ERLOG 2020-04-23

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00:36:36 ER has joined #einsteinianroulette
00:48:42 Devastator: heya
00:48:55 ER: ye
00:49:00 ER: hello there
00:49:16 Devastator: anyone else make 51?
00:49:42 ER: not that I know
00:50:15 Devastator: NO MORE QUESTIONS, YAY.
00:50:18 Devastator: ;-p
00:50:51 ER: do you need a standard hephaestus limit of nine questions per turn?
00:51:16 Devastator: Nah, I'll be doing no more of those questions after I next update.
01:24:01 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Ln6su5kOI&feature=youtu.be
01:24:03 Devastator: Welp.
01:28:38 ER: mm
01:28:39 ER: good
01:35:37 Devastator: peak downfall.
01:37:07 ER: yes
02:18:59 ER: https://store.steampowered.com/app/775580/ITTA/
02:19:08 ER: looks pretty good
02:25:34 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
02:28:03 Devastator: connor...
02:28:08 Devastator: hey syv.
02:28:11 Devastator: got the show.
02:28:24 ER: hello
02:28:36 Devastator: though can you wait ten or so minutes? Rewatching an episode of Confinement.
02:28:57 ER: which one you watching?
02:29:54 Devastator: Swordsman.
02:31:13 syv: Can wait.
02:31:18 syv: Don't know what confinement is.
02:31:38 syv: hey dev.
02:31:39 ER: the animated SCP series on youtube that I linked some time ago
02:31:54 syv: Ahh
02:32:06 syv: Oh, I scored 51 on the block game.
02:33:09 syv: Think I'm gonna speedhack it with cheat engine now, see how high I can get.
02:33:22 Devastator: niiice work.
02:33:23 syv: Maybe use the picture to trick fools into thinking I'm a genius.
02:33:31 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NfAvqpt8_w
02:33:37 Devastator: got your question?
02:33:44 ER: You could probably go until the level counter breaks
02:33:46 syv: Not nice, I did it by boredly spamming buttons for like three hours...
02:33:52 Devastator: eh.
02:33:53 ER: because difficulty caps out at 9.9
02:34:13 syv: No, can I just keep the question until I have something I want answered?
02:34:26 Devastator: Nope, gotta ask before the next update.
02:34:30 Devastator: took me.. 39 minutes.
02:34:50 syv: How long did it take me to get 50?
02:35:39 syv: About an hour, looks like.
02:35:56 syv: When is the next update?
02:36:39 ER: my fingers ached when I got to 51 and it didn't take me many tries
02:39:32 Devastator: this weekend, probably.
02:39:46 Devastator: I'd still rather you do it not at the last moment, because I don't want to get interrupted while writing.
02:41:00 Devastator: which would be a shorter and less complete answer.
02:47:50 syv: 51 @ 3.6 time.
02:49:39 Devastator: speedhacks?
02:49:41 Devastator: dang.
02:50:36 syv: You KNOW I've speedhacked DaS, this shouldn't surprise you. :P
02:52:04 Devastator: you also said it above.
02:52:08 Devastator: ready for the movie?
02:52:57 ER: give me a few
02:53:27 syv: Yeah, whenever. Apparently can indeed speedhack the game to 0.0% speed.
02:53:43 syv: That'd be a nice hotkey to have for DaS, an actual pause button.
02:56:26 syv: 101 @ 7.5
02:58:53 Devastator: heh
02:59:37 ER: potato chips, mint tea
02:59:50 Devastator: grape juice.
02:59:57 Devastator: maaaybe I should have gotten a fancy sandwich, but ok.
03:00:30 ER: a fancy sandwich is one that has meat AND lettuce on it
03:00:52 ER: so, castle?
03:01:14 Devastator: I have fancy cheese!
03:01:17 syv: And, 9.9 on level 141.
03:01:35 syv: Ready.
03:01:45 syv: File name has a typo...
03:01:53 ER: tehe
03:02:02 syv: Teehee~
03:02:04 Devastator: ready
03:02:08 ER: TehePelo
03:02:14 ER: ready
03:02:24 syv: 5
03:02:25 syv: 4
03:02:27 syv: 3
03:02:28 syv: 2
03:02:29 syv: 1
03:02:31 syv: 0
03:02:39 syv: Cat monster.
03:02:42 Devastator: would count as an 80s show, too.
03:02:42 syv: 1986
03:02:44 Devastator: mow.
03:02:52 ER: cat
03:02:55 Devastator: rotoscoping!
03:03:09 syv: Sky pirates!
03:03:15 ER: beep beep
03:03:17 Devastator: the second best kind of pirates!
03:03:32 syv: Now if only they were furries.
03:03:36 ER: skyrates
03:03:46 Devastator: they'd be furry sky pirates?
03:03:57 syv: Reference to tale spin.
03:04:02 Devastator: ahh, yes.
03:04:14 Devastator: have to check who is the composer for this.
03:04:20 ER: granny with a gun
03:04:29 Devastator: this is very 80s animated music.
03:04:44 Devastator: these guys are doing pretty good.
03:04:55 Devastator: so they going for hostages or just stealing from the passengers?
03:04:56 ER: waste your ammo, will you
03:05:10 syv: Hostage, I bet.
03:05:18 ER: bop
03:05:23 Devastator: yeah, braids is looking protagonist to me.
03:05:34 syv: Also, nonlethal.
03:05:38 Devastator: also, that's about saeko's hairstyle, except with one braid.
03:05:51 Devastator: yeah, kidnappers.
03:05:58 Devastator: this is insanely dangerous.
03:06:03 syv: I remember that guy!
03:06:12 ER: wheeee
03:06:45 Devastator: ok, is she dead and this is about the next person to find that crystal, or can she fly/float?
03:06:58 Devastator: mmm.
03:07:00 syv: Crystal allows flight. Kinda. I think.
03:07:01 Piecewise: You guys are watching Laputa eh?
03:07:05 Devastator: Aye.
03:07:08 Piecewise: Neat
03:07:14 Devastator: had to after that suggestion.
03:07:16 syv: Why are you here now? We don't have questions!
03:07:22 Piecewise: Ok.
03:07:24 Devastator: I always have questions!
03:07:32 Devastator: but I'll save them until after movie.
03:07:36 syv: Not how propellers work...
03:07:42 Devastator: magic propellers.
03:07:52 ER: no questions, but i do have suggestions~
03:07:56 ER: blo
03:07:59 Devastator: dang.
03:08:03 Devastator: who is the composer for this, PW?
03:08:08 Devastator: I know I've heard this composer.
03:08:09 syv: You are very suggestive, yes.
03:08:24 Piecewise: Joe Hisaishi
03:08:25 ER: maaagic
03:08:30 Devastator: Thanks!
03:08:31 syv: Magic rock!
03:08:36 Piecewise: he's Ghibli's standard composer
03:08:42 Piecewise: did most of their movies
03:08:45 syv: Joe, huh?
03:09:21 Piecewise: Mamoru Fujisawa
03:09:27 syv: Hmm. Think he's a kid, or just really short?
03:09:29 ER: girl falls out of the sky
03:09:32 Piecewise: Joe is his stage name of sorts
03:09:33 ER: normal
03:09:47 Devastator: Yeah, not unusual in Japan.
03:10:08 ER: pretty strong
03:10:10 Devastator: watch that temp lightweight spell.
03:10:17 Devastator: hey, kid looks like a worker. ;-p
03:10:29 Devastator: coal chucking, yeah.
03:10:37 Devastator: "A girl fell from the sky."
03:10:40 Devastator: "Get back to work."
03:11:30 ER: just yeet a wrench
03:11:38 Devastator: yeah, kid be stronk.
