00:00:55 Devastator: basically just going to want to pick like 3 or 4 items from whatever they have, in return for a gun, a sword, and the magicoal.
00:05:11 Devastator: but eh, roll to see if the dean's a huge dick or gets too tempted by the magicoal and offers more, maybe?
01:20:35 Piecewise_: Sorry, was handling
ER's meeting
01:21:35 Piecewise_: Yeah, a list of what you're offering would be good. The dean isn't a dick but he also wants to keep what he can. Do you want to have those tablets to keep, or just to look at? If you're ok looking at them, he'd let you look at ALL of them
01:58:26 Devastator: I only have one free word slot in my head right now, so keeping is much better.
01:58:40 Devastator: and the rule change means I'm not getting more.
01:59:52 Devastator:
Piecewise_ basically a gun, a sword and the barrel of magicoal. I'll float about the library but won't include it at this time.
02:00:39 Piecewise_: Why aren't you getting more?
02:00:55 Piecewise_: The rule change shouldn't make it impossible, just have a consequence
02:01:45 Devastator: because mutations are permanent and I don't have access to the mana that's been collected. It's in an unusable form for Saeko.
02:01:58 Devastator: Plus I've had two awful mutations so far.
02:02:07 Devastator: well, one neutral/bad and one bad/very bad.
02:02:44 Devastator: plus a d10 int will take a couple spells to do. I'll be able to get one more +1 for 50 mana, and that's it.
02:03:14 Piecewise_: Hmm. So you want tablets and what else?
02:03:36 Devastator: not sure. I'm not against items, but I don't know what's on offer.
02:03:56 Devastator: Really, I've got stuff to make or change or build already, and there's stuff I'd like, but I really don't know what specifically.
02:04:46 Devastator: yeah, d10 kno is basically two d12 spells into it, and that's not easy.
02:05:37 Piecewise_: Hmm. Well the university has access to a lot of old tech
02:05:45 Piecewise_: and a lot of expertise in various things
02:05:53 Piecewise_: is there information you want?
02:06:59 Devastator: Maybe. Saeko'd be interested in an easier bodymodding effort. I could ask questions about the gods or becoming a god, or ask questions about the decline of magic.
02:07:55 Devastator: but other than the third, might prefer to quest for those things, because they're too special, really.
02:08:18 Devastator: plus I might get answers as to #3 just by getting one of these nerds drunk or something.
02:13:12 Piecewise_: Hmm. Well I can't really list out everything the place has, so I think it might be easiest to either ask questions or just ask if they have something. If you want, we can always put them on a IOU and if you think of somethign you want, come back for it
02:13:38 Devastator: mmm, well, I can come up with some stuff.
02:15:55 Devastator: Some biometal would be nice. Maybe a spacesuit.
02:19:41 ER: Well, I guess getting stat upgrades from you didn't really matter. :P
02:20:11 Devastator: yeah, not surprised there.
02:21:54 Devastator: Well, the idea I had for turning the mana room into useable mana for Saeko was to have ekrov make a painted world and keeping it running with a feed from the mana room.
02:22:51 Devastator: if someone had an item that would solve that problem for me, with the unstable leaky mana and not being able to access the huge amount we've found, that would be good.
02:23:33 Piecewise_: Biometal and space suit are available
02:23:43 Piecewise_: as is information about that area
02:34:43 Devastator: I am a bit shocked you get to keep your plusses..
02:34:50 Devastator: not totally, but a bit.
02:35:01 Devastator: might mean stuff cosmology-wise.
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03:43:19 syv: Gonna break some mages, now?
03:44:03 syv:
MJ said he'd be along shortly, btw.
03:44:06 ER: Well, advancing-the-plot-time is now
03:45:07 Devastator: It's good, but I don't do things quickly..
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03:45:21 Devastator: at least I got to explore a bunch.
03:47:06 syv: That was faster than expected!
03:48:06 MidJag: I'm not sure how many eps I'll be able to watch. I'm fucking exhsasted.
03:48:19 Devastator: right, it was M:R, correct?
03:48:47 MidJag: So it's like an alternative universe version of PM3?
03:49:03 syv: The iPhone mobile game universe.
03:49:21 MidJag: Right. which is somehow not absotulte garbage from what I've heard.
03:49:35 Devastator: Yes, I'd expect it to be that.
03:49:56 MidJag: huh. 13 eps. Same as PM3 right?
03:50:02 Devastator: Mmm, that would be something. We fire it up, and there's characters named the same as our PS ones.
03:50:13 syv: Different writer than PM3, but Shaft is working on it, so it'll be pretty good anyway.
03:50:40 Devastator: apperances are good.
03:50:51 ER: truly, the only reason I watch anime anyway ;p
03:51:01 syv: My computer is booting slow...
03:51:04 MidJag: Eh, worst comes to worst I get stoned and laugh my way through it.
03:51:33 MidJag: Course none of you want to see how bad my grammar gets when I'm like that though.
03:51:50 syv: I suspect we've all seen it.
03:51:58 syv: Probably all dealt with worse, as well.
03:52:00 Devastator: not stoned to my knowledge.
03:52:22 MidJag: I'm pretty sure
dev and
syv have seen MJ'd
MJ.
03:53:59 MidJag: Well my brothers already drank all of the easily accessible booze so you aren't likely to see drunk
MJ.
03:55:14 syv: No two-second attention span while crossed? Oh well.
03:55:55 syv: Okay, comp up and ready whenever y'all are.
03:57:51 syv:
Dev, does game mean ready?
03:58:06 Devastator: It means I'm going to get it ready.
03:59:00 Devastator: I am eating a salami sandwich.
03:59:24 syv: Hmm. The dub is out for MR.
03:59:57 Devastator: No way I can redownload it quickly.
04:00:00 MidJag: Thats earlier than I expected.
