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04:13:59 Piecewise: its what made anime a thing in the west
04:14:07 er: Great animation. I didn't care about the rest of it...
04:14:21 Piecewise: I scrolled through a bit of the chat,
MJ seemed to be having fun
04:14:28 Piecewise: and
NJW apparently didn't show up
04:14:31 Devastator: Drunkenness seemed to have helped.
04:15:40 Devastator: Also, red is totally a superpowers.
04:17:11 Devastator: and yeah, flying a bird wearing armour might be risky.
04:17:29 Devastator: ..although I think Saeko has to keep her outfit on, because I don't think nakedness would help.
04:17:47 Devastator: so is "The Warriors" any good,
Piecewise?
04:17:50 Devastator: I know you've seen it.
04:18:24 Piecewise: Its alright, depends on the person if they actually like it
04:20:23 Piecewise: There are probably others that might be more universally accepted
04:20:39 Piecewise: it has interesting parts but its basically about a bunch of guys running away for a night
04:20:40 Devastator: would being drunk help?
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04:26:50 Piecewise: I mean, being drunk with friends helps with anything right?
04:29:21 Piecewise: If you want I can try to make a list of movies or series that might be good for this...group
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04:30:56 Devastator: mmm, I wouldn't mind having some more material.
04:31:01 Devastator: no,
NJW didn't show up.
04:35:50 syv: Blacking out the whole containment page for the guy was just a joke parodying SCP wiki tendencies to overuse redaction and black.
04:36:32 syv: And yes, it's dumb to do that to the containment procedure. IIRC "don't redact the freaking containment procedures" is one of the few real guidelines they have.
04:37:25 syv: And finally, yes, in their weird shared universe with like five different cosmologies, all the stuff is unredacted somewhere. There's a branch called RAISA, I think, which has completely clear access to all of it.
04:37:42 syv: Oddly enough I'm pretty sure they're still below the O5s.
04:40:26 ER: man, I really don't know the scp lore that well do I
04:40:27 Devastator: those videos are pretty high quality, though.
04:40:29 Devastator: thanks for the link.
04:40:33 Devastator: It's all greek to me.
04:40:58 Devastator: except for the term 'O5', which I think was supposed to be like the vague high council running the place.
04:41:08 Devastator: five cosmologies is news.
04:41:27 Piecewise: I'll go look for stuff
04:43:48 syv: I don't think you need to?
04:44:27 syv: We haven't actually ever run out of things, it's just hard to get people together and to care about any given show. And... your recs don't generally engender much excitement either.
04:44:50 Piecewise: Its admittedly hard to recommend things to a room of people who hate everything
04:45:12 syv: None of us hate everything.
04:45:17 syv:
MJ actually likes everything.
04:45:50 syv: It's just that the other three of us have broad amounts of things we find boring, and there's very little overlap in the gaps.
04:45:54 ER: I guess by the combined powers of me,
syv, and
dev, we might manage to hate most things
04:46:08 syv: About the only place we overlap is violence, really.
04:46:33 syv: Which is... probably not surprising, considering the forum that brought us together.
04:48:45 Piecewise: So something like...shoot em up which is a movie filled with guns and killing, in which a man is killed in the first 3 minutes with a carrot, is fine?
04:48:51 Devastator grumbles about how the early forum was about failure, and not violence. ;-p
04:50:49 syv: Except I think
Dev didn't want that.
04:51:05 Devastator: (It wasn't like that.)
04:51:42 syv: See, usually somebody just says we'll watch a movie, someone else grumbles, then we watch it and most of us enjoy it.
04:52:38 syv: The exceptions where everyone likes it are generally exactly what you'd expect them to be--highly rated things which almost everyone enjoys.
04:55:19 Devastator: or stuff we have special reasons for, like Starcrash.
04:56:55 syv: I've never seen Starcrash, so maybe not?
04:57:03 Devastator: mmm, yeah, maybe not.
04:57:45 Piecewise: Did we ever watch a jackie chan movie?
04:58:02 syv: I'm sure all of us have individually.
04:59:32 Piecewise: Some of his early movies are quite good
04:59:41 Piecewise: There's also the Raid, which is pretty great
04:59:48 Piecewise: Or that new Dredd movie
05:00:11 Devastator: didn't they just make a new dredd movie?
05:01:29 Piecewise: Doesn't look like it?