03:11:38 syv: The eng VAs are much better in this movie than in Eva.
03:11:47 Devastator: oh, I'm listening in Japanese..
03:11:50 Devastator: Braaake!
03:11:51 Devastator: same!
03:12:19 Piecewise: Ghibli was imported to america by disney, so they have a budget
03:12:24 syv: Unless the VAs are just horrid I prefer Eng so I can appreciate the art, and glance down at IRC.
03:12:36 syv: And a lot of experienced voices.
03:12:56 Devastator: mmm, this one I think I prefer in Japanese.
03:13:01 Devastator: I have to read it anyway.
03:13:01 Piecewise: Has the kid played trumpet yet?
03:13:03 ER: I just like reading :P
03:13:26 Piecewise: trying to sync up with you guys using a probably different video file
03:13:27 syv: No, Dubs.
03:13:27 Devastator: nope, we're still very early on.
03:13:36 Devastator: kid sleeping in home.
03:13:38 Devastator: with book.
03:13:40 Devastator: ..wow.
03:13:40 syv: We just passed 11:00
03:13:46 Devastator: ahh, girl gets bed.
03:13:49 syv: I'll say go when we get to 12:00, kay?
03:13:57 Piecewise: kay
03:14:02 Devastator: shack with roof hatch.
03:14:03 Devastator: trumped
03:14:07 Devastator: trumpet.
03:14:11 Devastator: birds
03:14:15 ER: burds
03:14:24 Devastator: that's a kid who likes his trumpet.
03:14:29 Devastator: playing.
03:14:31 syv: Go.
03:14:37 Piecewise: Coolio
03:14:41 Devastator: This is.. pretty excellent.
03:14:46 ER: toot
03:14:46 Piecewise: I do love this mining town's design
03:14:49 syv: Yeah
03:14:59 Devastator: Extremely fine, very fast-paced, but not too much so.
03:15:02 Piecewise: all built into the cliffs and such
03:15:02 syv: All Ghibli movies are great, far as I've seen.
03:15:14 Devastator: efficient worldbuilding and there's plenty of room for character so far.
03:15:17 syv: Though admittedly most I watched as a child, so...
03:15:30 Piecewise: Ghibli varies between "Classic" and "Pretty good". None are really anything less than that
03:15:45 ER: roll to dodge burds
03:15:49 Devastator: pet birds.
03:16:08 Piecewise: Huh
03:16:12 syv: Yes, feed the birds. Don't give the girl food.
03:16:13 Piecewise: I have two english dubs on this
03:16:14 Devastator: This kid is a good person.
03:16:33 ER: tell me of the angel lore in this world, movie
03:16:37 Piecewise: Man, the boy's voice is a LOT deeper in the disney version
03:16:49 Devastator: that what the king key looks like?
03:17:12 Piecewise: its the inspiration for it, though it doesn't look exactly the same
03:17:15 syv: I'm guessing I've got the Disney dub, kid's voice is deep.
03:17:19 Devastator: whoops.
03:17:26 Piecewise: Damn, kid is made of depleted uranium
03:17:28 syv: Jeez, that's some crap brickwork.
03:17:32 Devastator: yes.
03:17:34 Devastator: and yes.
03:17:35 Piecewise: busted straight through like 3 layers of bricks
03:17:41 Devastator: kid's gonna be tough as hell with his work.
03:17:46 ER: maybe he's the angel
03:17:57 Devastator: since he seems to be doing it and not underfed, and has energy when not working.
03:17:57 syv: Maybe the necklace has the reverse effect with males.
03:18:03 Devastator: that kid's got energy.
03:18:06 Piecewise: Man, landing on bricks would hurt
03:18:13 Piecewise: Heh
03:18:17 ER: and then the laugh
03:18:18 Devastator: Yeah, but this kid is full of beans.
03:18:20 Devastator: he'll take anything.
03:18:31 ER: he's a droid, surely
03:18:37 Piecewise: I've got the subtitles on. In japanese he said "My head is harder than my boss's fists" Which is....a different connotation
03:18:52 syv: Nah, he's Anakin. C3-PO is the bird frame that was just ignored.
03:19:04 Devastator: I like this kid, he isn't Anakin.
03:19:13 syv: ...Fair point.
03:19:28 Piecewise: He should try spinning
03:19:33 Piecewise: thats a good trick
03:19:36 ER: no
03:19:37 Devastator: yes, reflect it.
03:19:51 Devastator: the kid would be hell to raise in this age.
03:19:57 syv: No proppellers.
03:20:18 Devastator: dude got a picture.
03:20:26 Devastator: that good evidence there.
03:20:38 Piecewise: Miyazaki's father was an airplane manufacturer. He knows how to do it right, He just chooses to go fantastic
03:20:43 ER: land pirates!
03:20:55 Devastator: Who is Miyazaki?
03:20:59 ER: boy's pretty fast on the uptake
03:21:00 syv: Miyazaki?
03:21:04 Piecewise: Director of this movie
03:21:09 Piecewise: and most Ghibli movies
03:21:12 syv: Why are there so many creative geniuses with that name?
03:21:15 Devastator: this kid has the full package, really.
03:21:29 Devastator: big future ahead of him.
03:21:40 Piecewise: These are some GREAT suits
03:21:50 Devastator: Yes.
03:21:51 ER: oh no, that boy has long hair!
03:21:54 Devastator: say all you need.
03:22:08 Piecewise: TIME TO GET MAAAANLY
03:22:09 Devastator: This is really great. I like those poses.
03:22:32 Devastator: oh god.
03:22:35 syv: HRRRNGH
03:22:41 Devastator: dude, you don't get in a fistfight with a coal chucker.
03:22:44 Devastator: ever.
03:23:20 Devastator: that pirate's not bad.
03:23:34 ER: they seem amused
03:23:43 Piecewise: This disney dub sure adds a lot of chatter in the background
03:23:44 Devastator: this probably happens once a week.
03:23:53 Devastator: not much to do.
03:24:03 syv: Makes sense, they kinda just got in a fight with a gang
03:24:10 Piecewise: Like all that talking while she was looking there? Not in the original
03:25:14 Piecewise: Fucking german grenade
03:25:15 syv: I was wrong, they got in a fight with an entire town...
03:25:23 ER: okay, so mama will just toss a grenade at a crowd
03:25:30 Devastator: sky pirates.
03:25:57 syv: Jesus
03:26:01 ER: wow, property damage
03:26:04 Devastator: I see we have th law of cartoon hijinks here.
03:26:14 Piecewise: Thats a thick lady
03:26:19 syv: Soon, multi-track drifting
03:26:44 ER: that's a crit
03:26:46 Devastator: how you gonna stoke the fire now?
03:26:48 ER: with the shovel
03:26:56 Devastator: 1d3 x 3.
03:27:25 Devastator: It's the fuzz?
03:27:28 Devastator: Scrooge McDuck?
03:27:34 syv: Nah
03:27:38 syv: The *actual* villains
03:27:41 Devastator: someone less dangerous.
03:27:57 Piecewise: Train tank
03:27:58 Devastator: sunglasses.
03:27:59 Piecewise: tank train
03:28:12 Devastator: kid's got the whole package, indeed.
03:28:20 Piecewise: Third degree burns there
03:28:24 Devastator: "Ram the armoured train."
03:28:32 Devastator: could be, depends on the steam.
03:28:52 ER: mama doesn't give a fuck
03:28:53 Devastator: might not be too bad.
03:29:09 Devastator: gem gonna help?
03:29:19 syv: Of course.
03:29:39 syv: Man, fifty feet to either side and they'd've gone splat.
