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01:00:00 IronyOwl: Oh hey, sorry was distracted
01:04:49 Devastator: take as long as you want.
01:06:28 IronyOwl: 9 Fortune/Glory isn't to recruit anyone, it's to more or less purchase a decently well known celebrity. The Idol in question will sign for free.
01:07:26 Devastator: I thought I needed the pile of fortune or glory to hire that specific person.
01:07:33 Devastator: still not sure when I'll have time to send someone to recruit that idol.
01:07:45 Devastator: although I think Creed might have to do it himself, too.
01:08:13 Devastator: yeah, he'll be busy giving a pep talk this turn.
01:08:26 Devastator: Would it be worth my time to have the reactor boost the hospital?
01:09:41 IronyOwl: Buildings can't be boosted without being designed to be boosted
01:09:53 IronyOwl: Whether it'd be worth it to design it to do that would depend on what you want out of it
01:11:06 IronyOwl: Buildings also need power to function, but at the moment you've got plenty
01:13:44 IronyOwl: Generally yes, though it depends on the mods
01:14:10 IronyOwl: 500-1000 extra cost is a decent assumption for something with a major effect
01:14:27 IronyOwl: Lesser functions might be considerably cheaper
01:14:43 Devastator: mmm, way too expensive then.
01:14:46 Devastator: the same to remodel it?
01:15:13 Devastator: and I was hoping to be able to boost that hospital because I can't afford healing.
01:15:57 IronyOwl: Yeah, generally same to remodel or build from scratch
01:16:20 Devastator: mmm, so 2000 to remodel, 2000 to build.
01:16:24 IronyOwl: I mean, same to build+remodel or just build, buildings are fairly modular
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01:16:44 Devastator: also, messaged you.
01:18:26 er: Did I inform you of the logs already?
01:18:47 IronyOwl: Hello
ER, you have not
01:21:17 er: Also I unwittingly joined a forum RPG which ended up with 16 players.
01:24:17 Devastator: also, was going to do k-com, but stuff happened.
01:24:24 Devastator: I'll try for tomorrow.
01:24:39 er: But one person has an anti-luck field around them and I of course made a character with barely controlled psychic powers who spontainiously gateways demons.
01:36:02 Devastator: Any terranigma tonight?
01:36:08 Devastator: I kinda want to see you against the next boss..
01:46:22 er: Probably can't Friday or Saturday night though; if I try to stream then please tell me to go to bed. ;p
01:51:11 er: Did the OP in idols not mention the concept of anti-assets like rivals or did I miss it?
01:53:30 IronyOwl: Did not mention it, apologies for the deception
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01:54:37 ER: I mean, fair enough interpretation of the rules.
01:55:02 ER: I'll need someone to lower into the shark pit anyways.
02:10:39 ER: "You *can* try to replace your own identity with two opposing forces, but it probably isn't going to turn out well."
02:14:16 Devastator: Just ask Harvey Dent.
02:22:16 Devastator: Whisperling's game, that?
02:22:36 Devastator: was actually considering trying something like that.
02:22:46 ER: Familiar's personalities bleed into your own.
02:23:04 ER: having one or a few weak ones is safe, but too many could be bad.
02:23:31 ER: Someone asked about having opposing personalities "cancel out"
02:23:53 IronyOwl: Now you're thinking with portals! Also no, they just get angrier.
02:24:56 Devastator: well, if Whisperling's on, ask him if he wants me to list the goals I'm working towards. ;-p
02:29:24 Devastator: mmm, this is tempting.
02:33:09 ER: eh, only problem with adventure games is their gameplay ;p
02:44:31 IronyOwl: Well that's pretty dark
02:45:03 Devastator: This game isn't all sunshine and happiness.
02:45:08 Devastator: no matter how good the music is.
02:45:20 ER: it is actually very little of those things!
02:45:55 IronyOwl: Oh this doctor is DEFINITELY evil
02:46:24 IronyOwl: Treats the poor for free, has a special medicine he's working on... definitely a demonic plague
02:46:26 ER: no trust for medical professionsal
02:47:27 IronyOwl: Is that ECONOMIC GROWTH POTENTIAL I see?
