00:55:53 Devastator: Also, want to yell at Irony.
00:58:14 Devastator: reaaally want to yell at irony.
01:00:37 Devastator: way more than usual.
01:01:21 ER: I have informed the moth of this
01:02:07 Devastator: added like 5 candidates to the shortlist in idol manager game from a 'gather information about my idols' roll.
01:03:22 Devastator: and I'm currently inside a tank.
01:03:52 ER: I rolled a 1 and got a pretty good candidate from that. :P
01:12:33 ER: no, just someone trying to murder me
01:28:48 ER: we are currently working on making anime real
01:29:06 ER: not sure how many people are attracted to ravencat tho
01:35:14 ER: "tell
Dev I can't connect to his primitive communcations tool"
01:56:49 ER: there's more than squad + 3 because more piled in while the hatch was open
01:58:55 Devastator: well that doesn't make sense because I had button up in the last orders.
02:06:08 Devastator: it named each one, and now there's more.
02:08:03 Devastator: well, I'll have to have the ones I want murder the other ones.
02:08:46 ER: also, Whisperling should be turning you right now
02:12:04 Piecewise: I'm pretty sure you can connect to irc with a graphic calculator
02:12:41 ER: school wifi seemed to block it or something
02:13:36 Piecewise: You cannot connect on a calculator, but apparently there is a calculator dedicated IRC room
02:15:17 Devastator: do those rifles run on mana or thaum?
02:15:22 Devastator: and if mana, are they convertable?
02:15:51 Piecewise: Its basically a staff of magic missile that runs off the user's mana
02:16:33 Piecewise: "Thaumic" is just kind of a word to say "Yea, it runs on magic, eh?"
02:17:01 ER: how does their force compare to my own mana rifle?
02:17:24 Piecewise: Its pure magic, so depends on the critter
02:18:05 Piecewise: I'd say in general they're about on par, though the rifles work better on hard targets
02:18:07 ER: ...probably less effective on that ineffectual silder armor, then?
02:18:21 Piecewise: The armor is effective....on something
02:19:19 Devastator: well, there's plenty of them.
02:19:23 Devastator: feel free to take one.
02:19:31 Devastator: and can make it a blunderbuss or something.
02:20:06 Piecewise: Keep in mind though, you're disappointed but he's an explosive mage with a specially made rifle to harness that ability
02:20:20 Piecewise: for a run of the mill soldier's weapon, its not a bad thing
02:20:35 Devastator: I was assuming I'd make it bigger, and then he makes it fire explosive manabolts.
02:20:53 Piecewise: I mean, no reason you can't
02:21:12 Piecewise: go full noita and inevitably kill yourselves
02:25:56 ER: how killy is a d12 lightning bolt?
02:26:47 Piecewise: They're quite strong
02:27:05 ER: also, I can make lightening bolts
02:27:34 ER: I dunno if that's useful, but it's a thing
02:27:50 Piecewise: UNLIMITED POOOOOWER!
02:29:07 ER: I dunno, palp's shit seems kinda weaksauce compared to what a mid level dnd wizard could do
02:30:57 ER: who have a slower spell which makes an actual lightning bolt come from the sky
02:31:46 Piecewise: in the new movie he wipes out an entire fleet of ships with it
02:32:02 Piecewise: apparently just holding back before
02:32:08 ER: you expect me to watch star wars in 2020?~
02:33:10 Piecewise: I did, because someone paid for a ticket for me and I was so...tired
02:34:10 ER: it was inevitable they were going to backpedal on TLJ, the only good movie of the sequel trilogy, so why bother?~
02:37:57 Piecewise: Also
er, why is TLj the only good movie?
02:38:46 ER: I don't have to explain myself to you, you're just a skeleton
02:39:39 Piecewise: most people hated it so I wondered if it was pure contrarianism
02:40:49 ER: well, pretty sure all I remember from whatever 7 was called is the spinny tonfa boi and the bit where it became a monster movie for a second
02:42:13 Piecewise: when the famous martial artists from "The Raid" showed up for bit parts for some reason
02:42:43 ER: tlj was sometimes visually interesting, and I appriciate when someone says darkness is a part of nature
02:43:50 ER: and it would have been cool if the two main forcey people decided to quit their respective dead insititutions and team up to fight everyone else but oh well I guess that will never happen star wars sucks
02:44:39 Devastator: yay, got a turn from Wisperling.