05:01:52 syv: The modern Dredd movie was great.
05:01:59 syv: It would be good for this group, I think.
05:02:15 Devastator: I've seen it.. I wouldn't go that far, but I would say I was pleasantly surprised.
05:02:25 Devastator: I thought it would suck, but it turned out to be pretty good.
05:03:19 Piecewise: there's a my hero academia movie in theaters right now
05:03:26 Devastator: well, skipping that.
05:04:17 syv: Last time I went to an actual theater, I saw MHA ads before the movie.
05:04:50 Piecewise: My hero academia is actually probably one of the best of its genre. Admittedly the genre is not exactly complex, but you can still do its simple themes and ideas better or worse
05:05:04 Piecewise: Though, there is a weird point in it
05:05:26 Devastator: I don't have a burning hatred for it in particular, but I dearly wish there was one about someone losing and not being bailed out by superpowers.
05:05:27 syv:
Dev doesn't like mainstream things.
05:06:06 Piecewise: All Might, the biggest and most powerful hero, has a red white and blue suit and has attacks named after United States States. Yet his power "One for all" is the embodiment of the japanese idea of collectivism
05:06:40 Devastator: to be fair his power is also the embodiment of the classic flying brick.
05:07:40 Piecewise: Well, his power is passed down between different people and gets stronger with each iteration. They literally phrase it as "The will of many people coming together for the hope of everyone"
05:07:57 Devastator: I think the america thing is just a theme.
05:09:02 Piecewise: Yeah, Its just a sort of odd contrast that Captain America over here -famously individualistic country- has the power of ancestral cooperation
05:12:57 Devastator: There is the whole name, "United States."
05:13:37 syv: Yeaaaah, that's... kind've an instance of how individualistic we are.
05:13:57 syv: It's a bunch of individuals united.
05:14:03 Devastator: ..and his weaker attacks are named after different states.
05:14:11 Devastator: and it's a power that was passed through other heroes.
05:14:14 Piecewise: And I'm pretty sure there are at least a few states that keep wanting to leave
05:14:29 Piecewise: Texas, arizona, and california specifically
05:14:35 syv: Florida should just wiggle out into the ocean.
05:15:16 Piecewise: Nah, we put a big sail on it and turn it into a giant boat filled with alligators
05:15:28 Piecewise: Point it towards china. See what happens
05:15:39 syv: Florida does resemble a pistol.
05:16:12 syv: If America has a giant superweapon hidden somewhere, the panhandle would be... well, probably one of the worst places, but it'd be visually appropriate.
05:17:32 Piecewise: I mean...is florida man not our main weapon of mass destruction?
05:18:25 Devastator: so you want to watch warriors tonight?
05:18:34 Devastator: I wouldn't mind leaving it until later, but that might be some time.
05:18:58 Piecewise: I don't have it so you guys could watch it but I probably won't
05:23:23 Piecewise: Ah, the Lucifer is out now
05:23:44 Piecewise: Dunno if you'll like it
ER
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05:29:02 MidJag: I'm sadly sober tonight.
05:29:22 MidJag: Though at least somewhat more intelligible.
05:29:41 Devastator: up for the warriors?
05:36:18 MidJag: Also a dubs, a rare thing in these parts
05:37:50 Piecewise: I am an old man and you lot keep getting on here past my bed time
05:38:07 Piecewise: Think thats enouhg daka?
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05:38:29 syv: It can't store enough bullets.
05:38:54 syv: ...Is it balancing by leaning on gatling guns?
05:41:37 Devastator: never enough dakka.'
05:46:58 syv: Not really a fan of horror games.
05:47:10 syv: I like writing about people being scared, not being scare myself.
05:48:21 ER: I've still never managed to beat one of their games, but
05:49:59 Piecewise: It has no jumpscares
05:50:12 ER: ...no way that I'm playing a story and atmosphere based game in early access. ;P
05:50:24 Piecewise: yeah I wouldn't recommend playing it now
05:50:29 Piecewise: but you might wanna keep an eye on it
05:50:51 Piecewise: I've seen some cool stuff from it
05:53:58 Piecewise: Horror in general is a hard thing to get right
05:54:10 Piecewise: especially Cosmicism
05:59:57 ER: behold the infinite maglignancy of the stars!