04:00:09 syv: Should I link that quick? I think
MJ is the only one who cares and could actually DL anything bsfore the first ep is done
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04:02:16 MidJag: I like reading, but I hate typing amd reading at the samre time
04:02:18 syComp: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e8bfe37dbed12bb5a625f1d9c05978f9778af612&dn=Magia%20Record%20Mahou%20Shoujo%20Madoka%20Magica%20Gaiden&tr=http%3a%2f%2fnyaa.tracker.wf%3a7777%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fopen.stealth.si%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fexodus.desync
04:02:39 syComp: Since I'm at work I actually already DL'd the first couple eps of the dub, so gonna switch...
04:03:46 Devastator: peasants can't read this quick.
04:04:03 syv: The dub cuts 18 seconds off the front.
04:05:10 Devastator: we can line up 18 seconds in.
04:05:11 syv: So... og torrenters, start at 00:13, it's just a couple splashes for publishers.
04:05:54 ER: (looks more like 12 to me ;p )
04:05:55 MidJag: Ah right, my connection sucks right now because my brothers are playing cod and watching hulu a tthe same time.
04:06:37 MidJag: I finnally got it on the right time!
04:06:51 Devastator: bad sign all the plants.
04:07:03 ER: can't deny that it's pretty
04:07:48 Devastator: well, not wasting time for the fans, presumably.
04:08:11 syv is annoyed with Dev for making me dislike the new outfits
04:08:18 MidJag: hey look that thing I saw when I got so high I hallucinated.
04:08:31 Devastator: Ahh, was going to say they look a bit better here than I was anticipating.
04:08:47 Devastator: ouch, those maces are really bad.
04:08:59 Devastator: not nearly enough reach.
04:09:23 MidJag: I like the scores one. I need that wish.
04:09:27 syv: Those are about as long as Alida's base clubs, actually
04:09:38 Devastator: really? Look shorter than baseball bats.
04:09:46 syv: Her base clubs are fishing club§
04:09:52 Devastator: I forgot for a sec.
04:10:23 syv: right into the weirdshit I guess
04:10:37 Devastator: maybe she had a sister who went witch.
04:10:41 MidJag: I feel like when everyone knows the twist you can't spring it on them anymore
04:10:56 ER: poor anime creatures, they're allowed to make life-ending decisions, rather than having the universe make them for them
04:11:33 Devastator: Well, they're doing the anime thing of minor characters not getting eyes, so they're meaningless.
04:11:36 MidJag: I like the ochem desigins
04:11:57 Devastator: yeah, but the plants are saying some really bad things about the overall environment..
04:12:26 syv: I think it's supposed to be a super green idyllic society
04:12:30 Devastator: Yeah, this place has been messed up by wishes.
04:12:33 MidJag: Man her parents are out of town, she' has a shortned life span and she doesn't throw one rager?
04:12:33 syv: They're in the ghibli hills
04:12:44 syv: Or, nope, familiar in the open, you're right
04:13:12 MidJag: She wished to forget her sister who became a wish or something
04:13:26 Devastator: well that's creepy.
04:13:46 MidJag: What the hell kinda school are they in?
04:13:56 Devastator: someone fucked it up via wish.
04:14:02 syv: "What is your third and final wish?" "I wish to know who I am." "Funny, that was your first wish."
04:14:07 MidJag: That would honestlly make sense.
04:14:25 syv: This teacher has had too much cocaine
04:14:37 Devastator: Still better than the first teacher.
04:14:45 MidJag: Maybe she's the chem teacher, just pulling a breaking bad
04:14:48 Devastator: That is, better teacher.
04:15:17 Devastator: so pink, green, blue, and auburn.
04:15:22 MidJag: Oh, hey it's pink black red and green
04:15:32 Devastator: None of these people deserve black.
04:15:45 syv: None of them deserve any of those colors
04:16:04 syv: Irohai is pink protag, got that much.
04:16:05 Devastator: dangit, there's someone in black.
04:16:17 ER: sometimes I, too, pretend that my broom is a polearm
04:16:26 ER: actually I might do that more than actually using it
04:16:48 MidJag: Wait, I missed something, what happened to the greif seeds?
04:16:58 syv: There's less witches than there used to be
04:17:00 MidJag: Hey, it's like the emproers grace
04:17:01 Devastator: nothing, just mentioning there's fewer witches around.
04:17:25 syv: "WHISPERING IS PROHIBITED"
04:17:34 Devastator: Yeah, there's things going on here.
04:17:53 MidJag: Oh, that was pinks wish
04:18:05 MidJag: That's why she can't rember it.
04:18:20 ER: no, pink's world is more messed up than this one
04:18:26 MidJag: It's all coming together! OR I need way more sleep, one of the two.
04:19:32 Devastator: can remember that one.
04:19:33 MidJag: Pretty train. Nice wood paneling
04:19:50 ER: this music reminds me of nier
04:20:19 Devastator: what are those, chair pieces and hair strands?
04:20:55 Devastator: well, a mobile labrynth, that's an idea.
04:20:57 ER: small children don't know to lead, ovciously
04:21:42 MidJag: Oh hey, inter witch rivalry
04:21:45 Devastator: gonna need bigger manabolts.
04:22:06 syv: Clearly she's a sociopath, can't afford high cost MBs
04:22:16 Devastator: I thought pink was okay that way.
04:23:16 MidJag: Blue's always OP, but burns out earlly
04:23:29 Devastator: also that's some outfit.
04:23:35 syv: I'm guessing this is the Mami equiv
04:23:53 MidJag: Nah, feel more like red equivlanet
04:25:02 MidJag: I guess, Kyubey's are pokemon now
04:25:03 syv: Still gives me more of a Mami vibe
04:25:26 Devastator: different personality, though.
04:26:11 MidJag: Like I siad she's red. Red was just bitter and angry, this one's bitter but not as angry
04:26:29 syv: Willing to kill other MGs for territory/
04:26:47 MidJag: So black is giong to be blue?