02:52:40 ER: I want fruit. anyone got fruit?
02:54:07 Devastator: does a banana count?
02:54:42 ER: maybe a smoothe tomorrow. that could be good
02:56:57 Piecewise: How about chocolate covered cherries?
03:29:47 Piecewise: I wish bloodborne was on pc
03:29:52 Piecewise: just so it was easier to play
03:45:56 Devastator: going to hit -40 tonight.
03:46:02 Devastator: first time in twenty-five years.
04:02:13 Piecewise: Which do you prefer, IRC chat
04:04:44 Piecewise: Thats what I'm thinking myself
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04:53:32 syv: Shiny red/blue is easily better than browngreen and vomit lime.
04:57:45 Devastator: could be worse, then.
05:05:59 Devastator: have to interrogate
PW about what we learned about thaumic machinery when done here.
05:06:19 Devastator: even if it isn't useful often, tehre's probably some effects more reliably done by such things.. like guns.
05:06:28 Devastator: 1 mana to always do the bang is better than spellcasting to do it.
05:06:52 syv: Eh, sure, but false equivalence?
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05:06:58 syv: The MGs are d12 and cost 0.
05:07:45 Devastator: unless we want magic ammo.
05:08:03 Devastator: I bet we could put like 'fire' or something on a magic gun and it'll do that for the same cost forever again.
05:08:20 Devastator: eh, probably effective against people in conventional armour..
05:08:33 Devastator: d10 v piercing! d0 vs magic.
05:08:50 syv: But maybe. Might as well test it.
05:09:00 Devastator: You sure? I'm pretty sure conventional armour might mean bupkis against magic guns.
05:09:22 er: Also keeping in mind that spellcasting can create items which drain 1 mana per use without knowledge of thaumic machinery
05:09:49 Devastator: that's true, but I don't have unlimited words.
05:09:59 Devastator: and it's another spell.
05:10:14 syv: Yes,
Dev. It really depends on how
Dev rules the magic projectile to work.
05:10:24 er: And breaker gear seems to include things which basically let you cast a specific spell without relevant words
05:10:29 syv: If it just fires a pellet of physical force, then armor will be fine against it.
05:10:47 Devastator: well, time for armour penetration testing.
05:11:01 Devastator: lemme know if you want saeko to summon up a set of chainmail for you or something.
05:11:03 syv: If it instead works on a level a bit more metaphysical, like attacking "life" or whatever, then it'll ignore armor, sure.
05:11:27 syv: Though, to be fair, that could well explain why robots were so effective against them.
05:11:45 Devastator: They might have other enchantments along with the guns.
05:11:51 Devastator: might not be just guns.
05:11:56 syv: Oh, also, those mainspring power sources are awesome.
05:11:59 Devastator: I'm pretty sure those swords have other stuff on them.
05:12:18 Devastator: I didn't get a number for them. You want to keep track of those?
05:12:20 syv: They've got the energy of small bombs stored inside, even if we don't plan to use them in a reasonable fashion.
05:12:35 syv: No, because keeping track of them means I'll actually lose them when I use them.
05:12:35 Devastator: wonder if we can use them to make mana.
05:12:52 er:
Piecewise, you said the rifles deal pure magical damage and can ignore armor, right?
05:12:58 Devastator: let it unscrew into some mana-making machinery, and then spend a day winding it back up.
05:13:01 syv: We can make mana out of damn near anything, why choose the useful unique items?
05:13:16 Devastator: could be renewable.
05:13:23 Piecewise: Well they don't ignore armor, they're just better against it than physical attacks might be
05:14:03 syv: Yeah, I doubt that. Anyway, that's sorta... redundant? If you can transform kinetic energy from an unwinding mainspring into mana, then rewind the mainspring with kinetic energy... why can't you just put the kinetic energy from winding into the machine to begin with?
05:14:13 er: Can wer modify them using words?
05:14:43 er: Like, make one shoot lightning rather than magic missile
05:15:25 Devastator: should also shoot a gun at one of the armour suits.
05:15:31 Devastator: and hope nobody has to be wearing it to power that.
05:15:44 syv: Meh, we have healing magic.
