00:10:13 Devastator: got rules to rewrite. I'lll probably work on those this weekend.
00:10:17 Devastator: more stuff to add and change.
00:10:32 Devastator: Could go bug
NJW about Coven. ;-p
00:13:05 Devastator: yeah. Roll to Anchorite seems to be wrapping up.
00:13:36 ER: require more games about groups of mages
00:16:24 Devastator: gotta put in all the recent stuff into some new spoilers and rewrite some of the others.
00:16:37 Devastator: and add a few more things to the armoury.
00:20:50 Devastator: also,
syv, the SRD agrees with you about weather.
00:20:53 Devastator: "Extreme cold (below -20° F) deals 1d6 points of lethal damage per minute (no save). In addition, a character must make a Fortitude save (DC 15, +1 per previous check) or take 1d4 points of nonlethal damage."
00:21:40 ER: that's without appriopriate clothing though, right?
00:21:59 syv: It would be very D&D for that to be at all.
00:23:31 Devastator: with appropriate clothing it's the same, except you only roll every 10 minutes.
00:24:10 Devastator: You can last ten minutes outside naked in -20 weather, no problems.
00:24:31 Devastator: I sure as hell don't have 20d6 HP. ;-p
00:25:05 ER: I'd think
dev would be pretty high level
00:25:14 Devastator: that's what you take falling out of an airplane.
00:26:15 Devastator: but nah, in D&D terms I wouldn't go beyond level 5 expert.
00:27:12 ER: I think 5e would be more forgiving with cold
00:29:43 Devastator: fort save every ten minutes, failure is 1d6 damage.
00:29:47 Devastator: bonus for clothing.
00:42:40 syv: That sounds reasonable to me.
00:43:03 ER: yes, 5e is very reasonable :P
00:43:07 Devastator: yeah, it's a lot better.
00:43:21 Devastator: I am amused that -20 weather can lead to 1d6 lethal damage per minute.
00:43:36 Devastator: that seems extreme, unless I was from like, say, Florida.
00:44:24 ER: floridian human: gains 1 perk, completely at random, has cold damage vulnerability
00:46:12 Devastator: gains 1 skill, but only with doing things illegal, immoral, or idiotic.
00:50:35 Devastator: Now what would that bonus be called..
00:51:44 syv: I guess I invested mine in the immoral branch.
00:52:10 syv: +1 morale bonus to immorality.
00:52:15 Devastator: eh, I'm assuming it's +1 to all skill checks that involve doing something illegal, immoral, or idiotic.
00:55:11 syv: Huh. Is that why I'm better than you guys at finding torrents?
00:55:39 syv: The idiotic bonus seems hard to leverage well. I'm sure I can find a way, though.
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01:01:16 IronyOwl: well good, he's a liar and knave
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01:03:05 syv: (
syv) Hoped that it would say "ironyoel has been banned", then I could claim it was a typo...
01:03:13 syv: I got DC'd when I said that.
01:03:15 Devastator: Not too much for you, just make sure you say what your tanks are trying to stick with while closing range in k-com.
01:03:45 syv: >The next Kaiju has AoE attacks
01:03:57 syv: He's never asked about this kinda thing before.
01:04:06 syv: So it must now be unusually important.
01:06:56 Devastator: well, before I could parse what the orders meant.
01:07:03 Devastator: but 'stick with our forces' when the only other forces are infantry..
01:07:09 Devastator: that's a slow approach.
01:07:17 IronyOwl: what do you think,
syv?
01:07:39 IronyOwl: should we give the kaiju more time to wreck the place, or just shoot the tanks ahead?
01:08:04 IronyOwl: alright, I'll amend the orders
01:08:11 syv: Infantry are mostly just a utility unit, if they survive.
01:10:47 IronyOwl: oh so... what's gonna happen when naturegirl grafts a cat onto a car-sized heart?
01:11:49 Devastator: ~shakes fist at both a small lab and no base item.
01:13:22 Devastator: yeah, nothing spectacular.
