ERLOG 2020-01-15

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02:14:42 Devastator: hmm
02:14:50 Devastator: ♫ Lonely.
02:27:50 ER has joined #einsteinianroulette
02:28:45 Devastator: 'lo
02:29:02 Devastator: Whisperling gave me some updates.
02:29:06 Devastator: doin' spell now.
02:30:15 ER: https://youtu.be/_kTBbTSjZpI
02:30:40 ER: dunno why my brain decided to pick this stupid song, but I'll go with it for a second
02:32:39 Devastator: no idea if it'll work right.
02:33:00 ER: while we're on the topic of unnecesarrialy edgy antiheros
02:33:01 ER: PS when
02:35:11 ER: rituals tend to work from what I've seen
02:35:42 ER: provided you provide at least one or two ritualy components.
02:36:14 ER: what exactly it does might not be predictable, but if it looks like a ritual it tends to do *something*
02:36:43 Devastator: welp.
02:36:52 Devastator: PS someday.
02:37:01 Devastator: so.. something will happen, but it's unpredictable as to what?
02:37:10 Devastator: heard you summoned a bird that hates you.
02:37:14 ER: apocalypse now, PS eventually
02:37:31 ER: that's not what happened :P
02:38:23 ER: I wholesale *made* a fire spirit by sacrificing some life force from my blood and a living plant to a fire
02:38:46 ER: and I *found* some smartass birds following a rumor
02:38:56 ER: so far I haven't summoned anything.
02:39:13 Devastator: hmm.
02:39:19 Devastator: well, trying something risky.
02:39:30 Devastator: PW would approve because it involves injecting stuff into the self.
02:40:09 ER: just forming the elemental, doing some god-assisted haruspicy, undoing something a fae made, and making a link to the elemental
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02:41:17 Devastator: heruspicy?
02:41:21 Devastator: haruspicy.
02:41:26 Devastator: actual haruspicy?
02:41:28 ER: something like that
02:41:29 Devastator: Heya Irony.
02:41:31 IronyOwl: hey
02:41:36 Devastator: Wow, that'd be weird.
02:41:39 Devastator: sorry for the grumbling.
02:41:42 Devastator: was just annoyed.
02:41:47 IronyOwl: np, sorry I couldn't get on yesterday
02:42:08 IronyOwl: and you're right that the current game doesn't resemble the actual game except in shenanigans
02:42:21 ER: divination with a prayer to Odin using a glass pane as a focus, plus a makeshift shrine, with a haruspicy element.
02:43:02 ER: I ran into the guy who started the whole blood stained basement thing on the street and decided to try pickpocketing him. He rolled a one.
02:43:32 ER: What I got was a dead sparrow with wooden needles piercing its limbs, beak, and organs.
02:43:45 Devastator: Hah.
02:44:10 ER: so the divination was to find out what was up with that, and haruspicy was obvious.
02:44:19 Devastator: Actual haruspecy then.
02:45:49 ER: Irony, I disagree with dev's grumbling purely for the sake of being contrary, and I hope that future parts of the game involve sections of shenanigans like this.
02:46:31 IronyOwl: we'll see, mister dinner :D
02:47:28 Devastator: Shenanigans can be fun. I'm really grumbling because, by being agressive in trying to find idols, I'm less likely to get one of my choice..
02:48:51 ER: the whole event is basically like rolling for starting idols but with a marioparty-like chatoic minigame
02:49:08 IronyOwl: not enough hurling each other off cliffs for that
02:49:29 ER: like, running around with baskets trying to catch idols and dodge gangsters and peasants
02:50:40 ER: I'm honestly a little pissed that whatshisname is trying to murder white armor when she's demonstrobly hardy enough to be a useful idol
02:51:04 ER: ...might have a shoddy will save for a paladin, but just lookit that con!
02:52:03 Devastator: hmm.
02:52:12 IronyOwl: I'm a little pissed that people keep not quiiiiiiiite reading the turns, and thus trying to, for example, call back your mid-air goons
02:52:36 Devastator: Heh.
02:52:41 Devastator: that aaalways happens.
02:53:05 ER: me trying best! D:
02:53:30 Devastator: Thanks for slumming in the primitive sandbox, though, Irony.
02:54:02 IronyOwl: what, IRC?
02:56:10 Devastator: yeah
02:56:30 IronyOwl: still not sure why you prefer it to discord D:
02:57:53 Devastator: I can see more than 8 lines at once?
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02:59:03 Devastator: heya.
02:59:19 Devastator: plus discord slows me down enough I can't play surviv.io in another tab cleanly.
02:59:26 syv: heya.
02:59:29 IronyOwl: hrm, that'd be obnoxious yeah
02:59:51 ER: are you just constantly playing surviv, dev
03:01:32 ER: https://youtu.be/oQG1wf8k_8A
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03:01:38 Devastator: not all the time, but sometimes.
03:01:41 Devastator: heya.
03:01:43 MidJag: lo
03:01:45 Devastator: gang's all here.
03:01:47 Devastator: except dubs.
03:01:50 MidJag: indeed
03:02:05 ER: what are these little gremlins doing in my Dev window
03:02:15 syv: Oh, all four of you.
03:02:34 syv: Well that means there might be movement tonight. I updated Zeroth, need actions from all of you.
03:02:49 Devastator: yay.
03:02:49 MidJag: ER you should counter update Zertoh
03:03:01 syv: Yes.
03:03:03 ER: now, can't a man have a little creativity-killing depressive phase without people declaring his game dead, ffs
03:03:06 syv: But make a character firs5.
03:03:16 ER: can I have a recoilless rifle?
03:03:40 syv: No.