03:29:41 Devastator: can ours do that?
03:29:51 ER: don't dare let go
03:30:00 Piecewise: Try jumping from somewhere high
03:30:10 Piecewise: "Gonna be alright"
03:30:17 Piecewise: "Oops bottomless pit"
03:30:21 Devastator: Eh, gonna have wings, so..
03:30:23 Devastator: low-risk.
03:30:23 syv: That'd be problematic, with wings.
03:30:34 Devastator: eh, wings and unnaturally light.
03:30:36 Devastator: sounds ok.
03:30:44 syv: Huh, were those k98s?
03:30:45 ER: huh, I can see why a sky pirate would want that :P
03:30:53 Devastator: Yeah.
03:30:55 Devastator: ..yeah.
03:31:50 Piecewise: Thick ass bread
03:31:56 Devastator: miner bread.
03:32:00 syv: Thicc ass-bread
03:32:12 Devastator: is this where the toast in mouth thing got started?
03:32:23 syv: Nah, too recent
03:32:48 Devastator: those mountains aren't that unrealistic, syv.
03:32:48 Piecewise: Ah...when was castle in the sky...
03:32:49 Devastator: ;-p
03:32:54 Devastator: 1986
03:33:01 Piecewise: Yeah
03:33:01 ER: damn cia
03:33:08 Devastator: spooks.
03:33:11 Devastator: should call them spooks.
03:33:19 Piecewise: G-men
03:33:58 Devastator: Pazu?
03:34:05 Devastator: that the kid's name?
03:34:06 Piecewise: Pazuzu
03:34:06 syv: That's his name, yeah,
03:34:15 Devastator: The kid is named after a demon?
03:34:16 Devastator: huh.
03:34:25 Devastator: appropriate.
03:34:38 ER: people in this movie seem really fine with the things that are happening
03:34:54 Devastator: That was blue collar folks back in the day, ER.
03:35:00 Devastator: things happen.
03:35:06 Piecewise: Gotta roll with them punches
03:35:10 Piecewise: or ya don't survive
03:35:21 syv: Yeah, that's... not terribly unusual even today?
03:35:29 Devastator: The good ones, yeah.
03:35:56 Piecewise: more common in places where people aren't highly educated and thus highly specialized.
03:36:07 Piecewise: huh
03:36:19 Piecewise: Apparently its called "Volculite" in japanese
03:36:26 syv: Yeaaah guess that fits this area.
03:36:34 Piecewise: Volucite sorry
03:37:13 Devastator: ..dude probably has it in his body.
03:38:27 syv: "Don't use powerful things you dig out of the ground. It'll cause the whole world to heat up and melt!"
03:38:57 Piecewise: I mean...dwarves well know the issues of digging things from the deep
03:39:35 syv: Yeah, but they normally don't care about global warming.
03:39:49 Devastator: better than elves. Nasty buggers swearing an oath on beings outside of existance..
03:40:25 syv: Aaggh trigger discipline
03:40:32 Devastator: Gendo Ikari mk 1 there.
03:40:39 syv: Damn evil germans
03:40:54 syv: She's British apparently, so nah, not her father.
03:40:58 Piecewise: Nice to give him a chamber pot, I guess
03:41:08 ER: FBI OPEN UP
03:41:12 Devastator: I'd bet she would promise to not behave unless they brought the kid along.
03:41:24 ER: not a cat
03:41:33 Devastator: yes.
03:41:34 ER: a cat boy could get through that
03:41:58 Devastator: "Hey ekrov, you want to be a catboy so you can squeeze through tight places?"
03:41:59 Piecewise: Thank god they camouflaged that castle.
03:42:06 syv: Agh I know this guy's voic3
03:42:13 Piecewise: which one?
03:42:18 Piecewise: general?
03:42:19 syv: The fat guy
03:42:27 syv: Yes
03:42:39 ER: spooks are cooler than the military
03:42:39 Devastator: General, at that fat you're a pencil-pusher too.
03:43:08 Devastator: He is kinda indestructable.
03:43:13 syv: Think he might've been from one of those plastic army men games, I loved those as a kid.
03:43:21 Piecewise: That fat man is played by Mark Hamill
03:43:29 syv: Huh.
03:43:34 Devastator: Robot.
03:43:42 Piecewise: Robit
03:43:43 ER: automaton
03:44:02 Devastator: That's being a bit too sanguine.
03:44:28 Devastator: mmm, so no microscopes.
03:44:39 ER: the symbol!
03:44:57 syv: No, Hamill played this dude who's talking right now. He's not fat.
03:45:00 syv: Muska.
03:45:02 Devastator: 'only in your hands.'
03:45:05 ER: hmm, might need a decsendant of the king, dev
03:45:11 Piecewise: ah
03:45:18 Devastator: yeah, dammit.
03:45:21 Devastator: could do it, but dammit.
03:46:34 Piecewise: kid is robust ain't he
03:46:43 Devastator: Indeed.
03:46:58 Devastator: kid prolly has 18 con.
03:47:01 Devastator: ;-p
03:47:11 syv: Jim Cummings, he played Sarge in those games.
03:47:19 syv: And now I start paying attention again.
03:47:33 Devastator: man, pretty impressive job hanging onto the kid there.
03:47:33 ER: :(
03:47:51 Devastator: oh, no, you aren't paying off a force of nature like that kid.
03:47:56 syv: Dude in the background, busy not giving a fuck.
03:47:57 ER: yes
03:48:07 Piecewise: Hell of a fortress eh?
03:48:22 Devastator: That's the kind of kid who'll build his own cannon to storm it.
03:48:24 Devastator: words.
03:48:31 Devastator: also dammit, that's a pain.
03:48:33 ER: kid's going to build an airplane powered by his powerful leg muscles and find laputa
03:48:40 syv: ^
03:49:06 Piecewise: That is a thick lady
03:49:10 syv: I've just noticed how small characters eyes are in this
03:49:14 syv: I love it
03:49:29 ER: no kid
03:49:35 Devastator: flying machine with leg muscles, ok.
03:49:36 ER: spend gold to make airplane
03:49:39 Devastator: also with a cannon.
03:49:40 Piecewise: yeah, Ghibli tends to have a fairly realistic style.
03:49:51 Devastator: yes, not giant eyes.
03:49:57 Devastator: okay, not a bad move there.
03:50:05 syv: Hah, nice strategy
03:50:31 ER: mama still doesn't give a fuck
03:50:35 Devastator: Man, you've seen that kid enough to know nobody lets him do anything.
03:50:37 Devastator: he just does it.
03:51:01 Piecewise: The style of eyes and their size varies by decade of anime too
03:51:21 syv: Apparently the 80s were top quality, then
03:51:27 Devastator: heh.
03:51:36 Devastator: uh oh.
03:51:41 Devastator: you might need a few more goons for this one.
03:51:47 ER: now that's a war machine
03:52:15 syv: Man, he fell in love pretty fast.
03:52:20 Devastator: said someone who is both clever and strong.
03:52:29 Devastator: They took away his new friend, before he'd even properly met her!
03:52:34 Devastator: It's not even about love.
03:52:57 syv: She means everything to him, though?
03:53:07 Piecewise: That wasn't the original line
03:53:08 Devastator: Well, yes, he looks to be about 10.
03:53:17 Devastator: that's how 10 year old boys work.
03:53:25 Piecewise: originally he just said "I've got to help her!"
03:53:28 syv: Ah yeah, different scripts.
03:54:12 Devastator: this is really good.
03:54:25 syv: Yeah.
03:54:31 Piecewise: Yeah, castle in the sky is one of my favorites
03:54:48 syv: Thanks for the rec of sorts, then?
