ERLOG 2020-02-25

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00:47:03 syv has joined #einsteinianroulette
00:47:19 syv: RGU asked to rejoin PS.
00:47:29 ER: \o/
00:47:40 ER: glorious return of ak girl
00:47:45 syv: Indeed.
00:48:14 syv: I checked his last post, which was six months ago. Apparently I've made a real update... twice, since then.
00:48:15 ER: well, I probably have more aks currently.
00:48:34 ER: yeah, not that hard to deal him in...
00:48:36 syv: Which means PS is basically on quarterly updates.
00:48:42 syv: Yup.
00:48:44 ER: I noticed~
00:50:09 syv: But yeah, I told him he can rejoin, but asked that he choose somebody who can give commands for Aleksandra if he goes absent again. Because absent players *do* make things harder.
00:51:44 ER: hmm, does that mean five players this labrynth?
00:54:36 syv: Potentially.
00:54:45 syv: That would make me feel much better about its difficulty.
00:54:54 ER: assuming none of us die irl before that point
00:55:21 syv: Honestly I was kinda wondering if RGU had actually died.
00:55:37 ER: apparently not
00:55:45 syv: Put it in your will that somebody else has to take over for your character.
00:55:49 ER: can't be sure, but prolly not
00:56:32 ER: who would I give that to? I don't even know.
00:57:56 syv: Someone you don't know who has a bleeding heart?
00:58:25 syv: "This dead guy asked you to take care of his fictional character after his death, do it or you're a jerk."
01:02:51 ER: speaking of quarterly updates, I'm still staring at prequel
01:05:02 syv: Has the last nightmare aired yet?
01:05:56 ER: don't believe so
01:08:02 syv: Bah.
01:08:27 ER: kaz pls
01:10:13 sy has joined #einsteinianroulette
01:10:19 syv has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:11:10 sy is now known as syv
02:11:33 ER: have I linked every single marisa song yet? https://youtu.be/jcDGRur1oiY
02:12:14 Devastator: Of course!
02:12:36 Devastator: Also, yay.
02:12:42 Devastator: now alida can thank her.
02:12:50 Devastator: which should be a fun scene between us.
02:13:14 ER: thanks for turning me into a kaiju, sorry for dooming your soul
02:15:05 Devastator: she's like horse-sized, ER.
02:15:09 Devastator: that's not a kaiju.
02:15:16 ER: SOON
02:16:10 Devastator goes and checks how fast she's growing.
02:17:22 Devastator: maybe in three or four in-game months.
02:18:52 Devastator: at that point she'd be about the size of an immature t-rex.
02:21:16 ER: somehow, both saeko and alida will become kaiju and then merge together and doom the whole multiverse
02:21:19 ER: calling it
02:22:09 Devastator: ..ok.
02:23:17 syv: The crossover nobody expected.
02:23:32 Devastator: yes.
02:23:33 ER: gotta form that knot somehow
02:23:43 ER: and time travel is pretty much out of the question
02:23:49 syv: Me and Piecewise doing a crossover would be weird. We're, like, exactly the opposite of each other in terms of GMing.
02:24:17 Devastator: yes.
02:26:34 ER: something something ego and id
02:28:27 Devastator: where do I fit in?
02:29:02 ER: where do any of us?
02:29:03 syv: You're the angry monkey inside the brain ranting about things.
02:29:07 ER: we are mere mortals
02:29:23 Devastator: that sounds like the id. ;-p
03:21:52 ER: maybe I should write fork
03:21:56 ER: foooork
03:22:12 Devastator: forked?
03:22:18 Devastator: good orders in Cabal, btw, I like them.
03:23:16 syv: furk
03:23:16 ER: I'm just gonna go hide under a rock is thats okay with yall
03:23:21 syv: Okay
03:23:23 syv: Have fun
03:23:34 syv: <3
03:23:44 ER: in cabal. :P
03:24:02 Devastator: yeah, it's a good idea.
03:24:07 Devastator: we're probably going to be finished here.
03:24:10 Devastator: but maybe not.
03:24:41 ER: ...a d8 spell at d8+2 is a pretty good call, right?
03:24:53 Devastator: fairly likely.
03:24:56 Devastator: want the odds?
03:25:06 ER: I still find it really hard to judge those without using the calculator
03:25:54 Devastator: you got about 75% if ties are successes, and 2/3 if they aren't.
03:26:24 syv: ~3/4 if ties are successes, and 67% if they aren't.
03:27:02 syv: Also just use the calculator, like us.
03:27:20 syv: ...Should I figure out how to make Anydice spit out critfail chances?
03:27:24 Devastator: nah, 64 possibilities, and you win an extra 15 of them. ;-p
03:27:29 Devastator: eh, easy enough.
03:27:33 syv: Since we seem to use it for Cabal a fair bit.
03:27:47 Devastator: critfails for 1d8+2 are on ties, so..
03:27:56 Devastator: 3+1
03:28:02 Devastator: 4/64
03:28:04 Devastator: 1/16
03:33:12 syv: What's 3+1 mean, there?
03:33:28 Devastator: roll a 1, critfail on 6,7,8
03:33:33 Devastator: roll a 2, critfail on 8.
03:33:37 Devastator: so 3+1 chances.
03:33:40 syv: Ahh.
03:33:56 syv: I mentally did it as 2+1+1.
04:01:18 Piecewise has joined #einsteinianroulette
04:01:47 syv: Hello, Piecewise.
04:01:56 Piecewise: hello
04:02:05 Devastator: Hello dubs.
04:02:06 Devastator: good to see you.
04:03:25 Piecewise: But you cannot, I am naught but an abstract presence
04:03:39 ER: I'm slightly curious how much chain lightning d8 mana can get me
04:03:47 Piecewise: for all you know I'm just AI dungeon 3, hooked up to an IRC client
04:04:11 ER: we say it's good to see you when you arrive because you're here to hear us say it
04:04:12 Devastator: Hah.
04:04:16 Piecewise: If this devolves into weird sex stuff, then you'll know
04:04:18 ER: we are watching you all the time
04:04:33 Devastator: mmm.