01:14:22 Devastator: It's a waste, but no, it'll work fine.
01:14:31 Devastator: just.. facepalm worthy.
01:14:41 syv: Most all of her actions are.
01:15:52 syv: Huh, checked Mook, apparently I didn't manage to make her lock herself in a pool with a shark.
01:16:03 Devastator: It'll lead to an interesting turn writeup, but nobody else would get to read it.
01:16:15 Devastator: other than that it won't be very interesting.
01:16:32 syv: She's still free to quote it, right?
01:16:57 syv: She seems pretty amiable to following suggestions. I'll ask her to copy/paste it.
01:17:10 Devastator: I don't want you guys to read each other's spoilers, but I don't care if you choose to share information.
01:19:17 Devastator: Yeah, it's.. ugh. I suppose it's better with a cat or a racoon than a dog, so I'll roll to see what she gets.
01:20:48 Devastator: well, a dog would be the more interesting to describe..
01:20:52 Devastator: I'm sure you can guess why.
01:24:48 syv: I didn't even notice until now.
01:25:03 syv: I have to check IRC manually to see messages in main chat.
01:25:19 syv: Dogs are larger, more intelligent, and more sociable.
01:25:32 syv: Any of those could be the answer.
01:26:14 Devastator: It's the former. Dogs are small size animals.
01:26:30 Devastator: cats and racoons are 'infantry equipment' sized.
01:26:53 Devastator: yes a kaiju heart will make a bio creature larger, which means a dog won't fit.
01:27:44 syv: You lost me at "cats [...] are 'infantry equipment'"
01:27:57 syv: So this means we can equip
ER's catgirls with cats?
01:28:59 syv: You need to edit your nekobutchers project, and change "giant greatswords" to "adorable cats with claws functionally as damaging as giant greatswords"
01:29:03 Devastator: I just didn't want to explicitly call infantry guns 'tiny'
01:29:49 syv: Shush. You've now said that we can have catgirls rip kaiju apart by slapping them with demonically-enhanced felines.
01:29:52 IronyOwl: So heart dogs would become too large for containment, heart cats are merely an infantry weapon
01:30:01 syv: Therefore we need to do this
01:30:15 IronyOwl: let's make cat-sized catgirls
01:30:18 syv: No, if heart means +1 size, then cats become dog size, which is small.
01:30:18 Devastator: no, heart cats are like car-sized.
01:30:48 Devastator: now you know why I suggested 'enlarge lab, then buy tiger, then add heart. ;-p'
01:30:50 IronyOwl: ...hm,
ER might not be getting his heart workshop after all then
01:30:52 Devastator: but this will be fine, really.
01:31:05 syv: (
IronyOwl) let's make cat-sized catgirls
01:31:11 Devastator: That's entirely legal, yes.
01:31:26 syv: Yes, yes. Catgirls that kill kaiju by slapping them with tinier, angrier catgirls.
01:31:38 Devastator: although if you want them to act like infantry, price gonna go up.
01:31:47 syv: We can make weapon mods that affect infantry weapons, right?
01:32:00 IronyOwl: we'll arm our weapon catgirls with still smaller catgirls?
01:32:05 syv: That means we can enhance the tiny catgirls by giving *them* even tinier catgirls.
01:32:15 Devastator: That's.. gonna cost a bundle.
01:32:16 IronyOwl: it's japan all the way down
01:32:25 syv: This is at the point that I don't even care how ineffective it is.
01:32:34 syv: It is too glorious to not try.
01:32:36 Devastator: it's more that they'll never see the field.
01:32:52 syv: I love that that means they'd actually be effective.
01:32:55 Devastator: an infantry unit made out of tiny units isn't impossible.
01:33:09 Devastator: but putting an infantry equipment slot on that is expensive.
01:33:18 Devastator: well, you need a bunch. One tiny catgirl isn't a unit.
01:33:28 syv: It's infantry-sized units, which have one of their weapons replaced by cat-sized organisms.
01:33:41 IronyOwl: does that mean you can make a cluster of larger-than-human things that funciton as infantry?