03:03:41 Devastator: skip me, busy yelling at happy to sell someone his truck.
03:03:51 MidJag: happy?
03:03:54 syv: But I'll stat an IWS2000 if you want it.
03:05:48 syv: Happery.
03:06:56 ER: don't call it zeroth though because like hell am I going to keep track of effective strength modified by armor
03:07:12 Devastator: happery.
03:07:52 MidJag: Cool, dunno who that is, but cool
03:08:05 Devastator: the guy with the flying death-ray truck.
03:08:30 MidJag: Ah
03:08:31 Devastator: although if whisperling is on right now, let him know I wanna know how my ritual goes. ;-p
03:08:43 Devastator: he's got like 3 people trying to buy it, and I really want that resolved before updating.
03:13:11 MidJag: I see
03:13:14 IronyOwl: of course the mad scientist is gumming everything up D:<
03:13:30 ER: we aughta just roll up and steal the thing~
03:15:02 syv: "This guy has one powerful combat vehicle. He's not using it." "We should send other combat vehicles to his base to steal it! He won't start using it *now*."
03:16:11 IronyOwl: man I am looking forward to that thing getting reverse engineered and ushering in a new age of combat effectiveness
03:16:43 IronyOwl: we've been kinda fumbling along with existing tech for far too long
03:17:15 syv: I suspecg that isn't actually how it works out.
03:17:31 MidJag: What game is this?
03:17:42 IronyOwl: Kaiju-Com again
03:17:54 syv: I think reversing engineering better things just plain costs more the more complex it is; it's only somewhat better than just making the design yourself. I think.
03:17:54 IronyOwl: what do you suspect is gonna happen, syv?
03:18:09 syv: We REALLY need more data. KCom has way too much complexity for its speed
03:18:22 IronyOwl: well, even then I assume a death ray will be better than at least some of what we currently have
03:18:41 IronyOwl: even if it is more costly and isn't THAT much better, it's still a fair investment and so hopefully a fair payoff
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03:19:24 syv: No, to the death ray bit. Fluff means very little. A mad science gun that has many turns invested in it, *that* means something.
03:19:27 MidJag: oh hey a dubs
03:19:37 syv: Hence why a prion launcher was extremely effective.
03:19:55 Devastator: you non mad scientists can totally make your own death rays and such.
03:20:07 MidJag: You have a gun that makes protiens misfold?
03:20:14 ER: *had*
03:20:17 syv: Had.
03:20:37 MidJag: What happened to it
03:20:54 syv: It was bodyslammed by a kaiju after melting the kaiju's legs.
03:21:14 IronyOwl: I regret not reverse engineering it first, but at the same time it was probably for the best
03:21:16 MidJag: That's quite the misfoldin.
03:21:38 syv: Yes. Hence, fluff matters not.
03:22:11 ER: you know, after some time playing them again
03:22:23 ER: I find that I still really don't care about mook and dig
03:22:35 MidJag: You should rebuild it and point it at it's head next time, that tends to be what kills you with prions :P
03:23:10 IronyOwl: how tragic ER
03:23:15 IronyOwl: what do you care about?
03:23:43 ER: Cabal, obviously
03:23:54 Devastator: I think it eat some acid, actually.
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03:25:30 MidJag: Prions are super weird actually, they're like the only infectious thing that reproduces and is just protiens.
03:26:19 Devastator: other than viruses.
03:26:36 MidJag: Nah, viruses have DNA or RNA in them.
03:26:46 MidJag: Prions are literally just weird protiens.
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03:28:37 syv: Yeah, a prion gun is completely idiotic. It worked like acid in KCom, because of mad science.
03:28:53 MidJag: Cool.
03:29:14 Devastator: Also because PW said it would melt flesh.
03:29:14 syv: Eh. Makes about as much sense as making a jet fighter faster by modifying it to flap its wings. Which also works.
03:29:55 MidJag: I mean it would sorta be cool as shit, you just shoot a kajiu with pure titers of a KAjiu protien and then sit back and watch as it's protiens degeneratively misfold.
03:30:05 Devastator: blooob.
03:30:05 syv: ...Hey, MJ? Would a prion that magically misfolds other proteins basically instantly effectively melt things? Or would it do something else?
03:30:07 Piecewise: Prion gun isn't idiotic. I could totally kill a kaiju, it would just take a long time
03:30:08 MidJag: ...Which you could sorta describe as melting honestlly
03:30:22 MidJag: What dubs said
03:30:25 syv: Fair point, Piecewise.
03:30:36 IronyOwl: I think the melting thing depends on how it misfolded them
03:30:38 Devastator: really, I'd expect it'd break down cell membranes, making it a bag of squish. At least if you want it battlefield effective.
03:30:43 Piecewise: People who get mad cow have their brains turned to swiss cheese
03:31:12 syv: I should say, a prion gun is idiotic as an infantry weapon meant to kill a monster larger than a carrier, that's currently charging at them.
03:31:17 ER: I mean, a weapon which is gauranteed to kill it eventually, if not during the battle, would still be effective at the level we're operating at.
03:31:22 MidJag: Yeah, I mean if it was instant, it would be pretty like metlting somethingl
03:31:46 MidJag: A melting thing that spreads agressivly through the rest of the creature until its gone
03:31:49 ER: One of them killed all of us, then got taken out by other forces, and one of them killed all of us and then pissed off
03:32:03 Piecewise: I mean, if they're organic and reasonably similar to our anatomy we could just pump them full of water and cause their cells to lyse via osmotic pressure
03:32:29 MidJag: On the other hand dubs if they're resonablly similar to our anaotmy how the fuck are they that big? :P
03:32:42 ER: darts which pump co2 into their blood, making them terrified
03:32:44 Devastator: space magic.