05:15:57 syv: Would you be willing to make a battery for me,
ER?
05:16:02 Devastator: although if that's the case, you gotta shoot it at saeko, she's the toughest save Benedict.
05:16:22 syv: So that I can power my lightsaber, and presumably give it to someone with decent strength? Maybe you?
05:16:49 er: Think electricity is actually a different word, but it's fairly likely to work.
05:16:50 Devastator: well, we've got guards, if you don't want to give it to the baby magebreaker. But
er would be able to charge it back up again.
05:17:00 Devastator: so it'd be a good fit.
05:17:16 Devastator: although we might have lightning swords that run on magic right now.
05:17:38 syv: Mm, yeah. Might just be something to sell to
ER.
05:17:44 syv:
ER, you wanna buy a d12 sword?
05:18:09 er: They'll probably give me something at least that good after this
05:19:38 er: Well, can't really use it alongside a greatsword
05:20:02 er: At least not at this soul level~
05:21:01 Devastator: well, if you don't want it, someone else will get to keep it. Or we'll sell it.
05:21:42 er:
Piecewise, how good will that sword they're making me be at hitting things?
05:22:32 syv: I already have a d12 sword, it just needs a battery, and bam, it works.
05:22:57 syv: The only person making anything would be you, with lightning, I think.
05:23:14 Piecewise: The sword the mage breakers are making?
05:23:25 Piecewise: Depends on the amount of mana you put into the slice.
05:24:12 Piecewise: the standard, totally unempowered is d8
05:24:51 Piecewise: wait, was d8 the highest normal or was that d10?
05:25:36 er: Can they kitbash it with
syv's nerd sword to make a chain greatsword which still fires explosions?
05:25:59 er: Or rather, could I do that with 8+1 kno
05:26:36 Piecewise: d8 totally unempowered. And they could just shift the enchantment to it, sure
05:27:02 syv: The sword is a clockwork sword which runs off a battery.
05:27:10 syv: I don't think it's enchanted...?
05:27:24 syv: Maybe I can clone it, or build copies.
05:27:38 Piecewise: No he's asking about his mage breaker weapon
05:27:46 Piecewise: he wants to know if your sword can be similarly enchanted
05:28:08 Piecewise: probably because he plans to garrote you as you sleep and steal your sword
05:28:19 syv: I just offered to sell it to him, actually.
05:28:24 er: [Fully charged Roy neutral special]
05:28:42 syv: What's the mage breaker sword's die when powered?
05:28:43 Devastator: d8 is highest normal.
05:28:53 Devastator: what are the mana sabres like normally?
05:29:25 Piecewise: they're too fragile unempowered
05:29:42 er: Is the chainsword d8 without the battery?
05:30:19 er: Cool as it would be, being screwed if both the battery and my mana run dry would suck.
05:30:29 syv: It's not a chainsword. Base d6.
05:30:48 syv: Hrm, I didn't write that down?
05:31:03 Devastator: what if I strengthen them so they're useful?
05:32:07 Piecewise: Possible, but they're not really sharp. The sabers are basically magical lightsabers when empowered, but the metal you see is just the core it pours out of
05:32:12 Devastator: yeah, clockwork stuff is better.
05:33:07 Piecewise: This civilization died back when mana was ultra-prevalent. They're a good indication of what tech was like before the current age, when the kingdom has adapted some
05:33:22 Piecewise: everything uses magic
05:34:31 Devastator: makes sense, really.
05:34:35 Devastator: but died while alive.
05:34:41 syv: Dubs, what's the magebreaker sword's die when powered?
05:36:05 er: More appropriate: how much cost to reach d20 attack?
05:36:32 er: Because these are my future enemies~
05:36:34 Piecewise: Depends on how much power
ER pumps into it. For d20...oh pm huh
05:41:00 Piecewise: Help
er is making anime faces at me in the PMs
05:41:39 syv: Send him porn. He'll block you.
05:41:51 er: He said the good numbers, I can't help it
05:42:27 syv: It does sound like the electrosaber would actually be a buff, then.
05:43:10 syv: Getting to d20 should be easier if you start from d12 and not d8, and if it costs mana to do, then that actually means something.
05:43:29 Devastator: what kinda die are we looking at for these lightsabres?
