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00:39:17 Elastic_Ridicule: who goes there
00:44:05 Devastator: I like the movie effects better.
00:45:25 Elastic_Ridicule: want to watch me play DS3?
00:45:51 Elastic_Ridicule: sadly cannot do mic, but you could watch me fail at the easy parts
00:45:59 Elastic_Ridicule is now known as ER
00:47:54 Devastator: writing up a ritual in Whisperling's game.
00:52:35 Piecewise: pause the ol' torrents
00:52:39 ER: hah, twitch never asked me for a phone number to stream
00:53:10 Piecewise: You gotta dial up bro
00:53:29 Piecewise: Just me and some other weirdo watching
00:54:07 Piecewise: Nice notification noises, ya neeeerd.
00:54:26 ER: aw yea, gimmie them dark magic levels
00:55:29 ER: I'm sure using those red eyes will go great for me, mister dorkwraith
00:56:25 Piecewise: Go get wrecked by a host and his 36 phantoms and 23 blues
00:56:57 Piecewise: and
er hates grayrat but is low on ammo
00:57:41 Piecewise:
ER likes his crossbow harassment characters
00:58:22 ER: also what's the point of the crossbow weaponart, sakurai pls
00:58:59 Piecewise: I think its intended to let you knock back people getting too close but
00:59:30 Piecewise: Its doesn't knock down and its got a super big wind up
01:00:14 Piecewise: They should FLEEE FLEEEEE
01:02:28 Piecewise: So, gonna get the butcher knife? It gives health regen per hit while the weapon art is active
01:04:01 Piecewise: Maybe if you got their hat and axe
01:04:06 Piecewise: you could git gud too
01:04:37 Piecewise: This speed run sucks
01:05:16 Piecewise: 4 pronged plow two handed strong attack full charge now
01:05:52 Piecewise: Full charge you dingus. Hold it
01:06:14 Piecewise: makes you do a different move
01:07:13 Piecewise: Hmm or is it the weapon art?
01:07:22 Piecewise: Must be the weapon art
01:08:09 Piecewise: There we are, spat charge
01:08:30 ER: consumes fp to fall over, nice
01:08:41 Piecewise: Just as memeazaki intended
01:08:43 ER: need to l2 then r2 during the charge
01:10:37 Piecewise: The partizan is a good weapon, if you like dex and spears
01:10:58 ER: this game makes me wish I had the rally mechanic
01:11:14 Piecewise: Well, the butcher knife is that
01:11:18 ER: because I keep losing small amounts of health and then stunlocking the enemy
01:11:21 Piecewise: you get health back with every hit
01:11:42 Piecewise: combine it with the evil eye ring and its pretty good hp regen
01:12:06 Piecewise: You startled that thrall
01:12:13 Piecewise: smacked an ax down behind him
01:13:14 ER: also up until I started playing today, I forgot to upgrade my estrus
01:13:25 ER: running around with 4 flasks like an eediot
01:13:55 Piecewise: You get the one above the shrine via the tree jump skip?
01:15:00 Piecewise: Evangelist best enemy
01:15:33 ER: they really sound like they're having fun, don't they
01:15:52 ER: I tried the tree skip a few times and gave up
01:17:15 Piecewise: Its too bad that archer guy isn't like Gough
01:17:27 Piecewise: when you aggro gough he does wrestling moves on you
01:18:13 ER: why do these little shits get super armor
01:18:44 Piecewise: Have you tried hitting harder?
01:19:13 Piecewise: I think clubs actually do break armor, staggering more easily
01:19:29 Piecewise: The mace is a great weapon. Weapon art and swing away
01:20:00 Piecewise: Made pvp character called "King Idiot" who just baited attacks and hyperarmored through with repeated blows
01:20:19 Piecewise: should I download ds3 here
ER?
01:20:29 Piecewise: You need a phantom to come pat your head?
01:21:28 Piecewise: GOt the shard by the burning tree right?
01:22:22 Piecewise: that burning tree with the evangelist and all the dudes after you drop down near the hanging body
01:23:35 ER: take that you filthy dex build
01:23:55 Piecewise: Ultra-greatclub when?
01:24:40 ER: I'm boning home for some damn bolts
01:25:29 Piecewise: just travel to this bonfire again
01:27:06 Piecewise: mace is pretty good, won't lie.
01:28:14 Piecewise: Nothing like just battering the shit out of someone
01:28:29 ER: oh yeah, perserverence, not rage
01:28:41 Piecewise: The better of the two, to my mind
01:29:08 ER: but rage gives you silly r2 animations! D:
01:30:01 Piecewise: Charging r2 while raging does a charging attack too
01:30:56 Piecewise: That club combo with the ultra great club is pretty good, not gonna lie
01:33:01 Piecewise: Any reason you're taking the long way instead of the bridge path?