04:27:32 syv: I bet someone's calling food.
04:28:32 Devastator: oh yeah, those pics are totally not missing another person.
04:28:54 MidJag: Man, that's a nice theme I have to say.
04:29:23 Devastator: I think the problem is that this is forever going to be compared to the original.
04:29:26 MidJag: I'm delirious, give me this spot of happiness.
04:29:34 ER: behold the happiness which this show will absolutely be about
04:30:00 Devastator: and the original was so good I'm going to have a really hard time judging this by it's own merits.
04:30:01 MidJag: I wanna see riot shield girl fight. fighting people with a shield always seemed cool.
04:30:09 syv: Yes, I like shield maiden.
04:30:15 syv: Best totem seen here so far.
04:30:17 Devastator: yeah, should be able to see more.
04:30:22 syv: ...Also, Homura had a shield.
04:30:31 MidJag: I'd call that buckler but yes.
04:31:02 MidJag: It's only OP if you make it OP.
04:31:32 Devastator: TIMESTOP IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE OP.
04:31:44 syv: (
Devastator) I think the problem is that this is forever going to be compared to the original.
04:31:44 syv: This is very true. But I don't dislike it so far. I disliked the start of PM3 more.
04:32:07 Devastator: Yeah, but I'd have a very, very hard time skipping the start of PM3, ti was.. importantt.
04:32:11 syv: And the story can actually be happy, Urobutcher didn't write this one.
04:32:17 ER: what about the dnd timestop which ends the moment you make an attack?
04:32:37 syv: Makes it hard to make other people watch PM3. I had one kid *skip* the first three episodes.
04:32:38 MidJag: Timestop in 5e is really not that good.
04:32:42 Devastator: "Delayed blast Fireball"
04:32:59 MidJag: Like it's cool, but not like insanelly good.
04:33:01 Devastator: but that kid suffered for doing so.
04:33:02 syv: "Ah yes just let me spend six rounds buffing myself, great, now let's fight"
04:33:17 MidJag: Slan needs that kinda thing
04:33:22 ER: for a 9th level spell, you had better let me do some buuuuullshit
04:34:52 MidJag: Everyone I've gotten to watch it, I've had to cajole them through the first 3.
04:34:53 syv: Kay then, I'mma check the sky qyick
04:35:46 Devastator: Has anyone not liked it?
04:36:03 Devastator: I do have other people I'd like to show it, but the opening bumpers and the first three episodes make me worried.
04:36:07 syv: I've literally had to bribe people.
04:36:19 Devastator: Even if I absolutely know they'd love it.
04:36:24 syv: I did have one person sstill dislike it by episode six.
04:36:49 syv: He quit then, and I let him.
04:37:04 syv: Yes, bribes. Mostly promising to do minor favors.
04:37:04 MidJag: The hardest person to get to watch it was my old roommate, and he loved it after the third episode.
04:37:19 Devastator: I haven't had anyone harder than
syv, myself.
04:37:31 Devastator: but there's people I haven't tried.
04:38:12 Piecewise_: whatcha guys watching?
04:38:14 MidJag: Man, I think I finnally rembered that we start on 0
04:38:26 MidJag: I'm impressed with myself.
04:38:45 syv: I feel like Dubs would know that? He's Max Weeb
04:39:16 Devastator: We getting all metaphorical up in this.
04:39:18 syv: This animation studio likes lamps.
04:39:22 Devastator: Oh god, that could be a really, really bad wish.
04:39:31 Devastator: "Your sister is now dead."
04:40:00 Devastator: Pause after opening?
04:40:28 MidJag: As my dads favorte dark humor joke says. All bleeding stops eventually.
04:41:20 Devastator: my favorite joke is a Newfie joke.
04:41:45 Devastator: Yeah. I need to do the accent to do it properly.
04:41:57 MidJag: Oh, newfoundland, that place in Canada
04:43:03 MidJag: Also if you ever need to get inspiratoin for a witches labrythn
syv, just look at an old hospital. there will never be more confusing floor plans then those.
04:43:04 Devastator: I could tell you guys, but I'd have to do it on stream.
04:43:17 Devastator: maybe old colleges/universities.
04:43:20 Devastator: those can be bad too.
04:43:32 syv: Nah, that's not good for labyrinths in PS
04:43:56 syv: I mean how can I write this shit?
04:44:10 Devastator: "a field of woolen grass"
04:44:20 MidJag: Take a shit ton of acid and a tape recorder, you'll figure it out.
04:44:20 syv: Running in sixteen different reflections
04:45:22 Devastator: gotta do more combo moves.
04:45:34 MidJag: Oh she's the old witch, bebe?
04:45:58 MidJag: She's even being supported by Mami.
04:46:04 ER: "I take the help action to give my ally advantage on their attack roll."
04:46:17 Devastator: I meant more combo magic.
04:46:21 syv: ...She's missing the chest
04:47:38 MidJag: I feel like their powers aren't as creative.
04:47:44 MidJag: I haven't seem them use anything but totems
04:47:48 Devastator: haven't had that much time.
04:48:37 Devastator: There weren't that many powers in PM3. Walls, yeah. Homura did some shields, but she's Homura.
04:48:56 Devastator: Yeah, ribbons and guns.
04:49:01 syv: I quite like NuGold's voice actor, but it's very inappropriate for her appearance.
04:49:43 syv: The others are doing the standard squeaking
04:50:21 Devastator: Mmm, only to be expected.
04:50:22 MidJag: ...that is the least friendlly robot nurse I've ever seen
04:50:23 syv: (
Devastator) There weren't that many powers in PM3. Walls, yeah. Homura did some shields, but she's Homura.
04:50:23 syv: Everyone used magic aside from the totems. Even Sayaka, and she was the most subtle about it.
04:50:32 syv: Not much time to show stuff yet though, so it's kinda fair.