03:32:48 syv: For a very, very unusual meaning of "could".
03:33:09 Devastator: That one had a specific reason for buggering off.
03:33:40 ER: not the point
03:33:47 IronyOwl: but incredibly fasincating
03:33:51 IronyOwl: *fascinating
03:34:09 ER: if we could have hit it with a weapon that's a guaranteed kill, eventually, it would have died sometime after retreating
03:34:33 ER: so such weapons can be useful in certain situations
03:35:35 Piecewise: Hey dev
03:35:45 Piecewise: would a rod from god be a one hit kill weapon?
03:35:59 syv: The prion gun also didn't do that, though.
03:36:03 ER: fluff doesn't matter, PW
03:36:19 Piecewise: Tell that to Pricilla
03:36:25 syv: It seemed to work like other guns; when it fired, it dealt damage. When it was crushed, it stopped dealing damage.
03:36:26 Piecewise: >Pet fluffy tail
03:36:39 MidJag: Maybe the Kaiju can self amputate to prevent the spread?
03:36:40 Devastator: Prooobably not.
03:36:41 ER: it would be an OHKO weapon if it happened to deal enough damage to kill a kaiju in one hit, based mostly on how much time and resource you put into it
03:36:42 syv: It's "Touch fluffy tail" you normie.
03:37:09 Devastator: it'd hurt, though.
03:38:25 Piecewise: You would just touch the tail?
03:38:27 IronyOwl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyHPIcbn88
03:38:28 Piecewise: Not pet it?
03:38:30 Piecewise: Sad
03:39:28 ER: hmm
03:39:30 ER: mad.
03:39:41 syv: y
03:39:49 Piecewise: he's ER
03:39:54 Piecewise: He's always mad
03:40:03 Devastator: We're all mad here.
03:40:20 syv: Both wrong.
03:40:20 IronyOwl: do we really need someone to be mad all the time? we've already got dev and oz working on being grumpy
03:40:39 syv: Oz is banned from this place.
03:40:41 Devastator: No, you must be mad.
03:40:44 Devastator: or you wouldn't have come.
03:40:53 Devastator: Oz can be here. Syv just hates him with the fires of a thousand suns.
03:40:56 Piecewise: Oz is banned, thats why we have Dev
03:41:23 ER: I just borrow a few of syv's suns to hate oz with
03:41:38 Piecewise: Though when I come here, I follow a link through the ER wiki and get reminded how I will never live up to my past, so I'm more wistful than anything
03:41:55 Devastator: Pfft.
03:41:55 ER: cabal > ER
03:42:04 IronyOwl: well this sounds interesting, why dost thou hate oz?
03:42:07 Devastator: for me at least, ER wasn't the best thing you ever did.
03:42:32 Piecewise: You are a bit biased~
03:42:38 ER: I tried a couple times not to, and failed.
03:42:39 syv: Actually, Oz can't be here, while I'm here, because I can ban him.
03:42:39 Piecewise: I did keep you locked in a room for 2 years
03:42:53 Devastator: nah, you'd have let me out.
03:42:58 ER: Yeah, syv got himself mod powers
03:43:09 Devastator: but I didn't ask to be let out, because it would have meant nothing fun for anyone.
03:44:26 Devastator: yeah, probably best way to put it.
03:44:51 ER: hmm, why mad
03:44:55 ER: mad because bad?
03:45:08 ER: lets go with that
03:46:07 Piecewise: MAD BECAUSE ELVES
03:46:19 ER: no, elves are chill
03:46:30 ER: especially sexy ones
03:46:47 ER: hot chick elves, we could get used to that
03:48:44 ER: ah, turn
03:48:49 IronyOwl: indeed
03:48:51 IronyOwl: tasty bird
03:48:52 ER: madness gone, only joy
03:49:02 syv: https://pics.me.me/male-female-how-the-fuck-can-you-tell-png-383-kb-29683488.png
03:49:06 ER: unless I rolled another 1 or 2, then I'll still be mad
03:49:27 Devastator: elves.
03:49:45 Devastator: hrm.
03:50:13 Devastator: no madness only zuul.
03:50:23 Devastator: just chicken-dinnered by throwing a nade through two windows.
03:50:38 Devastator: "I'm safe behind the far wall of this building"
03:50:40 Devastator: "Whoops."
03:52:00 ER: Q is pretty bad at that subtlty thing
03:52:18 syv: >Constantly brags about badass things happening in the game.
03:52:27 syv: >Refuses to record or stream or anything.
03:52:37 Devastator: I can't stream and play the game at the same time.
03:52:43 IronyOwl: he streams weird shit sometimes
03:52:49 Devastator: and I've played it with you a bunch of times.
03:59:53 Devastator: fine.
03:59:56 Devastator: I'llt ry to stream it.
04:00:22 syv: No, no, I'm just teasing. And still kinda hoping you'll record.
04:00:31 syv: I don't have the internet to watch right now.
04:04:08 Devastator: trying.
04:04:28 Devastator: up
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04:09:14 ER: https://youtu.be/L00wacOr7ck
04:14:21 ER: hmmm
04:14:32 ER: why am I still in this channel, just to suffer?
04:14:43 ER: go to bed, dummy
04:16:29 MidJag: Sleep does sound nice.
04:16:51 MidJag: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2016/07/animals-platypus-evolution-science/
04:17:17 MidJag: Also apperently in a never ending example of weirdness, platipi use their bills to help find prey.
04:17:25 MidJag: Like a shark does.
04:19:05 Devastator: down.
04:19:11 Devastator: aww, nobody saw it.
04:19:22 Devastator: back to youtube.
