syv: There's the rebuild movies, but the director has literally said that he wanted to remake the story when he wasn't overwhelmingly depressed, because when he made *this* movie, he was in a really dark place.
05:51:21 Devastator: must have been those, then.
05:51:35 MidJag_: That seems to happen a lot with directors
05:52:00 syv: The argument for the rebuilds being a sequel seems to be that it's a second chance for the characters to not have *this* happen.
05:52:12 syv: Which is pretty nice, considering this is just a giant shit.
05:52:36 ER: like God would make, and then drop right on us
05:53:45 syv: How's your day been,
MidJag>
05:54:09 MidJag_: Really good actually. The interviw I was stressing about went really really well.
05:54:28 MidJag_: I'm actually not the worst MdPhD canidate so yay!
05:54:30 Devastator: Just remembered Chuck from SFdebris called Gendo "Evil Lincoln."
05:54:48 syv: Stop spoiling yourself with SFDebris
05:55:06 Devastator: but Chucks recommendations was the only reason I watched PM3.
05:55:12 MidJag_: And fairly so yes, nothing guranteed, but I found out that my application has most of the right boxes checked.
05:55:16 syv: Maaan, did you watch his PM3 series before watching it?
05:55:26 Devastator: Had to. No other way I would have watched it.
05:55:30 syv: Did you ever sort out the MCAT stuff?
05:55:45 syv: That massively sucks,
Dev.
05:55:48 MidJag_: I find out in June whether or not it's actually sorted.
05:55:50 Devastator: then I watched it, and then I recommended it to you.
05:56:04 Devastator: Who do I know who would have recced it to me, and how would I even have found out about it?
05:56:15 MidJag_: It kinda does, but like worst case scenario I just relax for a year and do a masters.
05:56:17 syv: You know a lot of people that I don't.
05:56:27 syv: You have a life outside the internet.
05:57:02 syv: Also, you could simply have saw someone mention that he says "if I'm going to recommend any anime to someone, this is first"
05:57:27 syv: And not, like, watched the entire series and gotten a complete spoiler of every element of the plot.
05:58:03 Devastator:
Syv, I have one friend who is into anime, and he never saw PM3.
05:58:21 Devastator: He pretty much only does stuff coming out currently.
05:58:24 syv: None of us are your friends...
05:58:53 MidJag_: Oh I also found out about this really cool program I'm thinking of applying to. If I got it I would do 2 years of American med school, and then 3 years of getting a PhD at Oxford or Cambridge, and then finish 2 years at the same American medical school. Now, odds are incrediblly low I would get into it, but it's still a cool thing.
05:59:10 Devastator: I meant that you don't know,
syv.
05:59:56 syv: Seven years of hard schooling, four in a different country, sounds like hell to me.
06:00:06 MidJag_: Nah. Englands awesome.
06:00:31 syv: If you don't like your family.
06:01:44 Devastator: Man, it was awesome,
syv. It took his sound recommendation and his strength as a reviewer to break me out of my comfort zone enough to watch it, and watching it enriched my life. I'm not going to say it sucked massively that I didn't go into it unspoiled.
06:02:02 MidJag_: It's more like practice for residency, I wouldn't see anyone then. :P
06:02:04 syv: It's better than not watching it.
06:02:33 syv: It just sucks that you didn't go into it unspoiled, which had been what I thought had been the case.
06:03:08 syv: This new reality is a downgrade from the previous one, even if it's still a huge step up from the actual alternative.
06:03:40 Devastator: I don't think I would have been able to get you to watch it if I didn't have his reviews to help me do that.
06:04:13 ER: I thought it was just
piecewise, honestly
06:04:40 syv: Unless "it's not a never to be equalled success on the level of Alleg, but it touched a special place in my soul" came from Chuck.
06:04:44 MidJag_: I feel like dubs is the reason I've watched 50% of the anime I've watched, so that was my guess as well.
06:04:54 Devastator: ..not exactly, but it kind of did.