04:50:33 MidJag: The goddamn angel of death would be more comforting
04:50:57 syv: Confused at what just happened
04:51:42 MidJag: Oh hey like blue maigc in FF
04:52:04 syv: Please go fleshorror please go fleshorror please go fleshorror
04:52:17 MidJag: I want this to become the thing.
04:52:19 Devastator: "Hey, Alida, you have any ideas on how to get into that wing of the hospital?" "Yeah!" "Ones that won't cause properly damage?" "Uhhhhh."
04:52:41 ER: speaking of creative magic, there was that girl in that webcomic with the giant scissors who makes a copy of herself by chopping herself in half, then each copy uses half the scissors as a sword.
04:53:09 Devastator: linked a MG themed webcomic.
04:53:16 ER: probably cooler than this ;p
04:53:26 Devastator: "Forget what I just said.
04:53:32 Devastator: "MY wish, an important find"
04:53:53 syv: This is annoyingly realistic for a bunch of teenage girls
04:54:05 Devastator: dangit, missed the last set of messages.
04:55:48 MidJag: this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
04:56:03 Devastator: Stupider than vampire squash?
04:56:15 syv: (
syv) This is annoyingly realistic for a bunch of teenage girls
04:56:31 MidJag: Ah see, I only had brothers, didn't ever really see that.
04:57:08 ER: I can't believe that blue is fucking dead
04:57:27 MidJag: I'm so confused wha tthe hell is happening?
04:57:49 Devastator: the group split up, so now they have to get back to the plan.
04:57:50 syv: Lesbian drama I'm guessing
04:58:17 MidJag: Don't they konw each other?
04:58:33 Devastator: yes, they're part of the same team. They'd just split up and now are trying to reconcile. This is weird.
04:58:44 syv: Yes, but the one is being moody and separating from her.
04:58:54 syv: It's a psuedo romance thing that's only half romance.
04:59:02 MidJag: Just punch each other for a bit and the apologize in like a half hour. Simple.
04:59:09 Devastator: and now monsters, because monsters make everything better.
04:59:25 MidJag: So wait she wrote their name on the staircase?
04:59:33 Devastator: apparently she did.
04:59:54 syv: It's a pretty stupid at least.
05:00:05 Devastator: this might have been taken from the mobile game.
05:00:18 syv: The entire plot was taken from the mobile game
05:01:01 MidJag: okay...what the fuck was that?
05:01:11 MidJag: I feel like I miseed something here.
05:01:19 syv: It was a witch enforcing the dumb staircase curse.
05:01:36 MidJag: So why can't they just kill her and get blue back?
05:01:37 Devastator: witches don't talk.
05:01:43 ER: nothing says that every monster is a witch~
05:01:43 syv: They'll kill the witch, then have a tearful "I still love you" scene and then their plot bit will be finished and we go onto the next thing.
05:01:45 Devastator: I think that's going to happen.
05:01:50 MidJag: Nah, vapurganstic did ish
05:01:56 syv: Ah yes, sexualized end card.
05:02:12 MidJag: ....yeah I"m getting high for this.
05:02:31 ER: a wish could totally create a monster to enforce itself.
05:02:52 MidJag: I mean laughing is a form of communicating.
05:02:56 ER: and the staircase thing seems exactly dumb enough to be the result of a wish
05:03:05 Devastator: That'd be some wish.
05:03:47 MidJag: Man,
syv I'm sorry, teenage girl drama sounds like it sucks.
05:04:15 syv: The staircase thing sounds exactly dumb enough to be a random rumor some idiot made up.
05:04:29 Devastator: with you there,
syv.
05:04:39 Devastator: aww, weren't we going into the combat yet?
05:04:43 ER: and any idiot can come up with a rumor and then magically enforce it
05:04:43 MidJag: Man, that would be a cool wish.
05:04:54 syv: "I wish perpetual motion machines were possible"
05:04:55 MidJag: Just tell physics to go fuck itself
05:05:14 syv: Yeah, Kyubei wants a solution to entropy?
05:05:27 MidJag: Actually yeah, that would be genius.
05:06:22 syv: I hate the nursery rhyme background
05:06:48 Devastator: "Wait, I thought I'd see myself in those memories."
05:07:12 syv: Her sister's name is terrible
05:08:44 ER: in all cultures, it is required to torture the new guy
05:08:48 MidJag: Oh hey she's a respec machine
05:08:58 syv: She sounds *very* much like devil homura in the eng dub
05:09:10 MidJag: Respec machines can be evil
05:09:18 Devastator: Homura would chew up that lady for breakfast.
05:09:37 MidJag: wait, didn't they just see blue?
05:09:50 MidJag: Or did it take the other one?
05:10:22 Devastator: hmm, could be a respec machine.
05:10:30 syv: "Bring fourth grade power within you"
05:10:31 Devastator: also could be why they need a respec machine.
05:11:03 ER: stop telling me to buy gems, show!
05:11:08 Devastator: "Do you want to change your powers?"
05:11:37 MidJag: not gonna lie that's a cool staircase.
05:12:19 ER: behold my unreasonable power level!
05:12:23 Devastator: we can only endure, syvarris.
05:12:32 Devastator: although these are pretty good.
05:12:49 MidJag: Okay kicking your sword into shape is pretty cool
05:13:00 Devastator: only have to do them once.
05:13:14 Devastator: but yeah, these aren't bad.
05:13:17 MidJag: Lot more polearms this time around
05:13:37 Devastator: You can't do 'jump off a building' as your theming element unless you have wings.
05:13:41 ER: embrace your idealized self!
05:14:43 Devastator: These people have terrible spot checks.
05:15:03 syv: No spot check successes in PM3 either
05:15:15 Devastator: Yeah, they weren't great.
05:15:30 MidJag: Why is she dressed like a pokemon?
