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01:43:22 Elastic_Ridicule: is that unusual?
02:11:51 Devastator: RGU has been gone since his last post in PS.
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04:41:02 syv: Following the actions in Sh is unpleasant. I keep wanting to yell at people for suggesting dumb things, except they're already done.
04:45:18 er: I find myself not really caring what we do in Sh
04:49:57 syv: Yeah, it's rather lacking in terms of hooks and motivation.
04:56:03 er: Suggestion games are weird to me.
04:58:40 er: What do you think of Fork? Despite me uh, not getting to the plot hook yet.
04:59:06 syv: I like Fork, it's a really cool mechanic.
04:59:20 Devastator: sorry for not having that much interesting in Sh.
04:59:41 syv: It's cool enough that I'd steal it for PS, if only PS wasn't A) old and entrenched, and B) undead.
05:00:42 syv:
Dev, I'll ask this now since you're here. How much time would have to be spent at the dojo to gain a +1 to combat?
05:01:00 Devastator: about two sessions.
05:01:15 Devastator: Yeah, not that long.
05:01:26 Devastator: mind you, that moves you to 0/+1
05:01:58 syv: Yes, yes, I always mind the invisible unstated mechanics carefully.
05:02:22 er: Oh yeah, so I'll have to start a road trip at about 0600 next Saturday
05:02:38 Devastator: About another two weeks.
05:02:42 Devastator: that is, two sessions.
05:02:51 Devastator: you can do extra practice but it's less effective.
05:03:23 syv: So early Friday for the movie.
05:04:24 syv:
Dev, would the +1/+1 apply only to unarmed combat?
05:04:44 Devastator: any further points would.
05:05:01 syv: How long would it take to get further points?
05:05:14 Devastator: about twice as long.
05:05:42 Devastator: this place caps at +1/+2, btw.
05:06:05 er: Probably worth sticking with what we've got to +1+1
05:06:28 er: And then going on thrilling adventures, presumably.
05:06:46 syv: Is our in-game time valuable, in your opinion?
05:07:08 syv: Like, is it advantageous to achieve something in two weeks rather than six weeks?
05:07:21 Devastator: Yeah, but there's lots of stuff you can do with those actions.
05:08:20 Devastator: you might want to do other stuff.
05:08:20 syv: Do you mean "Yeah, 'and' "?
05:08:32 Devastator: ..no, that's a usage for but.
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05:09:03 syv: Oh, you think I meant spamming dojo to get +1/+1 faster.
05:09:42 Devastator: there's diminishing returns, but two actions isn't running it into the ground.
05:09:54 syv: No, I'm considering whether or not to drop the job.
05:09:56 Devastator: I mean, I'm just rolling 1d12/2 and adding until you reach 7.
05:10:07 MidJag: So in terms of scheduling like I said if all else fails, I can do it, but like would prefer not.
05:10:14 syv: On one hand, the job uses 80% of our actions and pays crap.
05:11:08 syv: On the other hand, if 80% of our actions are mundane and gone through much faster than full actions, it's not using 100% of our time, beyond the risk of metagame threats growing stronger if left alone longer.
05:11:47 syv: I suspect that the latter isn't how it works, and we'll still get updates for "go to work", but it's something I'm considering.
05:12:38 syv:
ER is leaving on a road trip at pretty much the time the movie would end were we to stay up for it,
MJ.
05:12:47 syv: So we're prolly gonna do it early.
05:13:15 syv: I think I'm the only one that's uncomfortable for, so it's optimal anyway.
05:14:03 er: Make
syv uncomfortable == optimal, got it
05:14:05 MidJag: Have fun on your road trip
ER.
05:14:23 er: Most likely not, but thanks.
05:14:54 er: Going to Savanna for a day for a memorial service.
05:15:13 syv:
ER, my life is already suffering. Piling on a little more so that people with fine lives don't have to screw them is logical.
05:15:23 er: I don't tend to leave home for *fun* things :v
05:15:42 syv: Yes, if you did you would have visited me at some point. :v
05:16:39 MidJag: Ah, that does suck, Savanas really pretty at least. Very neat town.
05:23:08 Devastator: 7 AM GMT is minight my time,
syv.
05:23:15 Devastator: so
NJW can't move it up much.
05:25:02 er: Ugh. Windows refused to update by shutting down last time, only restart for some reason.
05:25:03 syv: You seem to drop off somewhere around 0300-0600 AM my time, which would be 0700-1100 GMT.