03:55:03 Piecewise: Any of the ghibli movies are good
03:55:05 Devastator: ok, secret words.
03:55:40 ER: INFINITE POWER
03:55:48 Devastator: uh oh.
03:55:49 ER: I LIVE
03:55:53 Devastator: COWARD
03:55:58 Devastator: RUN RUN RUN
03:56:02 Piecewise: I HUNGER
03:56:16 ER: lucky that didn't kill him
03:56:39 Devastator: gonna need bigger guns.
03:56:52 syv: Hahahaha!
03:56:53 Devastator: ..yeah.
03:56:56 Devastator: way bigger guns.
03:56:57 syv: Fuckin' LASERS
03:57:02 syv: Oh man
03:57:12 syv: Piecewise, are the inactive golems like this?
03:57:19 Piecewise: maaaaybe
03:57:22 Devastator: I think he said there are different kinds.
03:57:23 syv: I gotta edit my action if they are
03:57:34 Piecewise: never know unless you look
03:57:35 Devastator: gotta look over those books too.
03:57:39 Devastator: maybe you can figure out those words.
03:57:43 Devastator: books and bots.
03:57:50 syv: What books?
03:57:57 Devastator: the ones from the king's room.
03:58:02 Devastator: a whole small library.
03:58:02 syv: Ah yeah.
03:58:45 Devastator: someone bought the deluxe robot.
03:59:09 syv: Laputan machines are actually pretty awesome, apparently.
03:59:16 ER: quick, order the bot to protect you with minimal collateral damage!
03:59:24 Piecewise: Lady get back here, I'm trying to help
03:59:38 Devastator: That guy's got dedication.
04:00:42 Devastator: excellent shot.
04:00:46 syv: Oh she'd be dead
04:00:49 syv: Fucking spalling
04:01:27 Devastator: that's a big laser.
04:01:48 Devastator: ...
04:01:51 syv: It's a conversion laser too
04:01:54 ER: ANY MORE MEATBAGS WANNA MESS WITH THE QUEEN
04:02:00 Devastator: also, who has fortress guns that can shoot at their own fortress?
04:02:03 syv: Turns whatever it shoots into explodium
04:02:08 Devastator: yeah.
04:02:12 Devastator: ER, you could do that.
04:02:19 Devastator: make a laser that turns things into explosives.
04:02:25 syv: You SHOULD do that, that's awesome!
04:02:28 Piecewise: Its the japanese style laser that makes a line and then the line explodes
04:02:29 syv: And very practical!
04:02:39 Devastator: yes, precise explosives.
04:03:05 Devastator: You mean there's something that can scare her off?
04:03:07 syv: Jesus, who makes a bodyguard robot that can raze an entire city singlehanded?
04:03:16 Devastator: People who don't belive in half-measures.
04:03:25 Devastator: besides their entire military might be like five of those things.
04:03:31 syv: Yeah I'm looking at those fucking golems
04:03:35 Piecewise: heh
04:03:36 syv: Oh man, Dev...
04:04:12 Devastator: those cannon are ridiculously accurate.
04:04:20 syv: Lucky I think
04:04:37 syv: Lots of misses far off.
04:04:44 ER: okay, if that kills the laputans prolly needed more than five
04:04:55 Piecewise: Nice that they include a harness on the ship
04:05:05 Devastator: nah, it coulda shot down the battlecruiser if it wanted too.
04:05:10 syv: Uncharactistically sane for anime.
04:05:22 Devastator: to.
04:05:23 ER: gottem
04:05:32 Devastator: and there probably aren't more than like two dozen of those battlecruisers.
04:05:35 Devastator: and probably fewer.
04:05:44 syv: I bet there's one.
04:05:51 syv: From how Sarge was talking
04:05:58 syv: I LOVE his english voice.
04:06:00 Devastator: I doubt it, if you only build one you don't call it 'a battlecruiser'
04:06:05 Devastator: you just use the name.
04:06:37 ER: poor robot
04:06:45 Devastator: yes, poor sad robot.
04:06:57 Devastator: Pazu's still indestructable.
04:07:01 Devastator: all is right with the world.
04:07:05 Devastator: ;-p
04:08:47 syv: Were their jap lines also appropriate for ten year olds?
04:08:55 Devastator: the pirates?
04:08:56 ER: yeah
04:08:57 Devastator: more or less.
04:09:14 Devastator: Ahh, pirate aircraft carrier.
04:09:19 Devastator: pirate flying aircraft carrier.
04:09:26 Devastator: still second coolest pirates.
04:09:34 syv: Who's first?
04:10:49 Devastator: television hijackers.
04:11:54 Devastator: maybe those are for counterrotation.
04:12:45 Devastator: enless supply of pink bottoms.
04:13:16 Devastator: get to work, yak herder! ;-p
04:13:23 syv: She has a painting of herself when she was young.
04:13:25 syv: Nice touch.
04:13:29 Devastator: missed that.
04:13:57 syv: 1:10:00 or so if you're curious enough to check after movie's done.
04:14:00 Devastator: about 1:10-ish.
04:14:04 Devastator: Kinda am, actually.
04:14:22 ER: hmmmm
04:14:36 Devastator: uh oh.
04:14:44 syv: >Japan
04:14:52 Devastator: also pirates.
04:14:55 ER: at least they get put to work
04:15:01 Piecewise: They all seem to be a bit touched in the head so...eh
04:15:23 Devastator: they do work, and they get fed.
04:15:26 Devastator: it's equal, really.
04:16:19 ER: she has an RPG round on her wall
04:16:27 Devastator: Totally in character.
04:16:38 syv: Panzerfaust actually, I think.
04:16:39 Piecewise: I would be surprised if she didn't
04:16:43 Devastator: surprised it wasn't a painting of an RPG round.
04:17:07 Devastator: oh man.
04:17:15 Devastator: she totally uses that to scare the watchman.
04:18:04 ER: DESTROY
04:18:06 Devastator: dangit, it is going to be passwords.
04:18:26 Devastator: going to have to scry it out.
04:18:53 Devastator: it's a min of two days kidnapping, and that might not work.
04:19:12 Devastator: ahh, soap opera.
04:19:20 Devastator: dun dun dun.
04:19:27 Devastator: kid gets the ten gold.
04:19:31 ER: wow
04:19:54 syv: Heh, impact rounds exploding against *clouds*
04:20:12 Devastator: magnetic proximity maybe?
04:20:21 Devastator: and yes.
04:20:26 Devastator: if it's impact that's silly. ;-p
04:20:32 syv: Oh, I bet I can examine the king's key to help figure out passwords.
04:20:49 Devastator: yeah. I'll probably need some view words.
04:20:56 Devastator: and a microscope or two.
04:20:59 syv: Magic third eye~
04:21:04 Devastator: even so.
04:21:21 Devastator: I'll do a scry to find out if you're looking for words or blood or something.
04:21:25 Devastator: or actions.
04:21:31 Devastator: for all I know they have motion components.
04:21:51 Devastator: okay.. that's.. eminently reasonable and effective.
04:22:02 Devastator: although I'd have two cables.
04:22:34 Devastator: eh, maybe just one.
04:22:44 Devastator: uh oh.
04:23:21 syv: Two might be an issue with their spooling system.
04:23:40 Devastator: that's no cloud..
04:23:41 ER: weather control
04:23:44 Devastator: that's a castle in the air.
04:23:49 syv: Eh. Fat TCU.
04:24:06 syv: Really doesn't look that weird.
04:25:15 syv: ...Ehh okay, CB.
04:25:51 Devastator: whoops.
04:26:09 Devastator: you won't be going to the dragon's lair today.