06:05:17 Devastator: there was a lot of what he said in his series retrospective at the end of it that came off in that.
06:05:41 syv: Also, you could have watched his full series *after* the show, as I did.
06:05:42 Devastator: I certainly had my own thoughts and feelings to add to it as well.
06:05:58 Devastator: Someone had to get me to watch it to begin with.
06:06:33 Devastator: and I can't say I never would have watched it without those, but I can't see when it'd happen.
PW hasn't recced it..
06:06:44 syv: I think I've gotten that,
Dev.
06:06:58 syv: You would not have watched without Chuck, yeah.
06:07:18 syv: I did not quite know this prior, so this new reality is still a downgrade.
06:07:58 Devastator: I am wholly satisfied with my experiences with PM3. And I got to see your reactions in real time.
06:08:10 Devastator: That was deeply enjoyable, knowing what was coming when you didn't.
06:08:59 ER: I knew the twist from tvtropes and it was still fun ;p
06:09:15 Devastator: Ahh, maybe only in your mind.
06:09:34 Devastator: There are few things I love more than watching something new while understanding that there's a lot to love there.
06:10:04 ER: insert OSP red video about plot twists and how being spoiled isn't always a huge detriment to your enjoyment of something
06:10:32 syv: Honestly, it is
ER. For me.
06:10:47 syv: A lot of my enjoyment of media comes from trying to predict and understand it.
06:11:03 syv: *Knowing* about what happens makes it just boring and uninteresting, like in AoT.
06:11:21 syv: This is probably part of why I only watch shows with other people.
06:11:47 MidJag_: I dunno, for me knowing a part of it can make it more. Then you have to figure out how exactlly it goes togehter based off the information you know.
06:12:18 Devastator: Yeah, for me it let me turn off my mind that predicts it and concentrate on the characters more.
06:12:35 Devastator: Chuck gave an outline, but he didn't let me know how I'd feel about it. That was my own.
06:20:15 syv: Oh, since we've brought him up, I want to complain about one part of his analysis.
06:20:27 syv: Breaking entropy with the power of lolis totally makes sense.
06:20:50 syv: And he's clearly too invested in sci fi if he doesn't understand that.
06:21:11 Devastator: magical girls, yes.
06:21:33 ER: an unsuprising take from someone who wrote a whole fanfic about the same thing~
06:25:17 syv: But yeah. Magic being able to generate energy is a very common trope. Magic being sourced from emotions is a very common trope. Little girls being the most emotional humans is a very common, if slightly sexist, trope.
06:25:25 syv: Combine the three? The answer is pretty obvious.
06:26:17 Devastator: need a pic of a little girl looking up at someone with big eyes.
06:26:23 Devastator: "The greatest power in the universe."
06:28:31 syv: And yet it still loses to gun
06:28:53 MidJag_: I have yet to meet man who can outsmart bullet
06:35:34 MidJag_: ...why do you know who that is
dev?
06:35:38 syv: I was thinking Sad Dubs, myself.
06:36:46 MidJag_: I'm thinking of this rapper I have vaguelly heard of.
06:38:56 syv: Not a fan of the genre, really.
06:39:23 MidJag_: I like very specific rap, but I'm also in a fratenity, so you just hear a lot of it.
06:44:13 syv: Yeah, how can THIS possibly accompany a happy ending?
06:45:14 ER: tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
06:45:34 MidJag_: It's an upbeat song about sucicide
06:45:42 MidJag_: Like can't stand losing you.
06:45:57 MidJag_: It's like hey don't actually do that.
06:46:14 syv: Yeaaah that is not how it comes across to me.
06:46:30 syv: Also, I think the upbeat is mostly because of the synthwave remix.
06:46:37 Devastator: There's always Lufia II for upbeat.
06:46:46 Devastator: and upbeat yet bittersweet.
06:46:58 syv: Nah, OG has a bittersweet tone too.
06:47:23 syv: The lyrics are still just "Yeah, I fucked up. Suicide is the correct choice now. Damn."