05:25:39 er: So I clicked "update and restart" and closed and put away my laptop
05:25:47 MidJag: 1 AM my time is 0700 GMT
05:25:50 syv: I mean, seems like we have to do early, not late, because of
ER and
MJ, but that's my logic.
05:25:56 er: Now I open it again and it's at 0%
05:26:16 MidJag: I know, just thought I would clarify.
05:26:26 syv:
ER, don't put the laptop to sleep when you tell it to update.
05:26:59 er: It's like windows demands that I look at it while it's updating
05:39:24 Devastator: well, Draggy's having fun.
05:39:31 Devastator: and could use orders in Cabal.
05:39:59 Devastator: "Spend it on a trinket, again.
05:40:19 Devastator: Just leave it at home.
05:40:51 Devastator: oh well, it'll be fine.
05:41:00 syv: I feel like that's inviting robbery.
05:41:42 Devastator: yeah, you'll be ok.
05:41:46 Devastator: it shouldn't happen again.
05:44:03 er: We both know that drama dice will remain drama dice
05:45:12 Devastator: and if you didn't have your money, you might have been in more trouble in the shop.
05:56:55 er: It's a huge list of topics and I don't think any of them are exactly "level up magic"
05:57:17 Devastator: Yeah, book is more specific than that.
06:14:19 Devastator: I see lots of disagreement in Sh.
06:14:24 Devastator: no idea what to go with.
06:16:54 Devastator: yes, for draggy. ;-p
06:17:31 er: If hot drinks help draggy, then I'm sure they can help Sh too.
06:17:42 syv: ZBridges is just an idiot.
06:17:43 Devastator: do note the character is as yet unnamed.
06:18:07 MidJag: should I give an actoin?
06:18:09 er: What is a human but a dragon with tragically soft scales and limited potential?
06:18:27 MidJag: One that can't fly either.
06:18:30 Devastator: if you want to be a dragon, you'll need a lot of magic.
06:18:59 MidJag: Yeah, why stop the apcoalpyse when we can make our own?
06:19:00 Devastator: Toaster made me write out how to do that when I was asking people for stuff to do to test out the flexability of the magic system.
06:20:20 Devastator: probably not the best solution to any problem.
06:20:28 Devastator: unless the problem is "I am not a dragon." ;-p
06:22:19 er: Expert for in the game where we're a dragon.
06:22:47 Devastator: body modification is just tough.
06:22:52 er: There the problem is "we're not a big enough dragon"
06:23:00 Devastator: and throwing fireballs is basically impossible.
06:23:39 er: Just pop our spirit out of this dumb body and into something better
06:24:29 Devastator: That's slightly more viable, but it's even riskier.
06:24:52 Devastator: Also, I really recommend you finding out what the spirits around you think about that first.
06:26:16 Devastator: and eh, I'm sure draggy can just eat someone and ask his magic organ to do the whole 'bigger' thing.
06:37:59 er: I wanted to play Terranigma, but windows says gargantuan update instead
06:39:09 syv: (
MidJag) should I give an actoin?
06:39:25 syv: Yeah, I feel like being a dick. Just post a +1 of my action, please.
06:39:48 syv: Don't need to win by being right when I can win by brigading.
06:40:28 er: It's basically his but better
06:41:48 MidJag: Hmm, it's been a while since I read this gimme a sec to skim through it.
06:42:34 MidJag: Wait, I thought we died.
06:42:46 MidJag: Is this a complete reset or a partial one?
06:43:16 MidJag: I thought we were just named Sh
06:44:19 MidJag: huh, so now we are a chinese courier girl stuck in groundhog day
06:44:43 Devastator: although courier was your second job in the first game.
06:45:15 syv: Why are we chinese, anyway?
06:45:56 MidJag: Did we refind that magic sword?
06:46:03 Devastator: Because the setting rolls were like 90+ on both local population and population of your group.
06:46:57 er: Unlike that other setting where there are like 30 of us surviving~
06:46:59 MidJag: We should make our mission to refind that swrod.
06:47:44 er: Why would we quest after something we've never encountered before?
06:47:51 MidJag: Because it's groundhog day
06:48:16 MidJag: And doing the exact same thing for the same result works out well for all involved, look at groundhog day, or PM3 :P
06:48:16 Devastator: have fun finding it, though.
06:49:20 syv: Hey
Dev, if I *had* finished the Mouse Imperium setting, would you maybe have run that instead of Sh 2 for the stopgap SG slot?