06:01:05 Piecewise: Well, Cosmicism is an artifact of its time
06:01:18 Piecewise: it made a lot more sense in 1900
06:01:46 Piecewise: when the idea that the universe is a big empty place that doesn't care about humans was legitimately new and scary
06:02:20 ER: that's just reality, fuckers
06:09:26 Devastator: 'legitimately new and scary'
06:10:49 Devastator: might not be new, but still scary.
06:11:14 Piecewise: Well, keep in mind that in early 1900's they were still trying to fit the biblical flood into archeology
06:11:43 Devastator: you mean they stopped?
06:11:54 Piecewise: I don't mean weirdo crackpots
06:14:39 Piecewise: The viewpoint in the 1900's was very different from now. Religious thought was nigh universal and the importance of humans in the universe was jsut kind of a known thing
06:15:17 Piecewise: scientific discovery of the time pulled the rug on that whole thing and it was a very philosophically and existentially scary idea.
06:15:26 Piecewise: Lovecraft is just focusing that fear
06:16:55 Piecewise: these days, that mindset isn't really as common
06:17:37 Piecewise: less common among people reading and watching western horror media~
06:21:22 ER: nowadays the real horror is "maybe the universe DOES care about me..."
06:22:06 Piecewise: Is this when I link to the /xeno/ thread?
06:23:23 Devastator: well that sounds like fun.
06:24:36 Piecewise: we are the universe's fetish
06:25:05 ER: just frucking tell me what it is I'm not gonna follow some 4chan link
06:25:39 Piecewise: “We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.”
06:32:20 Piecewise: It was nothing but a joke about the universe being interested in us. Romantically
06:33:13 Piecewise: Or do we earthlings have nothing valuable about us other than our bodies?
06:33:39 ER: eh, bodies are the more replaceable part of that
06:34:04 ER: the most interesting part about us is the part that can be tortured for eternity.
06:34:06 syv: Okay, that thread is admittedly pretty amusing.
06:34:28 syv: "they're turning into her thralls, think vampires but it's an interdimensional parasitic wasp who wants to lay eggs inside you."
06:34:37 syv: Ahh, wonderful. Back to this.
06:35:32 syv: Oh god, fucking winter lantern 34.
06:35:38 syv: I hate those things, SO MUCH
06:35:54 Devastator: whatever the fuck winter lantern 34 is.
06:35:54 Piecewise: That image about the arbiter hugging Master Chief like a swan is pretty cute
06:36:09 Piecewise: Winter Lanterns are fun, totally fair enemies from bloodborne
06:36:20 Piecewise: that everyone enjoyed
06:36:47 Piecewise: Parry what? Her melting your brain by looking at you?
06:37:22 Piecewise: Meh, the grab isn't bad. it only gets people who over extend
06:37:34 ER: I've definately seen someone just run up to one, parry it, and instakill it with a veceral
06:37:41 Piecewise: you go in, get some hits, tank the frenzy, dodge the grab, finish before next frenzy
06:38:02 Piecewise: The big issue is they cause frenzy from a distance
06:38:03 syv: I have the distinct feeling that parrying it requires super exact timing.
06:38:13 ER: yeah, but you bait the grab so that you parry it and kill it before you get frenzied
06:38:14 syv: And I deslt with them by just spamming tiny tonitrus.
06:38:30 syv: While screaming and healing constsntly because I had like 90 insight.
06:38:31 Piecewise: Man, they were TERRIBLE on some runs
06:39:07 Piecewise: hmm did the beast claws require high or low insight...
06:39:54 syv: High insight decreases max beasthood and max frenzy, I think?
06:40:25 Piecewise: yeah, though I'm not sure if having the max beasthood bar smaller but more filled was more effective for them
06:40:56 ER: uh, I think you want a bigger bar
06:40:59 Piecewise: A beast claw/beast rune full werewolf build is great fun though
06:41:00 syv: Pretty sure it's better to have it longer.
06:41:07 ER: the higher it goes the more damage you do
06:41:44 Piecewise: yeah I just forget exactly how it handles that. Lemme look that up
06:41:46 syv: Yep, checked wiki. Higher is better.
