00:10:19 Devastator: "The one stable google trends line is 'porn' "
00:22:23 ER: I got caught up with this comic on what happens to be the very last page of a chapter
00:24:03 Devastator: and I looked it up. It.. might well be the one stable google trends line.
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01:10:24 syv: While fun, porn is not the one stable trend line. The is notably more stable than porn, especially over Google's entire history.
01:10:43 syv: Though the is oddly unpopular in August, and very popular in September.
01:13:33 Devastator: the definate article?
01:39:00 Devastator: a good word, but there are many others!
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03:15:58 Devastator: Come to think of it, someone did set off a stink bomb once in my school.
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03:44:25 Devastator: anything going on tonight,
syv?
03:44:29 Devastator: downloaded that anime.
03:45:54 Devastator: any more hurricanes coming?
03:45:57 Devastator: that's just what we need now.
03:46:55 syv: Haven't seen any news about them, but I don't track news too closely.
03:47:05 syv: Nobody's screaming, so probably not.
03:52:35 Devastator: I'll have the k-com rules up sometime tomorrow.
04:17:57 Devastator: just gotta update stuff.
04:18:01 Devastator: and add stuff to the armoury.
04:19:39 Devastator: Also,
paris needs a tiebreaking vote in draggygame.
04:19:49 syv: Well yeah but that's one player.
04:20:02 syv: I haven't read draggygame in months.
04:21:27 Devastator: you underestimate the number of boats Irony can ask for.
04:21:48 syv: Oh, he asked for them all already?
04:22:42 Devastator: I'd almost prefer it if he asked for a fighting boat.
04:25:40 syv: Either of you want to play a game?
04:26:21 ER: is the game global thermonuclear war?
04:26:53 Devastator: cooking some stuff up ATM, but not opposed.
04:28:00 Devastator: There are actual games like that,
ER.
04:32:15 syv: Well, probably not Hunt: Showdown because I haven't updated it in a long time. Though I'm at work so it aould probably update very quickly.
04:32:36 syv: Aside from that... you already have a pretty good grasp of what games I do or don't have.
04:36:54 ER: I'm just not very enthusiastic about multiplayer games
04:49:34 ER: oh yeah, I got a forum PM today from someone saying they have a crush on me?
04:50:25 syv: Do they have an add for furniture in their sig?
04:51:02 Devastator: someone likes cat ears, I guess.
04:51:59 ER: that's an explaination, I guess.
04:53:10 Devastator: I only recieve a couple of PMs that I didn't initiate a year.
04:59:58 Devastator: up for some surviv?
05:00:34 ER: yes, once I'm done eating this popcicle though
05:00:51 ER: viv is no game for one hands
05:01:23 ER: running to the liquor store?
05:02:40 Devastator: nah, he means the A button challenge.
05:05:15 syv: ABC is a spiderman racing map.
05:05:53 Devastator: don't know how laggy I'll be.
05:11:53 Devastator: huh, won't let me spectate you.
05:11:59 Devastator: needed a grenade badly there.
05:12:32 Devastator: yeah, didn't come up right for me.
05:21:42 Devastator: should ajust went for the kill there.
05:21:53 syv: Why'd you step back when first entering?
05:22:01 Devastator: I just wanted to see what was going on.
05:22:45 Devastator: I don't like entering those when they're occupied, unless I can get the guy from behind.
05:22:56 Devastator: in that one it looked like the people would be ready.
05:23:08 ER: man, this game is harder when you refuse to pick up 90% of viable weapons
05:27:00 Devastator: also, for some reason I'm getting the minimap of the previous round.
05:27:20 syv: Do we have any cooperative not-pvp games? ._.
05:28:50 Devastator: I think one more, I'm not feeling this today.
05:28:52 ER: what is this "co-operation" you speak of
05:28:54 Devastator: I'll see if I can find something else.
05:31:39 Devastator: Damn, I wouldn't mind talking you through DROD.
05:31:47 Devastator: that'd be a fun watch.
05:31:59 ER: wonder if anyone's made an online co-op cardgame roguelike
05:32:35 Devastator: It's called 'Life.'
05:32:36 syv: Though once Hearthstone had a game mode that kind qualified.
05:33:19 syv: Scrolling through games, I still have grief syndrome. Though I have like five different versions of it.
05:34:14 Devastator: I did find where Goblin Edition went on my computer.