05:16:00 syv: STOP CRYING AND MURDER SOMETHING
05:16:19 syv: Those earrings are dumb, too
05:16:45 Devastator: okay, fail THAT spot check.
05:16:57 MidJag: ...okay that's pretty cool
05:17:07 Devastator: laser rave to the skies.
05:17:11 MidJag: ....Are we abuot to watch murer to disco?
05:18:03 Devastator: Get.. To.. The.. MURDER.
05:18:08 MidJag: This is like the opposite of murder
05:18:32 MidJag: This is just emotions. I don't want emotions,. I just want pretty murder.
05:18:47 MidJag: pretty murder would be a good band name.
05:19:39 MidJag: GET TO THE GODDAMN MURDER!
05:20:51 MidJag: This is stupid. But pretty.
05:21:14 Devastator: lightning fingers, baby.
05:21:38 syv: They're just using battle as a background for the dramatic reconcilation.
05:21:48 Devastator: so.. a normal anime show, then?
05:22:26 syv: A mirror totem would be interesting.
05:23:25 syv: Still, pretty much called it.
05:23:53 MidJag: Wait, what happened to respec machine?
05:23:55 syv: Hey, did she steal Slan's robe design?
05:24:01 syv: Respec machine doesn't help.
05:24:12 syv: She just drains people and sends them to die for her.
05:24:15 Devastator: "I want the power to change into someone else.", by the way.
05:24:35 MidJag: I guess Slans is red planets but same thing yeah
05:25:01 Devastator: doppleganger girl's wish.
05:25:24 MidJag: I feel like we're gonna get to hte end of this and uri is going to turn out to be reznov.
05:25:46 Devastator: Flash screen had a translation. I just went back.
05:26:42 MidJag: Reznov is a guy from COD black ops. Essentially he's just a hallucination a charecter has and he's actually been doing all the things reznov has been doing.
05:27:17 MidJag: Black is the center I guess
05:27:31 syv: Nah, it'll be a new antagonist
05:27:51 MidJag: And I thought I saw red in the trailer.
05:27:56 Devastator: Can't be Homura, she was around for the longest month in history.
05:28:26 ER: I'm really not bothering to keep track of this
05:28:45 ER: did pink's counterpart from episode 1 die or something
05:29:25 MidJag: And I think this will be my last one. I have an interview tomorrow.
05:29:51 syv: ...Or not, it's 13 instead of twelve. That's weird.
05:30:19 Devastator: ..isn't 13 the normal total?
05:30:23 Devastator: with 12 being weird?
05:31:03 ER: can't say it's better than italian cyborg girls shooting people in the head
05:31:18 MidJag: how is your guys's show?
05:31:28 Devastator: I haven't seen any of that, and I hate to say it but I'd agree with that.
05:31:39 MidJag: I'm willling to give it a few more episdeos before I pass judgment, but yeah.
05:31:48 Devastator: but this could be a lot worse.
05:31:59 MidJag: It's better than I expected honestlly.
05:32:16 Devastator: yeah. "Mobile game inspired" is an awful, awful line.
05:32:18 MidJag: Better than the star wars sequels
05:32:36 syv: It's not hard to be better than Disney Star Wars.
05:32:47 MidJag: True, it's a low bar but they still cleared.
05:33:44 syv: Is the entire show going to be dumb children conspiracies?
05:33:55 Devastator: Time to shake fist at
paris.
05:33:56 syv: They're *actively pointing out how dumb it is*
05:34:04 Devastator: Maybe it's one witch causing all this nonsense.
05:34:07 MidJag: I feel like that almost makes it worse.
05:34:12 syv: He did suggest skipping basically everything except the start and end
05:34:14 Devastator: a witch with a sick, sick sense of humor.
05:34:44 MidJag: No one makes V's without other people.
05:34:48 Devastator: I kind of want to see how stupid this can get, personally.
05:35:04 Devastator: but can do that myself if we decide to skip.
05:35:14 syv: Mm. Can't say I share that opinion, but I am interested in watching through.
05:35:27 MidJag: I'm honestlly happy to watch the whole thing. It's a nice stress reliver.
05:35:34 Devastator: Oop, we got a brave here.
05:35:44 syv: This is really the same level of fanfiction.
05:36:01 MidJag: I dunno, I've read some pretty good fanfiction~
05:36:02 Devastator: Yeah. You write better than something that became an official product!
05:36:13 syv: No, I write equallt poorly.
05:36:14 ER: considering PS, it's worse written than literal fanfiction ;p
05:36:25 syv: This is just focusing on different aspects.
05:36:31 MidJag: Oh kay that was a good line
05:36:43 MidJag: The transform that into a literal value
05:37:01 Devastator: did she shame her into eating everything?
05:37:26 MidJag: Either that or being a lich gives you quite the appititied
05:38:05 Devastator: Kid character who helps run a restaurant sounds like a decent character idea.
05:38:22 syv: I'm not sure whether or not I hate her.
05:38:34 MidJag: I like her, so she's damn positive.
05:38:35 Devastator: I'm not sure either.
05:38:41 Devastator: there's.. perhaps too many characters.
05:38:59 syv: The mobile game is a waifu collector
05:39:08 syv: No, that's NuBlue, Yachiyo
05:39:18 Devastator: isn't newblue the doppleganger?
05:40:15 syv: NuBlue is the Neptune ish girl who's kinda the personality of red.
05:40:34 syv: Doppelganger girl is... not really following any old char
05:40:41 syv: She reminds me of Neptune a lot.
05:40:42 Devastator: the water powers one with the witch robe.
05:40:54 MidJag: No I mean who is neptune?
05:41:26 MidJag: Thought this was like a differnt charecter or something from something I hadn't heard of.
05:41:26 Devastator: The king of the sea?
05:41:28 syv: It's okay, just the drugs.
05:42:02 syv: Yeah, I think it is the roman name. I forget the greek name.