01:34:05 syv: And those cat-sized organisms have a weapon mod that is fluffed as an even smaller organism.
01:35:11 Devastator: Yes you can make 'units' out of groups of larger than human creatures.
01:35:35 IronyOwl: I assume the primary benefit is greatly increased toughness?
01:35:55 Devastator: Probably more just that you can give them bigger weapons and buy equipment slots for them cheaper.
01:36:18 Devastator: but it'll be fairly expensive because you get a lot of bonus for starting with humans.
01:36:50 Devastator: with non-humans, all the stuff you get for free with humans doesn't come free.
01:38:01 syv: Also, infantry are still kinda just crap aside from being infantry, and therefore doubling loot.
01:38:03 Devastator: you have to put in the research time to you know, train them to work with equipment and recover bonus kaiju parts.
01:38:17 Devastator: Pfft, you guys have just been bad at using them. ;-p
01:39:02 syv: Do you mean because we haven't been giving them proper equipment, or because we haven't been doing something tactically helpful?
01:39:17 syv: ...I don't think we've ever tried a kaiju grapple.
01:39:39 Devastator: I mean the black market even rolled up a mech inf unit.
01:40:27 syv: Hmm. That does raise the question of how mechanized infantry mechanically works.
01:40:43 Devastator: They had three 'weapons'
01:40:50 Devastator: small arms, rockets, and the AFV.
01:41:20 Devastator: AFV had bonus speed, armour, durability, and an attack identical to the rocket.
01:41:25 syv: The AFV counted as part of the infantry unit, and therefore benefitted from their defensive stats?
01:41:42 syv: While not being worse than a normal AFV, and while buffing the infantry.
01:42:06 syv: I need to make jetpack infantry so I can issue fighter jets as infantry equipment.
01:43:39 Devastator: There's no mechanical reason you can't do something similar to that.
01:46:38 syv: What kind of action would that even require? Would I be able to reuse my current jet design, or would I have to develop an infantry-equipment jet?
01:46:59 syv: Would the jet have to be small size? Or the infantry have to be ogres?
01:49:29 Devastator: You'd be making the jet on [infantry equipment] size.
01:49:38 Devastator: which I'm not quite sure is possible.
01:50:39 Devastator: yeah, it's possible.
01:50:43 Devastator: not cheap or quick.
01:51:53 syv: So... the AFV was mechanically the same size as a batch of rifles? Smaller than a technical?
01:53:01 Devastator: it wasn't that over the top, though. Checking it there was no durability increase, just two ranks in armour, and the extra speed and attack, neither of which were prohibitively expensive.
01:54:40 syv: Is there any advantage to the AFV design in particular? I'd presume from this description that it has the same cost as any other weapon-slot occupying mod which gives ++armor +speed +RocketAttack.
01:55:06 syv: Which means it'd be an extremely, ridiculously, awesome mod.
01:55:16 syv: ...But one that would be much better applied to a large unit.
01:55:24 syv: Which would be cheaper anyway...
01:55:45 syv: But that's both insane and doesn't jive with what you're saying.
01:58:57 Devastator: It didn't have to pay for durability.
01:59:07 Devastator: being mated to a high-durability infantry unit.
01:59:26 Devastator: but yes, a pure AFV in medium would be cheaper with the same statline.
01:59:35 Devastator: although getting it up to D durability is a bit tricky.
01:59:51 Devastator: I'd have to get my notes fully open to compare the two.
02:00:06 Devastator: but the 'rocket attack' isn't expensive on infantry, and two ranks of armour isn't that expensive on infantry.
02:00:19 Devastator: speed I'm not sure about, dont' remember offhand.
02:00:37 Devastator: so it's not really a stupid idea either way.
02:01:08 IronyOwl: so power armor and rockets are the way to go, eh?
02:01:21 syv: So... a weapon mod that gives +armor is equal in cost to a unit with +armor?
02:01:44 Devastator: if sizes are the same, and assuming some other things, then generally, yeah.