05:43:36 Devastator: I'll write in testing them this turn if you tell me.
05:43:46 syv: Do you mean the thaumsabers?
05:44:03 syv: Clockwork sword is d6/d12 with battery.
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05:46:36 Piecewise: For the mana sabers, its d8+ another polyhedral dice depending on the amount of mana you pump in
05:51:35 Devastator: Welp, so ~10 mana testing that?
06:05:04 syv: A bit discordant, but I like.
06:05:05 ER: ...I wish laser were mapped to something else in addition to x, because mosing with the arrow keys is harder than with wasd
06:06:41 ER: "hey @
ER , apologize to
Dev for me not being able to get into IRC so he can bitch at me about his poor luck and unrealistic expectations"
06:08:03 Piecewise: or, japanese version
06:08:11 Piecewise: which I think is the superior one
06:08:56 Piecewise: Though I still prefer either Pleather for breakfast
06:09:40 Piecewise: or convulsive madness
06:10:29 ER: sadly I haven't played those games, so youtube showing the songs to me is the first I've heard of them.
06:10:40 ER: also why are sniper scythes so common
06:10:41 syv: Pleather foe Breakfast is great.
06:10:55 ER: do peopel just steal the idea whenever they see it
06:11:11 Piecewise: Sniper scythes? Dunno
06:11:23 Piecewise: But RWBY is literally nothing but stolen ideas so
06:11:31 syv: It's common because you can't make a weapon more awesome than that.
06:11:40 Piecewise: Also, pretty sure NMH predates rwby
06:12:41 Piecewise: Yeah, NMH predates RWBY by 3 years
06:13:14 Piecewise: Also, Killer 7 still best
06:13:22 Piecewise: It has a luchadore with a grenade launcher
06:13:31 Piecewise: who headbutts bullets
06:16:09 syv: Is the japanese version of Philistine just more autotuned?
06:16:31 syv: I didn't actually listen fully to the Eng version because it was unpleasant, but this one is... yeah.
06:18:54 syv: Why would anyone play that?
06:22:42 Piecewise: The guy playing that footage is quite bad at it
06:23:52 Piecewise: Killer 7 is probably pretty similar to what you'd get if you watched cowboy bebop while high on lsd
06:25:44 Piecewise: I'm going to bed. It is late for me
06:26:05 ER: thanks for the 2d20 damage!
06:31:14 Devastator: so seems like the magic swords aren't that useful.
06:31:23 Devastator: might be good for one or two shots, but too expensive.
06:33:42 Devastator: still, be nice to have one or two around in case we really need that shot.
06:33:59 Devastator: you think we can cut our way past the blocked doors?
06:36:19 syv: It'll cost mana to repair the cutter, I imagine.
06:38:39 syv: "Writers only write because they can't draw."
06:39:04 Devastator: is your cutter broke?
06:39:15 Devastator: I was expecting to have to boost it so it can get through these walls.
06:39:20 syv: No. But it caused sparks while cutting. Sparks co--
06:40:48 Devastator: well, we've got two big areas left, plus the locked doors.
06:41:05 Devastator: at least we should be able to find a key for a door after going past it, because whoever is past that should have the key for that area.
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06:44:47 syv: I need to make a clockwork spiderbot.
06:45:22 syv: ...Heh, you know, that might not even be an unreasonable two-turn project, here.
06:46:05 ER: make clockwork brains that you can upload your mind to without magic
06:46:06 Devastator: although we only have a month here
06:46:28 syv: Cobble together a body from broken robot bits, animate it, add a view spell + scrying, then shove it through a small hole and have it find the key.
06:46:52 syv: But nah, just cutting a hole for a small person to fit through is prolly easier, faster, *and* cheaper.
06:47:12 Devastator: Yeah, don't see that happening.
06:47:17 syv: Ah yes, suicide, the brave man's solution to all problems.
06:47:21 Devastator: particularly since clockwork has so far been exclusively not brains.
06:48:37 syv: We've literally been calling their smart bits "clockwork brains". To be fair, that's an exaggeration, I don't think it's possible to make any kind of clockwork neural net, but...
06:49:20 Devastator: Yeah, but
PW has been explicit about how the 'brains' are all entirely piles of dumb if-thens.
06:49:34 Devastator: we just dont' have another word for them.
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