06:47:32 MidJag_: I dunno, I"m not sure the lyrics are really that dark. Like it's shit sucks but you accept it I guess.
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06:48:10 MidJag_: hiya
RC. Long time no see
06:48:34 RC: Good morning guys and galls all together.
06:48:57 RC: Hey nooncat! Yeah, you're right, it's been quite a while!
06:49:10 RC: How are things with uni these days?
06:49:37 RC: Decent enough. Gonna be allowed to start getting back into the lab again soonish hopefully, which is nice.
06:49:49 MidJag_: Not bad, had to finish the semester with online classes but not too ungodlly terrible. I'm starting to get into Md PhD applications.
06:49:56 MidJag_: And yes, I miss lab work.
06:50:18 RC: Oh, nice, another victim for the PhD pit :p
06:50:52 Devastator: nah, this is bittersweet..
06:51:09 RC: Watching that video,
syv, and what jumps out to me is less 'is this bittersweet or suicidal' and more 'so this is what max weeaboo looks like'.
06:51:52 MidJag_: I'm a closted weeaboo but yes.
06:52:24 MidJag_: But yeah, how's you PhD going
RC?
06:52:25 syv: I suspect you're actually closeted Japanese
06:52:30 Devastator: Heya
RC, so things going well?
06:52:37 syv: You earlier mentioned seven years of schooling like it was a good thing
06:52:46 RC: In this particular case, I'd say staying in the closet is probab ly the healthier move.
06:53:46 Devastator: It's a spectacular opportunity.
06:53:50 Devastator: but understandable.
06:54:24 MidJag_: It's a really cool 7 years of schooling.
06:54:26 RC: Like how they normally go: you never go as fast as you'd like to, there's always more to do than you possibly could manage, and at the end of the day you wonder if it's enough. BUT! You get to do science, so it's still worth it.
06:54:44 Devastator: Well, not science if there isn't always more stuff to do.
06:54:49 Devastator: it's how you know if you're really doing science.
06:54:55 ER: you crazy folks can do science for me
06:55:35 Devastator: also, k-com not going terribly well.
06:55:38 RC: Do you know yet what kind of field you'd like to get into?
06:55:47 Devastator: the last kaiju was a bit harsh on the players.
06:55:50 syv: Yeah, we're gonna sit back and carpe diem. You silly scientists keep working on making the world better for us, thanks.
06:55:56 RC: Oh, I'm sorry to hear it. Haven't read it in a bit though, what's the issue?
06:56:19 MidJag_: Still not entierlly sure. Maybe like genetics, possiblly something dealing wit immunology and transplants. Still not sure.
06:56:22 Devastator: last kaiju had three weapons and an AI that had it shoot tanks first.
06:56:35 Devastator: or, well, "medium sized ground vehicles."
06:56:45 RC: Because you don't know what to do next you mean, or just a waning interest in the game?
06:57:06 syv: Because today is the first day in awhile I've gotten a full sleep.
06:57:15 RC: Aah, yeah, that'd explain it.
06:57:49 RC: One of my favorite things in fact, if we go by time spent on it.
06:58:15 syv: Yeah, wish I could spend 100% of my time on it.
06:58:39 syv: Keeps me up half the time, instead I gotta deal with all these weird humans and distract myself.
06:59:17 MidJag_: To me sleep is like this annoying thing I have to do.
06:59:39 syv: Yes,
MJ. You're the weird one in our group.
06:59:44 RC:
MJ, those all sound pretty interesting.
06:59:51 ER: Eh, I just need a second brain so that they can sleep in shifts and get the best of both
07:00:13 MidJag_: I forget, what's yours in
RC? I know it's something to do with biology but I can't rember presciselly
07:00:36 RC: To be fair, if I magically got the option to simply need less sleep and be equally healthy I'd probably take it.
07:01:11 Devastator: dunno if I'd do that.
07:01:47 syv: If I got the ability to not have any penalty from never actually sleeping, I'd totally take that.