02:47:33 Devastator: This isn't a normal game.
02:52:16 ER: just gonna, uh, write that here
02:52:18 IronyOwl: What are the bulbs you were buying?
02:52:51 Devastator: you're not expected to buy every piece.
02:53:03 Devastator: should use one of those large ones from the main screen instead of in your box.
02:53:18 Devastator: you can equip them.
02:54:33 Devastator: I suppose it would be handier than walking through the taklaman desert to get back to asia, and then across the middle east to the game savanna in Africa, where you can tell a gull to carry you to Colorado.
02:55:10 ER: Ark does a lot of walking in this game.
02:55:27 Devastator: All in a days work for a hero protagonist.
02:55:37 Devastator: also all in a days work for whatever the hell kinda underworld deity he is.
02:55:45 ER: how much time is supposed to have passed besides the at least three years he was asleep? :P
02:56:14 Devastator: You don't want to think about that question.
02:56:44 ER: elle gon be dead of old age
02:57:00 ER: also they're making me pay for this now, what bullshit
02:57:14 Devastator: "If it wasn't for me, you wouldn't have land to stand on!"
02:57:51 ER: and you wouldn't have anything to eat, and you wouldn't be in a human body
02:58:33 Devastator: Ark must have trouble explaining these things to people.
02:58:44 ER: Ark, rolls into inn, eats all the food, leaves without paying
02:59:05 IronyOwl: Ah, adventurers. Good thing their vision is based on movement.
02:59:16 ER: all the plants and birds and mammals got it right away
02:59:41 ER: how lucky, I found a luck potion!
02:59:53 IronyOwl: But... that means you don't really need...
02:59:59 ER: I'd better drink it now, so that I become more lucky, so that I can find more luck potions
03:00:29 IronyOwl: Remember kids, the secret to high stats... is drugs!
03:02:46 ER: a gull can do it, but you're too dumb
03:02:55 IronyOwl: Sounds pretty standard
03:03:17 Devastator: ..how does he know about the other continent?
03:03:47 ER: he probably saw when they were being raised out of the lifeless sea. ;P
03:04:04 Devastator: Yeah, I think you do Eurasia before North America.
03:06:13 ER: Ark knows not of this advanced technology
03:06:26 Devastator: massage technology?
03:06:39 IronyOwl: Throwing a pot at her was worth a shot
03:07:25 ER: Ark has discovered a way of making money other than murdering monsters!
03:09:15 ER: I like how in these games you just smoothly walk into beds
03:09:53 ER: yeah, thought that was possible
03:10:21 IronyOwl: Oh, gaining a new trade?
03:10:37 ER: let's go stab some things though
03:10:54 Devastator: there's a whole castle full of stabs.
03:11:05 Devastator: Apparently Andalucia is hell.
03:15:50 IronyOwl: The walking skeleton, hollow armor, and cow-sized spiders were all pretty normal, but somebody cuuuuuuut the eyes out of a portraaaaaaaaait ooooooooooo
03:16:24 ER: Is Ark here for any particular reason?
03:16:41 IronyOwl: Not that I recall but I wasn't paying attention
03:16:55 IronyOwl: Well... supposedly the eyes were gemstones and that attracted thieves all of whom are now dead
03:17:03 IronyOwl: I forget if/how that interests you, though
03:17:25 ER: "Place were people disappear? I'd better go over there."
03:18:21 Devastator: you gotta find columbus.
03:19:03 ER: so that he can invent cross-contenental shipping, so that I can go back to the amaericas
03:19:22 ER: so that I can hopefully jump into a hole and go back home to my waifu
03:20:05 Devastator: I'm amused at the wrong-way blocking.
03:22:10 ER: yes, this is a map of spain
03:22:41 IronyOwl: Nice country. Whole thing paved? Sounds about right for Spain. More skeletons than I expected, but the travel brochures never tell the whole story.
03:23:18 ER: these maps are kind of legendarally unhelpful?
03:27:00 ER: dash attack having Iframes is good
03:27:33 ER: though there's no other dodge move and block doesn't work on everything
03:28:33 Devastator: There's i-frames in the jump-grind too, but not as many.