05:34:31 ER: heh, I have grief syndrome. Though it still requires port forwarding and I've moved since I last played it
05:34:49 syv: I thiiink it only requires one person to port forward?
05:35:01 ER: yeah, but when we played that person was me
05:35:03 syv: Which would be
Dev because i'm at work...
05:36:13 Devastator: I got more bandwidth due to network upgrades, and now I have less bandwidth due to other people being continually streaming camshows 24/7
05:38:29 syv: What do you port forward past? I know you said you did it once.
05:38:45 Devastator: ..my actual router.
05:38:56 Devastator: I can do it, NP, just not sure about bandwidth.
05:41:48 Devastator: got two versions for GS.
05:42:05 syv: Whichever one is newer, I guess.
05:42:44 syv: And then start a game and test if bad homura has a set timestop period.
05:43:01 syv: Only one version has that, so if she does, it's the right one.
05:44:09 syv: I said that and I'm wrong.
05:44:45 Devastator: I don't remember the controls.
05:45:22 syv: They're set when you config them, mine are set to shift z x c, plus arrow keys.
05:45:31 syv: Should be a "configtool" in the game folder.
05:47:24 syv: Okay, I've found mine. Correct version should have a gs03.dat that is 34,562 KB.
05:48:15 ER: fairly sure I only have one version
05:48:51 Devastator: but that's 'nightmare edition'
05:48:57 ER: and I don't have a gs03 or any file with that size, so welp
05:49:27 Devastator: well, I'll fire up this one.
05:49:34 syv:
Dev, do you have one without GS03?
05:49:49 syv: Guess I could just upload it real quick, it's a small thing.
05:50:12 ER: wait, I have a gs03 in a different folder
05:50:55 Devastator: this one has 'your readme' inside it.
05:51:13 Devastator: it also doesn't have a gs03 in the base folder.
05:51:25 ER: mine has a mod but it doesn't say what mod it has :P
05:53:38 syv: Okay, I never actually took it *off* my dropbox.
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05:54:13 ER: should I download it too, just so we're all the same?
05:54:23 syComp: Yes. Everyone has to use the exact same mod.
05:54:40 syComp: Because technically we're all hosting the game, it's a very hackish online port.
05:54:55 Devastator: goddamn it, three copies. ;-p
05:55:07 syComp: This *should* be identical to one of yours,
Dev.
05:56:01 syComp: It should work with any mod version
05:56:09 syComp: Because all the mods change is gs03
05:56:25 syComp: And everything else is either identical or meaningless.
05:56:47 Devastator: yes, I have the goblin syndrome thing here.
05:56:52 Devastator: do I need to move anything over?
05:57:12 ER: should I run griefsyndrome.exe or griefsyndromemod.exe ?
05:57:17 syv: Put gs03 into the file with griefsyndrom.exe
05:57:32 syv: The former,
ER, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually matter.
05:57:49 Devastator: yes, parry mechanics are THE DEVIL
05:57:52 syv: Also the online one is the one that has to be run if playing online.
05:58:39 Devastator: ok, I should be set to host.
05:58:46 Devastator: talk me through the Japanese.
05:59:32 syv: Top left has two options, click the top one. Bottom one is for me and
ER.
05:59:49 syv: Top middle box needs us to put in
Dev's IP and
Dev's port.
05:59:58 Devastator: is it port 5055 TCP that needs to be forwarded?
06:00:02 syv: Top right has an option for 1 and 2. Click 2, it's how many players.
06:00:41 syv: Bottom right should be greyed out, click when both players connected.
06:00:56 Devastator: my external I.P. is 172.218.15.48
06:02:04 syv: Apparently guests need to click the upper right button to join after inputting stuff.
06:03:00 Devastator: yeah, I had to click it before something started.
06:03:40 Devastator:
ER coming? Or are there issues?
06:04:20 ER: I am. slightly distracted by this PM
06:04:52 syv: Is it a detailed description of what an Anon hopes your genitalia looks like?
06:05:14 Devastator: I saw you join and then leave.
06:05:34 ER: I couldn't tell I was really connected
06:05:50 syv: Oh. I suspect this will cause this to crash
06:05:59 Devastator: yeah, looks like it.
06:06:02 Devastator: this one is version 2.02
06:06:03 syv: Everyone needs to have the same fullscreen / windowed option selected.
06:06:21 Devastator: where do I set that?
06:06:25 ER: my windows said something about compatability
06:06:26 syv: Mine is set to FS and I think
dev was windowed.