04:04:39 ER: PICEWISE I get ye ball gag
04:04:56 Piecewise: The ball gag tells you to kill a wizard
04:05:12 ER: I cast d8 chain lightning on the wizard
04:05:55 Devastator: better than magic missile.
04:06:15 Devastator: Nah, what's that..
04:06:15 Piecewise: But are you screaming "UNLIMITED POWER!" while you use it?
04:06:20 Devastator: Evard's Black Tentacles.
04:06:35 ER: I don't have the words for that yet, dev
04:06:46 Piecewise: Yet
04:06:49 syv: Piecewise:
04:06:53 ER: AI dungeon has a context system now so it can know what you have
04:06:53 syv: >Cast Magic Missile
04:07:04 Devastator: mmm.
04:07:04 ER: no really though
04:07:18 ER: tell me how shooty d8 lightning is
04:07:21 Devastator: dunno, if I can dig a contain out of a barrel, that'd be pretty good for restraints.
04:07:26 Piecewise: You cast a magic missile in aluminum and give it to the wizard. The wizard blushes
04:07:33 Devastator: heh
04:08:08 Piecewise: What do you mean "How shooty" it is? How many things it can chain through?
04:08:12 Piecewise: how much damage it does?
04:08:35 ER: how much damage can I do to a bunch of things at once?
04:08:46 ER: mechanical fliers, like we're fighting
04:09:15 Piecewise: Hmm. I'm not actually sure it would deal damage to pure metal creatures. It might just flow through them.
04:09:20 Devastator: Uh oh.
04:09:32 Piecewise: let me see what happens to planes hit by lightning
04:09:34 Devastator: <-- is not a pure metal creature, and is wearing metal armour.
04:09:40 Devastator: not that much, but can do something.
04:10:03 Piecewise: Well then, we'll assume int can do minor damage, but nowhere near as much as to organic critters
04:10:12 Piecewise: unless you heat them up or something
04:10:27 ER: Are you telling me they don't have organic crew?
04:10:41 Piecewise: No, they don't
04:10:48 ER: Would I know that?
04:10:51 Piecewise: Nothing the mechanists have sent out so far have anything organic in them
04:11:01 Piecewise: Probably, since dev downed that balloon
04:11:03 Devastator: well, except wood.
04:11:10 ER: what balloon?
04:11:14 Piecewise: Oh dear
04:11:19 Devastator: the airship that the magebreakers shot down.
04:11:24 Devastator: someone with a magic lance did it.
04:12:08 Piecewise: We can assume dev told you about it at some point
04:12:40 Piecewise: Sy knows it too, since he spent days dissecting the robits
04:13:09 Devastator: well, you could just make it lightning explosions.
04:13:13 Devastator: or just explosion.
04:13:14 ER: would I do more damage if I did uh, chain lighting with an aura of explosive force? :V
04:13:50 ER: EHCS-SU-SPLOOOOSION!
04:14:28 Piecewise: Sure. If you can rupture their floatation devices you can bring them down.
04:14:40 Piecewise: and on the ground they're far less dangerous.
04:14:53 Piecewise: best they can do is skitter around a bit and swipe at you
04:15:13 Piecewise: as opposed to being high speed blades whizzing around
04:16:10 ER: more like once they're downed saeko can kite them infinitely and I can go hide under a rock
04:16:21 Devastator: Probably. I think Benny would enjoy that.
04:16:36 Devastator: even if not edible.
04:16:50 Devastator: never got around to making him able to eat metal. Might do that now that I could regrow him with a lot fewer spells.
04:17:02 Devastator: eh, so much to do.
04:18:08 Piecewise: Maybe he'll bat them around like a cat
04:19:58 Devastator: yeah, quite possibly.
04:20:07 Devastator: I'm pretty sure he's bigger than the individual chunks.
04:20:16 ER: CHONK
04:20:41 Devastator: mmm, I dunno, if he's literally half-metal it might scare people too much at this point. Gotta get minions first so I don't need to worry about it.
04:21:43 ER: do I have to go beat her up if she doesn't actually harm anyone but everyone is terrified of her?
04:22:14 Devastator: Oh, harm will come.
04:22:34 ER: and so will beam sword
04:23:00 Devastator: maaaaybe.
04:23:12 Devastator: You can already have a beam sword.
04:23:19 Devastator: they're like sitting right there.
04:23:21 Devastator: go pick one up.
04:23:25 ER: Not that kind.
04:23:32 ER: This kind is COOLER
04:23:39 Devastator: I'm sure a permanent could do that part.
04:23:46 ER: and also kaiju killing with enough mana investment :V
04:23:51 Devastator: okay, what kind of beam sword?
04:24:15 ER: and I get it for free, rather than having to muck around looting and modifying something.
04:24:38 syv: (ER) EHCS-SU-SPLOOOOSION!
04:24:44 syv: What is this a reference to...?
04:24:49 Piecewise: Konasuba
04:25:29 Piecewise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coYieIF8I5M
04:25:42 ER: from what I understand, it involves a mage who blows shit up.
04:26:15 ER: other than that, it sounds mildly to moderately skeevy and oz likes it so fuck it
04:26:16 Devastator: In-dig-nat-ion! ;-p
04:26:54 Piecewise: Her name is Megumin. She's a powerful mage but she refuses to use anything but the most powerful explosion magic she can possibly use, which drains her mana and makes her uselss afterwards
04:27:07 Devastator: so like black mage but slightly less awesome?
04:27:16 Piecewise: Something like that I guess
04:27:27 Piecewise: Konasuba is a deconstructive comedy about isekais
04:29:16 Devastator: mmm.
04:29:29 ER: I mean, I'm just passively listening to this which is relevant to desires to blow shit up with magic https://youtu.be/VClTdPwCHzM
04:30:42 Piecewise: ER is listening to Touhou music? How uncharacteristically weeby
04:30:53 ER: 2hu bby
04:31:11 ER: it doesn't count, it's a videogame you see
04:31:16 syv: Since when is ER not weeby?