04:19:24 Devastator: the lag is nasty.
04:19:38 Devastator: the first game was really, really weird though.
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04:20:42 Devastator: back.
04:20:44 Devastator: see any of it, irony?
04:20:51 IronyOwl: I did not, sorry D:
04:20:59 syv: I had not realized just how long ago monotremes diverged.
04:21:07 syv: Makes sense, though.
04:21:19 Devastator: aww.
04:21:40 IronyOwl: that's nothing, until recently I had no idea mammals and reptiles started as two nearly-identical lineages, both of which started doing weird shit at some point
04:21:51 MidJag: I fucking love biology
04:22:09 MidJag: It just does weird shit all the time.
04:22:17 Devastator: did it breed!
04:22:20 Devastator: did it breed?
04:22:22 Devastator: Good!
04:22:23 Devastator: keep it.
04:22:50 IronyOwl: early shit is the best
04:22:55 IronyOwl: trilateral symmetry
04:23:04 IronyOwl: and other weird shit that doesn't exist any more
04:23:48 Piecewise: anomalocaris
04:23:51 Piecewise: is cute
04:23:57 MidJag: I will admit to not having heard of trilateral symetrey, but I'm curious.
04:23:59 Devastator: welp, wisperling sent a turn back.
04:24:05 Devastator: ritual may have helped.
04:24:09 Devastator: may have hurt.
04:27:06 IronyOwl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilobozoa
04:28:18 MidJag: huh, that is werid as shit
04:33:28 syv: Puggles are horrifying.
04:34:01 MidJag: I dunno, they're kinda cute.
04:34:45 ER: why did people have horrible dogs
04:34:59 ER: wolf shaped dogs are fine
04:35:10 ER: and like, more sane
04:35:16 IronyOwl: I agree, but puggles don't look that bad
04:35:23 IronyOwl: plus some weird shapes are good
04:35:28 ER: had to google it. seen worse~
04:35:28 IronyOwl: or at least good in theory
04:35:38 IronyOwl: larger dogs are nice but tend to not live very long :(
04:35:47 IronyOwl: slim, noodly-style dogs are hilarious
04:36:03 IronyOwl: and people seem to like smaller hunting dogs well enough
04:36:18 Devastator: big dogs don't live very long?
04:36:38 Devastator: I mean, they aren't huge, but both my labs lived quite some time.
04:36:38 MidJag: I like mutts honestlly.
04:37:19 IronyOwl: I consider lab/husky size to be "normal"; a "large" dog for me is a great dane, st bernard, etc
04:38:12 Devastator: ahh
04:38:49 ER: yes, normal sized dogs good. where normal means wolf sized, because wolves which like me are nice
04:39:21 syv: Yeah, I was under the impression that standard-size dogs mostly have the best expectancy. Little tiny gremlin dogs, and giant monster dogs, both have worse, I thought.
04:40:10 MidJag: I'll admit, I've always wanted a Newfoundland dog at some point in my life.
04:40:46 IronyOwl: "wolves which like me are nice" is one of the truest and I assume most universal things
04:41:13 IronyOwl: Newfoundlands, on the other hand, are clearly very small bears
04:42:09 IronyOwl: wow they actually look kinda creepy
04:42:19 IronyOwl: I'd still ruthlessly snuggle one because YAY PUPPY, but still
04:42:43 Devastator: newfies are like super-nice dogs.
04:43:02 syv: "Life span 8–10 years"
04:43:05 syv: Aww. :(
04:43:46 IronyOwl: yeah see? :(
04:43:54 Devastator: They're like really good dogs.
04:45:44 syv: I googled "Newfoundland puppies", and honestly they kinda confuse me. Their proportions and size are all wrong.
04:46:12 syv: They do kinda look like bear cubs.
04:48:26 MidJag: Indeed
04:49:03 Devastator: cubbies.
04:49:12 ER: <3
04:50:27 Devastator: Heh, I like the 'dog next to undercoat' picture.
04:50:42 MidJag: I want to see this picture dev
04:52:08 IronyOwl: I'll be back!
04:52:09 Devastator: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Adamcoat.jpg
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04:52:18 MidJag: awwwww
04:52:28 MidJag: That is a fluffy dog
04:52:46 syv: There's no space for the actual dog under all that, how?
04:53:54 Devastator: Shelties are like that but even fluffier.
04:55:11 Devastator: http://youtu.be/4MT973Uyhj8
04:55:46 Devastator: but yeah, it's a dog for swimming in the ocean up north in fall.
04:57:16 MidJag: Yeah.
04:57:28 syv: I kinda parse that as "it's a dog for dying"?
04:57:45 Devastator: It does that just fine, syv.
04:57:52 Devastator: it's why all the fur.
04:58:16 MidJag: It's also a really good swimmer.
04:59:04 syv: That dog should be better trained.
04:59:13 syv: And yeah, I know.
04:59:40 syv: Just, swimming in northern oceans in fall broadly sounds like a bad idea. I get that it's bread for it, but...
05:00:16 Devastator: Cold can be just bracing or soemthing, syv.
05:00:27 Devastator: I mean, right now, atm, it's more like 'really fucking cold'
05:00:48 syv: You mean 50° F?
05:00:56 MidJag: What do you consider really fucking cold dev?
05:01:47 Devastator: well, right now, it's about -35 degrees.
05:02:13 MidJag: ...IIRC that's not to far away from where that lines up with farengheight.
05:02:14 Devastator: I mean, I can go out in it, and did earlier today, but it's still really fucking cold.
05:02:37 syv: -40 degrees is the same in both scales.
05:02:40 Devastator: drop it a few more, and it gets pretty close to 'no, don't go out in it.'