07:02:02 syv: That'd fix like 30% of my problems.
07:02:21 syv: Equally healthy though, that'd suck.
07:02:41 ER: I still need dreams to remind me of the things that didn't actually happen but I had forgotten though
07:03:16 RC: I'm working on a genetic heart disease. It's interesting for sure, but I do think that after this I will shift to something else, cause I do like to do different things and learn new techniques.
07:03:47 MidJag_: That's fair. Gene therapy stuff or more figuring out how it works?
07:05:26 RC: We're validating a moel right now, and when (/if... :v) that pans out we can test a few therapeutic approaches, yeah.
07:06:11 MidJag_: What animal you using? Mice I'm guessing?
07:06:21 RC: It's a heterozygous knock-in, so we can both try overexpressing a WT gene, or selectively knocking down the mutant gene.
07:06:55 RC: Haven't been allowed to see our mice in a while now though with the whole situation.
07:07:34 Devastator: going to lose your data over it?
07:08:37 RC: I miss them. Though I imagine the feeling isn't mutual. :p
07:08:53 RC: Should only lose some time over it, but it's very annoying.
07:09:14 MidJag_: That's my labs position right now as well.
07:10:25 MidJag_: Though flys, so a bit hardier than mice.
07:11:12 RC: Starting next week or so we might be allowed back into the lab, but preferably with a mouth mask. Which makes my recent bet with someone for which I have to grow a beard probably rather ill-timed.
07:11:27 MidJag_: ah, that is unfortunate.
07:11:53 RC: Aah, drosophila. Fun fun fun, up until someone in the practical accidentally releases a bunch of them.
07:12:01 Devastator: I'm likely to be wearing a mask until there's a vaccine, even if they exterminate it in my area.
07:12:17 RC: Wel, it's all in good fun, so if it's annoying I can just get rid of it.
07:12:26 MidJag_: Yes and then it becomes more like an exterminator job.
07:13:20 MidJag_: Though we got a couple of venus fly traps and that actually really helps cut down on the free fly population.
07:13:33 RC: Time to craft your makeshift flammenwerfer...
07:15:43 Devastator: huh, wouldn't think that.
07:16:56 MidJag_: I mean Venus fly traps hunt them naturally so like they're pretty good at it.
07:17:14 RC: Well, for a given definition of 'hunt'.
07:17:46 RC: Lazy bums just sit there and have the food fly into their mouth.
07:19:58 MidJag_: At least teir less lazy than pitcher plants.
07:20:15 MidJag_: They just let gravity do all the work.
07:21:19 RC: Maybe we should resort the natural world into degrees of laziness.
07:21:32 RC: If only so I can stand atop the food chain for once :p
07:35:03 MidJag_: Also we need to do Avatar as an anime night sometime. Damn good show.
07:35:29 ER: but does that really count as anime~~
07:35:55 Devastator: Oh, shoot, you mean the anime.
07:36:19 syv: And he also called it good
07:37:10 syv: I'm only against Avatar because it's pretty long. I liked the show, and have never watched it in full, but I prefer to watch a lot of short stories instead of watching a single long good story.
07:38:17 RC: It is kinda long for a marathon, true.
07:38:34 syv: If you guys really want it then I'm fine with it, though.
07:38:37 RC: Memories is a neat anime with short stories.
07:38:37 ER: we usually go like 3-4 at a time
07:38:54 MidJag_: We've seen Memories, was really cool.
07:39:11 syv: Yeah. And usually only have a few actual watching nights a month.
07:39:22 syv: Avatar would take most of a year, if not more.
07:39:28 MidJag_: ...
Dev and I have seen it, and I thought you had too
ER.
07:39:50 MidJag_: Oh right we watched it with dubs.
07:39:54 Devastator: I didn't see all of memories, only a few of them.
07:40:07 syv: This is the one with the cannon town?
07:40:11 Devastator:
syv needs to see cannon town, yes.
07:40:26 syv: Yeah, I read the logs for that, people brought me up repeatedly.