01:34:05 Piecewise: For them, maybe just use weapon art and beat them down while ignoring their attacks
01:35:52 Piecewise: Quick step is pretty good
01:36:01 Piecewise: but that damage ain't
01:36:24 Piecewise: A staggering 4 whole damage
01:37:38 Piecewise: I dunno if that crossbow is really doing you many favors
01:41:16 Piecewise: You've played this before right?
01:41:27 Piecewise: Not gonna light that fire?
01:41:35 ER: I don't remember settlement very well
01:42:30 Piecewise: don't suppose you took young white branch as the starting item?
01:44:01 ER: I'd call it merely a good scythe, but what do I know
01:44:11 Piecewise: The scythe of a dex user
01:45:44 Piecewise: I wonder what kind of tree fighter you are
01:46:07 Piecewise: Are you the type to deal as much damage in first phase as possible? Or to struggle through after getting to second phase quickly
01:48:04 Piecewise: Caestus are fun. I like to wear one on my off hand sometimes. Because people think I'm gonna parry but I just deck them quickly and then hit them with the other weapon
01:48:41 Piecewise: should have persevered
01:49:16 ER: every souls player has cowardence in their heart
01:49:27 Piecewise: Gonna restart the stream for a second, getting a bit choppy
01:52:35 Piecewise: Gonna get that sweet hollow form
01:52:42 Piecewise: we don't need eyeballs where we're going!
02:04:00 ER: welcome to the mad king's sex dungeon!
02:07:04 ER: "you have better things to do than play DS3 multiplayer, I hope? Ahaha."
02:13:05 Piecewise: you level up that mace yet?
02:13:34 ER: don't want to use too much titanite on something I won't use forever
02:13:57 ER: I might do that in DS1 just because I'm more familiar with the, uh, titanite curce
02:15:05 Piecewise: Once you reach the swamp you can buy titanite shards so its not that big a deal
02:18:13 ER: "magic is stupid, but you can sell me clothes so fine."
02:21:17 Piecewise: His clothes are pretty sweet
02:21:40 Piecewise: wish you got like a cool deer skull helmet instead of a little crown though
02:24:22 Piecewise: Wish you could get their big saw and use it like they do. I guess you Kinda can, but not really
02:24:34 Piecewise: The pot would be a cool weapon too
02:31:43 Piecewise: Too bad getting stronger doesn't make you buffer, like it does in fable
02:32:41 Piecewise: Fists of the demon run?
02:32:57 ER: "that thing makes my skin crawl"
02:33:13 ER: yeah, it give me sekiro flashbacks too, ziegfard.
02:34:08 ER: *checks latest schlock mercenary*
02:34:38 Piecewise: are people stealing from me again?
02:35:32 Piecewise: I swear, I should have copy righted space marines.
02:39:38 Piecewise: is this a picture of you?
02:44:56 ER: oh no, now I gotta fight tree
02:45:14 ER: tree is still a little terrifying, ngl
02:46:49 Piecewise: You should try breaking as many of the pustules on his hands and feet before the one on the groin
02:47:05 Piecewise: Makes the second half of the fight easier since you never have to hit that white hand
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02:49:24 Piecewise: we're watching
ER fight a tree
02:49:53 syv: I'd love to join you, but I haven't played DaS 3 yet. Prolly never will.
02:50:24 syv: I still have more mods and challenge runs to do in DaS 1.
02:50:38 Piecewise: Just play it already
02:51:32 syv: For today, my free time is currently slated for "write about magical girls" and after that "write code to make randomized racing maps".
02:51:42 syv: So no DaS of any kind today. :(
02:53:32 syv: I kinda want to get into DaS modding, too. Make a mod that removes weapon upgrades from the game, say. Make them all scale off something else. Weapon upgrades in Soulsborne games just make me ):
02:54:52 syv: Maybe make a mod of the enemy randomizer that balances easier enemies towards the start, and hard ones towards the end, since that mod always makes the beginning super hard and the ending laughably trivial.
02:54:53 Piecewise: Just make them scale on a stat
02:54:58 ER: they make me :) because yay number go up
02:55:31 Piecewise: Replace every enemy with a Kiln Black knight
02:55:33 ER: remove the mechanic entirely, increase stat scaling?
02:55:36 Piecewise: turn it into a survival horror game
02:56:04 syv: Stat scaling might work, though I feel like it'd be a bit too heavy. Would screw balance, since 27 str is pretty easy to reach loooong before you're supposed to have a +15.
02:56:37 syv: Survival horror: True Darkness mod. Just need to add in some kind of resource management.
02:56:52 syv: ...The bleed mod would work fine for that, actually.
02:57:02 syv: Though that sounds painful.
02:57:03 Piecewise: Well, make it give diminishing returns
02:57:16 Piecewise: or make it so you feed boss souls to a weapon to make it stronger
02:57:50 syv: Feeding boss souls to weapons is even worse, those are scarcer than titanite. :P
02:58:07 syv: Maybe copy Sekiro and make all boss souls just multiply your AR permanently.