05:02:47 syv: But yeah, that's not "really fucking cold"
05:02:53 syv: That's just "fucking"
05:03:23 Piecewise: -40 is past the point where nerves feel cold
05:03:34 Piecewise: at that point they just register pain
05:03:54 Devastator: That does actually happen, PW. After a while, you sorta get used to it, and it's ok.
05:03:57 syv: Is this a true fact, or are you making a joke?
05:04:02 syv: Dubs?
05:04:04 Devastator: nah, seems true enough.
05:04:04 Piecewise: true fact
05:04:42 MidJag: I'll belive that. my labs -80 fridge just hurts if your hands in it too long.
05:07:44 MidJag: Also Dev, I'm curious, how many layers do you need for -35?
05:07:46 ER: why, kaz
05:07:58 Devastator: three, usually.
05:08:07 Devastator: long undies and pants are ok.
05:08:16 Devastator: wool socks and real winter boots are ok.
05:08:19 Devastator: three on the upper body.
05:08:50 MidJag: How long can you stay out in that?
05:08:53 Devastator: you then want a ski mask or a toque/scarf, and proper gloves.
05:08:59 Devastator: hours, if it's not windy.
05:09:06 Devastator: although it's uncomfortable.
05:09:19 Devastator: If it is windy, fuck.
05:09:53 Devastator: it helps a surprising amount if you're in the sun.
05:10:01 syv: When you say "pants", do you mean non-permeable pants?
05:10:11 Devastator: nah, pretty ordinary ones.
05:10:53 syv: Like, jeans?
05:11:09 Devastator: well, what I was wearing weren't denim, but they were basically cotton pants.
05:11:11 Devastator: so like denim.
05:11:29 Devastator: if I were skiing or something I'd have wanted those.
05:11:38 syv: I think your definition of ordinary pants, and my definition of ordinary pants, are very different.
05:13:00 Piecewise: have you considered a space suit?
05:13:04 Devastator: no, I suspect you just don't know how dry very cold snow is.
05:13:34 syv: No, I'm thinking of the air.
05:13:53 MidJag: I don't think syv knows what a humidity below 50% is.
05:13:56 syv: Even in a dead breeze, with "normal pants", I can feel the temperature of the air.
05:14:08 syv: Also, uh, he might have a point, I don't.
05:14:33 Devastator: yeah.
05:14:41 Devastator: humidity doesn't matter when it's this cold.
05:16:36 MidJag: Hell I'm from Alabama, I'm not sure I know what humdity below 50% is like.
05:18:48 syv: I also don't know what "this cold" is like. I've been in freezing temperatures before, but not without several layers of thick winter clothing.
05:18:57 MidJag: Yeah.
05:19:37 Devastator: you have to get below about -10 for humidity to not matter.
05:19:42 Devastator: -10 C.
05:19:59 syv: Yeaaah I don't think I've ever been in -10 C weather, in my entire life.
05:20:18 MidJag: Same.
05:20:41 MidJag: Hmm, well maybe once or twice when I was really young
05:21:29 syv: Right now, Dev, it sounds to me like you're trying to argue why "the air is so cold that it feels like it's made out of tiny knives" only justifies two-layer clothing.
05:21:44 Devastator: it kinda does, though.
05:21:56 Devastator: you have clothes, you have some air, you have long undies, you have more air.
05:21:57 syv: When, for me, 45 degrees above that temperature is two-layer weather.
05:21:58 ER: just wear good layers, scrub~
05:22:09 Devastator: and you can't get water through them because the snow is dry enough you can kneel in it and not get wet.
05:22:35 syv: Why doesn't the air go through your layers, though?
05:22:49 MidJag: Lack of movement of air?
05:22:53 Devastator: because there's cloth in the way and I'm wearing long undies.
05:23:00 Devastator: if it were windy I'd want an extra layer.
05:23:54 syv: Do you wear the same type of overclothing in 30 C weather?
05:24:07 Devastator: no.
05:24:10 Devastator: I have my coat off.
05:24:15 Devastator: but I could wear the same pants, yeah.
05:24:20 MidJag: ......
05:24:27 Devastator: just with no long undies.
05:24:31 MidJag: ........
05:25:00 syv: Do your undies contain vaccuum insulation?
05:25:10 Devastator: No, they're.. long undies.
05:25:19 syv: Understand, Dev.
05:25:25 syv: Long undies do not exist in Florida.
05:25:56 syv: So I'm kinda just trying to figure out how just the addition of undies turns 30 C clothing into -35 C clothing.
05:26:30 syv: Oh, you did say three for -35, okay.
05:26:39 syv: That's slightly less unbelievable.
05:26:48 Devastator: three on the upper body.
05:27:02 Devastator: but they're just thick cotton-poly underwear.
05:27:47 syv: Okay.
05:27:59 syv: So I think the verdict here is that goblins are not humans.
05:28:04 Devastator: https://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/is/images/direct/e6ffad51725f4515874db1b4899a46630cd132f3/2-Piece-Men%27s-Waffle-Knit-Thermal-Underwear-Set.jpg
05:28:16 ER: hot
05:28:17 Devastator: But I don't have a top, I just wear an undershirt.
05:29:07 MidJag scribbles, goblins-immune to cold? in his field notebook.
05:29:19 syv: Yeah.
05:29:39 Devastator: do note that this isn't 'comfortable in -35 clothing.'
05:29:53 Devastator: I'd replace one of the shirts with a heavier one and get some snow pants.
05:30:02 Devastator: this is 'comfortable in -30' clothing.
05:30:08 ER: ...why doe discord do the little red dot when someone I've blocked posts something?