06:06:27 Devastator: and are we doing windowed or fullscreen?
06:06:35 Devastator: yeah, mine was on windowed. Can fullscreen it.
06:06:42 syv: Checkmark at the bottom fullscreens
06:06:52 syv: Nah, windowed, unless you WANT fs
06:07:09 Devastator: I'd rather play in fullscreen, but chat is good.
06:07:42 ER: gotta love hacky online games made by people who speak a different language
06:07:58 Devastator: This is far better than the usual version of such games.
06:08:17 ER: too bad I can't type in that little window
06:08:32 syv: ...There actually is a kind of in game chat
06:08:49 syv: Make sure the top left box is set to the bottom option.
06:09:16 ER: same button to join or quit..
06:10:05 Devastator: dunno, got a black screen.
06:10:06 syv: It's not responding for me.
06:10:55 syv:
Dev, mind hosting 1p and then letting just me join?
06:11:02 syv: Detect whether me or
ER is the problem.
06:11:10 Devastator: I think you're the issue,
syv.
06:11:36 Devastator: ok,
er, set it to 1p, join.
06:11:40 ER: I think i remember having this problem before
06:12:34 ER: little window popped up and the game started
06:12:45 Devastator: yeah, same here, it started when I tried to close.
06:13:36 Devastator: there any other ports I need to open?
06:13:57 Devastator: or do I have the wrong version?
06:14:11 Devastator: yeah, but it's closed on my end.
06:14:12 ER: I believe that any port will work so long as it's the one we all put in
06:14:35 syv: Correct version is 2.02 with the gs03 I put up on drobox
06:14:49 syv: I seem to have the full game uploaded as well, if you want to try that I guess.
06:15:05 Devastator: yeah, the other version has a different splash screen too..
06:15:10 Devastator: it'd be noticeable.
06:15:23 Devastator: yes, lets try that.
06:15:36 Devastator: is the uploaded one the vanilla one or the NE?
06:15:37 ER: wouldn't it let us connect with the wrong version and just have horrible, horrible desync?
06:15:40 Devastator: just to know which one to replace.
06:15:45 Devastator: it might crash when trying to start.
06:15:53 Devastator: or do whatever the hell it's doing.
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06:16:31 sycomp: the gs03 contains all the NE changes
06:16:46 sycomp: I'd prefer playing NE because vanilla is stupid easy
06:16:57 Devastator: oh, I'm running what was NE.
06:17:14 ER: can't have easiness in our PM3 game! >:(
06:17:26 sycomp: NE is just vanilla + gs03 placed into the game folder
06:17:43 Devastator: but not the special gs03 you made for me.
06:18:05 syv: No, I modded NE into the gs03 that was linked in the goblin syndrome zip
06:18:11 syv: That's why I called it goblin syndrome
06:18:24 syv: The changes you disliked were caused by NE anyway
06:19:27 Devastator: so run the game we're downloading now, or copy over the one from Goblin Syndrome?
06:19:55 syv: Run the downloaded version to ensure no possible differences. Copy over the gs03 from goblin syndrome.zip
06:19:56 Devastator: I can deal with changes now that I've forgotten so much muscle memory. will prolly play someone else, too.
06:20:24 syv: I'm running default config, with windowed *unchecked*
06:20:33 syv: ...Which runs it in windowed.
06:20:50 Devastator: that must mean 'fullscreen' in moon language.
06:21:23 syv: It says "Start in fullscreen" next to the checkbox, which is pretty clear really.
06:21:30 syv: I'm just tired and bad at words
06:22:43 syv: Oh, apparently different saves cause desyncs/
06:22:57 syv: So if you've played since we last used it, that fucks it up.
06:23:02 ER: I forgot THAT amazing detail
06:23:24 ER: I just have to delete save0.dat, right?
06:23:26 syv: I feel guilty for recommending this now.
06:23:38 Devastator: ahh, fuck, that was probably it.
06:23:49 syv: If you download the one off dropbox, then the save will be same as me and
dev.
06:23:56 syv: But deleting it might also work?
06:24:12 Devastator: yeah, lets just delete it.
06:24:51 Devastator: this is still easier than some of those modded Spring games. ;-p
06:25:01 Devastator: and this is far easier than loading stuff into himem.
06:25:24 syv: Wiki also recommends running in Windows 2000 compatibility mode... but that it also can cause errors and break things too.