06:41:47 ER: unlike other status bars it doesn't do something when it maxes out, but just increases in effect the farther it goes
06:42:15 ER: also different clothes changes how long it is
06:42:24 Piecewise: I wish that beast rune and claw weren't so goddamn annoying to get
06:42:52 Piecewise: If it were on pc I'd just cheat engine them in and do a playthrough with them. but they stick them deep in chalice dungeons and in dlc bosses
06:45:34 syv: I've never actually seen Alien.
06:51:22 syv: "I mean when you think about it, boobs don't really make any sense on humans. None of the other mammals have them unless they're actually nursing. Maybe that IS proof of souls."
06:51:46 Devastator: but they make perfect sense.
06:52:57 syv: Yes, I don't think any part of that makes sense.
06:54:07 ER: okay then dummy, why don't birds have boobs then~
06:54:47 syv: >What are chicken breasts?
06:55:31 ER: expanded to ludicrous size through breeding
06:55:34 syv: I'll disagree on delicious, there.
06:56:03 Devastator: oh, well, that's good.
06:56:13 ER: man, you're not only wrong about veggies, but you're wrong about specific kinds of meat?
06:56:41 syv: "Having taste" is a different state from "being wrong".
06:57:57 Devastator: I don't use physical dice for Sh.
06:58:20 Piecewise: Admittedly most other mammals also have retractable penises and bones in their penis
06:58:44 syv: Clearly hydrostatic genitals are also proof of souls.
06:58:46 ER: and now you know why there are so many furries
06:59:00 Piecewise: Bipedalism might have something to do with our weirdly protruding genitals
06:59:23 Devastator: biggest among all apes, bitches!
06:59:23 syv: This does not surprise me.
06:59:29 Piecewise: Sexless golems like
ER not withstanding
06:59:45 syv: His protrudes weirdly as well, I'm sure.
07:00:10 Piecewise: I'm pretty sure he's a collection of angry seagulls in a trenchcoat
07:00:42 syv: Clearly he's a collection of corvids.
07:01:29 syv: And anyway. I'm sure some of his corvid bits protrude weirdly. It is inevitable.
07:02:49 ER: am I allowed to provide information on my protuding bits
07:03:20 Piecewise: I don't think Corvids have protruding bits
07:03:31 Piecewise: least not constantly
07:03:49 syv: Sometimes they hide them under their wings and feathers, I think.
07:03:51 ER: I'm a fleshhorror made out of corvids, the birds ARE the protuding bits
07:04:03 syv: But I've certainly seen irregular shapes among birds.
07:04:13 syv: Shush
ER, I already said no.
07:04:36 ER: and yet YOU keep talking about it...
07:04:46 Devastator: Note to self: Cast a bunch of slow-effecting Grow Bird spells on Zavi until Zavi will turn into a collection of birds.
07:09:10 Devastator: The drama dice do not stop.
07:10:05 Piecewise:
ER could be described as spiral, barbed, and explosive
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07:36:00 Devastator: Where's that pic of jackie chan putting his hands in the air?
07:46:24 Devastator: that's how I feel when the drama dice kick in.
07:48:01 Devastator: well, you did get 32 on 3d12.
07:48:40 Devastator: odds are about the same.
07:50:11 syv: If you don't like the results the system gives you, fix the system.
07:51:44 Devastator: Just need like 1% chances to stop happening every third update.
07:53:57 syv: Hmm. Have you fallen into the trap of having thirty-three 1% scenarios?
07:54:29 Devastator: Not really. There were two extreme scenarios.
07:55:02 syv: I.E. is your system build such that there's many unlikely edge cases?
07:55:03 syv: Or is this legitimately the maximal 1% happening consistently?
07:55:03 Devastator: one on a 1,1, and this one with the chained 12s.
07:55:47 Devastator: not that consistantly, getting rolled was more likely than this. I think I had that on 1/12, 50%, and then 2/3.
07:57:10 Devastator: it hasn't been running long enough for me to say that for certain.
09:49:45 ER: did you beat the boss rush mode in luna nights?
09:49:56 ER: does anything interesting happen when you do?
09:50:16 syv: I beat it. You get gems based on how fast you did it.
09:50:32 syv: Diamonds, rubies, and sapphires IIRC.
09:51:40 syv: I hacked a save to have 9999 of all gems, which about doubled damage, so I think +atk gems (which you get only tens of even for a two minute clear) are basically worthless.
09:52:07 ER: Feel like I would have to grind some gems to beat it anyways
09:52:19 syv: Oh, 20x whites, 20x greens for two minute clear.