05:42:34 ER: everyone knows that greeks are way cooler than romans~
05:42:56 syv: Romans are angrier and more about war, obviously they're better.
05:43:22 ER: also spartans did it better~
05:43:33 MidJag: The romans were like yeah all this greek stuff is cool, but like what if we actually gained territory.
05:43:55 Devastator: Greeks mostly fought with each other, anyway.
05:44:11 Devastator: like in every single way possible.
05:44:45 Devastator: These spot checks man.
05:44:46 MidJag: I had an RA that was just like orange.
05:45:52 MidJag: Always doing things, relentlessly chipper, and bouncy.
05:46:38 MidJag: Sounds like a 50's sitcom theme show
05:47:01 syv: I have basically zero comprehension of what is happening.
05:47:05 syv: They're hunting deals now?
05:47:16 syv: Aaaand familiars shopping too.
05:47:24 Devastator: They're hunting the witch, and the dark one there is taking the others along.
05:47:32 Devastator: how do you make that one and miss eht earlier ones?
05:47:35 MidJag: But why is she buying pasta?
05:47:44 Devastator: because apparently these ones need to eat.
05:47:58 MidJag: Techincally Red was also alwyas eating.
05:48:11 syv: (PM3 MGs always needed to eat, pretty sure)
05:48:27 Devastator: Homura never ate anything.
05:48:39 syv: Okay, screw it, I like Bouncy because of fire,
05:49:38 Devastator: prolly just a stray familiar
05:49:50 MidJag: I'm so confused. What the hell is going on?
05:49:54 syv: Ah yeah, that was a thing.
05:50:00 syv: Always felt that was dumb.
05:50:08 MidJag: The grocery store was just to buy pasta?
05:50:13 Devastator: they're following a rumor.
05:50:17 Devastator: and yes, just to buy food.
05:50:28 MidJag: I though kyube couldn't get into the city
05:50:41 Devastator: I'm calling him cutebai.
05:50:54 syv: KittenBae is the alternative that appears inside.
05:51:06 syv: Normal CuteBae can't appear inside
05:51:23 MidJag: What is with the stamps?
05:51:30 MidJag: Pink keeps getting stamps on her.
05:52:17 MidJag: Well that was...something
05:52:52 MidJag: PM3 had better pacing that is for sure.
05:53:05 syv: PM3 had better everything.
05:53:19 Devastator: To be fair, PM3 had astonishingly good pacing.
05:53:20 MidJag: Also do know who elevator girl is?
05:53:21 syv: Except, *possibly*, animation. And I don't think there either.
05:53:23 Devastator: and exceptional everything.
05:53:33 MidJag: And why the end credits keep focusing on her?
05:53:59 MidJag: Well that was something.
05:54:01 syv: PM3 had probably the best pacing I've seen in anything ever
05:54:14 ER: when will they introduce the grimdark dard red haired girl
05:54:40 syv: Isn't elevator girl Neptune?
05:54:45 Devastator: yeah, I'm with you there,
syv.
05:55:18 ER: elevator girl is offbrand homura
05:55:28 Devastator: but she's got a crescent-moon shaped soulgem.
05:55:32 syv: No, hair is the same length.
05:55:33 MidJag: I want to see Black be the devil again.
05:55:53 MidJag: or you know fight pink or whatever the fuck the ending of that movie was.
05:56:15 MidJag: I feel like it was bitter sweet but I'm still not sure.
05:56:18 syv: The end of that movie was sequel bait.
05:56:45 ER: and then they DIDNT MAKE A FOOKING SEQUEL
05:57:04 syv: They did release the trailer for the sequel, back in like 2015
05:57:04 MidJag: So apperentlly Japan made an anime about their least succsseful battelship but it's futurisitc and flys.
05:57:31 syv: Yeah, and it has a fuckoff huge cannon
05:57:59 MidJag: Techincally so did the orignal yamato.
05:58:21 syv: Yeah, Elevator girl is Neptune.
05:58:42 syv: Same hair color, length, eye color, shape, and seemingly the same height.
05:58:47 syv: Also water motifs in the ED.
05:58:48 MidJag: Seems odd they'd pick her for credits.
05:58:55 MidJag: She doesn't seem like a main enough char
05:58:57 syv: She's obviously important.
05:59:13 syv: She's the first NuGirl seen, and has just had a central role in an ep.
05:59:26 syv: Well, first in the new city.
05:59:46 Devastator: ..yeah, I think so.
06:00:02 MidJag: Wait which ep. We just saw mirror girl do stuff.
06:00:07 syv: Yeah, she was the one that interrupted the double witch fight.
06:01:02 MidJag: But like still. So neptune is mirror girl just to be sure?
06:01:14 syv: Mirror girl is the doppelganger
06:01:37 syv: Neptune has stars on a blue dress, and a spear
06:01:54 syv: NuMami is the gold haired leader lady
06:02:09 syv: And tits is the respec lady who'ss the obvious villain
06:02:13 MidJag: hmm, what did she do in the chain ep? That seemed to be mostly Numami and dopple.
06:02:32 syv: She helped hit the bell and talked with NuMami
06:03:12 MidJag: And in this episode was she leading the shrine quest? Becuase I thought that was bouncies friend.
06:03:28 syv: Pretty sure she *is* bouncy's friend
06:03:28 MidJag: So she is bouncies friend?
06:03:45 MidJag: .....This show has too many charecters with the same hair.
06:03:57 ER: I think they're different though?
06:04:16 ER: maybe approximately the same color but different shape, sometimes?
06:04:20 MidJag: Right, I think they're different.
06:04:29 MidJag: Anyway. I'm gonna go to bed.
06:04:38 syv: The problem is more that they overlap with the old colors, and some of them are kinda debatable
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06:04:59 ER: it's just "oh shit we made a game about collecting characters and are now making a show based off that, what do we do with this massive pile of characters?"