07:40:39 syv: I have it still, haven't watched it.
07:40:49 RC: I liked the one with the smelly guy a well, pretty silly but frantic and fun.
07:40:51 Devastator: it's a town.. with cannons.
07:40:57 Devastator: Yes, salaryman kaiju.
07:41:05 MidJag_: Smelly guy was really fun.
07:41:59 MidJag_: I always like unwitting walking catastrophes.
07:42:35 MidJag_: Hahaaha nah that's pretty accurate :P
07:42:40 ER: well, if we don't want to watch avatar together, I would still like a torrent so that I can watch it by myself some time :V
07:43:19 RC: There's also the follow-up show, Korra. Not bad either and has some very neat ideas, but not the same quality.
07:43:21 Devastator: I'm not against watching it, but I can't promise to watch all of it.
07:43:34 MidJag_: I keep meaning to see Korra someitme.
07:43:51 MidJag_: It seems like just enough neat ideas to justify watching it.
07:43:57 RC: Could watch the clone wars but stick to just the best storyarcs.
07:44:06 syv: I'd avoid Korra, because everyone I've spoke to about it had an opinion of either "it's bad" or "well, it's not as good, but at least it's more avatar".
07:44:28 RC: I think it gets some undeserved hate.
07:44:38 MidJag_: We should watch the last airbender movie as a bad movie night.
07:45:06 RC: But yeah, if you go in expecting the same quality as the original you'll be disappointed.
07:45:11 syv: Ask Dubs, he actually likes those.
07:45:29 MidJag_: That movie was honestlly the worst movie I have ever seen.
07:45:45 RC: Ghost in the shell: stand alone complex could be good. Mostly self-contained stories and pretty good as well.
07:46:14 RC: So even if you can only watch from time to time, you don't have to recap all the time.
07:46:42 syv: Ah yes, since we're doing the suggestion spam thing: I'd like to watch Memento. And Equilibrium.
07:46:48 MidJag_: It was directed by M. Night Shamalan
dev. And the charecters look and act nothing like their show counterparts.
07:46:48 syv: Which are western movies, not anime.
07:46:53 Devastator: Equilibrium Memento.
07:46:53 RC: Also don't absolutely need to see the movies to get them, another bonus if you want some bite-sized entertainment.
07:47:01 MidJag_: I'd be dwon to watch memnento
07:47:21 syv: ...Nobody here gets that reference. ._.
07:47:28 RC: Equilibrium is eminently silly, but gunkata is sweet.
07:47:35 MidJag_: There are far too many "m" in that word.
07:48:55 RC: Oh, if you want a game you can play together that's rather fun, Overcooked is a blast.
07:49:11 RC: I think
ER especially will appreciate it~
07:49:17 syv: I presume that's a game that needs ping?
07:49:21 MidJag_: I'm going to bed anyway.
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07:49:50 RC: Was nice seeing y- aaah shucks, nevermind.
07:50:09 RC: You don't need great ping for it I think, it's pretty simple I think.
07:51:30 syv: Cooperative cooking game, okay.
07:51:32 RC: It helps to have voice chat though, so you can properly yell at people "TO FINISH THAT FUCKING PLATE AND GET IT TO THE PIGS OVER THERE I SWEAR TO GOD".
07:51:37 syv: I expected PvP flamethrowers.
07:52:04 syv: I'd get it if others here are interested.
07:52:14 ER: I am NOT down with... multitasking in general :P
07:52:27 RC: It's fun if you can pick it up cheaply, and you can set fire to the kitchen so that's good.
07:52:59 Devastator: you know me and coop games.
07:53:22 syv: It doesn't look like you can solo everything in this,
Dev.
07:53:35 RC: Protip: steal their pots and pans and they're screwed.
07:54:03 RC: Or even better, while they are finishing their dish, steal it just as it's ready to be served.
07:54:10 Devastator: alleg is also co-op..
07:54:32 RC: A single good player can make a big difference actually, but yeah, you need cooperation to really succeed in the later levels.