04:31:36 syv: He doesn't watch anime, or read mangos, but he loves basically everything else weeby.
04:31:43 ER: which I gave up on when I saw that the version on steam wasn't already translated for me without having to look shit up
04:32:00 Devastator: any more terranigma tonight, ER?
04:32:00 ER: syv speaks truth
04:32:21 ER: ...except I don't really like JRPGs either, mostly in gameplay terms
04:33:01 Piecewise: You ever play that touhou side scroller with the time mechanics?
04:33:05 Piecewise: I forget the name
04:33:09 ER: luna nights?
04:33:12 Piecewise: ye
04:33:12 ER: no...
04:33:17 Piecewise: Its good
04:33:39 ER: I know, but spending money or pirating videogames is effort
04:34:03 syv: Pirating videogames isn't effort. Ask me to find it for you.
04:34:30 syv: I've spent hours hunting down games that I don't care about at all before, simply because it makes me irritated when I get told I can't pirate something.
04:34:33 ER: much harder than watching youtube videos about guns locks smash and simpsons
04:35:08 Devastator: heh
04:35:09 ER: okay, get me a magnet link for touhou luna nights please <3
04:35:20 Piecewise: Gunlock Smash Simpsons
04:35:32 Devastator: mmm, wonder if I can come up with something unpirateable..
04:35:44 Piecewise: There are a few
04:35:48 ER: youtube recommendation algorithm works disturbingly well on me
04:36:06 Piecewise: I think there's some rugby manager game with Deunovo that was never cracked
04:36:25 ER: all these shitty moments will be lost
04:36:30 ER: like piss in rain
04:36:50 syv: I'm not gonna fight Denuvo, actually. So that can remain uncracked.
04:37:46 Devastator: well there's Stardock's OS/2 version of Entrepeneur.
04:39:23 Devastator: Hmm, you know, their sequel to that, The Corporate Machine was pretty fun.
04:40:27 ER: stream up
04:40:38 ER: terranigma!
04:41:12 Devastator: yay.
04:41:13 ER: you want watch, PW? :3
04:41:21 Devastator: Let me know if you get stuck.
04:42:47 ER: I was going to use a fortune teller
04:42:56 ER: but apparently I forgot where they all were
04:42:57 Piecewise: Huh
04:43:00 Piecewise: stream is dark for me
04:43:15 ER: ah sorry
04:43:20 ER: I blame OBS :P
04:43:55 ER: you have to flick some switch on and off to make it play with snes9x for whatever reason
04:44:35 Devastator: "I guess you don't get tired."
04:44:44 ER: really.
04:44:59 Piecewise: Huh
04:45:05 Piecewise: the world map is just earth
04:45:12 Devastator: Oh man.
04:45:14 ER: yes it is
04:45:19 Devastator: You never played Terranigma, Piecewise?
04:45:23 Piecewise: nah
04:45:27 Devastator: Oh man, it's something.
04:45:30 Devastator: you should do that sometime.
04:45:37 Piecewise: I never played video games till about n64
04:45:42 Devastator: mmm.
04:45:56 Devastator: well, that only got released in Europe, so..
04:46:00 ER: give me treasure, desert!
04:46:04 Piecewise: well there you go
04:46:06 Piecewise: HEY ER
04:46:06 Devastator: hah.
04:46:12 Piecewise: you should try shadow tower Abyss
04:46:36 Devastator: I think there's supposed to be a dead guy with a starstone in here, but it might not be here yet.
04:46:37 ER: PS2?
04:46:43 Devastator: or you put the starstone in already.
04:46:51 Piecewise: I think so...might be ps1 but I think ps2
04:47:13 ER: the sailors talk about a guy with a gem dying in the sahara, so it would be strange for it to not be here yet?
04:47:25 ER: I looked it up, it's ps2
04:47:27 Piecewise: ps2, yeah
04:47:35 syv: All the best games were PS2.
04:47:38 ER: so far I've only collected a snes emulator
04:47:59 Devastator: Yeah, but there's flags. You know how timey-wimey this game is.
04:48:15 ER: you mean I know how bullshit this game is
04:48:37 Devastator: Yeah.
04:48:37 syv: Also, don't bother emulating PS2, it's a headache.
04:48:43 Devastator: Apparently it's on the north end of the screen.
04:49:49 ER: one sec...
04:49:58 Devastator: but you could wait until you need them. Next plot spot isn't on them.
04:50:47 ER: I think that my usb cable being incredibly frayed might not be ideal conditions for my controller
04:50:56 Devastator: mmm.
04:51:14 Devastator: black screen again.
04:51:20 ER: oh yeah
04:51:31 Piecewise: https://youtu.be/-ltFIvs6wkw?t=730
04:51:54 ER: aww
04:52:21 Piecewise: Shadow tower has dismemberment, guns, and weird magic bullshit
04:52:24 Piecewise: also a fromsoft game
04:52:38 ER: but syv told me not to bother with ps2 emulation :P
04:52:45 Piecewise: Thats up to you
04:52:53 Piecewise: Its not THAT bad honestly.
04:52:58 Piecewise: but it can be annoying
04:53:15 syv: Admittedly I've only done it for SotC, really.
04:53:32 Piecewise: SotC always had framerate issues when emulated for me
04:53:32 syv: Also Gauntlet, after SotC was configured, but that didn't really work so well ever.
04:53:45 syv: It didn't have fps issues, just mechanics issues.
04:53:46 ER: shadow tower will either be easier than SotC or much much worse, knowing From
04:53:57 Devastator: or both.
04:54:07 syv: On hard, Avion *cannot* be stabbed.
04:54:23 Piecewise: Can you go to burger land and eat burger?
04:54:29 ER: yes
04:54:53 ER: also, this
04:55:11 Devastator: yay.
04:57:14 ER: borgor guy
04:57:36 ER: ...not sure how to obtain borgor tho
04:57:49 Devastator: It's time-locked.
04:57:52 Devastator: gotta advance the plot.
04:57:58 ER: fucking plot
04:58:03 Devastator: yeah.