05:30:11 syv: Bahahahaha
05:30:21 MidJag: hahahahahahaha
05:30:28 MidJag: Dev you aren't human.
05:30:30 syv: "This isn't -35 clothing, it's -30 clothing."
05:32:07 Devastator: because discord doesn't work for you?
05:32:11 syv: If I were to wear just those undies, under my normal pants, I'd shiver in <0 C temperatures. Which I know, because I *do* remember wearing stuff about that thick in snow temps.
05:32:22 Devastator: man.
05:32:28 Devastator: seriously.
05:33:05 Devastator: my brother had his aussie girlfriend up here for christmas, and she could handle it.
05:33:21 Devastator: admittedly it wasn't -35, but she hadn't seen snow in 15 years.
05:33:26 MidJag: She was probably just happy it wasn't on fire~
05:33:46 syv: It snows in australia, doesn't it?
05:34:10 Piecewise: thats drop bears
05:35:07 Devastator: not much, and not where she's from.
05:35:55 MidJag: Also something I didn't know. Australia is fucking huge. It's like a decent chunk of the US in terms of landmass.
05:37:12 syv: Mm. Well, I have to drive north for a day to reach places where it sometimes snows.
05:38:28 MidJag: I think Dev has to drive south for a day to find a place that isn't buried in snow.
05:38:42 Devastator: right now?
05:38:47 Devastator: ..yeah, probably.
05:38:50 MidJag: haha
05:38:53 syv: No, I think that underestimates how far he has to drive.
05:39:04 Devastator: They don't get much in Vancouver, syv.
05:39:23 MidJag: Okay, dev how much snowfall do you have right now?
05:39:24 Devastator: hrn, today it's buried.
05:39:26 Devastator: dammit.
05:39:36 Devastator: about three-four feet of snowpack.
05:40:00 syv: It's snowing in Vancouver right now.
05:40:22 syv: Apparently pretty heavy, at that.
05:40:31 Devastator: yeah, just checked.
05:40:36 MidJag: Vancouver looks really pretty honestly.
05:40:39 Devastator: so yeah, might be more than a day.
05:40:50 MidJag: I just pulled it up on google images.
05:40:53 Devastator: It's the part of mountain-land where people actually want to live. ;-p
05:41:09 ER: is florida more than a day from here?
05:41:25 ER: I remember stopping on the way to new orleans, so I guess so.
05:42:19 ER: clearly, squarely temperate is the superior climate
05:42:35 syv: The place my family would sometimes go for winter is currently at 5 C, no snow. And that's a... eleven hour drive?
05:42:39 ER: you three are all either fire goblins or ice goblins!
05:42:41 Devastator: about half the people in the province live in the little river valley delta area with Vancouver in it.
05:43:04 syv: Nah, Google puts it at nine.
05:43:11 Devastator: about half of what's left live on the big island off of it.
05:43:17 Devastator: I'm in the rest.
05:43:49 Devastator: so snowing hard in Vancouver?
05:44:54 syv: 1/2 mile visibilty, 900 feet vertical visibility, Blowing snow *and* moderate snow.
05:45:13 Devastator: yay, sno.
05:53:47 MidJag: Yay Dev if alabama ever got anywhere close to that cold I think half of the state would set the other half on fire to keep warm.
05:53:52 MidJag: ^yeah
05:56:03 Piecewise: Its amusing when we get snow round vegas way
05:56:09 Piecewise: and the entire city shuts down
05:56:19 Piecewise: in terror
05:56:22 MidJag: Heh, same with Alabama.
05:56:41 ER: stupid desert land
05:56:59 Piecewise: All the hookers are cold!
05:57:16 syv: Closest we've come to that here which I can recall was a time when the city issued warnings because it got down to 40 F.
05:57:47 syv: I don't think there were shutdowns, but IIRC the news was talking about blankets being passed out to homeless.
05:58:57 syv: If it actually snowed here, people would just be confused about why it's raining ineffectual cocaine.
05:59:29 Piecewise: Heh
05:59:45 MidJag: It's florida, they'd find a way to make it in effective cocaine....somehow.
06:01:26 Piecewise: The crocodiles are cold!
06:02:01 Devastator: heh.
06:02:29 ER: florida witchcraft
06:02:33 MidJag: heh
06:04:00 Piecewise: Its like the Brave Bear witch
06:04:22 Piecewise: except its a crackhead
06:04:26 Piecewise: and crocodiles
06:04:30 syv: You know, I think if global warming keeps going, maybe crocodiles *will* die out in florida. Population is already extremely small, and only in the southernmost parts, apparently because of climate.
06:04:44 MidJag: Aww
06:04:57 syv: Alligators, no, those are staying. Like hell you can get rid of them.
06:05:13 Piecewise: They'll be replaced by naturally occurring crackheads
06:12:50 Devastator: mmm.
06:28:45 ER: ooo
06:30:23 Devastator: naturally occuring.
06:30:28 Devastator: so do they have like, spawnpoints?
06:30:46 syv: Yeah.
06:33:19 Devastator: hrm, better watch out for when the minibosses spawn.
06:40:30 MidJag: Yes they form into one methed out crackhead.
06:40:55 ER: is there a crackhead taurus demon?
06:42:16 Piecewise: Nah
06:42:17 Devastator: taurus isn't a crackhead?
06:42:24 Piecewise: The Crackpra demon
06:42:26 Piecewise: you dingus
06:43:02 syv: oh god
06:43:31 syv: The horror of tiny, tiny rooms
06:44:15 syv: Like the ninja in Sekiro that you fight in a freaking closet.
06:44:26 Piecewise: That one was a heck of a fight
06:44:42 ER: huh, which one was that?