03:30:11 ER: this game really feels like a link to the past with JRPG trappings
03:30:36 Devastator: The plot is weirder.
03:35:26 Devastator: still gotta eat a large bulb fromt he main screen at some point.
03:35:29 IronyOwl: Ark is DEFINITELY an adventurer
03:35:37 Devastator: is that even a question?
03:36:01 ER: I see that Ark has something in common with 1-666
03:36:41 ER: did I type 1 instead of an i?
03:36:49 ER: am I becoming a troll or something?
03:40:18 ER: you are now on top of the tower
03:41:24 ER: wait, he barfs from the large bulb?
03:41:53 Devastator: I didn't find that out until the end boss.
03:43:57 ER: ...have I been here before?
03:46:01 IronyOwl: "WHEE! Ow." "WHEE! Ow."
03:51:39 Devastator: also wonder what the poem was in japanese.
03:54:48 IronyOwl: Wait... are you in Spain after all?
03:55:00 IronyOwl: I thought you were in Lietz which was adjacent to Spain
03:55:20 ER: I think every country is just tiny on the world map.
03:55:27 ER: because it's the entire damn earth
03:55:51 Devastator: there's one named map region you can't get to.
03:57:28 Devastator: that's more than 3.
03:58:53 Devastator: ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH?
03:59:25 Devastator: said that while you were waffling about the jump.
04:01:51 IronyOwl: Think I'm done for now, lemme know how your adventures through the only castle in Spain go
04:02:13 Devastator: and thanks for letting me know it's just the shitty dice again.
04:14:55 Devastator: want a hint on the last one?
04:15:13 Devastator: It's outside, in one of the towers that you used the key on.
04:21:48 ER: what, I didn't even have to remember?
04:23:37 Devastator: there are occasions where the game has mercy.
04:30:33 Devastator: gotta wait for the beginning.
04:30:38 Devastator: you're starting too soon.
04:31:59 Devastator: THIS is bloody mary.
04:32:47 Devastator: Hah, yeah, magirock works here.
04:35:43 Devastator: Yeah, it's much easier if you use magic.
04:36:02 Devastator: I think there's.. one more tough boss left.
04:36:08 Devastator: but that ones not as hard as her.
04:36:59 ER: if as bad as it gets is "use magic five times", then game easy
04:37:16 Devastator: the game's not really intended to be super challenging.
04:42:05 Devastator: NEVER SHALL I PAY TO SAVE!
04:43:52 Devastator: you sure that's the right girl?
04:43:56 Devastator: wasn't it the one with pigtails?
04:44:30 Devastator: GO RUN TO ANOTHER COUNTRY< ARK MY BOY
04:46:55 Devastator: it was inside a house.
04:47:05 ER: not litz, there are only these three houses
04:47:12 Devastator: well, it was inside somewhere.
04:47:19 Devastator: fortunately, it was on this half of the world.
04:47:46 Devastator: and check the inns too, IIRC.
04:48:02 ER: she was in the hospital here
04:48:27 ER: and she's not any more, so presumably they gave her the medicene :P
04:48:41 Devastator: that would make sense.
04:48:46 Devastator: but I'm sure someone else wants that.
04:48:57 Devastator: also, carrying around any minerals for that sculptor guy?
04:49:15 ER: I remember the girl is loire who talks about white wind being sick, which I why I went to her
04:50:07 Devastator: so where's White Wind?
04:55:07 Devastator looked up the place to go for progress.
04:57:22 ER: yeah, don't think there's much I can do about it
04:57:39 ER: it'll just bounce like that
04:57:39 Devastator: but you might want to ask me where to go for progress next if you're stuck.
04:57:55 Devastator: You gotta sleep in the inn in spain.
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04:58:56 Devastator: apparently they figured that you'd want to save post bossfight.
04:59:02 Devastator: You gotta sleep in the inn in spain.
04:59:07 Devastator: apparently they figured that you'd want to save post bossfight.
05:01:13 Elastic_Ridicule: that mighta worked if I'd slept in the other inn too, I think
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05:02:02 Devastator: botes still worse than gulls.
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05:03:24 ER: is there any particular reason she trusts Ark?