04:58:03 ER: who ever thought of plot
04:58:09 ER: I hate plot
04:58:22 Devastator: I think you can do something in Freedom or Loire, but you've been extremely thorough.
04:58:25 Devastator: otherwise, it's plot.
04:59:16 Piecewise: Too bad its plot and not "Plot"
04:59:23 Devastator: This game has some plot.
04:59:44 ER: huh, that's the same
05:00:01 Piecewise: Nice MC hammer pants
05:00:22 Piecewise: Hmm
05:00:24 Devastator: Yeah.
05:00:31 syv: It has Plot, Dev? Really?
05:00:35 Devastator: Yes.
05:00:37 ER: time to go stare at this dancer animation
05:00:38 Devastator: It's some game.
05:00:44 Piecewise: I wonder what the curvature of the earth they have going on there is called. Mode 7?
05:00:56 Devastator: Yes, that's mode 7.
05:00:57 syv: Ass Plot, or Chest Plot?
05:01:00 Devastator: and you ain't seen nothing yet.
05:01:12 Piecewise: Mode 7 ass
05:01:13 Devastator: The start of the game does something very new with mode 7.
05:01:14 ER: but I like dancer
05:01:19 Piecewise: ITS SO CURVED
05:01:53 Devastator: you know, with the whole.. overworld.. thing.
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05:02:14 Piecewise: SyCHOMP
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05:02:33 ER: syChamp
05:02:51 ER: oh yeah, irc is on screen, I can turn off the BEEP for yall
05:03:07 Piecewise: I'm watching Blade of the Immortal and its interesting to realize that Fromsoft went from ripping off Berserk with Souls to ripping off blade of the immortal with sekiro
05:03:08 syv: Don't actually know if it works, but it's from Dauphong, and I haven't gotten a bad torrent form him before.
05:03:26 syv: Sekiro is a ripoff of anything?
05:03:32 syv: That's pretty sad.
05:03:38 ER: blade of the immortal, apparently!
05:03:44 Piecewise: Its a rip off in the same way that it takes inspiration from it
05:03:56 Piecewise: just like DS took inspiration from Berserk
05:04:03 syv: It sounds like an edgier Sword of the Stranger.
05:04:05 Piecewise: ARtorias is basically Guts after all
05:04:20 syv: Did Guts have a dog?
05:04:29 ER: who is artorias's griffith though
05:04:45 Piecewise: https://www.skullknight.net/griffith/dog2.jpg
05:05:03 syv: Welp.
05:05:03 Devastator: huh.
05:05:06 ER: pupper confirmed
05:05:09 Piecewise: Manus I guess?
05:05:17 ER: MANUUUUUUUUUS
05:05:22 Piecewise: They took character ideas, not story ideas really
05:05:36 ER: now
05:05:37 syv: For DaS or Sekiro?
05:05:46 ER: what the hell am I doing in this dungeon.
05:05:55 ER: it's been like a month
05:05:58 Devastator: Yeah.
05:05:58 syv: Adventuring!
05:06:00 Devastator: you already did it.
05:06:11 Piecewise: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/96107443446634696/47211029D0DC2E5ED14078804F861F1CB58B74BE/
05:06:38 Piecewise: Sekiro actually has a lot less inspiration taken from blade of the immortal than ds took from berserk
05:06:54 Piecewise: but the idea of immortals kept alive via worm infestation is from blade of the immortal
05:06:57 Devastator: go do the next dungeon if you want dungeon.
05:07:32 Piecewise: Though the "Immortals" in blade are a lot less immortal than the ones in sekiro
05:07:36 ER: this is the next dungeon dev
05:07:59 Piecewise: Are me and ER the only ones who played sekiro?
05:08:06 syv: I... don't actually disagree, I've never read Berserk and it seems like "DaS is HEAVILY inspired by Berserk" is a very common opinion, but you're not arguing it well. You're just arguing that Artorias is an expy of Guts.
05:08:08 syv: No?
05:08:19 syv: I 100%'d it like within a week of release.
05:08:24 Piecewise: Ah, ok
05:08:30 syv: You downvoted my negative review.
05:08:38 Piecewise: Did I?
05:09:19 syv: Think so. I complained about there only being one equippable weapon, and there being way too many human enemies. And about the combat arts and prosthetics broadly sucking.
05:09:43 Piecewise: I'm surprised you 100%'d it
05:09:51 Piecewise: that "Get all skills" trophy is annoying
05:10:10 syv: I just went and did NG+++++.
05:10:22 syv: I think. Might've only been +4.
05:10:36 ER: frikking grave poison
05:11:08 syv: The game is fun, it's very good, it just continually irritates me with how there's so much meh cruft that could be awesome.
05:11:13 Devastator: you can equip your serums.
05:11:34 syv: Also the story is crap.
05:11:39 syv: Gotta get that complaint out.
05:11:48 syv: Because it's crap.
05:11:53 ER: yes, or I can equip BOOTS
05:11:54 Piecewise: ACtually looks like you have more hours in it than me despite me beating it with all endings and then in boss rush 3-4 times
05:12:16 syv: Yeah, not surprising. Think I've done an additional two full runs with mods?
05:12:27 Devastator: boots don't need to be equipped to work.
05:12:39 ER: then why can they be equipped?
05:12:59 Piecewise: I think the story was fine. It's a straight forward japanese samurai story really
05:13:03 Devastator: it's a thing for all items.
05:13:07 Piecewise: well, except the dragon
05:13:27 syv: Straightforward Japanese samurai stories are crap.
05:13:38 ER: look, it's down here with the leaves, claws, and herbs
05:13:45 ER: none of those are possible to equip
05:13:52 Piecewise: I think you're confusing personal preference with objective fact
05:14:05 syv: My personal preference is objective fact.
05:14:10 Piecewise: ah
05:14:14 syv: Also, I hate @olf.
05:14:17 syv: Wolf.
05:14:42 Piecewise: I'm curious how you hate someone with such minimal personality
05:14:44 ER: just play as emma instead
05:14:49 syv: ^^^
05:14:52 syv: To both of them.