09:52:27 ER: spent everything to buy all the upgrades and my mana regens soooo sloooown
09:52:29 syv: It's fun though, the bosses are good.
09:53:44 ER: I might have a few. I hit sell all though
09:54:05 syv: Ah. Yeah, that's a bad idea.
09:54:22 ER: I just wanted to buy everything.
09:54:54 ER: it's not to crippling to go through the areas with no gems, and you get a good amount from going through the postgame one
09:55:06 syv: I could give you the max gem save if you want. I think it also has 100% and all unlocks and whatnot. Can just sell excess gems to get to where you'd be. ~2000 purple ~1000 gold was what I had when I finished the game.
09:55:19 ER: I basically ground gems going through the whole game clearing out secret items
09:55:47 syv: Did the same. Forget whether I had 2k purps before or after that.
09:56:00 ER: I have 100% and no gems, which seems like a fine place to end it to me...
09:56:04 syv: (I accidentally saved over my original save when hacking it)
09:56:31 syv: Yeah. Bosses are fun, but definitely not worth grinding.
09:56:48 ER: took looking up a map to figure out what the trash cans on the pause screen meant
09:57:09 syv: Heh, you didn't figure that out?
09:57:21 ER: they take up like half the space for items and are basically meaningless
09:57:26 syv: She tells you to dispose your trash properly~
09:58:32 ER: and each trashcan you do it to shows up in completion
09:59:05 ER: so I pretty much went through all the areas getting items, then realized I needed to look for trashcans as well and went through them one more time -_-
09:59:37 ER: praise the holy sword, though
10:00:04 syv: Can you use mana/time regen items in the boss rush?
10:00:46 ER: I'm not really a big fan of how this game handles consumables
10:01:10 syv: It's pretty much the only thing you can do with money now, though.
10:01:18 ER: they're really expensive, cost a resource which permanantly powers you up, and heals you for a small amount instantly
10:01:55 ER: and maybe the time one is a fullheal?
10:02:43 ER: yeah, kinda seems like something you're supposed to grind for if you're really bad at the game and can't avoid boss attacks
10:03:10 ER: at least they probably come back if you use them in a boss and then die
10:03:14 syv: At which point one would question why you're playing thr game.
10:03:50 ER: "oh, you're bad at this? You can still beat it, but we'll make it as unpleasant as possible!"
10:03:53 syv: 'Cause I'm curious, how'd you defeat the last boss?
10:04:08 ER: how? Same way as normal, I guess
10:04:33 ER: timestop chainsaws and timeslow thousanddaggers
10:05:07 syv: ...Wait, with timeslow? Why?
10:05:12 ER: I was streaming for
PW and he said "three more deaths before I have to go"
10:05:20 ER: and I beat it on the third try ;P
10:06:03 ER: I think timeslow TD does more damage. maybe. Feels like it. Also you're invuln while in TD, so timeslow lets you avoid shit
10:06:13 ER: no, third try after he said
10:06:22 ER: way more than three overall
10:06:40 syv: Ah. Okay, was pretty flabbergasted by that.
10:11:44 ER: shoulda lied and claimed to be a god gamer. oh well
10:13:25 syv: Don't worry. You're still better than me.
10:17:24 ER: did you do a lot of timestop to charge timeslow?
10:18:22 ER: I did a lot of press square > hold cross > press square > release cross > press triangle
10:18:51 syv: Yes, usually I used timestop to get timeslow.
10:19:14 syv: With Reimu, I mostly used TD defensively, though. Never timeslowed it, because I was mostly using it for i-frames.
10:20:10 ER: using skills defensively? why would you ever do that?~
11:27:21 syv: 'd give you a hug but I can't reach that far.
11:27:49 ER: I can go like a week and a half updating a game an average of 1/3 days, then spend a weekend freaking about, then like two weeks depressed, then really feel like running a game again but feel out of rhythm
11:29:17 syv: Well, it's a pattern, at least.
11:31:59 ER: if I whack my face into it hard enough, can I make it repeat?
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17:57:56 Piecewise: How many Tetsuo cosplays will there be at the 2020 Olympics you think?
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19:40:36 er: "Hey, you're from that MHA anime, right?"
19:41:03 er: *cosplayer gets angry and magically instagibs the questioner
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