06:25:56 syv: I suspect
ER and I automatically got shunted to that, since we both got the compat problem window.
06:26:16 Devastator: I did get some kind of window partway through, but it runs in SP with no errors.
06:26:55 syv: Jesus, apparently this game is insanely popular in China.
06:27:17 Devastator: did someone make like a level pack for it?
06:27:22 syv: There's a guy on the talk page, back in 2019, saying they habe a community with >400 players, and they host online events every season...
06:27:35 syv: Not sure. People were working on it back when I started modding myself.
06:27:36 Devastator: That's about as popular as Alleg was when it was rolling.
06:27:55 syv: Don't see mention here about level editors, but I'd imagine they've got some other hub if they've made that.
06:28:38 syv: Chinese guy might be lying, advertises plugins that allow 60 fps framerate with 250ms latency, and then puts his email up without linking the plugins.
06:28:55 syv: I.E. "put my exe on your computer if you ask me for it"
06:29:04 syv: Also chinese and I guess I'm racist online, now.
06:29:06 Devastator: ok, got it, copied over gs03.dat, and deleted the save.
06:29:26 syv: Make sure to uncheck fullscreen.
06:29:48 Devastator: this one has some translation stuff.
06:29:53 Devastator: the other version had none.
06:30:01 Devastator: so we had different versions too.
06:30:17 ER: I think the config is just a seperate program
06:30:32 ER: and they made a copy of it but with translation
06:30:41 Devastator: also different controls.
06:30:44 Devastator: anyway, I'll open it up.
06:31:16 Devastator: it says you're already connected
ER.
06:31:20 Devastator: God, this is a dodgy program.
06:31:32 Devastator: connected before hosting, no worries there.
06:32:09 syv: Slow motion because bad ping
06:56:20 Devastator: that was a long 8:49
06:56:22 syv: If we're gonna restsrt, fs
06:56:53 Devastator: yeah, gotta get practiced again.
06:56:55 syv: Not quite sure it was fun but it made me smile
06:56:59 ER: usually if i want to confirm I don't remember what button so I just mash
06:57:11 Devastator: just delete the save before we play again?
06:57:18 Devastator: shouldn't be any trouble.
06:57:21 ER: I think that it was faster with just me and
syv, way back
06:57:21 Devastator: want some practice.
06:57:25 syv: Save doesn't mean anything anyway.
06:57:37 syv: Slowest connection is what lags it.
06:57:57 syv: Guess I should look into bugfixing this again.
06:58:07 syv: Stage 5 is very random in how many enemies despawn themselves.
06:58:40 ER: balance does feel a bit weird :P
06:58:52 ER: some of that shit does just oneshot you
06:59:11 syv: It feels better in SP when you have practice.
06:59:15 ER: and you could probably avoid it, if you happen to know what to look for
06:59:32 syv: Also, using your special makes you vulnerable.
06:59:48 ER: and it doesn't seem to last very long?
06:59:50 syv: But yes, very dodgy game with NE on.
07:00:01 syv: Kyouko's special is firmly ehhh.
07:00:09 syv: It's bad in SP, but good in MP used right.
07:00:29 syv: Though she just generally has an awesome moveset, so it's okay.
07:01:27 syv: Kind've the opposite of Mami.
07:01:47 syv: Ridiculously good special, great moveset unless enemies are at a different elevation.
07:03:16 ER: kind of wish that there were different variations on the normal attack
07:04:07 ER: we got up-b, down-b, side-b, but no up tilts :(
07:04:11 syv: Could mod it in, but no art for it.
07:06:06 syv: My modded version makes Homura's air assault rifle into a jump dash.
07:11:03 ER: can't seem to get the setup to notice my controller
07:11:49 Devastator: bad homura is just brutal, you have some tools, but you have to use them like well.
07:12:00 Devastator: dunno how much damage I did.
07:12:28 Devastator: didn't seem like a lot.
07:12:37 syv: Boss you pretty much *have* to know her moveset in NE.
07:12:48 syv: Or just be able to do tons of damage.
07:12:51 Devastator: I will say that Homura with a couple levels doesn't get one-shotted by some of the things that one shotted her.
07:13:02 ER: I think I just accidentially did something on the main menu to unlock all levels
07:13:21 syv: There's some testing code left in,
ER.
07:14:14 Devastator: those bombs do do damage, though.
07:14:23 ER: and what's the thing in character selection where you can grey them out?