04:26:48 Devastator: mmm, kites can't fly without stays..
04:26:56 Devastator: yow.
04:27:04 syv: Oh they sure can in a thunderstorm.
04:27:07 Devastator: yeah.
04:28:27 ER: clutched it
04:28:41 Devastator: yeah, good landing.
04:28:58 ER: aka, one you can walk away from
04:29:11 syv: I give it a C. "Not lethal"
04:29:25 Devastator: You need to adjust that for this kid.
04:29:40 syv: Girl doesn't seem invulnerable.
04:29:49 syv: She just has a really high AC.
04:29:50 Devastator: Yeah.
04:30:00 Devastator: low AC, I'm old school.
04:30:06 Devastator: ;-p
04:30:14 syv: A really good AC, how 'bout that?
04:30:18 Devastator: it's fine.
04:30:25 Devastator: -4 or so.
04:30:52 ER: when you gonna run an adnd campaign for us, dev? :P
04:31:02 Devastator: It'd take a significant effort.
04:31:07 syv: Aww
04:31:15 Devastator: if you can find my old illustrator GM and get him here I'd seriously consider it.
04:31:19 syv: ...Yeah, I'd prefer catgame.
04:31:47 Devastator: I belive he's in south korea these days and is named John Chartres.
04:31:58 Devastator: or Jon, can never remember.
04:32:35 syv: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Chartres
04:32:41 syv: ;P
04:32:55 Devastator: Yes.
04:32:58 Devastator: also not him.
04:33:04 syv: Of course not.
04:33:35 Devastator: I've talked to people with wiki pages before. ;-p
04:34:17 syv: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_abbreviate_%22Wikipedia%22_as_%22Wiki%22!
04:34:22 Devastator: cool.
04:34:32 Devastator: and yes, I know.
04:36:03 Devastator: tjat
04:36:11 Devastator: those totally are pokemon. ;-p
04:36:11 Piecewise: Oh hey, those critters from Naausica
04:36:24 syv: They're adorable!
04:36:27 Piecewise: They show up in another ghibli movie
04:36:32 Devastator: mmm.
04:36:46 syv: I've never seen Naausea
04:36:46 Devastator: birbs.
04:36:46 ER: ghilbi cinemtic universe convirmed
04:37:06 ER: should watch that one
04:37:20 ER: I seem to remember a deadly spore forest
04:37:24 Devastator: maybe we should have brought more people.
04:37:27 syv: I'll find a torrent after
04:37:35 Devastator: got more Evangelion.
04:37:53 syv: ...I like this much more than Eva tbh
04:38:05 syv: Much much more.
04:38:06 Devastator: I'm enjoying this a lot.
04:38:09 Piecewise: Nausica is the origin of Dark Soul's ash lake
04:38:11 Devastator: but it's one movie.
04:38:33 Devastator: I'd rather not give up on EVA after 3 episodes.
04:38:44 syv: Fiiiine
04:38:56 Devastator: it hasn't even gotten really weird yet.
04:39:00 syv: We can resume Ghibli with Mononoke anyway
04:39:07 Devastator: yes.
04:39:15 syv: Damn Germans
04:39:18 Devastator: although that one's gated on the wolf, right?
04:39:22 syv: `1
04:40:30 ER: is there a "teleport invaders away harmlessly" spell?
04:40:45 Devastator: judging from the combat bot, probably not.
04:41:13 syv: Man, that's some ridiculous finger strength
04:41:15 Piecewise: This kid has no fear of heights and very good grip
04:41:22 Devastator: Kid makes all his saves.
04:41:33 syv: Aren't even visible marks in the wall.
04:41:37 Devastator: he's got a +4 for precociousness, and a +8 for protagonist.
04:41:42 syv: Fricking spiderclimb
04:41:56 ER: oof
04:41:59 Devastator: wow, he can bleed.
04:42:03 syv: Holy hell, he--yeah
04:42:20 ER: that was deflected by his stone skinn
04:42:39 Piecewise: He tanked a grenade
04:42:47 Devastator: in an enclosed space.
04:42:59 Devastator: well, he's dirty, so..
04:43:15 ER: quite a gun
04:43:22 Devastator: That kid deserves it.
04:43:40 Devastator: why do you care, general.
04:43:58 Piecewise: He never did like Muska
04:44:03 Devastator: block room.
04:44:52 Devastator: the hell is that book..
04:45:11 syv: Research notes?
04:45:12 Piecewise: likely a bunch of notes from whatever accounts he could get hold of
04:45:16 Devastator: yeah.
04:45:26 Devastator: core?
04:45:45 syv: Yyyyup
04:46:00 syv: I was already wondering if removing it would destroy everything...
04:46:17 Devastator: Maybe if it was flying.
04:46:31 Devastator: but yes.
04:46:35 Devastator: there's some regret there.
04:46:46 Devastator: we could still try to pay them off with magicoal and a fighter or two.
04:47:04 Devastator: okay, that's something.
04:47:11 Devastator: there any stones like that, Piecewise?
04:47:32 Piecewise: Like what he was using to control it?
04:47:35 Devastator: Yeah.
04:47:41 Devastator: they'd be tied down, so still there.
04:48:10 Piecewise: You haven't seen one, though the control room might be a good analog
04:48:19 Devastator: mmm.
04:48:57 ER: hey, nuke
04:49:00 Devastator: I think you'd find that in the outer wall, syv.
04:49:13 syv: Just build a death star in your floating city, why not.
04:49:20 syv: Sodom and Gommorah?
04:49:23 Devastator: you have one, you have all.
04:49:32 Devastator: dude, that's a hologram.
04:49:49 Devastator: well, that was obvious.
04:50:24 Devastator: "Flaptors"
04:51:30 ER: invincible!
04:51:37 Devastator: Pazuzu gekohands.
04:51:52 ER: okay, there's a lot more than five of them
04:51:54 syv: Yeah, Dev, not just five.
04:51:56 Piecewise: That is one fucked airship
04:51:59 Devastator: yes.
04:52:05 Devastator: but they're not using the giant lazers.
04:52:20 Piecewise: Like a mountain goat with gecko feet
04:52:28 ER: so he's a spook AND a king
04:52:35 Devastator: secret prince.
04:52:39 ER: two bad things
04:53:03 Piecewise: Heh
04:53:07 Piecewise: getting joker vibes here
04:53:07 ER: annhilate his soul
04:53:10 Devastator: yeah, so far pazuzu has brains, strength, speed, gekohands, indestructability..
04:53:23 Devastator: it's like he's a 18th level adventurer or something.
04:53:31 Devastator: except he rolled for stats.
04:53:31 Piecewise: Fucker just fired a grenade into a wall that was a foot from his face
04:53:33 Piecewise: and he's fine
04:53:46 Devastator: he got shot and he didn't even get more than scratched.
04:53:46 Piecewise: He should just jump off this thing and swim back
04:54:13 Devastator: okay, that'll piss him off.
04:54:39 Piecewise: Another headshot shrugged off
04:54:41 ER: he forgot that he needs to reload
04:54:48 syv: Wo
04:54:49 Devastator: Yes.
04:54:54 syv: That is SO RARW
04:54:57 Devastator: kid has triple-digit hit points.
04:56:06 Devastator: 3 shots.
04:56:06 Piecewise: This guy is a hell of a shot
04:56:09 syv: Niiice marksmanship
04:56:42 Piecewise: Bullet haircut
04:56:49 Piecewise: huh, its 3 minutes in the subs
04:56:52 Devastator: I think if he has three bullets left that wouldn't be enough to stop the kids.
04:56:53 Piecewise: odd choice
04:57:06 Piecewise: Reloading
04:57:21 Devastator: I don't know if six would be enough.