05:03:37 Devastator: princess or princess's escort?
05:04:03 Devastator: I suspect some of Ark's friend to all living things comes through to humans after all.
05:04:11 ER: did she give him this task because he looks like a protagonist?
05:04:28 MidJag: Uhh, I think it went well?
05:04:29 Devastator: also, he made the princess speak.
05:05:06 MidJag: Not entierlly sure, but I don't think I failed it, so that's always a good sign.
05:05:24 Devastator: Also, talked a witch with a zombie army into becoming friendly and sociable again.
05:05:38 Devastator: There's something going on with human reactions to Ark.
05:05:52 Devastator: and you'd love that.
05:05:53 MidJag: The dead are sociable apparently.
05:06:01 Devastator: just watching more Terranigma.
05:06:26 Devastator: Guess what her proper name is, btw?
05:07:18 ER: yeah, that would make sense?
05:07:28 ER: that's what they keep saying her name is?
05:07:49 Devastator: but she doesn't have purple hair.
05:08:45 ER: because ark slept for 10000 years while the humans are groggily waking up
05:11:43 Devastator: "I ordered a queen-sized, not a double cabin! Dammit!"
05:13:55 Devastator: come to think of it, there was a ship sequence in Illusion of Gaia too.
05:14:13 Devastator: also featured ghost attacks.
05:18:24 Devastator: "I ain't fraid of no ghost"
05:19:20 Devastator: Also, gull travel features distinctly fewer ghost attacks.
05:19:31 Devastator: You know, I'm just assuming they would refuse to carry anyone other than Ark.
05:19:39 Devastator: Return of the bad sleep!
05:20:07 ER: I'm sure that a gull would be willing if you have it shinies and communicated your desire :P
05:20:28 Devastator: I don't know how to pronounce !!!!!!!!!!!!
05:20:42 ER: easy, you just say !!!!!!!!!!!!
05:22:03 ER: FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
05:24:29 Devastator: waifu with a kniafu.
05:25:04 ER: see, we could have skipped a lot of drama if we'd just stabbed the king ourself
05:25:49 Devastator: Told you someone would be ready to do it.
05:26:11 ER: yes, and I knew who from the moment you said that
05:26:26 Devastator: oh well, it was pretty obvious.
05:26:32 ER: and I thought he would kick the bucket eventually the moment someone called him a tyrant ;P
05:27:38 Devastator: Ark, crosses the ocean, stares at the docks.
05:28:32 ER: there should be mountains here inccurate game 0/10
05:33:29 Devastator: one man with a spear.
05:33:33 ER: remarkable standard selection
05:33:59 Devastator: Just kill everything with your cryspear. ;-p
05:36:03 Devastator: Got anything else to drink?
05:36:39 ER: it's either bourbon or maple syrup
05:37:04 Devastator: Isn't bourbon simply corn whiskey?
05:54:50 ER: "you have too much stuff with you"
05:55:27 Devastator: how goes your honker?
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06:00:10 Piecewise: Made myself a nice little Getter Robo 2 tonight
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06:06:04 Piecewise: Tomorrow is...cabal day ain't it?
06:07:34 Piecewise: I have the other two, just ain't built em
06:08:01 Devastator: oh, before attempting spirit-wrangling, buying willpower +3.
06:08:17 Piecewise: just make sure its on your turn
06:08:24 Devastator: it's written in there.
06:08:32 Devastator: lemme know what kinda anime eyes exist now. ;-p
06:08:34 Piecewise: I haven't started doing the turns or anything so you all have all night
06:09:04 Devastator: partly for the better odds, partly so spirit doesn't have 95 of my mana to play with should fail happen.
06:17:30 Devastator: I'd default to just having him help with the team, I'm not sure what he intends to do for the robot suit.
06:17:46 Devastator: also wanted to test if the mage armour works above or below regular armour.
06:21:43 Devastator: oh, also should include 'look for robot weapons in these more secure areas.'
06:22:37 Devastator: I'm also assuming that the wall frescos are too large to be moved.
06:22:50 Devastator: some of them might be movable if they're on wooden panels, say.
06:25:32 Devastator: and those might sell for a pretty penny.