02:58:26 Piecewise: Well, them make it scale on stat, but the stat scaling depends on how many bosses are killed
02:58:26 syv: ...That'd probably work perfectly, actually. Hrm. Why's Sekiro gotta have good ideas?
02:58:37 ER: mod to reduce all RPG mechanics to sekiro's level
02:59:10 Devastator: god, that had shitty mechanics.
03:00:07 syv: Nah, combining Sekiro's AR buffs with levelups would allow very similar balance to base game, probably a bit harder in places, but hey. Challenge mods.
03:00:35 ER: harder because no more grinding to become overleveled :P
03:00:55 Piecewise: Did you see the Emma vs O'rin fight
sy?
03:01:23 syv: No, you could still overlevel. Stat scaling wouldn't change. It'd basically just mean you can't get +15 equivalent immediately upon unlocking +11.
03:01:40 syv: Was kinda disappointing, O'Rin is cheap.
03:01:54 Piecewise: no clipping everything, the cheat
03:02:14 Piecewise: I wonder how she'd fair against demon of hatred
03:02:14 syv: Did you see Fire Isshin vs Emma?
03:02:37 Piecewise: yeah you showed it to me. She wrecked him
03:03:17 syv: Now, Demon of Hatred vs Manus...
03:03:18 Piecewise: Demon is just plain too fucking strong
03:03:34 Piecewise: filling the arena with fire
03:03:55 syv: I think that'd still go to Demon, because multiple healthbars, but maybe. Manus has crazy DPS with black magic, which Demon just cannot match.
03:04:55 Devastator: Manus has big hit areas and ranged attacsk.
03:05:16 syv: His ranged is just crappier.
03:06:00 Devastator: how much health would he have for manus's combo scaling?
03:06:53 Piecewise: I dunno. They both have a stretchy arm slam but the demon can do it from like 500 feet
03:07:16 syv: Don't know how Sekiro's health numbers translate into DaS. I think everything in Sekiro is just way tankier. They at least have a larger offset between damage dealt and damage taken.
03:08:31 syv: Both their arm slams are relatively poor, DPS wise. Manus has black magic rain, which does multiple player health bars in damage per cast, and homes, which Demon just has nothing like. His strongest attack is the slide charge, which doesn't even oneshot a fully leveled player.
03:08:57 syv: Though black magic only comes out once he's 2/3rds dead, so it probably still wouldn't even the fight.
03:09:12 Piecewise: does the sharpen on that also give you health?
03:09:38 syv: I feel like Demon also spends a lot more time in recovery frames.
03:11:17 ER: yeah, sharpen on this only increase AR I think
03:12:06 syv: Thaaat's something I'd like to see. 5x Gyoubo Oniwa vs Demon of Hatred. Do some video editing too so each Gyoubo does his introduction in a different language.
03:13:31 Piecewise: Red hilted halberd has perseverance
03:13:52 Piecewise: Also, I want 5 gyoubos all overlapping each other
03:14:06 Piecewise: MY MY MY MY MY NAME NAME NAME NAME NAME IS IS IS IS IS
03:18:13 ER: why does this area sound like static?
03:20:58 Piecewise: Give her a touch eh?
03:21:42 ER: this guy is too much of an asshole to have a name similar to mine
03:22:19 Piecewise: I think its about right~
03:23:20 Piecewise: This is gonna go well
03:24:22 Piecewise: now go get that butcher knife!
03:27:05 ER: this giant axe is BLINGED OUT
03:27:12 Piecewise: its rage mode is pretty sillytoo
03:27:40 ER: welp, time for more stamina!
03:27:48 ER: can't even do the whole combo
03:28:05 Piecewise: did you get the stamina ring?
03:28:15 Piecewise: past the big demon, down the tower
03:29:58 Piecewise: get that sweet pyro armor
03:30:18 Piecewise: the female pyromancer armor in the swamp is very nice too
03:32:47 ER: I do look a bit silly don't I
03:33:40 Piecewise: go grab that pyro stuff from the swamp and see if its nice
03:35:39 Devastator: "Doom also has the ability to use touchscreen devices even though he wears metal gauntlets all the time."
03:36:07 Piecewise: He has those touch screen able gloves
03:36:25 Devastator: I suppose if anyone could do it, it'd be him.
03:36:53 ER: welp, time to fight demon of hatred!
03:37:56 Piecewise: in this world, its slap or get slapped
03:40:37 ER: ...that was 35 souls, why did I go after it
03:40:42 Piecewise: Really need to learn his moveset better
03:41:04 ER: hello hollowing my old freind
03:44:45 ER: ...isn't there a soul for that?
03:45:25 Piecewise: only the one in the catacombs
03:47:14 ER: that was a kill with failed stat requirements
03:49:44 ER: ...what's the lore for trees growing out of people in this game?