04:57:38 syv: It's much closer to a minute.
04:57:42 syv: That was about 50s?
04:58:13 Devastator: well, there's a one-word self destruct.
04:58:24 syv: Genius.
04:58:35 Piecewise: Not even a really complex one either
04:58:46 Piecewise: it was like two syllables
04:58:55 Devastator: well, someones going to be picking up a lot of gold.
04:58:57 Piecewise: And it sounded like "Balls"
04:59:11 Devastator: yeah, not kidnapping someone.
04:59:18 Devastator: they might tell the destruct word.
04:59:21 syv: "Bah-loose" was what I heard
04:59:39 Devastator: in the water.
04:59:42 Devastator: welp, time to go diving.
05:00:45 Devastator: oh, so it's a word to enter orbit.
05:01:02 syv: One of the tones in this song sounds near identical to my phone's notification noisw.
05:01:02 Piecewise: I wonder what the death count for this movie is. Lot of dead soldiers round here
05:01:17 Devastator: maybe 1200?
05:01:29 Devastator: the crew of that battlecruiser?
05:01:44 Piecewise: and the fortress
05:01:50 Piecewise: don't forget that got blowed up good
05:01:55 Devastator: yeah.
05:01:58 ER: I think it was... exactly everyone on the battlecruiser and nobody else
05:02:22 ER: we didn't see the robot kill anyone so it didn't ;p
05:02:48 Piecewise: Honestly surprised we didn't get voice over of someone yelling "They're ok!"
05:03:00 Piecewise: Like in a lot of dubs
05:03:17 Devastator: indestructable kid is alive.
05:03:19 Devastator: of course.
05:03:21 Devastator: ;-p
05:03:33 Devastator: Duuh.
05:03:35 Devastator: pirates.
05:03:42 Devastator: step one, fill pockets.
05:03:46 Devastator: then do everything else.
05:04:00 Piecewise: Living ain't living if you ain't got booty
05:04:19 Devastator: I was thinking, 'well, at least the pirates probably got paid.'
05:04:37 Piecewise: Laputa now in low earth orbit
05:04:52 Devastator: yeah, gonna take a few generations to get to it again.
05:04:54 Piecewise: with a bunch of oxygen deprived critters and a big dead tree
05:04:58 syv: Now they get to go back to their crappy life as coal miners.
05:05:01 Devastator: unless it can do that.
05:05:07 Devastator: eh, the pirates should cut them in.
05:05:10 Devastator: booty gets split up fairly.
05:05:13 syv: It prolly has the ability to maintain an atmosphere.
05:05:19 Devastator: and they seem like a pretty happy crew.
05:05:24 Piecewise: Booty gets split right down the middle~
05:05:30 Devastator: so probably wouldn't be any trouble.
05:05:32 ER: I think that the tree and crystal are in symbiosis now and probably keeping life support for the critters in the garden
05:05:38 ER: using maaagic
05:05:42 syv: ^
05:06:24 Devastator: Fine movie.
05:06:36 Piecewise: indeed
05:06:43 syv: Just fine?
05:06:49 Devastator: Syv.
05:06:55 Devastator: how often do I use fine like that?
05:07:03 Piecewise: Masterwork movie, menacing with spikes
05:07:03 syv: "It's fine."
05:07:12 Devastator: Differen't usage.
05:07:23 syv: Same word.
05:07:26 ER: if they set the movie generator to "very fine" then we would have an incident on our hands
05:07:29 Devastator: No, not at all.
05:07:45 Devastator: It's fine is "Things are acceptable."
05:07:47 ER: one fine ass
05:08:00 Devastator: Fine ___ is "This is unusually well done."
05:08:01 Piecewise: Dat movie is Fiiiiine
05:08:02 syv: Fine quality means +quality+
05:08:33 Piecewise: You guys would probably like royal space force too
05:08:49 syv: Yeah, only rank 3/8
05:08:51 Piecewise: we watched that on Discord and everyone liked it
05:09:03 syv: This is way better than a 3/8 movie.
05:09:05 ER: it was pretty good
05:09:14 Devastator: Mmm.
05:09:18 Devastator: if we're talking quality levels..
05:09:20 syv: Hey PIECEWISE
05:09:24 Piecewise: ye?
05:09:24 Devastator: I'd say this is probably second or third rank.
05:09:36 Devastator: discounting 'artifacts'
05:09:41 Piecewise: this is a question isn't it
05:09:44 syv: Ekrov is nobility in Ekrov, can he become a prince within reason?
05:09:59 syv: Dev is bugging me to have Ekrov make Saeko a princess.
05:10:07 syv: in *Cabal
05:10:26 Piecewise: Start your own little kingdom and you can call yourself whatever you want
05:10:35 syv: 6/7 if 2nd rank discounting artifacts, Exceptional quality.
05:10:36 ER: hey, all you have to do to do that is start your own nation
05:10:42 Piecewise: alternatively, just call yourself whatever you want
05:10:52 Devastator: which is about what I use Fine ____ to mean, yes.
05:10:56 Piecewise: I call myself a skeleton all the time
05:11:00 ER: and starting your own nation is as easy as making a painting world~
05:11:01 syv: ≡Exceptional≡
05:11:22 Piecewise: !!!GOLIATH!!!
05:11:48 Piecewise: Did I say I have an action figure of the laputa robot?
05:11:53 Piecewise: its pretty nice
05:12:11 ER: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/darksouls/images/7/74/Painted_World_of_Ariamis_01.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20130720053403
05:12:47 Piecewise: arms and legs are kind of like posable watch bands
05:12:55 Piecewise: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ea0AAOSwo2xb5A7J/s-l300.jpg
05:13:01 syv: A peaceful land with kind inhabitants
05:13:27 syv: That *is* pretty neat
05:13:28 Piecewise: and skeleton wheels
05:13:30 Devastator: yes.
05:13:39 ER: hey, do you think that the structure on Ariamis decayed over time, or was it just painted as ruins?
05:13:58 syv: 1:09:49 for the painting of young granny
05:14:26 Piecewise: hard to say
05:14:31 ER: the place looks like ruins from the outside, when you're looking at the painting
05:14:43 ER: so did the painting itself change?
05:14:45 Piecewise: it was a place to store things no one liked so...maybe they didn't care
05:14:57 ER: that's mean
05:15:12 Piecewise: Was blighttown always a giant sewer or did it just end up that way over time?
05:15:14 Piecewise: who can say
05:15:24 Devastator: ahh, good old pirate queen.
05:15:35 syv: They did jam a kid in there.
05:15:47 syv: So I'd figure the painting just changes.
05:16:11 syv: Then again, her doll says it was cold and lonely when she got there, but maybe it was just snowy and empty, but not ruined?
05:17:19 ER: painting a snow covered ruined castle for a kid to live in is pretty dickish
05:18:01 ER: eh, so is banishing your weird dragon child to a pocket dimension in general, I guess
05:18:13 syv: Well, they *were* afraid she'd kill them.
05:18:23 syv: And she's a horrible crossbreed monster.
05:18:25 ER: the biggest problem in dark souls land is that everyone's a bunch of fuckers, I swear
05:18:40 Devastator: endless dicks.
05:18:48 Devastator: now you know why I stabbed everyone in 3.
05:19:00 syv: ...It's weird that they locked her away
05:19:06 syv: Bleed kinda sucks against bosses.
05:19:16 ER: she doesn't attack the chosen undead, and she was raised in a lonely world with a bunch of monsters
05:19:39 ER: she's like, not very dangerous
05:20:09 syv: Does she even deal increased bleed damage to the *player*?