06:25:46 Devastator: or be kept as decoration, even.
06:27:39 Devastator: I doubt it, though. Statuary is more likely to be removable.
06:27:53 Devastator: and most things are movable when you have a portable seige engine.
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06:45:32 ER: dammit, hole still not open. ;P
06:46:55 ER: yeah, was losing it too much
06:47:00 ER: can put it back if you like
06:48:36 Devastator: I'm happy to watch, but only if you're comfy.
06:51:39 ER: nighttime time with illuson girl
06:51:58 ER: I haven't been paying attention to the plot ;P
06:52:05 Devastator: You know the plot, really.
06:52:10 Devastator: this is the more freeform area of the game.
06:57:31 Devastator: penguins got da crysta theme.
06:58:32 Devastator: well, let me know if you're tired and want a tip where to look next.
06:58:38 Devastator: I think at this point you can mostly just move around for a while.
07:02:04 Devastator: birb based travel best travel.
07:04:09 Devastator: also, mouse you still can talk to.
07:06:48 Devastator: I don't believe you ever get one.
07:07:25 ER: mm, how behind is your stream?
07:07:40 ER: thought I had twitch on low latency, which is like nothing
07:08:50 Devastator: looks like I was wrong about the boat.
07:09:10 Devastator: It's been years since I've played through this, remember.
07:09:16 Devastator: fine game, but still years.
07:09:28 ER: either brave or unreasonably strong
07:10:09 Devastator: Resurrected the surface world, resurrected plants, birds, animals and human beings.
07:10:17 Devastator: he can deal with some monsters.
07:10:44 ER: I don't think is *brave* so much as too dumb to realize he might be in danger and too strong to ever be in danger.
07:11:13 Devastator: So more like Beethro?
07:11:17 Devastator: This is what he does?
07:12:01 Devastator: sure, it's a 25 floor dungeon with 400 rooms full of monsters? Just another job?
07:13:58 Devastator: Of course Ark can breath underwater.
07:15:01 Devastator: Also, you were all around the underworld.
07:15:07 Devastator: don't you know there wasn't another tower?
07:15:32 ER: splish splash splish splash
07:16:39 Devastator: I'm just wondering where this one came from.
07:20:02 ER: yeah, zap is the soluton to that fight :P
07:20:21 Devastator: it's simpler than that.
07:20:28 Devastator: the fish doesn't run away until you walk towards it.
07:20:42 Devastator: so just turn your back at the screenside and you can get a hit in.
07:23:26 ER: if my weapons and armor screens are filled up, does it actually prevent me from picking up more stuff?
07:23:51 Devastator: one of everything is a full screen.
07:23:56 Devastator: did you get a message?
07:24:35 ER: no, but both look pretty full now
07:24:43 Devastator: You're.. getting close to the end.
07:24:49 Devastator: I know there's at least one more armour.
07:24:51 ER: except for what I assume are reserved slots in the middle
07:24:59 Devastator: but it's a robe, so goes in one of the middle ones.
07:26:40 Devastator: at least it's understandable why the sailors didn't fight.
07:26:50 Devastator: they can't breathe underwater.
07:27:22 Devastator: I mean, you're controlling a character akin to a god of the underworld.
07:30:03 ER: okay, I can just go where ever?
07:30:15 ER: not even gonna start me off with the shallows
07:31:57 Devastator: There's a few places you can't go.
07:35:00 Devastator: invented the cat video.
07:35:22 Devastator: have you came here before?
07:36:09 ER: on the bird, but there was nothing here
07:37:49 Devastator: Ahh, ark, thousands of years of human culture, millions of years of geological and ecological history, and in all times and all places are you dressed funny.
07:38:32 ER: I think he's just like that
07:38:45 Devastator: That's a Japanese cop outfit.
07:38:53 Devastator: also, police officer just confided in random stranger.
07:39:02 Devastator: There's something about him.
07:41:25 Devastator: there are few situations where I would more like to keep the animal talking ability than that one.
07:41:48 ER: I dunno, ??????????? is pretty good
07:42:16 Devastator: also, a second trash can.
07:42:22 Devastator: I think there's something up with one of them.