05:15:34 Piecewise: No Isshin dlc
05:15:35 Piecewise: boo
05:15:56 Devastator: did you get the anchor?
05:16:09 ER: what? no, what's that?
05:16:29 syv: So.
05:16:40 Devastator: upstairs.
05:16:41 syv: What is this Luna Nights thing that I am now downloading for unclear reasons?
05:16:45 Devastator: I think you go all the way up and to the north.
05:17:02 Piecewise: Anyways, in regards to DS and berserk, I don't think it ripped off berserk so much as took inspiration from it. Design ideas mostly. Their stories are really nothing alike and artorias and guts aren't alike as characters. Really more like "Thats a cool idea, lets take part of it"
05:17:10 Piecewise: Luna nights is
05:17:24 Piecewise: https://store.steampowered.com/app/851100/Touhou_Luna_Nights/
05:17:33 ER: luna nights is a touhou metiodvania where you play as Dio except a girl and a maid
05:17:38 Piecewise: Yeah
05:17:45 syv: .....
05:17:49 Piecewise: core mechanics are time manipulation and throwing knives
05:18:08 syv: Just in time to stop me from canceling the torrent.
05:18:10 syv: Time manip?
05:18:34 Piecewise: Yeah
05:19:09 ER: you know, like dio :P
05:19:29 syv: Dio has Time manip?
05:19:42 Piecewise: ZA WORLDO
05:19:43 ER: that's basically his gimmick
05:19:49 syv: I admit I know nothing of Dio beyond being a recurring and unexpdcted villain in the dumb stand anime.
05:19:57 Devastator: You want the left side of the waterfall.
05:20:27 Piecewise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ePWNmLP0Z0
05:20:31 Piecewise: Dio can stop time
05:20:36 Piecewise: or his stand can
05:21:01 Devastator: yeah, you want to land on that platform.
05:21:03 ER: time freezing vampire with knives
05:22:24 ER: yeah, I think I hate every enemy in this one
05:22:47 Piecewise: The luna nights is all about manipulating time, barely dodging through and past enemies, and throwing a million knives into their faces
05:23:08 Devastator: it lets you ignore currents.
05:23:28 syv: I want a PvP FPS where you continually fight during stopped time, and time periodically resumes for like a half-second to let bullets travel.
05:23:57 syv: Spray tons of bullets at where you think your opponent might end up, and then hope they get shot when the bullets actually move.
05:25:17 ER: okay, so what do I do with this?
05:25:33 Devastator: should be some new areas.
05:26:06 Devastator: yeah, there.
05:26:14 Devastator: that bubble area next to the waterfall you just left, that's it.
05:26:59 Piecewise: Isn't there a Madoka fight like that, Sy?
05:27:07 syv: Yes.
05:27:11 syv: This is why I want it.
05:27:59 ER: this is the entrance, dev
05:28:03 Piecewise: Sounds like it would be easy enough to do
05:28:11 Devastator: mmm, dangit.
05:28:58 syv: Probably, yeah. Syncing would be more the issue, but that's never not an issue in PvP games.
05:29:12 Devastator: yeah, there's a pipe to break that floods the bottom level, but I think you already did that.
05:29:13 syv: Sadly, I do not actually make things.
05:29:29 Piecewise: Might be able to be modded into a game
05:29:37 ER: don't think I have, dev
05:29:40 ER: where is it?
05:29:58 Devastator: drop down the waterfall and head left.
05:30:42 Devastator: north, stairs, north.
05:31:22 Devastator: north to geostaff chest.
05:31:32 Devastator: then right. Throw a rock at the leaky pipe.
05:32:18 Devastator: yeah, peg that.
05:32:19 ER: "pipe"
05:32:21 Devastator: with a rock.
05:32:25 Devastator: that's what this says..
05:32:31 Devastator: there you go.
05:32:40 syv: Modding it into a full game would prolly be harder than it's worth, unless there's some game engine that's particularly suitable. The most basic implementation would prolly be pretty reasonable, I suppose--it's just that projectiles all only move at specific times, together--but to make it actually be a *good* game it'd need much more. Some kinda indication of where bullets will actually travel upon an unpause, for instan
05:33:11 ER: nah, let em guess~
05:33:44 syv: I'unno, probably could actually make some kinda thing like that myself, but it's not worth spending my time on. I have PS and Spiderman to channel creative energies into, and I'm actually competent at both of those. Apparently.
05:33:59 ER: well, you could just change the particle sprite of all your bullet to extend forwards a certain lenght while time is paiused
05:34:24 syv: Maybe!
05:34:24 ER: ark get rock
05:37:19 syv: ...Would probably be most interesting if it's a zero-g flying game, where you have to travel by firing guns backward. That way you're always spewing more bullets everywhere, and you can't reliably dodge while attacking. Plus having momentum would make it more reasonable to trap people.
05:37:53 ER: gravity doesn't work in frozen time
05:37:54 ER: cly
05:38:07 syv: Or friction, yes.
05:39:42 ER: so it's not a time jammer, it's a physjammer
05:39:59 ER: no heat, no gravity, not friction, no time
05:40:10 syv: Fizzjammer.
05:40:40 Piecewise: No items
05:40:43 Piecewise: final destination
05:41:03 Devastator: fox only.
05:41:06 syv: This sounds like some kind of reality show in UWM.
05:41:13 ER: fox and falco
05:41:31 ER: yay, dmr returns
05:41:40 syv: "We throw these two random idiots into an arena where physics is largely disabled and they're completely unarmed, eventually one dies, and they're the winner!"
05:41:59 syv: Space magic is a hell of a drug.
05:42:10 Devastator: Yes, the one who dies is the winner.
05:42:24 ER: no no, the whole premice depends upon m60s with unlimited ammo belts
05:42:33 syv: Dubs did say no items.
05:42:45 Devastator: the doctor cells aren't items.
05:42:45 syv: But I'm very okay with that interpretation as well.
05:42:46 ER: wsewll then dubs is dummy
05:44:54 Piecewise: STARFISH ADHERED TO ARK
05:46:21 ER: ...
05:46:37 syv: Ohhh, he's talking about your stream.