07:56:45 RC: It's just really fun, last time we played three of us were really scrambling to get it all done while the other was just throwing meat onto every plate and surface. We were all so focussed it took a bit to realize what he was doing, and then there was a chorus of GET YOUR DAMN MEAT OUT OF MY FACE YOU IDIOT.
07:56:49 syv: "Absolutely one of the most stressful games ever made. MMO raids have nothing on this game. Useful for testing your friendships"
07:57:33 Devastator: Stop slapping meat in my face!
07:58:31 syv: That's... 2/4. You want to just play with me,
Dev? Because we both know
MJ has one free evening a month.
07:58:43 RC: Last time we played the second one, where you can throw things onto plates from afar. Pan kept lobbing ingredients from half the kitchen away while yelling "Kobe!". And the worst part is that he was really good at it so we couldn't even be mad at him.
08:04:32 Devastator: lemme go get my wallet.
08:05:14 RC: Fair warning, past the first levels you do generally need 4 players to be able to progress.
08:05:49 RC: I'd personally try and get it on a sale if you could, assuming you're not absolutely starved for a game to play.
08:06:45 Devastator: full stop, or 'unless you're godly'?
08:07:37 ER: well for you that makes no difference
08:08:11 Devastator: mostly just wondering if it's that there's too much to handle or if it's 'you have to wait for these cooldowns/timers'
08:08:25 RC: You could probably get further with fewer players if you're good, but even then I think it'd be a challenge. But you could try though!
08:09:02 RC: But if you're great at managing and multitasking you can do things while eg. the soup is cooking, then take it off just before it burns.
08:10:19 RC: You could watch a gameplay vid to see what I mean.
08:10:42 syv: I'll get it if you get it,
Dev.
08:10:58 syv: Though we'll prolly only be able to actually play together when I'm at work, like Surviv.
08:11:15 RC: It's a good game for short sessions at least.
08:11:32 RC: A level is usually a couple minutes at most.
08:13:22 Devastator: could play surviv if you want.
08:13:32 Devastator: but I've got my wallet right here, so happy to try it.
08:14:46 ER: know what's funny? someone speedrunning the bad silent hill games.
08:14:54 syv: I'd prefer the chef game I think.
08:15:05 syv: Surviv... often just makes me irritated.
08:15:07 ER: he does both the bad ones and the good ones
08:15:15 syv: It's good but I have limited tolerance.
08:15:47 RC: For surviv I just accept that I'm garbo at it.
08:15:55 syv: Hammer the buttons and wiggle the sticks!
08:16:25 ER: one of the speedruns is mostly phasing through walls by aiming your gun into them, because that's a thing you can do
08:18:02 RC: Nice physics you got there.
08:19:48 Devastator: ok, will go buy it.
08:21:06 syv: Oh god it's weird having internet.
08:23:16 Devastator: not going to be quite that fast for me.
08:24:02 Devastator: huh, says only 240mb.
08:24:04 RC:
Dev first has to buy gold bullion through a non-traceable vendor.
08:24:28 RC: Then find a way to ship that to the developers through at least 3 middlemen.
08:24:34 Devastator: It's the packet-carrying pigeons that are the hard part.
08:24:46 RC: Then he has to find someone to assassinate the middlemen afterwards.
08:24:47 Devastator: but that's more of an installation cost.
08:25:17 RC: I heard Pigeonnet has surprisingly good bandwith these days.
08:25:21 ER: nah, you can't hire anyone to assassainate the middlemen
08:25:32 ER: because then you would have to pay the assassain through middlemen
08:25:42 ER: you juts have to kill those people yourself
08:25:43 Devastator: it's a ping issue, not bandwidth.
08:29:06 RC: "A big truck filled with hard drives has amazing bandwith, so why don't we use that for internet? Checkmate ISPs!"
08:29:35 syv: "Ooh, my Halo data came! I get to see if my plasma shot hit anyone!"