02:02:01 Devastator: there's at least one common exception that comes up often.
02:02:18 Devastator: and the total cost for the modded unit should be more.
02:02:28 Devastator: No, it's research related, and a mechanic I'm not revealing.
02:02:46 syv: Is it advantageous or disadvantageous for modding infantry?
02:03:05 Devastator: It's a result of a very basic research mechanic that applies to everything.
02:03:10 Devastator: so can't answer that.
02:06:10 syv: I still really don't see the advantage of the AFV, then.
02:06:25 syv: There's a hidden mechanic which applies to everything that might benefit it.
02:06:59 syv: But otherwise the advantage is that you're creating a mod for an efficient design to make it useful. But... at added cost. Substantially added cost, from what I understand.
02:15:16 Devastator: The differences aren't that huge for the statline of the AFV.
02:15:57 Devastator: It might even be cheaper than a tank, as researching that D durability is not fast.
02:16:11 syv: So statline matters when considering cost of developing stats based on size?
02:16:29 Devastator: F/F weapons aren't going to be hard to build at any size.
02:16:36 Devastator: really big weapons cost more.
02:17:39 syv: Is this a matter of "you can do X amount of work in a month, and if your project requires less than X work, it does not matter whether you have an easier time due to working with large size"
02:18:38 ER: welp, you guys have been talking a lot while I was gone
02:22:45 Devastator: nah, it's more that some things don't take more time to shrink down when they're very weak.
02:26:54 Devastator: An F strength tank cannon isn't much easier than a F strength rifle.
02:27:08 Devastator: for a D weapon, it's more.
02:29:44 syv: Yeah, that was gonna be the second option.
02:30:10 syv: Still, it doesn't really support infantry unless you intend to use low strength weapons.
02:30:30 syv: Though, spamming triple F/F weapons might not be the worst idea.
02:30:54 syv: I *suspect* it's not a great idea since grades are exponential, but...
02:51:07 ER: well, none of what I just got caught up on makes sense or is interesting to me
02:51:24 ER: why would an AFV even be an addon? madness.
02:51:48 Devastator: You staple the AFV to the backs of each squad.
02:52:16 ER: shouldn't it just be a seperate unit which buffs the infantry?
02:52:54 Piecewise__: America's Funniest videos?
02:53:30 Devastator: The game doesn't always make sense.
02:53:44 Devastator: and the black market rolled up some enhanced infantry.
02:54:05 ER: have you ever noticed how we can't ever get MSes to do what we want?
02:54:17 ER: it's like they're a bunch of egotists or something
02:54:18 Devastator: It's like they're mad.
02:56:39 ER: mad scientists aren't crazy, they're just not accepted by society due to being some craycray motherfuckers
02:58:46 syv: They aren't crazy, they're just craycray?
02:59:07 ER: they are... magical egotists, okay
02:59:25 Devastator: Btw,
PW, Irony has enough flesh for you now.
02:59:29 Devastator: so you should get the flesh this turn.
02:59:32 ER: they can do magic only when they feel sufficeintly victimized.
02:59:34 Devastator: if Irony wants to give it to you.
03:00:15 ER: can I share a design to a mad scientist, or do they need something physical to work with?
03:00:28 ER: I imagine that
PW would appriciate my demon crimes
03:00:55 Devastator: Mad scientists are artists and have no use for your pathetic designs!
03:01:03 Devastator: but I might change that for buildings since you can't send someone one.
03:01:26 Devastator: well, unless you're a mad scientist.
03:01:27 ER: not unless we make a flying base, as discussed ;p
03:01:53 Devastator: Also, Happerary has an empty lab at the moment.
03:02:01 Devastator: That's a rare situation.
03:03:50 Devastator: it's one where someone can shove a tank into it.
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03:08:12 syv: Do you want me for some reason?