03:51:21 Piecewise: The curse that created the curse rotted tree spreading I suppose
03:54:33 syv: Hellphone: There's a soul for that!
03:54:49 ER: well that escalated quickly
03:54:53 Piecewise:
ER was almost very good
03:55:16 ER: would have lived if I cleared out the cages first
03:56:19 Piecewise: you could just run past them
03:56:22 Devastator: can I get a link to
ER's twitch? I'm ok now.
03:57:44 ER: I could run past them, but I forgot what I even get past these ones
03:58:10 Piecewise: Well there's flynn's ring, and then down the tower there's the green blossom ring
03:58:29 Piecewise: you're not even watching
03:58:33 syv: Running past is cheating, everything must die!
04:00:06 Devastator: what issue was it I had with this place?
04:00:11 Devastator: I remember it being a real pita.
04:00:39 Piecewise: dunno. Probably some self imposed issue
04:01:02 Piecewise: spike club and the evangelical clothing?
04:03:33 Devastator: I think you'd need a smaller weapon.
04:03:59 Piecewise: Flynn is for naked knife users
04:04:44 ER: give ring for naked greataxe users
04:05:36 Devastator: pfft, beethro was more naked, no helmet. ;-p
04:05:38 Piecewise: Does not grant attack power after 30 equipment weight.
04:05:38 Piecewise: Provides a maximum attack power increase of 15%.
04:05:38 Piecewise: Attack power is boosted by roughly 0.5% per full point of weight under 30.
04:06:11 syv: Huh, so they actually fixed it from DaS 2.
04:07:35 Piecewise: Go get the damn green ring
04:08:50 Piecewise: Just reduce the Dark souls window to less than full screen and keep the chat to the side to watch
04:09:58 Piecewise: Don't land on the platform on the side or nothing you absolute madman
04:10:25 ER: does fire clutch ring boost firebomb damage?
04:10:42 ER: also hey maybe I should go to bed eventually
04:11:57 Piecewise: according to the internet
04:18:14 ER: okay, killing that damn tree for sure this time~
04:20:25 Piecewise: just don't fuck it up
04:21:03 Piecewise: You should really hit the pustules on his leg and hand first
04:22:58 Devastator: that tree was a pain.
04:28:03 Piecewise: You didn't deserve it~
04:31:48 Piecewise: don't fail and die again
04:32:23 Piecewise: go in there again and die
04:38:09 Piecewise: Need to calm down a bit there lad
04:45:51 ER: I do have work in the morning
04:47:32 Piecewise: Should I download ds3 so I can phantom for you tomorrow?
04:51:06 Devastator: good luck next time.
04:51:38 ER: if you would enjoy it. I usually prefer to do it myself, really
04:58:31 Piecewise: I'll let you do it then
04:59:11 Devastator: so you summoned a fire elemental in Whisperling's game?
04:59:21 Devastator: not sure what you use to summon something.
05:00:01 ER: my wish is for a fromsoft souls game with a co-op mode seperate to and in addition to summons. So you could just play through the same game with someone else, having to share loot and stuff.
05:00:38 ER: need to symbolically give life to something inanimate.
05:00:48 Piecewise: I feel like there's a souls like game like that....
05:00:53 Piecewise: But I can't remember
05:01:21 Devastator: hrm, still not sure how to do that, but that makes sense.
05:01:37 ER: give it some of your blood, that's easiest.
05:02:39 Piecewise: Not a souls like, but it lets you create an npc companion
05:02:59 Piecewise: can even tweak their AI
05:03:05 ER: ...that's not multiplayer, you know.
05:03:13 Devastator: yeah, but multiplayer is shit. ;-p
05:03:22 Piecewise: you use other people's NPCS
05:04:30 Devastator: been busy injecting shit into myself, mostly.
05:06:54 ER: meanwhile, I'm having a nice meeting with a giant crow in a room filled to the brim with crows in a building generally swarmed with even more crows
05:07:09 Devastator: NPC crows or did a summon go wrong?
05:07:41 ER: I'm avoiding doing things which go wrong, at the moment.
05:08:17 Devastator: I've escaped the initial area and thinking about what to do next.
05:08:30 Devastator: thinking of joining a gang and seeing if there's an underground fighting scene.
05:09:37 syv: I wonder if you could mod PTDE to have full co-op. Would have to be pretty hackish, and maybe have the host drop loot for you, but I thiiink it'd be possible.
05:10:34 ER: though it might make it akward that there's literally only one halberd in the entire world
05:11:25 ER: yeah, but you're not allowed to disenchant it
05:12:03 syv: Guess there's really nothing preventing it for other Souls games either, you'd just have to accept getting banned with your friend. Which isn't even all that bad, if you both family share.
05:12:50 syv: Though from what I recall, 2 has *even more* weird area changes and special effects.