07:14:33 syv: Oh yes, they're one of the strongest attacks in game.
07:14:54 syv: Grey out a char then select a dead char, they'll be revived with lowered max HP.
07:15:08 syv: It's kinda BS, can let you clear the full game easy because it doesn't hurt enough.
07:15:19 ER: hey, this isn't lore-compliant!
07:17:31 Devastator: you get like three or four in place at the right time and boom.
07:18:03 syv: Pretty much the only char that can brute force the first boss is Mami.
07:18:14 syv: Just using the i-frames off revive, pretty much.
07:20:51 Devastator: that area attack can fill the whole arena.
07:21:34 ER: this controll sceme is kind of painful
07:22:10 syv: It should be changeable in config tool?
07:22:36 ER: A: Heavy. B: Jump. X: Light. Y: Magic
07:22:49 ER: I can't get the config tool to notice my controller
07:24:20 ER: just wanted to try with the pad
07:24:36 syv: Ahh. Yeah, I think I had to use Joy2Key to make it work with my controller.
07:24:46 syv: Keyboard works fine, at least.
07:25:05 Devastator: good homura or bad homura?
07:25:18 Devastator: is good homura really much better?
07:25:49 Devastator: I don't remember having much of an easier time with anyone other than blue.
07:26:27 ER: uh, I think my magic is unbound
07:26:40 ER: time to try getting through lab 1 without timestop! :V
07:27:38 Devastator: look, if you guys play Homura I'll have to learn a second character.
07:27:44 Devastator: and you wouldn't want that, would you?
07:28:27 syv: Next time I'm playing Homura then.
07:28:47 ER: I think that
dev as lameura,
ER as Red, and
syv as muskets is pretty much how we play this game
07:29:33 syv: I actually like pretty much all the characters.
07:29:49 Devastator: tbh, I don't hate any characters.
07:29:50 syv: Though Red's parry crashes the game sometimes and I don't like *not* parrying with her.
07:29:52 Devastator: just like blowing stuff up.
07:29:59 syv: Have you not played Madoka?
07:30:07 Devastator: that's the one I don't like.
07:30:21 Devastator: what makes you say that?
07:30:36 Devastator: the only thing I actually remember is one of the up-moves.
07:31:28 ER: madoka does one thing, it's shoot arrow
07:31:45 Devastator: Homura does one thing.
07:32:05 Devastator: dammit, need to have
paris make bombs in Pumsy's.
07:32:11 Devastator: or a flamethrower, maybe.
07:32:31 Devastator: might work next time we run into an amorphous minion of some kind.
07:32:51 syv: Also, fun fact: one the NPC girls has a flamethrower totem.
07:34:50 Devastator: Man, someday Alida's going to get attacked by a MG for being a monster, isn't she?
07:35:10 Devastator: Doesn't
paris have a high Innocence stat?
07:35:13 Devastator: so good at flamethrowers?
07:35:58 ER: I don't think any of us are smarties other than sasha
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07:40:21 Devastator: did you get that anime?
07:40:35 MidJag: yes, but I can't watch it tonihgt
07:40:54 Devastator: Also, can you revive blue via that sacrifice mechanic to fight blue?
07:41:45 syv: This mod actually makes the blue fight mandatory, I think.
07:41:54 syv: Either that or blue fight happens if *anyone* dies.
07:42:01 ER: refamiliarized myself with playing as madoka
07:42:07 syv: Blue is actually really good against herself, but gold is best.
07:42:09 Devastator: does she shot arrow?
07:42:21 ER: analysis: all fun and games until you get into a melee, then lots of pain
07:42:25 syv: The best strat with madoka is to roleplay as an A10.
07:42:44 syv: Fully charged weak restores a jump IIRC.
07:42:49 ER: is the sprint actully useful for anything?
07:43:02 syv: It also charges your attacks faster.
07:43:11 syv: She gets a teleport in NE too. Down special.
07:43:20 ER: oh, you don't have to charge it actually :P
07:43:58 Devastator: Tried bad Homura again. Still died on L1 but think I did a lot more damage.
07:44:09 ER: [instant transmission sound effect]
07:44:17 Devastator: it's like everything is on a knife edge.
07:44:23 Devastator: while it's going good, things are good.
07:44:32 Devastator: but when they go bad, they go really bad.