05:46:45 syv: I was assuming he was just... babbling.
05:46:46 ER: hornypin!
05:46:53 Devastator: there you go.
05:46:56 Devastator: it's too weird for PW babble.
05:47:03 syv: Useful for when they Plot comes around.
05:47:22 syv: Weaver will be disappointed that it's only a pin, though.
05:47:32 Devastator: It's ok.
05:47:37 Devastator: you have seen his crystal staff, right?
05:48:39 syv: No.
05:48:56 Devastator: yeah, he's fully equipped, let me tell you something.
05:49:05 Devastator: I think Egan even had to start discarding extras.
05:50:01 ER: yeah, the way I play games is COLLECT ALL THE WEAPONS AND ARMOR, and I filled the whole weapon room
05:50:09 ER: which apparently dev didn't know was possible
05:50:24 Devastator: Yeah.
05:50:30 Devastator: I thought it had one spot for each weapon.
05:51:52 Piecewise: hah
05:51:57 Piecewise: I like that fall off animation
05:52:51 Piecewise: So is ER fighitn all this bare handed or is that just the standard animation?
05:53:04 ER: it's a spear animation
05:53:14 Piecewise: huh, looks like rapid punching
05:53:19 ER: though if you mash attack it looks like ORAOROAROOAOAOROAOROAOR
05:53:26 Devastator: All is spear.
05:53:28 Piecewise: yeah
05:54:02 ER: huh
05:54:04 Piecewise: Man, Palin really could see russia from her back yard in this world
05:54:26 Devastator: considering she's from Anchorage, still no. ;-p
05:55:11 Devastator: That's a birb ride.
05:55:19 Piecewise: Russia and alaska appear to be about 3 feet away so...maybe if she stood on a box or something
05:56:04 Piecewise: >THIS IS THE OASIS OF MY SOUL
05:56:23 Devastator: Ahh.
05:57:28 ER: looks like an arstotskan passport thre
05:57:43 Piecewise: DENIED
05:57:44 Devastator: It's red.
05:57:47 Devastator: that's Obristan.
05:58:10 Piecewise: Your mother-in-law is hungry
05:58:11 ER: aw heck
05:58:16 ER: it's a dropbear!
05:58:17 Piecewise: Your son is sick
05:58:30 Piecewise: Kick tree
05:58:37 Piecewise: receive bear.
05:59:24 Devastator: yes, that's useless but expensive armour.
06:01:27 ER: hmm
06:01:40 ER: so this is worse than what I have
06:01:49 Devastator: Yeah. It does have the lightning bonus.
06:01:53 ER: and if I buy it I'll be full up again
06:01:54 Devastator: but the stats are lower.
06:02:03 ER: but i've never had it before!
06:02:09 Devastator: Hah.
06:02:14 Devastator: you do get another weapon in the next dungeon.
06:04:11 ER: more? :V
06:04:33 Devastator: Have to leave and pay again, IIRC. ;-p
06:04:37 ER: come on, I'm a goku expy here, gimmie more fooooood!
06:05:57 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2dmfnSarDI
06:09:07 Devastator: It's okay, the extradimensional box is refrigerated.
06:09:17 Devastator: ..I still am amazed at how his inventory is a box he jumps inside.
06:09:21 Devastator: and nobody notices it.
06:10:55 Devastator: Did you go to Ayres Rock?
06:11:48 ER: hmm
06:11:54 ER: is this what NZ looks like?
06:12:01 Devastator: South island?
06:12:07 Devastator: it looks like the LoTR movies.
06:12:23 Devastator: except more sheep.
06:12:38 ER: and from that entire landmass
06:12:42 ER: we got a rock
06:12:49 Devastator: a magic rock.
06:12:56 Devastator: well, there's still Ayer's Rock in Oz.
06:13:36 ER: wait, I though only japan was all modern
06:13:43 Devastator: Heh.
06:14:23 Devastator: "long time ago."
06:15:22 ER: oh yeah
06:15:24 ER: knight
06:16:13 Devastator: hmm.
06:16:18 Devastator: don't you have medicine?
06:17:48 ER: dev
06:17:55 ER: does this actually do anything?
06:18:00 ER: the gi
06:19:29 Devastator: mmm
06:19:53 Devastator: Probably not really.
06:19:56 Devastator: something, but nothing that special.
06:22:39 ER: hmm, it is described as fever...
06:23:33 ER: bah!
06:23:44 Devastator: Heh.
06:23:48 Devastator: go get that ginseng, then.
06:26:48 ER: grumble
06:27:06 Devastator: you shove it in the unconscious persons' mouth!
06:27:10 Devastator: that's how medicine works, right?
06:29:54 ER: just stab him, ark
06:30:01 ER: probably fine to do that
06:30:05 Devastator: this guy isn't a monster.
06:30:12 Devastator: the villains got smart.
06:31:03 Devastator: uh oh.
06:31:18 Devastator: Crysta theme.
06:31:25 ER: >crysta music starts
06:31:29 ER: Dev: uh oh
06:31:42 Devastator: I love this theme.. but, you know.
06:32:53 Devastator: Hmm.
06:33:01 Devastator: What's wrong there.
06:33:03 Devastator: ?
06:34:47 Devastator: There's definately something abnormal with how Ark communicates with people.
06:35:06 ER: 20 cha, never learns social skills ;P
06:35:34 Devastator: It's like the thing between him and birds and plants and animals.
06:36:50 ER: I'm sure that skateboard dude will be very useful
06:37:05 Devastator: Care to bet?
06:37:16 ER: hopefully I didn't just kill him by telling him about the plot like you can kill Laurentius in DaS
06:37:40 Devastator: Well, considering Ark brought him into this world, I'd say that's okay for him to decide. ;-p
06:39:43 Devastator: These guards are worse than MGS.
06:40:12 ER: a lot like MG2, really
06:44:47 Devastator: hmm.
06:44:56 ER: a lot of work to save not! cute weaver
06:45:05 ER: can't the knight do this
06:45:07 Devastator: what makes you think this is not! weaver?