05:23:24 syv: Yeah, that'd actually be rather straightforward, at least in terms of what has to be done. Disable multiplayer fogwalls, make all multiplayer areas read as the Kiln (so they're tied to Gwyn being alive), disable autodisconnects from boss kills, and allow the summon to access the bonfire menu. I don't think there's any good way around death sending the summon back to their world, but you *could* make the summon link to the bonfire they touch in
05:25:53 syv: Mm, you'd still need to host to buy things, that way. Might want to hack in some way to transfer souls.
05:29:57 ER: fuck, now I want to keep playing DS3
05:31:32 ER: dark souls and food, if only life were so simple
05:35:28 Devastator: That is complicated.
05:43:00 Devastator: Far be it from me to stop you!
05:43:03 ER: what should happen in zeroth?
05:43:18 syv: We should find a stash of Sov guns
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05:46:37 MidJag: I sent you an action
syv.
05:49:39 MidJag: I've been better, I forgot to do some paperwork and am now going to have a very unpleasent weekned fixing it.
05:49:58 MidJag: Like I always fucking do.
05:52:53 Devastator: It's ok, I left my gloves at work.
05:53:40 Devastator: which is gonna be a pain.
05:56:26 Devastator: no, I have some mitts, but I'm annoyed.
05:56:50 MidJag: I always hate using mittens.
05:57:04 MidJag: Like plainly inferior gloves.
05:57:34 Devastator: they're better at keeping hands warm, though.
06:06:02 MidJag: True, I just can not stand not having fingers.
06:06:58 syv: Interestingly, this is also the solution to not standing *having* fingers.
06:07:27 Devastator: also the cause of not having fingers.
06:10:07 MidJag: It's a multipurpose solution
06:13:19 ER: lots of cool things I can think of doing which would probably be hard at -2 strength
06:14:38 Devastator: inject drugs into self.
06:19:16 ER:
MidJag, boldtext zorros pls
06:19:33 MidJag: Ah fuck forgot to tell
syv
06:20:06 syv: BTW, I've been rolling all these rolls with an actual die.
06:22:28 Devastator: I'll try to update k-com on sunday.
06:22:49 Devastator: will post asking for any bold text changes, but I should have enough to do a turn.
06:29:36 MidJag:
ER do you mind if I look at your turns now?
06:29:58 syv: One would expect an encounter between a giant burly and a naked catgirl to end on less of an anticlimax.
06:30:58 syv: You don't get to be salty after spending two turns being a pacifist.
06:31:28 syv: I would totally have let you get a DaS backstab if you tried for it, and rolled decent.
06:32:36 ER: bah, should have gone right for "roll for seduction"
06:33:42 syv: That probably would not have worked, because I don't feel like writing catgirl x Daneek erotica right now.
06:33:59 syv: Though I suppose that'd be pretty hilarious to post as a Catch-22 fanfic.
06:35:05 MidJag: aww, now I feel kinda bad,
ER you had me dead to rights.
06:36:50 ER: it's the rules, catgirls have to act smug and in control
06:37:00 syv: Well, you got supreme hell powers now.
06:37:09 syv: Just revive
ER as your Hell-concubine.
06:37:58 syv: "...So then I decided to write a crack ship about Satan!Daneek x Zombie!Felicia..."
06:45:26 ER: content warning: 3d animation
06:45:31 MidJag: oh I've seen those, they are pretty good
06:45:47 MidJag: I've always wondered if it inspired we happy few
06:50:21 ER: huh, that one makes it look much nicer than the first one in the series does.
06:51:12 Devastator is wistful for one that shows that the 'standard family' trappings are irrelevant..
06:51:31 ER: I guess it just depends on how accepting people are of their deaths?
06:52:41 Devastator: or not, for that matter.
06:52:55 ER: [KEEP OUT] "have a nice day!"
06:53:07 Devastator: could be all immortals and it'd be no different.
06:54:54 MidJag: Yeah, I didn't like that one as much as the last few
06:56:21 MidJag: Hmm, actually the making of video is kinda neat
06:58:46 syv: That video itself doesn't really show much of anything bad. Just that people's lives are extremely structured. It has somewhat negative implications--the robot checking in implies there's need for robots to check in--but the only "negative" thing that it shows there is people dying happy at a prearranged time.
06:59:46 Devastator: of course. It's not bad, it's perfect.
06:59:53 Devastator: but for some of us, that place has no place.
07:00:40 syv: That video alone... really doesn't show that, though. It only implies it.
07:06:46 Devastator: much like how a smoking gun is only circumstanstal.
07:08:19 syv: And it'd still feel really weird if a bunch of people saw a picture of a man holding a smoking gun, and exclaimed "Oh, what a brutal murder!"
07:09:41 Devastator: Yeah. I'd just like it to show how the point occurs regardless of the trappings.
07:10:32 MidJag: hmm, you ever read Brave new world
dev?
07:10:54 Devastator: heard about it. Will one day.
07:11:09 Devastator: only real heavy book I read this year was 1984
07:11:40 MidJag: Brave new world is essentially the equally distopian opposite of 1984.