03:08:28 Piecewise__: I just happened to be looking at this when you logged on
03:08:57 ER: wonder how our various wasps will work out
03:09:35 Piecewise__: Mostly with sit ups
03:09:47 Piecewise__: mostly ab work though
03:09:52 ER: thinking about things I could get with my demon thing assuming it's still limited to small, and cat-sized demon wasps seemed like an option
03:09:55 Devastator: wellk if
IronyOwl's here..
03:10:04 Devastator: You're not sending the flesh you got to
Piecewise.
03:10:06 Devastator: are you doing that?
03:12:20 Piecewise__: *Girly voice* Yeees of course
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03:12:47 Devastator: yeah, you're one bit short and IO has two.
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03:12:58 Devastator: if IO sends you it you can build your wasp nest somewhere.
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03:13:05 Devastator: if you've got the bux.
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04:53:09 GameServ: Some names to ponder: Parieninaldy, Aelan, Skalstead, Kolarnequent, Ardgethdar, Asfynane, Shotluth, Rolayngaryne, Wincarew, Nautart, Keldien, Perarynlinun, Norgaynonwat, Skallaaznyd, Roayne, Plagimear, Nautquentel, Shyyr, Roimaldydor, Jesyddtunyjuin.
04:55:24 ER: can get like one kinda usable one out of a whole pile of them :P
04:55:33 ER: but whatever, it actually helps a little
04:56:56 ER: I took Wincarew and cut the w off the end
04:57:49 ER: Wincare works as the name for a postapoc ruined city, right?
04:58:11 ER: Or at least, what they called it before it was a ruin
05:00:20 syv: Wincare sounds good but is also literally Win care"
05:00:34 syv: Like you care for the win.
05:02:31 syv: Shyyr. Shire. Shier? More shy?
05:04:54 syv: I have a python script I use sometimes, which literally just selects a random consonant, vowel, then consonant again for a random length. CVCVCVC. Made it on a whim while talking to somebody about how trivial it is to make words that sound completely new and weird, and it ended up being surprisingly useful.
05:07:10 syv: Okay, why do "sieve" and "
syv" get pronounced "siv", but "lie" and "lye" end with "eye"?
05:16:33 ER: just flavor, but that's what I felt like doing
05:19:39 syv: "were nurtured", not "wer nurtured".
05:20:13 syv: Aside from that it's fine. Nothing super special, but not bad, and it does the job of piquing my curiousity.
05:32:48 ER: now that I have written a flavor blurb, time to never look at this again, right
05:33:20 syv: It can join Mauser in the pile of abandoned settings that are too good to make rules for.
05:34:13 ER: I think the only rules I really NEED are more economy-related
05:35:05 ER: so equipment and loot weight limits, currency to sell loot and buy equipment
05:35:20 ER: and maybe something to do with the settlement itself
05:36:25 syv: Gonna recommend looking at no country for old kobolds, again.
05:36:44 syv: Just steal their whole system, I think it'd work great for this.
05:38:35 ER: I. Don't really feel like looking at systems.
05:38:51 ER: I dunno, what is this thing like?
05:38:56 Devastator: ..didn't you ask for my kaiju-com system?
06:03:13 syv: I wouldn't use it for anything, I'd just like to look at it.
06:03:24 Devastator: I don't know if you'd like it or hate it.
06:03:30 Devastator: might disappoint you.
06:04:11 ER:
ER system: "3d6 go roll roll roll"
06:04:49 Devastator: I run it from three spreadsheets and about four pages of rules text.
06:08:51 syv: Yeaaah I doubt that's disappointing.
06:09:12 Devastator: and the spreadsheets are the research system, the opfor system, and the world notes.
06:10:19 Devastator: rules texts are pricing, combat rules, scoring rules, and the BM.
06:11:39 syv: How much do you think I have for PS?
06:12:14 IronyOwl: yes I will send
pw his final bit
06:12:20 Devastator: probably your list of witches, the rules text, and the other stuff.
06:12:42 Devastator: and probably some notes on the current dungeon.