06:45:10 ER: and ark go home
06:45:31 ER: think her name is spelled different
06:45:39 ER: and the knight said princess
06:47:51 Devastator: want to know how to progress? This might take a bit.
06:49:52 ER: tell me
06:50:05 Devastator: run into that wall.
06:50:08 Devastator: maybe with the shoes.
06:50:52 Devastator: what's your use key?
06:51:07 ER: circle?
06:51:14 Devastator: try running and then hitting that.
06:51:48 ER: ah, triangle
06:51:56 Devastator: ok
06:51:59 Devastator: do that on that wall then.
06:52:35 ER: oh, it's "use item" for whatever reason
06:53:41 ER: yo
06:53:57 Devastator: yo indeed.
06:54:23 ER: hey, fuck you
06:54:51 ER: piss off actually
06:55:07 Devastator: and yes, fuck you meilin.
06:55:09 ER: I tried to tell your da that you're annoying but he didn't change
06:55:51 ER: yomi, where have you been
06:55:58 Devastator: in your box.
06:56:03 ER: and why do you still think you're relevant to the plot
06:56:15 Devastator: He's not really relevant, just there for a few scenes like this.
06:56:54 ER: hey look, it's jerk knight
06:57:46 ER: I want to kill so many people right now
06:57:56 ER: too bad akr only kills monsters
06:58:45 ER: STAB HIM IN THE NECK YO
07:00:06 ER: yo fyda
07:00:13 ER: maybe I'll remember your name now
07:00:15 Devastator: It's totally like Ark to be caught like that.
07:00:17 syv: This Diomaid game is alright.
07:00:30 ER: I figured it would be
07:00:37 ER: but gotta finish this first ;P
07:01:00 ER: "you knew it was dangerous here"
07:01:06 ER: "Yeah, that's why I came"
07:01:16 Devastator: You're about 2/3 of the way through.
07:03:00 Devastator: gotta get back to the east side.
07:03:03 Devastator: like Fyda said.
07:05:39 Devastator: gj there.
07:07:19 Devastator: go north.
07:08:09 Devastator: back in the water room
07:08:56 Devastator: yeah, can you get over there?
07:10:02 ER: no sir
07:10:08 Devastator: let me check exactly where it's supposed to trigger.
07:11:23 Devastator: goddamn it.
07:11:30 Devastator: I stopped you just before you got there.
07:11:37 Devastator: go back to the first jumping section and jump north.
07:11:43 Devastator: I'm sorry man.
07:12:29 ER: pfft, how did I miss that. :P
07:12:42 ER: pink!
07:12:44 ER: hair!
07:13:00 ER: okay, slightly confusing
07:13:22 ER: maybe ark has decided touse his awsome godlike powers to make himself hallucinate
07:13:43 Devastator: that's one possibility.
07:14:27 Devastator: books
07:14:36 ER: hey
07:15:26 ER: WEAVER
07:16:20 Devastator: Flex the nightmares away!
07:16:40 ER: give her a good talking to, fyda!
07:17:20 ER: *heroic music*
07:19:56 ER: <3
07:21:02 ER: so, so wrong
07:21:16 ER: like, tried to kill me multiple times wrong
07:21:32 ER: uh, where now?
07:21:52 Devastator: back to the entrance, up to the left side.
07:22:01 Devastator: not the right, where you are now, but the left.
07:23:07 Devastator: solve the puzzle.
07:25:00 Devastator: meilin gave you a hint here.
07:25:47 ER: yo
07:26:26 ER: hey look, asshole has an asshole lietmotif!
07:27:42 Devastator: yes he does.
07:27:56 ER: enough blather!
07:28:02 ER: draw your sword!
07:28:30 ER: love paladins
07:31:24 ER: hmm
07:31:37 Devastator: just go forward.
07:33:12 ER: go away yomi, you're not a real character
07:34:24 ER: sounds like I lost the stream
07:34:44 Devastator: yeah.
07:34:52 Devastator: it's ok. It's a whiel before the next big event.
07:35:07 Devastator: and you should be able to find the next plot point whenever you're ready.
07:46:33 ER: hey look
07:46:42 ER: two dead mountain goats in a cave
07:47:14 Devastator: mmm
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07:59:54 ER: hey
08:00:25 MidJag: lo
08:00:41 syv: hi
08:00:51 MidJag: I'm realziing I may have slightly fucked up my sleep schedule more then usual
08:04:16 Devastator: oops.
08:04:22 Devastator: well, you have a couple weeks before movies.
08:04:27 ER: welcome to the club~
08:06:37 ER: huh, quick download
08:14:09 ER: oh god, darkness level
08:16:18 ER: oh cool, I just reverted past... everything I did today
08:19:42 MidJag: what game is this ER?
08:20:11 Devastator: ..did you load back in terranigma?
08:20:18 Devastator: I thought you'd been saving.
08:20:25 ER: I pressed F1
08:20:56 Devastator: ouch.
08:21:06 Devastator: ..ouch.
08:21:12 ER: eh, I can probably do it fast enough
08:21:14 Devastator: does it autosave?
08:21:22 Devastator: and yeah, you can do most of that pretty quick knowing where to go.
08:22:48 ER: and with vigorous pressing of tab to get past cutscenes I just saw :V
08:23:38 ER: https://youtu.be/m1nRuWqW09Q
08:24:57 ER: alternatively https://youtu.be/Fzje-8_zIDs
08:26:14 syv: How does one come up with "knife-throwing maid who controls time and hunts vampires"?
08:26:23 MidJag: A lot of acid.
08:26:28 syv: Dartboard?
08:27:31 Devastator: what's weird about that?
08:27:45 ER: just grab cool shit and throw it together until you have a character design, make her throw an absurd amount of projectiles at the character, repeat but with more projectiles this time
08:27:56 ER: *player
08:28:20 syv: It's just very senseless and random.
08:28:29 MidJag: I like my acid idea.
08:29:29 ER: well, I mean that is pretty much dio in a maid uniform
08:30:12 MidJag: Jojo has the best and stupidest vamps I've ever seen
08:30:26 syv: I was not aware Jojo had vampires or knife throwing.