06:49:22 MidJag: Nature girl is an idiot
06:49:37 Devastator: I'd probably have run it instead of kaiju-com.
06:50:12 MidJag: Oh hey, we just hit in the head, let's talk to the people clearly trying to either murder or capture us.
06:50:35 syv: God damn it, I need to just fucking finish it then,
06:50:39 Devastator: That was NG saying "Tell me how to solve this encounter, so I don't need to think."
06:50:46 Devastator: no, I'd have never started kaiju-com.
06:51:39 syv: ...I don't mean "if I finished it on time". I mean "finished it far later than intended, but still before you started some other game".
06:52:03 Devastator: I'd have considered it, but I wanted to do Sh because I have my notes all ready.
06:52:42 er: Oh! Are we going to work on that setting again? :D
06:52:43 Devastator: I'd have to put together a bunch of notes for mousegame.
06:53:25 syv: Sometime after I've had enough sleep, and maybe updated PS.
06:53:27 er: The slots we have for mouse digger/warrior gods should be legions of angels
06:54:07 MidJag: hey, we didn't get shanghaid.
06:54:12 er: With some kind of suitably epic and Roman sounding title
06:54:33 syv: Why DO you guys like PS so much, anyway?
06:54:52 syv: It's good, but I don't think it's cooler than Katia Mans vs Mouse Imperium.
06:55:11 er: I'm invested in seeing what happens to Sophia at this point
06:55:17 syv: Or like half of
ER's game ideas.
06:56:21 er: Once Sophia is gibbed and gone, feel free to move on to stealing the good half of my ideas~
06:56:40 syv: Would you really be okay with me stealing Refine?
06:56:58 MidJag: huh, our mindpsirits don't play nice with shutting them up
06:57:07 Devastator: You can't get Shanghied, this is more like Wenchow's latitude.
06:57:30 Devastator: PS has your great writing with characters I want to see out.
06:57:39 Devastator: plus I know you'll kill them off if we fuck up badly enough.
06:58:02 Devastator: Plus nobody else is running anything like it.
06:58:34 syv: Hrm. I guess it is kinda an odd genre.
06:59:06 Devastator: Magical girl game where you're going to die?
06:59:10 Devastator: nobody else has that.
06:59:19 Devastator: plus the system is odd, too.
07:00:19 syv: I'll agree with that, the system is very purposefully designed. Been wanting to write up a postscript on why the system works the way it does, for years.
07:00:56 er: [01:56] (
syv) Would you really be okay with me stealing Refine?
07:02:21 Devastator: Do you think the spirits showed you that place for no reason?
07:03:46 er: I dunno, do you think I believe that?
07:04:28 Devastator: but 'niche knowledge'
07:06:04 er: It tells us what someone's set up inside a single building, maybe, provided we drew them right.
07:06:37 syv: I think it has a reason, but I don't think it's something to investigate immediately.
07:06:57 er: A small building of unknown purpose at unknown location, none of which we will necessarily learn from what the magic does
07:07:23 syv: I think gaining martial skill, some degree of power (funds/contacts), and some magical familiarity, are all higher priorities than investigating The Plot.
07:08:07 Devastator: Yeah, but why would having a non-spirit mage not be a route to power?
07:09:38 er: We have a book with spirit magic in it already, and not much free time to train both fighting and magic at once.
07:11:24 Devastator: cly the solution is to either study fighting magic or magic fighting.
07:12:07 er: You prestige class after multi clashing
dev :p
07:12:59 syv: Non-spirit mage is just less directly useful than spirit mage.
07:13:11 syv: And I'm in favor of pursuing contact with a spirit mage...
07:13:24 MidJag: I say we figure out how to make the spirits hit people for us.
07:13:32 syv: The dream is not clearly designed to guide us to a friendly mage teacher, if that's what you mean.
07:14:07 syv: I was figuring that it prolly was related to the guy eating the sun, and that reversing the sigils would just get us points towards sigildry.
07:14:25 Devastator: Many branches of magic use sigils.
07:14:52 Devastator: it's one of the reasons why it's so hard to throw fireballs.
07:15:00 Devastator: you can't write on fire.
07:15:45 Devastator: but.. yes, spirit magic is good.
07:15:48 Devastator: and you have a book.
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07:17:20 Devastator: so it's all good, realyl.
07:17:41 Elastic_Ridicule: yay, windows installed a feature update!
07:17:48 Elastic_Ridicule: I love windows features!
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07:27:23 Devastator: Nah, it's about a guy with a spear and a weaver with pink hair.