06:13:15 ER: Probably a massive pile of loosely organized txts, much of which is outdated
06:13:37 IronyOwl: gonna go with
ER's prediction here
06:13:38 ER: if, you know, my own method and what you've said before is any indication
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06:14:19 IronyOwl: if it's anything like mine, there's at least one prototype text too
06:14:34 MidJag: hiya Irony, haven't seen you in a whilwe
06:14:35 syv: (
ER) Probably a massive pile of loosely organized txts, much of which is outdated
06:14:42 IronyOwl: one of those ancient scribbles from before you had the current game nailed down
06:14:53 syv: Irony is, uh, also exactly correct as well.
06:15:20 syv: I have several text files describing rules that were changed, unmarked, sharing folders with modern files.
06:16:37 Devastator: But nah, I read it and I'm amazed I'm running a game that's got you spinning around from that.
06:17:01 MidJag: I kept most of MP's notes in my head
06:17:23 MidJag: the rest was some rules and some text files loosely describing lore.
06:18:05 ER: I have a folder named "Gmae Ideas PRobably" filled with folders containing RPG books, some folders for specific games I've run, and random images and txts I've made in spurts in inspiration
06:19:03 Devastator: Plus you should see how I describe kaiju during the fight.
06:19:04 MidJag: Though you are also pretty cool.
06:19:24 Devastator: The statblock has five lines of text.
06:21:25 ER: did you read that pastebin,
MidJag?
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06:22:17 ER: perhaps I'll do something with that. stay tuned.
06:24:22 ER: just make sure not to tune me out
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06:26:40 syv: (
Devastator) Plus you should see how I describe kaiju during the fight.
06:26:45 syv: I'd expect it to be simple.
06:28:25 Devastator: that's including the 'AI'
06:28:28 ER: how big are kaiju in our rankings, again? one above huge?
06:28:40 Devastator: one bigger than giant.
06:28:54 Devastator: they're not the same as your stuff.
06:28:58 Devastator: one bigger than huge.
06:29:37 ER: hmm, so probably not cost effective to simply summon kaiju demons to fistfight them>
06:29:45 IronyOwl: They're equal to or one category smaller than battleships, right?
06:29:59 IronyOwl: Maybe if you had enough bits~
06:30:35 syv: 1St kaiju laser was Bish power
06:30:50 syv: Kaiju range averaged DC, sometimes is E, sometimes is B
06:31:13 IronyOwl: the spider one who winged a tank but otherwise murdered everything instantly with it?
06:31:52 Devastator: do note I didn't actually say 'sometimes B.'
06:32:45 syv: I'm not noting anything, that window has been cleared several times since then.
06:33:25 syv: You said most were at least D, then gave a smaller quantity for C, and an even smaller quantity for B, with a similarly small quantity for E.
06:35:38 Devastator: yeah, just don't expect to be able to kite indefinately with a single super-long range weapon.
06:35:43 Devastator: some kaiju that could work against.
06:35:47 Devastator: but not all of them.
06:36:11 MidJag: I feel like ICBM's would probablly work pretty well
06:36:30 MidJag: So
Dev can Kaiju come from great lakes?
06:36:30 ER: How about kiting indefinately with a single super close range weapon? :D
06:36:45 Devastator: that's not what kiting means..
06:37:00 Devastator: None have been observed coming from the great lakes.
06:37:19 MidJag: how about large rivers?
06:37:33 Devastator: The last one crawled out of a river.
06:37:39 Devastator: but it was right next to the ocean.
06:40:34 IronyOwl: watched
ER's gun video
06:43:52 syv: I haven't watched it, is it actually worse than the Zip22?
06:44:40 ER: single shot, screw off the barrel to reload.
06:45:55 ER: I don't remember exactly what the zip22 was like. This one might actually be better, I dunno.
06:46:08 IronyOwl: not familiar with the zip22, but it was intended to cost $4 to make, was single shot, and most of it was cast from a single piece
06:46:10 Devastator: no, the zip-22 was worse.