07:44:48 ER: goblin edition is hard without multiplayer
07:45:31 MidJag: Yeah, I'm sorry guys, I won't be able to do the one shot tommorow. I was trying to write stuff today, but I'm honestlly just exhsasted. I'm done with school in. like 2 weeks. so I can 100% do it then if that's okay
07:46:15 syv: Oh, since you won't be around for Magia Record for awhile, should we find something else to watch?
07:46:17 Devastator:
parisbre56[Away], you on?
07:46:33 Devastator: same there's a 3 player max for Goblin Syndrome.
07:46:37 Devastator: be nice to intro
paris to it.
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07:47:03 ER: if we can get him to port forward ;p
07:47:07 Devastator: We should set a date for those episodes.
07:47:37 ER: who do you main in goblin syndrome,
paris?
07:47:53 syv: I suspect
Paris would make the lag even *more* severe. Europe.
07:48:03 Devastator: It might mean someone else can host.
07:48:07 parisbre56: I'm sorry, I dunno what you're talking about
07:48:15 parisbre56: haven't read the logs
07:48:38 ER: the PM3 game, grief syndrome
07:48:57 MidJag: Yeah, I won't really be avliable/around for a while.
07:49:04 ER: it has multiplayer and mods, which is a fiddly mess, but fun
07:49:10 Devastator: someone made an action game based on PM3.
07:49:31 syv: Tasofro, IIRC. The name in the opening splash.
07:49:38 parisbre56: So a fighting game with a magical girl theme?
07:50:26 syv: Yes
Dev, bad homura is really bad.
07:50:41 syv: Her grenades are great, and her other moves are okay in their niches.
07:50:45 MidJag: She's a challegne class isn't she?
07:50:51 syv: But she just has no solid defensive set.
07:51:01 syv: And NE is *built* around defensive strats.
07:51:28 syv: Pretty much as long as she's in complete control, she does fine.
07:51:51 syv: ...But she loses control, and that's a live. Likely two, because it can be very difficult to recover. At least with my skill level.
07:52:14 parisbre56: sounds about right for Homu
07:52:56 syv: there's a second version for her pre-exprrienced, and one for post-experienced.
07:53:18 syv: Post experienced gets LMGs, spammable mortars, rapid fire stuff, all of it.
07:53:45 ER: glasses homura gets a golf club!
07:53:48 syv: Pre experienced gets a deagle that's hard to use, a shotgun that's kinda slow, a golf club, and very powerful grenades that hurt her too.
07:54:24 syv: Pretty much all of her attacks are primarily useful for managing the grenades.
08:02:54 parisbre56: looking at a gameplay video, homura seems to be the "spam timestop and bombs" characters
08:03:56 Devastator: you shouldn't lose two, you have enough i-frames to bomb everything.
08:04:30 Devastator: also, I totally couldn't play her with variable timestop. It's just too much for my tiny brain.
08:05:15 syv: You know it just kept time stop until you let go, right?
08:05:20 syv: It wasn't random or anything.
08:05:43 Devastator: Yeah, but I couldn't deal with holding it down while trying to look at everything else.
08:06:48 Devastator: I mean, I gotta remember where the bombs are.
08:06:53 Devastator: and the projectiles.
08:06:56 Devastator: and the other shots.
08:07:39 Devastator: I don't play fighting games well.
08:07:41 syv: It was never hard for *me* to track, but then I don't play bad homura on your level.
08:07:52 syv: Says the guy who's better than the rest of us.
08:08:21 Devastator: I'm not better than you guys are.
08:08:33 Devastator: you guys are better.
08:08:41 Devastator: no way I beat nightmare. That must have been the regular game I beat.
08:09:25 MidJag:
Dev your just bizzarly good at games.
08:09:43 syv: I don't think I've beaten nightmare even using all characters, planning out a route to use them in optimal situations.
08:09:47 Devastator: I just have a low skillcap that I get to abnormally quickly.
08:09:58 syv: And if I did, I got very lucky on the last level.
08:10:31 Devastator: it means I get out to a lead sometimes, but there's a pretty hard limit that I run into.
08:11:17 syv: Is there a single game that any of us have played a similar amount to you which you aren't better than the rest of us in?
08:11:38 syv: Also, considering what you do in Surviv, I wouldn't call your skillcap *low*.
08:12:02 syv: I've played zero hours of that, and Egan has played several playthroughs.
08:12:21 Devastator: Well, I streamed most of it. Did Egan have an easier time than I did, first go?