06:05:00 syv: Like Neptune's hair is a dark Navy and looks blackish in some lighting
06:05:53 ER: and they can't leave anyone out cuz all the waifu collectors would get upset if their fave wasn't in ;p
06:06:28 syv: The wiki has 148 character pages
06:06:39 syv: Which is actually lower than I expected.
06:06:59 syv: I also know there's a BUNCH of release chars for the main cast, there's at least four Madokas.
06:07:27 syv: Still, I'm guessing they really are just using the most popular 10% of the characters.
06:08:10 syv: Let's see if there's a category: madoka
06:09:27 ER: what's your favorite madoka,
syv?
06:15:45 syv: We gonna watch anything else tonight?
06:17:27 syv: I have stuff to do but I can put it off,
06:17:59 ER: I'd ask for your thoughts on cabal but
pw made it sekrit :V
06:18:10 ER: but we can watch that anime with the guns, sure
06:18:35 Devastator: eh, I'm just worried I won't have time to do stuff.
06:18:41 Devastator: but eh, that always, always would have been true.
06:19:34 syv: I guess
ER is choosing to give you free time,
Dev.
06:19:44 syv: Unless you want to join us midway through the show?
06:20:03 Devastator: Nah, I haven't even started. Maybe another time.
06:20:43 ER: think he's talking about cabal in his strange, oblique way
06:21:39 ER: never will be enough time,
dev~
06:22:46 syv: I shouldn't be so surprised you like this show.
06:23:07 syv: Maybe I should actually listen to some of Dubs' other recs
06:27:48 ER: obviously they follow orders
06:28:26 syv: This is increasingly making me feel like making another forum game about tormenting little girls.
06:28:45 syv: It has a good setting for interesting mechanics.
06:28:56 syv: Players as the handlers, with less control over the children.
06:29:08 syv: I think this one I'd make the genders free, though.
06:29:52 syv: No risk of romance when the players don't actually play the lobotomized children.
06:31:42 syv: Between missions there could be a nice training mechanic. Player chooses how to treat the kid, and how much time to spend on different types of training versus socialization, affecting stat distribution.
06:32:05 syv: Would work pretty well with the CQB system's mechanics.
06:32:41 ER: can probably make your system easier to work with if it's always NPCs fighting...
06:33:16 syv: Character death would be a bit odd, since the kids are replaceable. Might implement that as a choice--if you have enough favor or whatever resources, you get a new kid (or you can buy a new one early)
06:33:32 syv: If you can't afford a new child, you lose and a new player gets a spot.
06:33:59 ER: well, they can be repaired pretty well
06:34:04 syv: Earlier version of that VP9 you shot.
06:34:20 ER: could just go
ER and make it basically impossible for them to really die
06:35:29 syv: *secret* insanities for each child!
06:35:55 syv: Could probably roll something off one of
Piecewise's tables,
06:38:59 ER: see, this has pathos that I care about.
06:39:15 ER: and it doesn't waste my time
06:43:48 syv: So I guess the only point of that was explaining this one random side character.
06:44:31 ER: self-contained, yet part of something greater!
06:47:59 ER: it's a little confusing how it cuts out like that
06:50:04 syv: My guess is that the cut is because of how the OP is cut into a different video.
06:50:44 syv: Uploader just wanted to save size on the torrent, and that's the price.
06:52:11 syv: Spying missions would be annoying.
06:52:17 syv: Too much thinking and writing.
06:54:01 syv: That's what they're called?
07:06:40 syv: Why even do the bluff technique if someone's gonna go through the window?
07:07:48 syv: "It's the wealthy children we're out to protect"
07:08:19 syv: I guess this is a communist dictatorship.
07:08:32 syv: Think that's all for me tonight.
07:08:38 syv: I'm too tired for intrigue.
07:09:13 syv: I also kinda wanna save it for when I have more time/ability to write a system, anyway.
07:09:18 ER: I'm sure this next one will be all carnage~
07:09:39 syv: But I do that too often to projects, shelve them forever in hopes of a better time, so I won't do that.
07:12:06 ER: I don't think you can really be taking system notes at the same time as you're watching something for the first time.
07:12:26 syv: Do you mind if I use some of the faction stuff you wrote? With Acerima and Sovereign?
07:12:35 Devastator: umm.. that's not what a communist dictatorship is like..
07:12:50 syv: I forget whether I got the basics of PM3 on the first or second watch.
07:12:56 syv:
Dev, the rebels said that.
07:13:20 syv: I was joking about the republican terrorists wanting to protect the rich people from the government.
07:13:56 syv: And yes, I know Communists weren't really better on that front.
07:14:11 syv: They're just an easy far left dystopia.
07:14:36 ER: every movement is about them ;P
07:15:17 syv: But yeah, I like how this would work with the CQB system. Since players aren't the characters, and more give them general direction, some chars being used as secondary support isn't as much a problem.
07:16:06 syv: Nobody's actually playing the chars shooting people, so it's about the same deal for you personally whether your kid is breaching doors or sniping.
07:16:17 syv: And people could potentially have multiple kids.
07:17:33 syv: The setting also acts as a great justification for the exclusively urban direct action missions the game is mesnt for.
07:18:06 syv: You're a gov hit squad, not a versatile PMC.
07:19:18 syv: Writing is the sticking point. I don't think it'd be a problem to run this as a secondary thing from PS if it's just a mechanically heavy game with only a little bit of framing writing.
07:19:45 ER: if you're comfortable with it
07:19:46 syv: But if it were full-on description of the children and missions, that would likely be difficult.
07:20:15 syv: And honestly if you're making a story about children being used as murderbots, that's begging for descriptive pathos.
07:20:37 syv: Might be better to run something more about actual robots, much less pathos and story there.
07:21:21 syv: Mmm, girls frontline. Robots that *are* little girls.
07:24:18 syv: Yeah, the one chick who changes names a bunch plays it, doesn't she?
07:24:31 ER: She changed names exactly once.