05:20:27 syv: I'm not sure she's ever managed to bleed me, and if so I wasn't paying attention/
05:20:58 ER: I'm not sure. That might be only an effect of the scythe and dagger
05:21:05 ER: in the player's hands
05:21:30 Piecewise: Howl's moving castle, Mononoke, Nausicaa and Spirited away are your big Ghibli movies to watch. Porco rosso, The Wind Rises, and Poppy hill are also good. Totoro, Cat returns, Ponyo are all aimed at kids more than anything
05:22:04 Devastator: mmm.
05:22:07 Piecewise: kiki is...kinda aimed at teens I think. Still fun.
05:22:09 ER: but yeah, the gods supposedly being afraid of "lifehunt" doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of what lifehunt is in the mechanics of the game
05:22:17 syv: I liked Totoro, but I was also a small child.
05:22:32 Piecewise: Earthsea and Arrietty are good too but not quite up to the same quality as the others to my mind
05:22:37 Piecewise: still very well animated
05:22:53 syv: Don't think I've ever seen Howl's, haven't seen naausea.
05:23:09 Piecewise: They're definitely worth a look
05:23:42 Devastator: hmm.
05:25:38 Piecewise: Earthsea and Poppy hill were done by Miyazaki's son...they have a complex relationship
05:25:51 Piecewise: he didn't really want to be a director apparently.
05:26:01 Devastator: mmm.
05:26:39 ER: I vote Nausicaa
05:26:47 ER: at some point in the future
05:26:52 Devastator: yeah.
05:27:03 syv: I'll agree with that.
05:27:47 Piecewise: I still need to read the manga for Nausicaa
05:27:58 Piecewise: its apparently pretty different from the movie
05:50:41 ER: hey syv, if you don't know what else to use your Question for, why not just get stats for evengelion monsters?
05:51:29 syv: I already know Kaiju use stats similar to normal units, and have a rough idea of where some Kaiju attacks map to unit stats.
05:51:42 syv: It'd be very little information gained.
05:51:52 Devastator: Kaiju don't use stats anything like normal units.
05:51:54 ER: yeah, but so is not asking anything
05:52:02 Devastator: some of their weapons use stats like normal attacks, but that's it.
05:52:08 syv: I'm not gonna ask nothing.
06:06:48 Devastator: Piecewise.
06:06:52 Devastator: I've been meaning to ask.
06:06:59 Devastator: What is the original wave-motion cannon?
06:12:13 ER: Piecewise, you still up?
06:21:39 ER: noooo?
06:27:29 ER: oh well
06:27:43 ER: was gonna toss some painting questions at him
06:28:40 syv: Awww
06:28:46 syv: I'd like to see those.
06:29:25 Devastator: questions!
06:52:42 syv: I hear, you buzzing, a fly on the wall...
06:52:51 Devastator: questions..
06:52:54 Devastator: and you have one.
06:52:57 Devastator: well, take your time.
06:53:00 ER: in through the window
06:53:04 ER: and up through the hall
06:56:19 syv: Ohp
06:56:26 syv: Softlocked at level 352
06:56:57 ER: damn one move softlocks...
06:57:27 syv: My fault, wasn't paying close attention and didn't realize it was a non-wall spawn.
06:57:30 ER: I don't think it's bad that softlocks are possible, but I wish that they were a little harder to basically spawn into
07:00:40 ER: https://i.imgur.com/wKk4COn.png
07:00:48 ER: something like that
07:01:14 ER: you start by a wall, but 2 out of 3 possible moves instantly fail you
07:02:13 syv: Well you realized that was a softlock pretty fast.
07:03:15 Devastator: haha.
07:03:52 Devastator: only level 352
07:07:55 syv: It's not really surprising, considering the great majority of my deaths are softlocks.
07:27:38 ER: glob.
07:28:01 ER: opposed to just giving Painting some mana in the same way mages can trade it?
07:28:23 ER: that might be all it takes to extend her life, maybe even let her use it to cast.
07:29:06 syv: I was considering asking whether she accomplished anything with her attempt to cast.
07:29:22 syv: It does imply she has some ability, since she could move her own mana enough to unravel.
07:29:39 ER: and hey if she can cast what sae can and I can just refill her myself, I am *definately* adopting this painting
07:30:06 ER: unless she would rather live inside of an artifical world than explore the world with me for somer reason
07:31:59 Devastator: mmm.
07:33:57 ER: Z now has d10+5 str, d8+5 end, and d8+5 will
07:34:04 ER: she must look terrifying
07:34:29 Devastator: Just go home.
07:36:22 syv: Ask about what Z looks like due to those
07:36:33 syv: +5s have cool effects
07:37:04 Devastator: Just go home.
07:37:49 ER: no, dev.
07:37:52 ER: I will not.
07:37:55 Devastator: of course.
07:37:59 Devastator: fuck PW, dammit.
07:38:28 ER: what are you complaining about, this time?
07:38:43 Devastator: same thing as always.
07:40:59 syv: Having a baby mage breaker along to spy on him.
07:40:59 Devastator: too many allies.
07:41:49 Devastator: It's having a PC baby magebreaker.
07:42:02 Devastator: an NPC I could bribe or maneuver around.
07:42:37 ER: well, it's probably a good thing they sent me, then.
07:42:37 syv: ...Both of which you can do to ER.
07:42:45 syv: Probably more effectively really.
07:43:11 Devastator: Nah, there was no need for them to send anyone.
07:43:17 Devastator: I'd have gotten the core for them anyway.
07:43:22 syv: An NPC has a good chance of just being diehard loyal no matter what, which ER isn't really likely to be.
07:43:32 Devastator: Nah, ER's guaranteed to be diehard loyal.
07:43:33 syv: You say, despite having suggested not giving them the core.
07:43:43 ER: he did?
07:43:44 Devastator: I've suggested it, yeah, but not realistically.
07:43:53 Devastator: it won't happen.
07:43:58 syv: Like, if there's no reason for them to send anyone... then it doesn't matter that they sent anyone.
07:44:16 syv: And you can benefit (have benefitted?) from having Zavi around...
07:44:35 Devastator: I have.
07:44:38 Devastator: and it's nice.
07:44:44 Devastator: but it's, you know, flavor.
07:45:03 syv: And having a cop watching you isn't flavor?
07:45:07 Devastator: Zavi gets max personal stats and unlimited mana and a slave.
07:45:33 Devastator: I get a couple of useful bonuses that could have been replaced by another d6 spell.. I like having them, but they're nothing that special.
07:45:33 syv: Oh no! Another player is benefitting from something we did, without actually costing us anything!
07:45:45 syv: How horrifying, we even like that other player!
07:45:52 Devastator: Heh.
07:46:03 Devastator: I'd just like some help with this whole core thing, or the drain project, or other things.
07:46:25 syv: From Zavi, you mean?
07:47:06 Devastator: yeah.
07:47:24 syv: You *could* try, y'know, asking the guy who plays Zavi.
07:47:41 syv: Maybe that'd work better than just cussing and telling him how much you hate having him around.
07:50:23 Devastator: It's PW I'm annoyed at, though, not ER. ER's just playing things in a sensible, reasonable way.
07:50:50 ER: I mean, so is PW
07:51:08 Devastator: Yeah. I mean, as a GM, the right thing to do is annoy me.
07:51:34 syv: (Devastator) I'd just like some help with this whole core thing, or the drain project, or other things.
07:51:39 ER: I still have no idea what you're actually annoyed about
07:51:40 syv: Doesn't seem like Dubs' fault.
07:51:52 syv: It's Dev.
07:52:03 syv: His grievances are a labyrinthine puzzle.