06:44:54 Piecewise: The ninja in the well where you start
06:44:59 syv: On all my NG+ playthroughs I just cheesed him. If you spam money shot, it stunlocks him.
06:45:12 ER: huh, that guy's not too bad
06:45:15 syv: Horrible horrible fight.
06:45:21 Piecewise: Honestly once you learn to deal with that enemy type, they're fine
06:45:31 Piecewise: its just the camera clipping into walls and such
06:46:02 Piecewise: I wish sekiro got some DLC
06:46:07 syv: Eh, yes, once you learn how to parry all the moves every enemy in Sekiro becomes pretty simple. But man he took longer than most all of the bosses to learn.
06:46:08 Piecewise: but it never will
06:46:14 ER: I wish I had a controller.
06:46:19 Piecewise: yes you do
06:46:30 syv: Oh, you still don't have one?
06:46:31 Piecewise: buy a controller you silly
06:46:59 ER: nope
06:47:18 Piecewise: You can get usb controllers for like...7 bucks
06:48:16 ER: and they break in a month
06:48:40 Piecewise: I've had a knock off for several years
06:48:48 Piecewise: are you playing with a hammer?
06:49:50 Piecewise: Here
06:49:51 Piecewise: https://www.amazon.com/IFYOO-Controller-Gamepad-Joystick-Computer/dp/B07QBHK3W7/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=usb+controller&qid=1579070949&sr=8-11
06:49:53 Piecewise: 20 bucks
06:50:56 syv: Oh, he wants a dualshock. Because he likes hard angles poking his handmeat, or something.
06:51:49 Piecewise: clearly the best controller was the n64
06:52:09 Piecewise: the ol' Boomerang with a dick
06:52:34 syv: I remember those things.
06:53:02 MidJag: I have literally used one of those things once.
06:53:06 syv: Man, I wonder what it'd be like to use one now. There's so many dumb optimizations you could do for hand positions.
06:53:23 syv: Your childhood was sad, MJ.
06:53:30 Piecewise: The correct way to hold an n64 controller was with 3 hands
06:53:35 Devastator: Heh.
06:53:40 MidJag: It was very book filled.
06:53:47 Piecewise: NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD
06:54:03 Piecewise: I was in a book store this evening
06:54:21 Piecewise: it was filled with pop vinyl figures and manga
06:54:37 Piecewise: the japanese long war is succeeding
06:55:03 Piecewise: Man ancestors are smiling at me, Imperial. Can you say the same?
06:55:24 MidJag: Eh, I'm okay with a fair amount of non books in book stores. As long as the majority is books I'm happy.
06:55:31 ER: my childhood was dreamcast
06:55:35 ER: clearly superior
06:56:06 Devastator: my childhood was atari and intellivision, then NES.
06:56:13 Piecewise: Whens the new dreamcast console coming out ER?
06:56:34 Devastator: :(
06:56:43 Devastator: one of my friends got a dreamcast.
06:57:01 ER: I had the sonic version of mario party
06:57:08 ER: with cards instead of die rolls
06:57:14 Piecewise: Dev your childhood was vectron and tennis for two on an Oscilloscope
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06:57:42 Devastator: Heh.
06:58:44 MidJag: Hmm, I think I got a DS when I was ten or eleven.
06:58:49 Piecewise: I was in the science section and saw a book called "The science of fortnite"
06:59:06 MidJag: That's hysterical.
06:59:06 Piecewise: and I wondered who the fuck it was for
06:59:16 MidJag: Confused grandmmothers
06:59:33 Piecewise: all those science minded, rabid 12 year olds
06:59:40 sy: "Science" is pretty odd, but I'm sure there's a fair bit of design to be studied in Fortnite.
07:00:03 sy: It must have had *some* thought put into the design to ensnare children so effectively.
07:00:08 Piecewise: nah it was about the "Science behind the gadgets, weapons and vehicles of fortnite"
07:00:19 sy: ...Ah.
07:00:19 Piecewise: not about the actual game
07:00:24 ER: ah, so a book marketed for children
07:00:26 MidJag: There's a billion of those kinda things dubs, like the science of star trek or Star wars or whatever.
07:00:34 Piecewise: yeah sure
07:00:45 Piecewise: but at least those are aimed at an audience that might look at them
07:00:47 sy: I feel like star trek nerds are more interested in science than fortnite children.
07:01:10 ER: I did have some neat diagram books of star wars things
07:01:34 sy: Star trek at least has a lot of technobabble. Fortnite... has extremely rapid construction of skyscrapers balanced atop a few planks.
07:01:45 Piecewise: https://i.redd.it/qh2za2iinnt01.jpg
07:02:00 MidJag: I had some of those diagram books as well ER. They were awesome
07:02:16 Piecewise: """"""""""""JOKES""""""""""""""
07:02:24 MidJag: .....Is that real?
07:02:34 Piecewise: yes
07:03:16 MidJag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5mLjKI968g
07:03:16 sy: To be fair. I think there's a lot of ten year olds who would think that's hysterical.
07:03:21 sy: Children are idiots.
07:04:12 MidJag: I am like 70% even when I was ten I wouldn't find most of those funny
07:04:24 Piecewise: I mean
07:04:29 Piecewise: kids love Garfield
07:04:35 Piecewise: oddly
07:04:43 ER: garfield is great.
07:04:51 ER: by whihc I mean the fleshhorror version
07:05:25 Piecewise: Garfield without Garfield is fun
07:05:39 Piecewise: in a stare into the void kind of way
07:06:06 Piecewise: https://66.media.tumblr.com/6b949e2072f18666a0ab04da6681a3ff/tumblr_pyghofiesi1qz8z2ro1_500.png
07:06:27 sy: MJ, you are not of average intelligence.