08:29:50 Devastator: they do actually fly drives around sometimes.
08:30:10 RC: There's an SMBC comic that's relevant here but I'm too lazy to search for it.
08:30:30 syv: Sadly that one's from a what-if
08:40:03 ER: is there something I should say here
08:40:33 syv: If you just want to spark a topic I can talk about something, I'm sure.
08:42:30 RC: Corn farming in rural Missouri, go.
08:43:39 RC: Though pasta is probably my favorite starchy staple.
08:43:50 syv: Corn is annoying to eat unless it's canned, and canned corn has always been kinda bleh mush to me.
08:44:10 Devastator: they don't have canned niblets?
08:44:36 RC: Potato is also nice, but I dunno, maybe I had it too often as a kid so now I gravitate to other things.
08:46:00 RC: Or maybe because whole potatoes are too large to soak up sauce and such nicely, hmm.
08:46:57 ER: lots of nice stuff's made from corn, but it's no fun to eat plain, sure
08:48:47 ER: though honestly I prefer to big old burrito flour tortillas
08:49:52 RC: Hmm. For popcorn: salty or sweet?
08:51:31 syv: Hrm. Things I like made of corn.
08:51:48 syv: Beyond that, no, I don't like corn at all.
08:52:26 syv: Rice, rice is a decent simple thing that doesn't suffer from being fridged, and mixes well with basically whatever.
08:52:33 syv: So yeah, rice absolutely wins.
08:52:44 Devastator: I'm not a rice fan, personally. I like eating it, but not cooking it.
08:53:45 syv: Erm. Boil some water and add the rice.
08:54:16 Devastator: it's hard to do well.
08:54:30 syv: I guess I just like poorly cooked rice. :\
08:54:41 Devastator: nah, it's one of my brothers.
08:54:49 Devastator: he's got a fancry rice cooker and makes really nice rice.
08:57:09 RC: I quite like couscous as well.
08:57:54 RC: Kinda like rice but you can make it very flavorful easily and unlike rice, if you have no sauce it's no biggie.
09:01:56 RC: Also,
syv, it seems your laser in Mook is cursed, going by the rolls I keep getting for it :v
09:03:06 RC: Maybe you can give it a try sometime?
09:06:21 syv: Guess I might as well, instead of twiddling my thumbs.
09:07:00 RC: Not sure if
pw is rolling tech for this actually, might be know.
09:07:09 RC: Either way, doesn't hurt to try.
09:07:51 syv: I was joking really, but sure. If you wanna call it Waterbrook, that's fine.
09:07:58 syv: It's dumb, but a lot of cities have dumb names.
09:10:34 ER: you need to update PS more often ;p
09:11:29 syv: It was literally seven days short of a year ago.
09:11:46 syv: And that was right before Lucy's memories, so just after the end of the last labyrinth.
09:12:38 syv: If you told me someone was running a game like this I'd tell you they don't have players anymore. O.O
09:13:14 ER: yeah well, some of them are me and
dev
09:13:23 ER: we're not sane, normal people
09:15:37 ER: I guess she's just a persistant sort? Or attached to that character?
09:16:17 syv: "Oh, I love this character so much, yes I'll come back after a year to see her get tortured some more."
09:19:02 ER: there's an art to making a system where people make characters they're attached to, I think
09:19:20 Devastator: can we play overcooked?
09:21:02 Devastator: not seeing how to multiplayer it.
09:21:32 syv: What's your steam account?
09:21:39 syv: Might need to use the friendslist invite thinger
09:22:13 syv: Oh, Steam has a friendcode feature now.
09:23:04 syv: Hrm. "remote play together"
09:23:08 RC: Have fun burning down your kitchen.
09:23:12 syv: How does online multi work?
09:23:30 syv: For the game you rec'd us!
09:23:39 syv: How do we play multiplayer together?
09:24:31 RC: We played the second one together and it simply had a lobby you could add people to.
09:25:11 RC: When we played the first one it was local, does the first one not have a lobby you can just add people to like in normal mp games?