07:27:51 syv: Does Weaver bacon eggs dogs?
07:35:18 MidJag:
Dev, what did we do to the drama dice to make them hate us so?
07:35:54 ER: the drama dice don't hate us
07:36:00 Devastator: The drama dice are the drama dice.
07:36:04 ER: they just hate
dev, for not wanting drama~
07:40:37 MidJag: I legimetlly can't rember why the game is named Sh, it's chinese for something vaguely amusing but I can't rember what.
07:41:09 MidJag: That is vaguely amusing.
07:44:22 ER: what are we named in Sh,
Dev?
07:50:03 Devastator: Let me know when you want to know where to go next, I remember.
07:50:26 ER: a gif of this dancer would be a good avatar, I think~
07:51:06 Devastator: Hang on, don't have it open yet.
07:51:27 Devastator: Ahh, yes, the Quatloos.
07:51:44 Devastator: Ark staring into the player's soul is also good.
07:52:14 ER: guess that doesn't go above 5
07:57:04 Devastator: Why's Loire so small?
07:57:40 syv: Because unlike Pinnochio, Liars in this world shrink.
07:58:10 syv: Alternatively: Because lawyers are small people.
07:59:13 Devastator: did you give the tin material to the guy who catches anchovies?
08:03:41 Devastator: I think the gourmet is somewhere else.
08:04:44 Devastator: No, I don't know what happened to scotland.
08:10:02 Devastator: you visited the plane guy yet?
08:10:35 Devastator: I forget if he's here or in Freedom, but he's to the east in town, you can miss his house.
08:11:07 Devastator: yeah, that's his house.
08:11:10 Devastator: guess he's not alive yet.
08:12:28 Devastator: go head back to Linz, see if anything's changed. ;-p
08:14:32 ER: I found a luck potion, how lucky!
08:20:22 Devastator: "I am ark, and ALL BOTES ARE MINE TO COMMAND!"
08:22:45 Devastator: IIRC, the crystal guy is in Loire, but I might be wrong.
08:23:03 Devastator: "Sure take it, I'm generous."
08:23:24 Devastator: Ark, totally human people-interactions!
08:24:38 Devastator: it changed now, btw.
08:24:55 Devastator: apparently the bote triggered it.
08:26:01 ER: hey cactus, tell me what's up
08:26:12 Devastator: Yeah, bit of a downer.
08:30:38 MidJag: I say we keep doing the job
08:34:31 ER: we should keep it a while, to fufil our like, social obligation.
08:34:46 ER: and to fund training or whatever we want to do there
08:35:06 syv: I think I've said everything I think in thread.
08:35:08 MidJag: Also if we fight some assasin we can probably use that to our reputations advatnage
08:35:16 syv: I agree with
ER, basically.
08:35:32 syv: It's not something to feel married to, but right now, keep.
08:36:33 MidJag: Don't we need to spend actios on the job though?
08:38:38 Devastator: those are already deducted.
08:38:57 MidJag: How are we spending like 2 and a half actions then?
08:39:13 syv: We're spending three actions.
08:39:17 Devastator: extra turn due to good weather, and one more because I messed up.
08:39:29 syv: One is the one we get every week after job, one is bonus by luck, one is
Dev's mistake.
08:39:46 syv: Which really is also a bonus by luck, just one not intended by the system.
08:39:52 MidJag: I see, I didn't really read the most recent actions.
08:39:58 MidJag: Probably should do that.
08:40:28 syv: Also you suck at arbitrarily brigading my action in the game for me. ;P
08:40:51 MidJag: I'm more of a crusader than a brigader :P
08:42:24 MidJag: Deus vulae calidum bibit!
08:42:40 MidJag: I think that's an accurate translation been a long while since I took Latin.
08:46:45 MidJag: It was essentially Roman Latin, we didn't do any medival stuff. Really it was more like half a history class half a language class.
08:47:03 Devastator: what book topic,
MJ, in Sh.
08:47:06 MidJag: Part of why I liked it so much, I suck at lanauge in general.
08:47:22 ER: with any luck, we'll go for hot drinks with our mistake-action, then drama dice will make something interesting happen in relation to hot drinks
08:49:05 Devastator: right now there's only one vote for hot drinks with
syv's -1.
08:49:58 ER: just need to downvote all the other options competing with it, then
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09:04:00 ER: if your heart is broken, give it to me
09:05:44 ER: not sure I undertsand it, but I'll go with no
11:09:41 syv:
Dev has an opinion trapped inside him!
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