07:11:52 syv: I remember arguing about it with
ER people, but I haven't read it either.
07:12:03 Devastator: trappings are irrelevant.
07:12:04 syv: Nor have I read 1984, which is sitting like six feet away from me.
07:12:24 MidJag: Brave New World is essenentialy like everyones drugged up and happy.
07:12:28 Devastator: it's an important book, but it'd be hard to describe as classically good.
07:12:57 MidJag: And then I'd have to type way more to properlly explain it.
07:13:23 syv: I've read a fair bit about it.
07:14:36 Devastator: It's a book I'd recommend everyone reads in school, although the one they made me read was "Grapes of Wrath."
07:14:49 Devastator: ..which is a perfectly good choice.
07:14:54 MidJag: I actually had to read brave new world in school.
07:14:57 syv: My stance on those books is kinda "Okay, I understand the point, and reading the book itself is both time consuming and not necessarily enjoyable, so why would I spend time on it instead of something I actually like?"
07:15:24 Devastator: because sometimes you need to make choices for yourself.
07:15:48 MidJag: I need to read grapes of wrath sometime.
07:15:56 syv: Such koan. So convince. wow.
07:15:58 Devastator: It hits pretty hard.
07:16:01 ER: Red described 1984 to me, good enough~
07:16:20 Devastator: describes a situation that is nobody's fault, but there's a huge variation in what people do about it.
07:16:42 syv: Haven't actually seen that vid, but I've seen enough of her vids on books and decided "Yep! Don't need to read that."
07:16:51 syv: OverlySarcasticProductions.
07:16:53 MidJag: Also, what's the one with Lenny and George?
07:17:10 Devastator: which is extremely short.
07:17:14 MidJag: Don't know how I forgot the name.
07:18:22 Devastator: reading grapes of wrath would probably help you guys understand me more. ;-p
07:18:26 MidJag: of mice and men is an odd book.
07:19:43 syv: Hey
Dev. Should I read Wise Man's Fear, or Grapes of Wrath?
07:20:03 Devastator: if you only ever read one book, Grapes of Wrath.
07:20:07 Devastator: if you're going to read more, WMF.
07:20:41 ER: more like... grapes of meh?
07:20:44 syv: Somewhere below "Play Dark Souls 3".
07:20:53 Devastator: above update PS? ;-p
07:21:02 syv: No, that's always at the top.
07:23:54 ER: can't co-op a book, now can you
07:24:10 Devastator: probably can, acutally.
07:26:10 syv: I've done something similar with some book-like things. Person A voices some characters, Person B voices other characters.
07:27:25 syv: Works best with games that have click-to-proceed dialogue that just shows one line and the char's head at a time.
07:28:07 MidJag: You could probably do something like that with books
07:29:11 Devastator: The hobbit was written for that.
07:31:09 MidJag: I bet watership down works well for it.
07:31:44 Devastator: Alice in Wonderland too.
07:31:54 MidJag: Since it's adapted from the stories the author would tell his kids.
07:31:55 Devastator: which is quite remarkable upon revisiting that as an adult.
07:32:12 syv: I've never tried it with a real book. I think it'd be more problematic, since there's no system keeping you in sync, and actual books have way more descriptive text.
07:32:55 syv: A lot of actual books also have issue with the speaking character not being obvious for the first couple words, a problem thag is completely invisible until you try to voice them.
07:32:59 MidJag: You'd just need two copies of the book, and one guy being the narrator.
07:33:27 syv: Then the narrator does the vast majority of the reading, which makes it less cooperative. Not unworkable, just less good.
07:34:35 ER: tell the dead authors of "classic" books to make VN adaptations
07:35:30 syv: Eh. Well written VNs still have lots of descriptive text, though the other flaws would be fixed by the necessary click-to-advance, I guess.
07:35:50 ER: tell them to make badly written VN adaptations
07:35:54 syv: Amusingly, I suppose mose VNs would be better, precisely because they're worse written and rely heavily on spoken dialogue.
07:36:16 syv: And I suppose this is one of the reasons why VNs are so often voiced.
07:36:30 syv: Too bad they're overwhelmingly romance.
07:40:00 MidJag: I can think of few rose genres~
07:42:45 syv: Porn probably works, though it's kinda cheating.
07:43:02 MidJag: I feel like porns cheating.
07:43:05 syv: I think cooperative reading of Mein Kampf would merely be boring, rather than inherently upsetting.
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07:49:44 MidJag: Hmm, I think I'm going to go to bed.
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10:24:10 syv: It aeems that I am sick. This is unfortunate.
10:59:08 syv: It's just discouraging to look back at things and go "yeah, I should have been here a year ago".
11:06:35 syv: PS. Updated the PM thread just before.
11:07:19 Devastator: well, it's been fun.
11:07:24 Devastator: and there's been other things.
11:08:28 syv: Up to date on Kazgame now/
11:09:25 Devastator: doubt there's a prize.