07:06:44 sy: About half of all ten year olds are, however, below average intelligence.
07:07:09 Piecewise: Cut to that cuphead games journalist footage
07:08:02 Piecewise: Preferably that side by side showing that he's dumber than a Pidgeon
07:08:19 MidJag: Whats this dubs?
07:10:29 Piecewise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjXaAZHEQE
07:11:15 Devastator: heh
07:11:20 MidJag: heh
07:12:20 MidJag: okay that was hilarios
07:13:09 Piecewise: the guy playing cup head was a game journalist
07:13:15 Piecewise: so you know
07:13:21 Piecewise: clear standards
07:13:31 Devastator: wow, that guy's awful.
07:13:32 MidJag: indeed
07:13:48 Piecewise: Like a book critic who can't read
07:13:54 Piecewise: like a movie critic with no eyes
07:14:31 Piecewise: Like ER trying to review pornography
07:14:46 ER: tilde
07:14:47 ER: owo
07:14:50 MidJag: Heh, I've played games near blackout drunk with more skill then that...admitedlly not much more skill than that, but like still.
07:14:59 Piecewise: "Very Repetitive, bad acting, 2/10"
07:15:26 ER: well yeah, how is it supposed to be appealing without nice constumes and deep lore
07:15:48 Piecewise: See
07:16:02 Piecewise: in dark souls you can pick up an item and just know about its past and significance
07:16:06 Piecewise: somehow
07:16:14 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=848Y1Uu5Htk
07:16:17 Piecewise: I like to think all undead are slight psychics
07:16:25 Devastator: apparently dude never played a platformer before.
07:16:30 Piecewise: of course, such a power in real life would be interesting
07:16:41 Devastator: or, if not never, actively avoids doing so.
07:16:52 Piecewise: but it would involve occasionally picking something up and realizing someone had stuck it up their butt
07:17:10 MidJag: how have you never played a platformer as a game journalist? Isn't that like one of the most common intro type games.
07:17:30 Piecewise: they were super common back in the day
07:17:35 Piecewise: not actually as common now
07:17:38 ER: incompetant boss, I guess
07:17:48 ER: I mean, there are tons of kinds of game out there
07:17:54 sy: I'll admit, the jump dash timing in Cuphead is kinda difficult. In the sense "I could see a person with some handicap finding this hard to do."
07:18:08 sy: But yeah, that is impressive.
07:18:09 Piecewise: You see that a lot actually. People getting assigned to review games they have no skill or interest in
07:18:28 Piecewise: hence why godhand has an IGN score lower than "Imagine Babiez"
07:18:29 MidJag: I mean he didnd't even attempt to do it though for like a full mintue.
07:18:58 sy: Some questions do not have answers.
07:21:31 MidJag: Huh, that is a long video descriptor
07:22:05 ER: is anyone going to play syv's PM game?
07:22:37 Piecewise: Prime Minister game?
07:22:56 ER: sure
07:23:50 MidJag: Hmm, I should go to bed.
07:23:54 Devastator: hrm.
07:24:05 MidJag: Night
07:24:05 sy: Night.
07:24:08 ER: firm.
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07:24:08 Devastator: finding out that apparently base level security guards are actually paid ok.
07:25:24 sy: MJ already sent his char, Dev said he's not interested, Irony never commented.
07:25:42 sy: I would assume you would want to pay security decently, yeah.
07:25:58 ER: hmm, that checks out
07:26:47 Piecewise: Be careful about security work
07:27:45 Piecewise: My sister's fiancé is a prison guard and apparently getting into any work that is seen as "Brute squad" stuff is kind of a dark stain on the old resume
07:27:54 Piecewise: makes it hard to get work outside of that field
07:28:26 Piecewise: I am also goign to bead
07:28:37 Piecewise: I arm star melp
07:28:52 Piecewise: Left Hand Paf marrow
07:29:02 Piecewise: hail hydra
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07:33:41 Devastator: mmm.
07:33:57 Devastator: That's a possibility, but nobody who has ever met me would call me brute squad.
07:34:52 sy: You're too much of a goblin for that, that's orc work.
07:37:35 Devastator: heh.
07:45:27 ER: https://youtu.be/Si7dl6BU78E
08:01:39 sy: War is a pretty crap suicide method. There's way too high of a survival rate, and a pretty good chance of nonlethal injury that a bunch of people will do their damndest to save you from.
08:02:21 sy: If you can fight in a war, you get a gun, and that means suicide is an option. Much faster and hurts less.
08:04:11 Devastator: mmm
08:15:47 ER: ah, that's a valuable link https://youtu.be/KRB-iHGHSqk
08:18:09 Devastator: always friendly.
08:18:20 Devastator: "Comments are turned off."
08:18:22 sy: Too long to be poignant.
08:18:23 Devastator: Well, that's a first.
08:18:32 Devastator: seeing a video with a good reason for that.
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08:52:05 ER: hmm
08:52:14 ER: my body is telling me that not sleeping is bad
08:52:31 ER: it is saying hey, we're dying here
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09:51:00 ER: pain dissapated, update time
09:56:16 ER: persuasion: 6. persuasion assist: 8. Intuition: 15.
09:56:23 ER: huh
10:33:47 ER: well that's a... 17.
10:34:12 ER: as a damage roll, on a stunned and grounded body
10:35:06 ER: Hmm, that would justify a d6 health damage roll, as opposed to the 1 chip damage per hit I've been doing
11:13:01 ER: well, zero sleep so I'll go insane later today, but right now I'm second winding so maybe it's worth it to get some things done
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12:33:22 er: And now, breakfast, happy.
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