07:52:03 ER: you're ranting in a very vague way, as you do
07:53:01 syv: Think of it like a puzzle, figuring out what he's actually angry about. Then he becomes a fun game, rather than an annoyance.
07:54:19 ER: well, the puzzle's answer aught to be "ask in a consise manner", and the fact that it doen't work that may means its a wrong and bad puzzle ;p
07:54:28 Devastator: "Please don't keep copies of my character around as a personal servant."
07:54:54 Devastator: "Except I can't say that because your character is not something I can ask to do anything."
07:55:25 Devastator: "And was forced upon me because the GM decided it to be so."
07:57:23 syv: Eh?
07:58:19 syv: Ekrov created the animated person, he has a pretty strong argument in favor of deciding its fate. Saeko owns the painting's visage, and as stated before, Ekrov would probably change it anyway.
07:59:19 syv: Zavi's only argument in favor of keeping the painting without consent from Saeko (and by extension Ekrov) is "I'll give a negative report if you don't do what I want", which... is very dumb to do, and unlikely for her anyway.
07:59:46 syv: And you can totally ask Zavi to do a ton of stuff. You can't *force* her to do things.
08:00:10 ER: My argument would hypothetically be "she's a person and can decide for herself what to do"
08:00:28 ER: so it's not really something I'd demand of anyone, I'll ask her about it
08:00:31 syv: But forcing and asking are pretty different. This is why rape is considered a really terrible crime, despite sex usually being considered a really positive thing.
08:01:08 syv: *Insert insult about Dev's sex life*
08:05:08 Devastator: I don't see a NPC ever refusing a suggestion from a PC like that.
08:05:21 syv: Suppose I'll throw one more thing in there. Yeah, Dubs forced a cop to watch you, when you're doing an extremely important mission for the government. That's eminently sane and reasonable, unusually so for Piecewise. It can also be considered, very reasonably, as a slight challenge modifier for a mission that amounts to a raid on an unguarded treasure vault.
08:06:00 syv: In other words, you're complaining that after getting so much free shit thrown at you, there's some minor piece of challenge that you have to think around.
08:06:13 syv: (Devastator) I don't see a NPC ever refusing a suggestion from a PC like that.
08:06:16 syv: Like what?
08:06:25 Devastator: "Come with me and lets go adventure together."
08:06:26 syv: What event is this referring to?
08:06:45 syv: Oh, from Zavi asking Painting Saeko?
08:06:49 Devastator: Yeah.
08:07:43 syv: Okay. Doesn't mean you can't A) Tell Zavi not to do that, B) Ask ER (who I presume to be something approaching a friend) not to do that, C) Tell the NPC who you can literally control or destroy on a whim not to do that.
08:08:00 syv: Oh no, things aren't perfectly optimal, guarantedd!
08:08:28 syv: Oh, there's D) Ask the NPC not to do that.
08:08:32 syv: But that one's a die roll.
08:09:30 ER: I'm not even trying to roll to convince her, I just want to give her options...
08:09:35 ER: you know, humanely?
08:09:45 syv: Shush ER.
08:09:51 Devastator: please don't go around permanently with a copy of my character, ER.
08:10:08 syv: Define "copy of my character", please.
08:10:29 Devastator: identical statline, apperance, abilities, and behavior based on my own actions.
08:10:53 ER: No.
08:10:58 syv: Appearance and behavior would be different. Is that insufficient to remove the discomfort?
08:11:07 Devastator: No, they're only mildly different.
08:11:08 ER: I'll do what I want, based off of what I see as reasonable IC.
08:11:36 Devastator: Ok.
08:29:34 syv: Hey ER. Why won't you leave Gravid?
08:34:19 ER: Because Zavirius has to ensure that Saeko brings the city core back to Alkahest.
08:35:16 ER: Which is to say that the only reason why I'm here is a mission which hasn't been completed yet and I have no idea why dev keeps yelling at me to leave OOC as if that changes anything.
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10:24:01 syv: Hello, bot.
10:41:30 ER: 42, died one square away from the goal
10:47:39 syv: Sad!
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15:18:11 ER: Okay, so Painting's initial temporary spell acts like a sort of battery and drains over time. This is why she deanimated when trying to cast a spell; she used mana from the battery keeping her alive.
15:19:43 ER: We can just add mana to her without a spell, which either adds to the animating battery and keeps her alive longer, or creates an additional seperate battery.
15:20:08 ER: The bad news is that she can only hold 50 mana, and uses 5 mana a day to stay alive.
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23:17:37 Devastator: 'lo
23:17:44 Devastator: I'll go clean up saeko's sheet for you then, PW.
23:27:25 Devastator: Hmm.
23:27:59 Devastator: I'll go revert her back to her starting stats, then.
23:36:09 Devastator: Probably remove that word Permanent, doesn't make sense.
23:36:35 Devastator: I'll assume Benedict will last the trip back and then have the spells expire then, just for conveience sake.
23:37:23 Devastator: I'll drop the armour a grade to d6 with equivalent weight class. Assume it's got one steel cloth spell on it with a bunch of mana, and nothing else.
23:45:19 Devastator: ok, there's the line about permanent.
23:45:45 Devastator: Piecewise, you mind if I remove 'permanent' spells I don't really care about, and score up the ones I want to keep?
23:45:59 Piecewise: sure
23:46:22 Devastator: ok.
23:46:22 Piecewise: Part of why I posted that with no turn is because, while not a huge change, it will effect a few of you pretty heavily
23:46:35 Devastator: Yeah, glad I didn't go whole hog into it.
23:46:37 Piecewise: So it will probably take a bit to get everyone up to speed
23:46:45 Devastator: also going to be hard to go monster.
23:47:11 Devastator: eh, can live with that. I guess if I keep feeding this spirit it could power enchantments.
23:47:53 Piecewise: It may not be clear but you could still go full monster, you'd just have to keep making that mutation roll for each spell you dump on yourself
23:48:20 Devastator: oh, I thought self-affecting spells would take upkeep.
23:48:26 Devastator: right, that's for inanimate objects.
23:50:15 Piecewise: Basically for anything other than players because I don't want to have players sitting here paying mana each time they use an upgraded stat
23:50:32 Piecewise: Thematically it would make sense but it would be no fun
23:50:44 Devastator: mmm.
23:51:05 Devastator: I'll be redoing benny after we get back, so can I just have him sort of float until we go back to the capital?
23:51:25 Devastator: personal stuff I'll do now.
23:51:55 Piecewise: We're basically at the point in one of my longer running games where I have to admit that the players have broken things in a way I didn't foresee. And by float you mean just like...ignore the rule change till then?
23:53:20 Devastator: nah, just assume I pumped enough mana to keep benedict this way until the trip back, given that I had the duration planned out.
23:53:29 Devastator: so the spells will expire when the time limit does.
23:53:35 Devastator: and I'll redo them properly next time.
23:54:00 Piecewise: Alright
23:54:37 Devastator: I'll work out the IC stuff.
23:54:51 Devastator: that is, the character stuff.
23:55:36 Piecewise: Basically I want to keep all those levels you guys have (assuming you want to keep them) but I just also want to roll for all of them to see what happens
23:56:44 Devastator: mmm.
23:56:53 Devastator: yeah, I'll keep the pluses.
23:57:07 Devastator: probably lose some die increases, though.
23:57:29 Piecewise: I want to wait to talk to SY and ER and maybe Radio before I really do anything, but I'll work on that
23:58:03 Devastator: sure.
23:58:13 Devastator: I'll hold off for now then.
23:59:01 Piecewise: Benedict is organic, so he's fine. Salt is a summon though. We can assume she was fed till now
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