07:49:24 ER: nah, I downloaded it on the internet
07:51:23 Devastator: working title for this game.
07:51:39 Devastator: and yeah, it's not bad.
07:52:27 ER: "programmer punguin k (fake name)"
07:53:56 ER: ENIX co? you mean SQUEENIX?
07:54:03 Devastator: They hadn't merged yet.
07:54:12 Devastator: Also, didn't eat Quintet at that time.
07:54:37 Devastator: It was Squaresoft and Enix.
07:55:37 Devastator: IIRC, this game was very close to the last independant production by Quintet.
07:57:28 Devastator: how much is shiny worth?
07:57:29 ER: this is a game with MULTIPLE eating contest minigames
07:57:38 ER: which work differently from each other
07:57:58 Devastator: moving food and drink around between different places is a common thing here.
07:58:42 ER: well, I don't see a good way to cheat using the emulator, so I'm gonna skip that rock
07:59:02 Devastator: Enix had Crono Trigger and this.
07:59:08 Devastator: Square had Final Fantasy and Secret of Mana.
07:59:32 Devastator: dangit, no, what was enix's flagship again..
08:00:37 Devastator: Dragon Quest, the three from Quintet, and a few others.
08:04:07 Devastator: and no, that wasn't the one I was thinking of.
08:05:52 Devastator: Yeah, there's four more.
08:06:39 Devastator: Actually, you got that one somewhat early.
08:06:48 ER: empirical proof that the world is actually a donut
08:06:52 Devastator: I think you might be able to find a few more, but you can't do all of them.
08:08:13 Devastator: You need the next place to go, or want to go aroudn some more?
08:08:32 Devastator: either here or at great lakes cave.
08:08:42 Devastator: I think it was here somewhere.
08:09:41 Devastator: ..get that guy's hamburger.
08:09:49 Devastator: he's supposed to give you one.
08:10:40 Devastator: "If her ship sank, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE HER RING?"
08:11:20 ER: it's a long story which involves killing monsters and ressurecting things
08:11:30 Devastator: "I'm the god of the underwolrld, Ark. Pleased to meet you."
08:12:48 Devastator: Why yes, I know that.
08:12:58 ER: okay, I had to breathe underwater to GET HERE
08:13:12 Devastator: Technically the mermaids just gave him an air bubble. ;-p
08:13:18 Devastator: one of them said that.
08:13:47 Devastator: now you can dive through those bubbles.
08:19:16 Devastator: lemme see what's in there.
08:19:21 Devastator: although it's probably a m-bulb.
08:19:35 ER: nah, he says too many m-bulbs then
08:19:44 ER: and I have more slots or items
08:19:47 Devastator: there's a weapon here called the geo staff.
08:20:37 Devastator: hmm, never filled up.
08:20:41 Devastator: well, learn something every day.
08:21:10 Devastator: nah, you spend more money.
08:21:19 ER: and play too much dark souls, which lets you carry an infinite load of junk ;P
08:21:23 Devastator: that one you dumped was the buyable one from crysta, right?
08:21:29 Devastator: It's a bad buy so I never get that one.
08:22:50 Devastator: thanks for the stream.
08:23:11 Devastator: I'll be around a bit longer, but need something else up.
08:24:11 ER: hmm, bone pin just takes you out of the dungeon
08:26:58 Devastator: also, thank whisperling for me. Tell him if he wants to see what rituals I'd do to get those results, to update for me more. ;-p
08:28:02 Devastator: thanks for talking earlier, all the same.
08:28:11 Devastator: I'll send him something like that myself.
08:38:30 ER: why is "girl makes bad descisions repeatedly" such a popular webcomic genre
08:39:09 ER: or is that just some weird reflection of myself in the things I choose to read
08:39:23 Devastator: because 'protag makes bad decisions' is basically all fun webcomics.
08:42:16 Devastator: Yeah, it's just 'protag does dumb but fun things'
08:42:23 Devastator: that's most interesting stories.
08:56:08 Devastator: I have a dumb idea.
10:13:25 ER: I would say that I feel like we shouldn't go straight for lethal, but bad feeling
10:13:40 ER: ...or maybe that is a good reason not to. hmm
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