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00:49:08 Devastator: dunno what to go for.
02:20:39 Devastator: gotta find the least christmasy task.
02:24:27 Devastator: prooobably not shackled undead slaves.
02:24:31 Devastator: I'd put that at 2/10.
02:25:00 Devastator: sorting everyone into naughty and nice isn't dissimilar to clensing the world of filth, so I'd call that one 3-4/10
02:25:10 Devastator: ..yeah we get to choose.
02:27:35 ER: no, you don't get to choose to not be turned into an undead servant
02:27:50 ER: that's something that someone else chooses for you
02:28:44 Devastator: Won't give me the credit, though.
02:29:56 Devastator: Chaos is ungradable. I'll put that moderately high.
02:30:02 Devastator: well, moderately low. 1.5
02:30:37 Devastator: got fire, and melting lead is similar to toymaking, so I'll pass on that one.
02:31:02 Devastator: water is lovemaking, which isn't that similar to christmas, but sleeping is. Not high.
02:31:25 Devastator: earth is being crushed to death. That looks good.
02:31:36 Devastator: Air is flying, and reindeer have that covered.
02:31:46 Devastator: so looks like earth.
03:06:48 Devastator: work to being two classes, master two sets of each things to get credentials for one class.
03:06:59 Devastator: ..but you don't need to name your skill anything to do with the chosen test.
03:41:41 Devastator: Elfquest, the Quest to Elf.
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04:19:19 Devastator: hope I'm understanding.
04:19:20 IronyOwl: so there's a major problem with your action, and it's that you have +0 in all those skills, so your final action will be at +0 and do nothing
04:19:25 Devastator: or not understanding but in an entertaining manner.
04:19:36 Devastator: Yeah.. what's the problem there?
04:19:47 IronyOwl: the nothing also applies to gaining experience in those skills
04:20:05 IronyOwl: gotta feed it with a +1 in at least one area, then you can train the rest up from nothing like that
04:20:46 Devastator: I see what you mean.
04:21:05 Devastator: ..but couldn't I get a +1 by reducing the effect?
04:22:09 IronyOwl: ...oh, I hadn't thought of that
04:22:20 IronyOwl: I think I'll say no to 1/10th normal effect for that
04:23:01 Devastator: oh, thought it said 'half the magnitude'
04:23:11 IronyOwl: yeah the terminology is a bit messed up
04:23:30 IronyOwl: you can halve the "magnitude"- that is, the total skill level involved- for +1 to the roll, not the skills involved
04:24:02 IronyOwl: your problem is that your magnitude- the sum of all skills- is 0, thus the action's net effect will be nothing
04:24:15 IronyOwl: which is different from what numbers get added or subtracted from the roll (by default, nothing)
04:24:22 Devastator: oh, thought that meant +1 to the total.
04:24:38 IronyOwl: or the amount of stuff that's done- which is normally "normal", but can be multiplied by x10 for each -1 to the magnitude
04:25:56 Devastator: should swap those two sections.
04:27:24 IronyOwl: is it confusing? because of the order, I mean?
04:28:09 Devastator: no, but that'd explain where the +1 goes to.
04:28:38 Devastator: instead of saying +1 to the roll under the list of magnitude effects, and vice versa.
04:28:53 Devastator: Anyway, could I just swap in Fire?
04:30:31 Devastator: no +1 for a small-sized weapon? ;-p
04:30:47 Devastator: Aww, because it would be literally weaker.
04:30:51 IronyOwl: although I should probably tell you about the other reason your action won't work
04:31:17 IronyOwl: the whole thing is indoors, so there really isn't any material to grab... unless you try to harvest the walls
04:31:42 IronyOwl: or just grab some from stockpiles, but alas you're a commoner, so mitts off ya filthy prole
04:32:05 Devastator: well, can't do nothing about that, probably ever.
04:33:02 Devastator: and walls are fine.
04:36:06 IronyOwl: (walls aren't fine but you might not know that, and the reason why is potentially interesting)
04:36:55 Devastator: no, just didn't know what Commoner meant.
04:37:11 Devastator: I thought we'd get something in the categories we didn't pick.
04:37:22 IronyOwl: you do, they're just not listed
04:37:55 IronyOwl: for some bizarre reason you have a nice place to stay, stash your minions/stuff in, and throw wild parties at, for instance
04:38:29 IronyOwl: I should probably have figured out and listed your contacts, but I didn't think you'd want/need them this early
04:38:32 Devastator: Also, can't steal anything.