06:46:15 ER: It's not helped by the fact that the one he was showing was broken, lol
06:46:20 IronyOwl: also just absolutely, irredeemably hideous
06:46:51 IronyOwl: sadly it was rather hush hush and there were only ever a thousand made, so he couldn't say how effective it was
06:47:42 syv: If it functioned, I'd say it was far better than the zip.
06:47:52 ER: yeah. one thing was that it was SUPPOSED to cost $4 to make, but ended up costing them $300 each because they only made one batch
06:48:01 syv: If it didn't function, it's probably a little better, since it'll hurt more when you throw it.
06:49:12 ER: stick a pistol underbarrel your rifle for some reason
06:49:57 Devastator: it fired when the trigger was pulled.
06:50:55 ER: the deer gun? it presumably did.
06:51:16 ER: the one he had was, again, broken and wouldn't fire.
06:51:44 ER: and it seems few of them were made and the cases in which they were used are sekrit
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06:58:51 ER: I'm just a sucker for bullpups, though :V
07:02:36 syv: Nekobutchers with 1 month development time
07:03:11 ER: no no no, we'll give our babies ample time
07:03:17 ER: to become overpowered monsters
07:03:35 ER: because otherwise they'll die instantly and I'll be sad
07:06:53 ER: both terrible guns, presumably
07:07:05 Devastator: Right, that's a zip-22 under that barrel.
07:07:07 Devastator: what's the other gun?
07:07:35 syv: Gun Jesus has a separate video for it.
08:11:57 ER: so you can make RPG shoot bullet
08:18:08 IronyOwl: I don't feel like I know enough about guns to comment on the zip22
08:19:57 syv: You don't need to know anything, just insult it.
08:21:13 IronyOwl: fortunately I can comment on the brilliant plan to sell all of their fancy, well-loved gun producing material to fund their fabulous new idea that will totally make enough money to purchase new fancy gun producing material
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08:22:56 MidJag: I am brilliant yes thanks for noticing :P
08:23:19 ER: only as long as you praise my writing
08:26:10 IronyOwl: only brilliant people are brilliant enough to appreciate how brilliant my writing is
08:26:47 ER: gods, why am I being awake right now?
08:26:53 ER: there really is no good reason
08:27:04 MidJag: I'm asking myself the same question.
08:27:11 ER: other than being distracted by freindly irc people
08:27:21 ER: okay
mj, if you quit so will i
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08:29:06 ER: guess my program doesn't respect the sanctitiy of your mod tools
08:29:10 syv: You may have a problem with your plan to leave.
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20:56:18 ER: Could I use Human to give myself extra arms
20:56:42 ER: I know I can, what difficulty bby? :sunglasses:
20:57:51 batman: Hmmm as biggy strongy as now too?
20:58:10 batman: going for the Machamp look?
20:58:43 ER: and probably d20 eventually, as that's in reach for a magebreaker apparently
20:59:57 ER: my first thought if of Goro, of course
21:01:08 batman: Buh...probably d20 honestly. Large scale self editing is hard. Gonna have to figure out how to put a second clavicle in there somewhere.
21:01:43 batman: Yeah yeah, but still, making new is harder than just making bigger or smaller
21:01:55 batman: especially if you care about it all working and looking goods
21:02:46 batman: End. You can probably get it down to d12
21:03:47 ER: because it would definately be Ah rather than Es ;P
21:04:15 batman: How much did I charge
Dev for those wings?
21:05:03 batman: Whatever the dice roll for that is, I'll accept as a roll for your arms
21:05:22 ER: well, that one was temporary iirc
21:06:29 ER: oh, hers couldn't have been more than d8 because she has bird d8
21:06:52 ER: but it was also a "temporary Strengthen Grow Expand Bird"
21:07:40 ER: I feel like not all of that should get to apply, but some of it, probably :P
21:08:20 ER: Strengthen d12 is frikkin op btw ;P
21:09:28 batman: You're all getting pretty OP
21:10:49 ER: hmm, is channeler saeko limited from casting d20 spells, or is d12 effectively limiteless?