11:09:30 Devastator: this isn't my best field anyway.
11:09:41 Devastator: wouldn't win it if there was.
11:09:45 syv: It just hit me, when Vaermina mentioned the Sleipdeer killing 16 innocent tinselspiders, she meant the tinselspiders that were supposed to pull the sleigh.
11:10:13 Devastator: aren't there 8 reindeer?
11:10:15 syv: Not the rolly spiders that chase you. Which is obvious, really, but oh well.
11:10:38 syv: I forget the precise number, it was the number of nights. I'll check 8.
11:11:40 Devastator: but aren't the rolly spiders tinselspiders?
11:12:02 Devastator: and they're innocent because killing them was only possible after they couldn't hurt you?
11:12:02 syv: That's what I had thought, but it's not like they're ever specifically named.
11:13:44 syv: "in addition go killing eighteen innocent tinselspiders, I notice your dog has grown a horn capable of banishing daedra"
11:14:23 syv: It doesn't vary with *actual* kills, and Vaermina mentions initially that the sleigh was supposed to be pulled by a tinselspider.
11:16:25 Devastator: well, should be off soon.
11:16:28 Devastator: thanks for the chat.
11:16:29 syv: "Lady Vaermina denies culpability for that one. The sleigh was pulled by a festive tinselspider until this thing killed and replaced it."
11:16:58 syv: So yeah, one tinselspider per sleigh, the sleipbou is killing and replacing them, so it's killed 18 by night 18.
11:17:08 Devastator: Ahh, that makes sense.
11:18:07 syv: Follows that particular body plan, which is pretty dumb.
11:18:36 Devastator takes notes for saeko.
11:18:41 syv: ...Though, counting them in a screenshot, it only has six overall.
11:19:01 syv: Keith Thompson has a lot of dumb but cool designs you could take note on.
11:19:13 syv: Not really much *cute*, but lots of interesting stuff.
11:19:38 Devastator: hmm, that's good advice.
11:20:50 syv: I like how his Sleipnir design just holds the front two legs up like pedipalps.
11:23:15 Devastator: wonder if he just thought it looked too dumb with all the legs down.
11:23:34 Devastator: man, that boss is so much easier now that I know you don't have to double-press a key to run, and that you don't need to hit the eyes with the horns.
11:24:50 syv: Sleipnir just has a dumb design in general.
11:28:19 syv: ...The ones that chase you aren't even tinsel spiders. They're *mistletoe* spiders.
11:28:25 syv: How have I not noticed this?
11:28:27 Devastator: eh, was joking about sleipner anyway.
11:32:15 Devastator: unless I find 'multiple horse' or something like that.
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11:35:40 er: How long does a semi-feral teenager have to wander the streets before the proper authorities are notified? Find out next time on Pumsy's Seeds.
11:35:59 syv: Forever because I don't want to deal with it.
11:36:06 syv: Also note the lack of rolls.
11:36:38 er: Atlantis has shit social services.
11:37:28 syv: There was a group of slavers operating out of a fairly permanent base just outside of a major city.
11:37:50 syv: Yeah, something's wrong with this country, not too surprising.
11:38:04 Devastator: I'd probably estimate it being weeks, longer if you keep moving around neighborhoods.
11:38:11 Devastator: or could be forever.
11:39:30 er: Atlantis reminds me a lot of America in that way~
11:40:50 er: But with fewer guns and more jousting?
11:41:26 er: Well yeah, Acerima is *cold* D:
11:48:46 syv: Welp. Finished all the released Kazgame levels now, and they're in the cache too.
11:48:57 syv: Now just to hope Kaz won't delete my progress a third time.
11:51:13 er: If anyone asks for a map of the world I'll just link that.
11:53:02 syv: Hah, okay, that's pretty amusing.
11:53:53 syv: Slap another South America down in the Pacific somewhere, and I guess you'll have PS' setting. :P
11:58:55 er: Alien: "Why is every landmass on this planet the same shape with different sizes and rotations?"
11:59:21 er: Human: "What other shape would they be?"
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19:29:50 Devastator: remind me to summon a tiny bird minion too.
19:34:10 er: What ap you need a bird for.
19:36:07 Devastator: just something that can handle indoors.
19:50:49 Devastator: Hell, with an animate from ekrov, could make like a hand-sized metal bird that could tear apart basically anything.
19:54:25 Devastator: might be a waste, though.
19:58:41 er: Eh, couldn't bird+steel make a living metal bird on it's own?
19:59:16 er: ...autocorrect, there shouldn't be an apostrophe there actually
19:59:44 er: I know it looks like there should, phone, but it's not correct.
20:00:02 Devastator: I think it'd make a statue.
20:00:55 er: Hmm, pointy metal bird with a Speed enchant so that it can go boost mode?
20:01:19 er: But Bird makes living things.
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20:10:11 Devastator: wouldn't mind working on an update, but I really need to know where the thing is going.