04:38:58 Devastator: I'd need it to be related to one of my three skills.
04:39:13 IronyOwl: and you're not stealing toys
04:39:23 Devastator: and I can't give someone a toy as a distraction.
04:39:30 Devastator: because I have nothing with which to make one.
04:39:52 IronyOwl: looks like I should have fleshed out the rest of the city after all
04:40:16 IronyOwl: there's potentially places to get stuff out there, but I didn't think it'd come up this early
04:41:01 Devastator: well, can change my action to explore, but don't have any relevant skills for that.
04:41:56 Devastator: (can apply Fire to.. anything, really.)
04:42:56 IronyOwl: yeah, one of the points of Precepts is that they're super broad
04:43:33 Devastator: I'll come up with something.
04:44:28 IronyOwl: I'll work on everyone's contacts and post those, so if all else fails you'll probably have a buddy who can loan you some stuff or otherwise help you out
04:45:45 Devastator: Don't worry, I'll get all those 1s missing from Oz's game here.
04:46:04 Devastator: Can I get a +1 to the roll to intentionally not find anything?
04:48:10 IronyOwl: like faking looking for toys or something?
04:48:42 Devastator: Nah, look for stuff but only think about recovering it rather than actually getting it.
04:49:37 Devastator: looking at the rules.
04:51:49 Devastator: Does that look better?
04:54:21 Devastator: confusion. Oh well, exploration would be like really useful.
04:54:38 Devastator: should try to clear both precepts without having skills in the relevant precepts.
04:55:13 IronyOwl: with the skill system and teachers being as they are, that's entirely possible!
04:55:19 Devastator: Doesn't seem unlikely.
04:55:30 Devastator: I think it was earth and then death or water that were the least christmasy.
04:55:57 IronyOwl: I dunno, being crushed could be related to chimney diving
04:56:30 IronyOwl: mistletoe is christmas related, so I dunno if sleeping with your teacher is COMPLETELY unrelated
04:56:49 IronyOwl: murdering and then reanimating a rival is admittedly not very christmas-like, though
04:56:56 IronyOwl: don't think there's any precedent for that one
04:56:59 Devastator: yes, but being a bound slave..
04:57:17 Devastator: Chaos I couldn't grade.
04:57:30 Devastator: It is a holiday, though.
04:58:23 Devastator: sleeping with teacher is probably possible, but what I think I'd do is steal someone else's recommendation for that one.
04:58:28 Devastator: not sure about death.
05:05:35 Devastator: thanks for showing up, needed some direction.
05:10:53 IronyOwl: np, sorry about it being a lil wonky
05:11:04 IronyOwl: ah, those silly elves~
05:12:08 Devastator: should get ridiculous, really.
05:12:18 Devastator: dunno if any skills will be earned.
05:15:13 Devastator: It's a 5 or 6 to earn two xp in a skill, right? and a roll for each one?
05:32:12 IronyOwl: one roll per action, but the xp is applied to each skill used; if fewer than 3 skills are used, the "lost" xp is soaked up the skills that are
05:32:22 IronyOwl: so if you use just Fire and get a 5, you get +6 Fire xp
05:34:12 Devastator: oh. Then no, definately not doing that.
05:34:18 Devastator: doesn't give anything to learning new skills then.
05:35:27 IronyOwl: it does if you're using new skills in the action
05:36:25 IronyOwl: your current action would give +2 xp to Fire, Metal, and Exploration/Harvesting on a 5, for instance
05:36:36 Devastator: and I can't drop fire.
05:36:56 Devastator: so... dropping either one of the other two would raise it to 3 on a 5-6.
05:37:05 Devastator: on the remaining one.
05:37:15 Devastator: which doesn't help.
05:47:19 Devastator: hope I'm not being too harsh.
05:56:43 IronyOwl: it's a janky system, but I feel like it gives a lot of freedom
06:03:20 Devastator: I hope it doesn't get overrun by min-maxers.
06:05:26 IronyOwl: our crop seems pretty derpy so far :p
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17:04:37 Piecewise: WHERE WE LANDING THIS THING
17:04:54 Piecewise: and you guys are just walking away as though its landed
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22:44:58 Devastator: it was land in moffett.
22:46:20 Devastator: Same sort of place we left from.
23:09:33 Devastator: maybe the same exact place if there's enough space.
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