08:13:23 syv: I *know* you had an easier time with DaS 1 than I did, and than Egan did, and than
MJ did, despite you applying self challenges to yourself that none of us did.
08:13:53 MidJag:
Dev your just bizzarly good at games. I just suck.
08:14:08 syv: No,
MJ, you're average. As am I.
08:18:28 Devastator: yeah, and you play at what, six times speed with multiple challenges?
08:18:32 Devastator: I will never, ever get that good.
08:18:39 Devastator: low skillcap that I get to quickly.
08:19:15 syv: No, highest I've ever managed to get anywhere with was at 5x speed, and that wasn't skillbased. It was purely spamming a heavy stunning long range attack.
08:19:27 syv: Also, I have like 600 hours in the game.
08:19:44 syv: I didn't start doing the challenges until somewhere like 300 or 400
08:19:46 MidJag: anyway, I'm going to bed
08:19:56 syv: Don't let the coronavirus bite.
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08:20:10 ER: the only from games I've actually beaten are DS1 and sekiro
08:20:38 syv: Also,
Dev, didn't you beat DaS 1 in like 80 hours, without using shields, or decent armor?
08:20:39 ER: and I beat DS1 using a huge axe and power within to just nuke everything and had difficulties with gwyn
08:20:46 ER: only beat it with the one char
08:21:02 ER: DS3 I stopped playing at pontiff
08:21:12 syv: It took me over 100 using everything I could get my hands on, and heavily abusing shields.
08:21:29 Devastator: I forget how long it took and forgot how to look it up.
08:21:37 Devastator: might have been 80, might have been 240.
08:21:59 syv: No, it wasn't anywhere close to 240.
08:22:04 ER: I have beaten the final boss of a from game two times, ever
08:22:17 syv: I recall it being around 80, and feeling very surprised by how low it was.
08:22:24 syv: Hey
Dev, did you beat Manus?
08:23:37 ER: we should play fighting games
08:23:47 ER: then I could compete with
dev ;p
08:23:56 syv: I'll happily join you if you can find one that allows online MP.
08:24:03 syv: I should make GS PvP, yes.
08:24:20 syv: Mod all Mami's attacks to be projectiles, so Homura vs Mami works properly.
08:24:28 ER: not that I'm actually good at any of those yet, but I think I COULD if I tried real hard and had freinds to beat up
08:28:58 Devastator: tell you what, I think I still have it installed.
08:29:06 Devastator: so let me know how to check it and I'll check hours played.
08:29:10 syv: Did you use the magic necklace of darkness repelling?
08:29:16 syv: Or a high-magic resist shield?
08:29:19 Devastator: There's a necklace of darkness repelling?
08:29:22 Devastator: and no, didn't use shields.
08:29:32 syv:
ER has never beaten Manus.
08:29:37 Devastator: I might have used something to repel darkness.
08:29:43 syv: My first two runs, I had to heavily rely on both those items.
08:30:24 Devastator: how do you check hours played again?
08:30:44 syv: Just run the game, click load save, and it'll have a time on the only save that
08:31:31 Devastator: 71 hours 13 minutes.
08:32:16 ER: that's like, an unintentional speedrun or something
08:32:32 Devastator: keyboard only, no shields.
08:32:49 Devastator: but I'll never, ever be as good as a
syv or a proper speedrunner.
08:33:20 syv: But you would be if you invested hundreds of hours into the game.
08:34:55 Devastator: No, that's the thing, I have had games I've put hundreds of hours into.
08:35:06 Devastator: I never get to that level.
08:37:26 syv: Mm. So, you've probably invested... 175 hours in Spelunky, since you thought 70 hours was 240 in DaS.
08:38:35 ER: fighting games are confusing
08:39:01 Devastator: I've won it.. I think three-ish times.
08:39:48 ER: I might have beat spelunky once or twice
08:39:57 Devastator: I've got 652 games on record.
08:40:48 ER: how many times have I started a speulunky run?
08:40:49 Devastator: I mean, most of them don't last that long, but yeah 175 hours isn't outrageous.
08:41:03 Devastator: there's a stats.txt that tells you how many times you've died.
08:41:08 ER: I started playing it long, long ago
08:41:26 ER: I haven't been playing it for the whole time, but certainly over several computers
08:42:48 syv: Do you have it on this comp?
08:43:07 syv: If it's 200 deaths and 1 win, similar current skill to his overall average.