20:11:06 Devastator: who gets that truck matters..
20:11:37 IronyOwl: Oh? Is there more at work here than just who's holding the hardware?
20:12:05 Devastator: that part matters, as does who fields it.
20:13:00 Devastator: yeah, need
PW to do that.
20:13:05 Devastator: or just test it in-game.
20:14:36 IronyOwl: you fool you'll summon the omnibird
20:15:07 er: The king of all crows is already watching.
20:15:39 Devastator: Right, you're looking at it in Whisperling, right?
20:16:37 er: No, I'm in the room with one of the princes.
20:16:51 er: But the king is always watching.
20:17:46 er: Apparently they could do a ceremony to make me a minor prince, but then the king would *always* see through my eyes.
20:18:45 er: And with that, I say later.
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21:17:18 IronyOwl: Watching
Dev shoot people with cannons~
21:19:37 IronyOwl: When do the catgirls happen,
ER?
21:20:22 IronyOwl: The Kaiju-Com ones, how many do you have
21:22:20 er: If you giv fles, I can get them started next research phase.
21:22:50 IronyOwl:
pw needs that fles :D
21:23:29 er: Then you have chosen death.
21:26:10 er: On related note, how are grimidol orders? :3
21:26:50 IronyOwl: You probably SHOULDN'T for various legal and ethical reasons, but oh well~
21:27:32 er: Ethics? I'm a cute catgirl, those don't apply to me.
21:29:07 er: For some reason (it's because she's really strong) I want to steal white armor's contract, but i think she might notice I'm totally evil.
21:30:50 er: Having actual idols would be nice, how do I do that.
21:31:28 er: I kinda got juggled by 2 and 1 rolls for the time period.
21:32:12 er: Wait, can I steal the ones
Dev rejects? Bet I could.
21:39:13 IronyOwl: you can indeed steal
Dev's rejects
21:39:36 IronyOwl: the "normal" way to get Idols is to build an Audition Center which will then slowly produce candidates
21:42:34 er: Ah yes, the normal way, which our idiot bosses were too stupid to think of.
21:44:07 IronyOwl: Welcome to working for the government! It will shock you to know they let 1/6th of the major colonies in the system get eaten before doing even this much. =D
21:44:56 er: Our lives are meaningless now
21:45:12 er: Well, everyone else's lives.
21:45:47 er: i-666 will get along fine watching the universe get devoured. Hilarious.
21:49:47 er: Classic, I can't really hear
dev's mumbling
21:53:03 IronyOwl: who's green guy again?
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21:55:27 IronyOwl: what are the options?
21:56:13 IronyOwl:
ER, what's your vote?
21:56:44 IronyOwl: I see him in here, he's an accomplice now!
21:58:26 IronyOwl: SE Asia, since Antarctica isn't an option and that's where my Kaiju base is
21:58:51 ER: I bet you can't even fight kaiju in this dumb game
21:59:28 IronyOwl: I doubt there's any alien abductions either
22:00:39 IronyOwl: Yeah, let's do Hong Kong
22:01:17 IronyOwl: it was hanging for a few seconds very rarely
22:02:35 ER: can't do "questionable", darn
22:03:56 IronyOwl: One destroys your cities, one destroys your hope~
22:04:19 ER: what if cutebae got bigg though
22:04:24 IronyOwl: We should rename them as either other people or dick jokes
22:05:32 IronyOwl: That's 7, it'll fit right?
22:06:14 ER: if only one started in the desert
22:06:43 IronyOwl: Catgirl, Boneman, Kaiju, and MadLad Airlines
22:06:47 IronyOwl: the world is in good hands!
22:07:08 IronyOwl: oh wow, it has an RGB slider
22:07:17 IronyOwl: way more advanced than I'd expect!
22:08:02 IronyOwl: Black pupils, but crimson irises
22:16:04 IronyOwl: Do more manufacturers emerge as the game progresses?
22:16:13 IronyOwl: Or do the current ones add more plane models?
22:18:45 IronyOwl: Why did everyone else buy a hotel somewhere on their first turns?
22:26:09 IronyOwl: Why bother with the DC6 at all?
22:35:13 IronyOwl: it's freezing up again, but the Batista regime was ousted in 1944
22:35:31 IronyOwl: it was back in until 1959
22:36:07 IronyOwl: 1940-1944, then US-backed from 1952-1959
22:37:03 IronyOwl: I think they kept the flag all the way through though
22:38:35 IronyOwl: Can you reach Havana yet?
22:44:35 IronyOwl: Boneman's getting shit on for having a regional monopoly
22:49:19 Devastator: I'll leave it paused.
22:49:34 IronyOwl: Actually looks pretty interesting, especially for an ancient console game?
22:50:14 Devastator: Yeah, it's way more solid than you'd expect.
22:50:21 Devastator: one of those things you wouldn't know about if nobody told you.
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