08:30:30 MidJag: They shoot goddamn lasers from their eyes
08:30:33 syv: Though knives don't surprise me.
08:30:41 ER: jojo has everything, I'm pretty sure
08:31:00 syv: Well, at least they're not blessed lasers. Goddamn ones at least seem on point for vampires.
08:31:09 MidJag: I'm not even kidding. They can freeze people by sublimating their own blood or something like that.
08:31:33 MidJag: Speaking of vamps with blessed weapons, did we ever finish overlord>?
08:31:46 MidJag: Also what show did we watch that was like overlord but wasnt?
08:32:02 ER: as I understand it, jojo's setting is pretty much a minimallist RTD~
08:32:07 Devastator: uhh...
08:32:11 Devastator: I think we did finish overlord.
08:32:18 Devastator: the ending was time stop and then stab, IIRC.
08:32:21 ER: there might be more of it now
08:32:24 MidJag: Did we?
08:32:32 Devastator: I don't know if everyone did.
08:32:37 syv: We finished Overlord.
08:32:41 MidJag: huh.
08:32:42 ER: yeah
08:33:31 syv: I believe the last bit had Ainz summon several of Shub-Niggurath's goatkids to stomp on an army.
08:33:37 syv: Then he had a duel with some idiot.
08:33:38 Devastator: Yeah.
08:33:45 MidJag: Hmmm
08:33:47 Devastator: eh, that idiot would have died then or died later.
08:34:07 Devastator: he got to inspire his higher-capped buddies to improve with that death.
08:34:07 MidJag: Wait, is this the idiot who's like the religious dick?
08:34:24 syv: I think it might've been the kid?
08:34:47 Devastator: Nah, the kid was ok.
08:35:10 Devastator: Brain was ok.
08:35:25 MidJag: I barely rember any of the series outside of the fight with the vamp.
08:35:31 MidJag: She had a cool armor set.
08:35:49 Devastator: It was the other guy, the master knight.
08:35:58 MidJag: oh that dude
08:36:01 Devastator: brickjaw brown hair.
08:36:05 MidJag: This does sound familiar now
08:37:35 Devastator: I'd love to see one of those shows where the superpowered hero ends up losing due to long-term mistakes made. Not right away, but like years later.
08:37:57 MidJag: I though that was what the plot of overlord was supposed to be.
08:37:58 ER: guess you'll just have to write it yourself~
08:38:11 MidJag: Like eventually he'll lose.
08:38:22 Devastator: Yeah, that's what I thought.
08:38:29 ER: who knows where that plot is supposed to go
08:38:34 Devastator: I skimmed through the LNs and there were pieces of that, but not enough of them.
08:38:47 MidJag: Granted I'll probably be a doctor by the time that things plot resolves.
08:38:57 ER: more like "oh shit this is popular, quick think og more plot to add on"
08:39:30 Devastator: heh.
08:39:49 Devastator: nah, don't want to watch it going forward. There's like one or two moments that seem interesting, but not much other than that.
08:40:38 MidJag: I'm not disagreeing, legitmetlly just couldn't rember if we ever finished it.
08:40:49 Devastator: heh.
08:41:11 Devastator: The best wild card is yandere princess, who secretly signs up with team evil.
08:41:31 Devastator: and can probably get all sorts of funky powers, which could lead to a turn when the kid makes her turn again.
08:41:34 MidJag: Oh right her.3
08:41:47 MidJag: Man this keyboard get's worse and worse
08:45:02 syv: I'd be willing to watch more Overlord, mostly because I like the character designs and fights.
08:45:13 syv: The plot is utterly forgettable, but cool stuff happens.
08:45:23 ER: more orgelord!
08:45:33 Devastator: Yeah.
08:45:36 ER: fights!
08:45:38 Devastator: I don't think more overlord exists, though.
08:45:46 syv: Not yet.
08:45:47 Devastator: that vamp fight was good.
08:45:53 Devastator: as did the catgirl fight.
08:45:53 syv: It's pretty popular, so more will eventually.
08:46:22 Devastator: and yes, she's explicitly described as being extremely similar to a catgirl in the LNs.
08:46:28 Devastator: ;-p
08:46:46 ER: https://youtu.be/LS6paQA-5ik
08:46:48 ER: sword
08:47:14 ER: jazzy tunes to swordfight to
08:50:53 Devastator: Why can't I remember knight-man's name?
08:51:10 ER: it's boring.
08:51:13 ER: he's boring.
08:53:58 Devastator: Gazef.
08:54:00 Devastator: that's it.
08:55:01 syv: Gazef Stroganoff.
08:57:39 ER: https://youtu.be/uQ1YJMvSKP8
08:58:01 MidJag: Alright, I'm going to bed.
08:58:02 MidJag: Night
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08:59:36 Devastator: mmm.
08:59:44 Devastator: good name, though.
08:59:47 Devastator: he's a slab of beef.
09:02:26 Devastator: mmm.
09:02:42 Devastator: The term used in the book is 'spirit-related magical rituals'
09:03:05 Devastator: 'magical spirit rituals' are.. well, that's it.
09:03:12 Devastator: but 'spirit magic rituals' is something else.
09:05:13 ER: hmm
09:05:30 ER: I feel confused for whatever rea- ho yeah, I'm just tired
09:05:48 ER: I forget that that changes how my brain works, depite that being obvious
09:06:25 Devastator: brain unglaus.
09:06:53 ER: large head. must be lots of brains.
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09:08:20 Devastator: well, you get the dust ritual.
09:24:34 Devastator: and let me tell you, that's a really useful thing you have there.
09:27:29 syv: Sh?
09:28:36 Devastator: yeah.
09:28:52 Devastator: it's insanely fun if you're a mischevious earth spirit and you want to fuck up someone's in-progress ritual.
09:31:16 syv: ...are we a mischevious earth spirit?
09:32:21 Devastator: no, but you suspect that one might have written this book.
09:35:10 Devastator: it's still useful, either as a component or for instance, triggering or disarming other magic stuff.
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