21:14:02 batman: well, there are ways to get d20 words, but
21:14:30 ER: she's not becoming lavos without one of those
21:22:33 ER: guess I shouldn't really try a d20 right away with a d6+2
21:24:08 ER: oh yeah, that would make sense
21:25:07 ER: so 22.5% success, 27.5% fail, 50% critfail
21:26:52 ER: hmm, yeah I should probably have sae buff my end rather than my will
21:27:13 ER: d8+5 fares a lot better against d20 than d6+5
21:28:58 ER: so the same as a +1 in dnd :P
22:43:01 Devastator: might get d20 words if I get a bunch of different ones and add them to each other.
22:43:17 Devastator: although I'm assuming that I can't just take the fire word from 56 different rifles and get a d20 that way.. different sources.
22:44:19 Devastator: those wings were d8, but I had them temporary and a Strengthen word.
22:47:19 Devastator: the expand was because I didn't want the wings to rip apart/get stuck in her clothing.
22:48:35 Devastator: I suspect get stuck in is more likely because they're strong armour, and that'd be really awkward.
22:52:13 batman is now known as Piecewise
22:52:46 Devastator: I'm also treating it as if words I get from thaumic gear can't be relearned.
22:52:53 Devastator: so I can't just keep dropping them back on stuff.
22:54:14 Devastator: although if that's not the case it'll make things simpler.
22:54:31 Devastator: and that crystal with the cloth word might not count for that.
22:54:48 Devastator: yeah, that seems like a tool to carry a word, so I'll treat that as reusable.
23:03:10 Devastator:
Piecewise, was there a wardrobe in the core room?
23:04:07 Piecewise: Yes, but its attached to the ground. We can assume you took the clothing out
23:04:47 Devastator: Also, did one or more pieces have that gold cloth on them?
23:05:19 Devastator: I'm going to make a bag of it, and will either need to take some or cast a spell to get some.
23:07:11 Devastator: and I don't want to strip the room of it, at least until after removing the core.
23:13:56 Piecewise: Gold cloth...gold cloth
23:14:40 Piecewise: the fine mesh embedded in the walls of the room?
23:15:30 Devastator: although from that description I'm assuming that literal gold cloth could substitute.
23:23:14 Devastator: Also,
Piecewise, Bill has his flesh. Who you giving the bug hive?
23:24:18 Devastator: I'll ask irony if you're getting bux too, but that's fine.
23:31:13 Devastator: if you want saeko to buff your end, I'm game.
23:31:27 Devastator: she's not light enough currently, and maybe some bonus toxin resistance would be good.
23:42:53 ER: I wonder if anyone has cast a senses based spell in the history of Cabal
23:43:37 Devastator: illusions are awesome.
23:43:50 Devastator: I could make Zavi think she's tiny.
23:45:29 Devastator: will give end for 2 spells. one for toxic resist and one for lighter.
23:46:55 ER: hey
Piecewise, what's the die for immunity to all toxins forever using Toxin Human?
23:46:59 ER: assuming that's what you want
23:47:06 ER: if not you'll have to be more specific
23:47:15 Devastator: I'd settle for 'magically resistant.'
23:47:28 Devastator: like she gets +2 to rolls or toxic armour to it or something.
23:47:42 Devastator: like 1d4 or 1d6 or something.
23:47:49 ER: simpler to just say blanket immunity tbh
23:47:50 Devastator: I mean, immunity forever means no getting drunk. ;-p
23:47:58 Devastator: and you know how bad that is.
23:48:16 ER: I certainly wouldn't mind having that power :P
23:50:40 Devastator: well, saeko doesn't, as drunken Lavos sounds like fun.
23:51:08 ER: I could swear you gave me like d8 for that before
23:51:47 ER: like, something that was in my reach as a d6+1 or whatever
23:52:07 Devastator: nah, it was more than a d8.
23:52:17 Devastator: I think that was for immunity to something.
23:52:57 ER: so what do you want,
dev? d8 lightness and d8 toxin?
23:53:27 Devastator: I'll trade that for the plus end die size.
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