07:25:28 syv: That'ss enough when one checks the happy thread once every two years.
07:35:51 syv: Conditioning I think would be two mechanics. Every time you condition the kid, they lose a bit of humanity, and that has its own effects the lower it gets. Some positive, most negative.
07:36:05 syv: But every conditioning lets you choose what's basically a feat from a list.
07:36:17 syv: And you *have* to pick two or so to start.
07:36:54 syv: Kids initially selected from a procgen list of candidates, I think?
07:37:09 Devastator: what would you call this?
07:37:13 syv: Or should players just get no choice? Or maybe only able to choose limited criteria?
07:37:28 Devastator: I'd probably go with limited criteria.
07:37:35 Devastator: you get your pick of three or four.
07:39:02 syv: If players get no choice it gives me more room to write an interesting kid. If I have four procgen kids, and the player can choose any, then they might choose one that I have no ideas for. I could only provide kiss that I have ideas for, throwing out boring ones, but that means I'd be throwing out a lot of good ideas if the kids don't get discarded.
07:39:40 syv: Limited criteria would mean they get saddled with a kid that matches basic desires somewhat, and means I can just take the first generated kid I can do stuff with.
07:40:22 syv: I want to keep away from too writey, so pick one from a list is probably better.
07:41:09 ER: I'd go with a generated list
07:42:31 syv: Need... random history gen, random stats, random insanities, random disability maybe? Disability adds a human element and makes the protagonists feels slightly less evil--you can have the choice of saving a kid who rolled terminal illness for instance, and pretend you're a good person for getting them healed.
07:43:23 syv: And I like how that'd give some players a choice between powergaming the kid choice, and thinking about them as people who can be helped.
07:43:39 ER: by subjecting them to things which will invitably result in a very young death!
07:43:53 ER: kind of like wishing to not die, really~
07:44:25 syv: Yeah. It's never truly a kind choice at the end, but the player has the choice of thinking about it that way.
07:46:04 syv: Also, if some of them have minor issues that they could totally still live with, that just adds to the feeling that the operation really isn't good. They freely allow the handlers to choose children who have families and means, instead of the child cancer patients.
07:46:18 ER: I'd probably go for evil science lady who pretends to care just to squeeze out a little extra productivity.
07:46:55 syv: Also want to have history genned for each kid, just so it can be brainwiped and they mostly forget it.
07:47:06 syv: I wonder if any players would choose *not* to play a sociopath.
07:49:20 ER: she's a girl. I like girls.
07:51:17 syv: I'd make a comment about the other meaning of Fuck, but I think Nature's a child :X
07:51:39 ER: I think she's like a year younger than me?
07:52:23 ER: still a rude joke to make about a fellow forumite, though~
07:52:52 Devastator: What's your elfquest character currently doing?
07:53:34 ER: what did you expect a particular of instinct to look like? ;V
07:53:48 syv: I don't care so much about her age as the fact that she acts like she's 16.
07:54:12 syv: If she's 21 and acts like a teen, it's still creepy.
07:58:29 syv: Ah heck, Forgotten Weapons did the PSL!
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08:02:04 syv: 80s remix of a 50s song made in the 20s.
08:03:01 Devastator: where's the 2010 cover for that.
08:04:44 syv: Found a 2013 and 2009 cover for it, no 2010s on the first page though
08:57:51 ER: Oh yeah, I'll be going back to work in a week
08:59:19 ER: I won't die. Only other people, as a direct consequence of my actions!
09:01:19 syv: the darksign brands the undead
09:01:33 ER: Acerima, the most benevolant country on the planet
09:01:56 syv: Youtube won't let Ian link to sites that sell guns in his video descriptions.
09:02:15 syv: But they do let him link to his own site, which doesn't sell guns but links to a site that sells them.
09:02:43 ER: well, it's not on their site then is it
09:03:59 syv: It's just so amusingly obvious and transparent.
09:18:16 ER: darn it, now I really want to see
syv's cyborg killer children game
09:19:44 syv: But I slept like four hours tonight, it ain't happening right now.
09:19:54 syv: Remind me if I don't talk about it for a week.
10:59:15 syv: 10/10, Sekiro would be improved by using *this* design
10:59:33 ER: pls from, make games more anime~
11:00:06 syv: What's the one about blood and gasmasks?
11:00:29 ER: it's somewhere from okay to not good
11:00:30 syv: I wonder if that lets you play a monster girl
11:00:48 ER: it lets you play as an edgy vampire girl
11:00:59 ER: those are the two options there
11:01:05 syv: I think that only counts on a technicality. :(
11:01:27 ER: (though there's a not of character customization so maybe kinda)
11:01:52 syv: Ooooh, "Pokemon as dark souls bosses"
11:02:01 syv: Too bad I can't actually watch that today
11:20:18 ER: I wonder why I decided to stay awake up to the point of physical pain
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22:42:15 Devastator: Heya
Piecewise_ too.
22:42:54 Devastator: Got a sec? I'll list what I'm looking for.
22:51:44 Devastator: A thaumic item that does healing.
22:51:46 Devastator: A thumic item that repairs things.
22:51:47 Devastator: Some item related to manufacturing a weapon, or, failing that, some item that would allow the duplication of non-magical but very difficult to reproduce items like charged mainsprings or that radioactive pellet.
22:51:54 Devastator: A barrel of Magicoal
22:51:55 Devastator: One of the rifles, a sword, and a grenade.
22:51:58 Devastator: Permission to examine and copy the library of books recovered from the core room. I'd like them returned, but they can borrow them for enough time to examine them and make copies.
22:52:00 Devastator: That's what I'm offering.
22:53:34 Devastator: You also mentioned something about just looking at the word-jade. I was assumign that getting a word off it left the jade piece blank, and it had to be put back. If that isn't the case, and you can just copy off it, I'd add in examining them to see if I can increase the die size of the words I have.
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