08:44:16 ER: but i started playing on this machine having already played it for a long, long time
08:44:28 ER: I knew everything about it already
08:44:48 Devastator: I have three olmec kills, but I remember one of them I botched and died before reaching the exit after killing olmec. So two wins.
08:46:20 syv: So 150 average per win for
ER's current skill level, 300 average per win for
Dev's entire history of playing.
08:47:11 ER: well,
dev's old and has a lot more exp playing videogames than me :3
08:47:14 Devastator: I think I could do better than 300-1 right now.
08:47:26 Devastator: also, apparently I have no deaths to bats.
08:47:37 ER: I don't really play for win ratio, either
08:47:55 ER: sometimes I just plop all my bombs at my feet and boooom
08:48:20 ER: bats usually kill you while you're being juggled by something else
08:48:29 Devastator: I did try a couple times to do swag things like cashing in diamond idols or something.
08:48:37 Devastator: usually leads to death.
08:49:48 Devastator: lets see, causes of death.
08:50:07 Devastator: 146 to spikes, 102 to long falls, and 94 for arrow traps.
08:51:04 Devastator: 43 to regular spiders, 41 to ghosts..
08:52:08 ER: I practically never get caught by those
08:52:22 Devastator: It's me being swaggy.
08:52:32 Devastator: using them to upgrade gems going for a high score.
08:52:32 ER: I hear the music hurl, and I'm out out out
08:52:44 Devastator: I do remember trying for a really high score once.
08:52:45 parisbre56: is dying to shopkeepers a normal thing?
08:53:30 Devastator: shopkeeps be deadly.
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09:05:13 syv: First three levels, I did well. No losses.
09:05:24 syv: Level 4, I just do not have a strategy with any character.
09:05:57 syv: Damn shadow snakes get i-frames and teleports and basically constant attacks, and there's so many of them, and they have a tiny hitbox that's higher than a lot of attacks.
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09:08:02 ER: please don't take out your frustration by making us fight teleporting shadow sneks in ps
09:08:11 Devastator: Alida would be game for it.
09:08:15 Devastator: then again, she's game at 'fight'
09:08:29 ER: yeah, but i-frames are annoying ;p
09:11:23 Devastator: yes, but being meduka is suffering.
09:11:26 syv: Snakes can only shoot at a 45 degree angle, so if she's above the screen she's safe.
09:11:37 syv: But I doubt she can handle the boss.
09:14:46 syv: Yeah, frack, they actually have to choose to attack to be vulnerable.
09:14:54 syv: They're only vulnerable during attacking frames.
09:26:05 syv: Okay, I don't think I've ever actually reached L4's boss in NE.
09:26:16 syv: Elsamaria's music is Decretum, which took me by surprise.
09:26:44 syv: And she can snipe me while offscreen.
09:27:54 syv: Aaaand I teleported offscreen and fell out of the map for the loss.
09:28:08 syv: Which leaves only Homura as having full health.
09:31:21 syv: While occupying almost the entire screen with attacks...
09:31:54 syv: AND they have some degree of poise, since her AR doesn't stun them.
09:35:04 ER: rest in peace, magical girl squad
09:35:14 ER: which is to say I hope someone kills them soon
09:35:48 syv: She has a decent kit for it, but just cannot survive the constant stream of attacks.
09:37:08 Devastator: well, I beat Gertrude.
09:38:03 syv: I don't think bad Homura even has the kit to kill her.
09:38:16 Devastator: No, I meant already dead in that level.
09:38:17 syv: Magic on the char select screen.
09:38:34 syv: It restores full health while keeping levels, so it makes it easy.
09:38:38 Devastator: those enemies being invincible 80% of the time counters bombs.
09:39:23 syv: Golf club should work well though, as should timestop.
09:39:39 Devastator: they also take 8 hits to kill.
09:40:03 Devastator: I wish I could see the scoring function in nightmare, just to estimate how to juggle.
09:40:13 syv: Jeez, even with levels from the first stage?
09:40:18 syv: I could prolly mod it back in.
09:40:24 syv: That, at least, is just checking diffs.
09:40:27 Devastator: whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack.
09:40:42 Devastator: I think the deagle will take less, but yeah.
09:41:29 syv: Level 4 is just buuuullshit.
09:41:51 ER: ...is the deagle enchanted? it like, glows when you charge it?
09:42:11 Devastator: the shots are kinda magic.
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22:32:40 Devastator: got my stimulus cheque.
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