09:25:58 syv: ...Okay, yeah, looking the second one up, it says online co-op, while 1 does not.
09:26:04 syv: It has remote play together.
09:26:11 RC: Hmm, throwing it into google it seems like they only added easy online multiplayer for the second one, damn.
09:26:52 RC: Apparently there is a workaround for the first one to make it seem like you're playing together locally. Didn't know about that, sorry.
09:27:18 Devastator: well, we'll figure it out.
09:27:19 syv: Yeah, Steam has a remote local play feature that might work. I've never tried it for anything.
09:27:27 RC: If you can't get it to work easily maybe consider getting the refund, I think steam has that these days?
09:27:44 syv: <2 hours played, refund basically without question.
09:27:52 syv: Also within thirty days of purchase.
09:28:00 Devastator: so how's that work?
09:29:03 syv: I forget, but I've done it before. A minute
09:30:44 syv: Open steam up, click help tab in upper left
09:31:09 syv: Steam support >Overcooked >"It's not what I expected" > "I'd like to request a refund"
09:31:47 Devastator: oh, the refund thing.
09:31:52 Devastator: I thought you meant the tame play.
09:32:17 syv: Add person to friend's list, open game, right click on them in friends list, "invite to remote play"
09:32:30 syv: (
syv) What's your steam account?
09:32:32 Devastator: lets give that a shot first.
09:33:05 ER: wonder if necrodancer would be unplayable on that
09:33:29 syv: I would love to try it with you.
09:44:39 syv: Welp, it does NOT work with overcooked.
09:45:02 syv: It probably doesn't work with necrodancer, but if you want to try quick
ER, I'm willing.
09:46:22 syv: Oh, I haven't installed it on this comp yet...
09:47:16 ER: that's a valid reason to akf
09:56:05 syv: Necrodancer actually works
10:02:41 syv: Yeah, I'm really surprised by how good that is.
10:02:49 Devastator: it might be mostly me.
10:03:03 Devastator: you two might be ok.
10:03:07 syv: Plus you're a lot farther.
10:03:22 syv: Low resolution, I don't think I'd want to play an unfamiliar game like that.
10:03:41 Devastator: I played it for a few minutes.
10:03:42 syv: But Necrodancer? I've played it a ton, I don't need quality graphics to tell what's going on.
10:03:46 Devastator: seems pretty chaotic.
10:04:07 Devastator: should be good for a party game, so I'll keep it around.
10:04:17 syv: Well, if you want to get the sequel, I'll but it myself.
10:04:25 syv: Only 6$ more cost, and has multiplayer.
10:04:29 Devastator: Nah, no hurry. It might still suck.
10:04:46 syv: Ah, Steam refund does have a 30-day limit, I believe.
10:04:58 syv: So if you do want to swap 1 for 2, do make that decision first.
10:05:15 Devastator: 2 might have the same party game features, too.
10:05:20 Devastator: so just a straight upgrade.
10:05:49 syv: Also, some Steam employee has to vet the refund before it'll go back, and I've had a little bit of trouble with it not being able to refund to my credit card.
10:06:05 syv: IIRC one time the payment failed and I got the money in my steam wallet, the other time it worked.
10:06:25 Devastator: won't break the bank.
10:07:04 syv: I'm sure even if it did it's the kind of thing that you just have to call customer service and yell a bit, but that's an annoyance, especially over 20$.
10:07:16 syv: Doesn't matter for me either since I buy steam games.
10:08:16 ER: I still have four cents in my steam wallet
10:08:55 syv: I usually have 0, or some amount less than a dollar because went through the annoyance of selling the trading cards.
10:10:31 ER: long ago I sold the steam trading cards for small amounts of wallet money. I bought a tf2 hat with it!
10:11:24 ER: and a bunch of other times I lost it because steam defaults to taking from your wallet, then your card even when you have like 16 cents
10:13:12 syv: Well, that refund was fast.
10:13:16 Devastator: I suppose it's better that way, really.
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