00:52:50 Devastator: we gotta bribe the waiter to get to the bar.
01:28:52 Devastator: or maybe it'll be just coffee or something.
01:41:31 Devastator: Hmm, yeah, that's a bad body.
01:41:35 Devastator: missing whatever draggy likes from it.
01:41:40 Devastator: and it's carrion not prey.
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01:59:24 Devastator: Zavi interested in one of those planes?
02:00:32 er: Prolly prohibitively expensive to run. Maybe good as a museum piece or to study the old ways, not practical.
02:02:13 Devastator: dunno, gotta look at first.
02:02:17 Devastator: but yeah, could be the case.
02:05:31 Devastator: it looks to me like too much stuff to loot.
02:06:22 er: Shit used to be inefficient and wasteful. Now, it's not because wasteful doesnt work after everything's wasted.
02:08:37 er: Like finding an intact and functional SUV in a world where there's no more petrol.
02:08:54 er: Put it in neutral and push it around.
02:09:51 Devastator: but there might be petrol here.
02:10:06 Devastator: If the city crashed due to warfare it might still have like 3 days of fuel in it.
02:10:13 Devastator: which is immense these days.
02:10:40 Devastator: and if 90% of the planes are gone, and the rest of the city draws zero, I might have enough supplies for months.
02:11:10 Devastator: I mean, no more petrol sucks, but a somehow magically untouched gas station might have 30,000 l.
02:11:19 Devastator: that'll run your one SUV for quite some time.
02:12:21 er: Or we could break their magicoal supplies down into thaum and all have +5s.
02:12:55 Devastator: I'll prolly do some of that.
02:13:11 Devastator: although I think magicoal -> thaum might not work right.
02:13:23 Devastator: it might be like 30 mana if you eat it turning into 3 mana.
02:13:29 Devastator: and if you eat it you can die.
02:13:46 Devastator: and it's 60 if you use it as fuel.
02:13:46 er: Would you rather fuel some birds made for a world that no longer exists, or use the same resource to make your more efficient griffon better?
02:14:00 Devastator: Griffon ran out of enchantment slots.
02:14:17 Devastator: tbh, I'd rather find some machinery that's worth running and run that, and sell a couple of planes with some fuel for vast riches.
02:14:45 Devastator: I'll free up one if I can find a feline word, so to need fewer grow spells.
02:15:49 Devastator: but yeah, some stuff is going into mana.
02:16:01 Devastator: and I'll absolutely test magicoal to mana should some magicoal be found.
02:17:23 Devastator: There should be some around.
02:17:45 Devastator: plus there's a more efficient option than griffen.
02:19:56 er: The point is that the thaumic birds have a direct comparison in the griffon, which is definately more efficient.
02:21:24 Devastator: dunno, he costs 3 gold/day and like fifty mana worth of spells.
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03:13:14 Devastator: I will admit that benny is more efficient than a magic fighter, but we haven't seen what a magic fighter can do.
03:13:58 ER: they're probably better, but literally designed for a world where they can be powered by the air
03:14:28 ER: I mean, if that works and it's a little better, then you use it.
03:14:35 ER: Doesn't have to be fons better.
03:15:36 Devastator: yeah, that's a point.
03:15:43 Devastator: are these the air-powered ones?
03:15:51 Devastator: I thought these were some later designs than those.
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03:21:14 Devastator: magicoal or mana battery powered.
03:21:23 Devastator: I'd love to have some mana batteries.
03:21:58 Devastator: mmm, mad science tanks.
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03:22:52 Devastator: those orders should be ok.
03:23:01 Devastator: but I do need bold text when you decide who exactly gets the tanks.
03:23:08 Devastator: and yeah, three can work.
03:25:45 Devastator: 3x and for everything.
03:25:49 Devastator: well, assuming no other payload is used.
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03:27:45 Devastator: you back from the desert?
03:33:45 Piecewise: Yeah, helped my sister finish off the house and not its on the market
03:35:00 Devastator: not its on the market?
03:35:07 Devastator: now it's on the market?
03:50:35 ER: hey
dev, how did I research the laser technicals?
03:51:10 Devastator: you took a 50 cost unit and upgraded it, forcing the price up to 75.
03:51:13 Devastator: otherwise they'd be 50.
03:51:44 ER: but basic technicals are 25
03:52:30 Devastator: went off grenades to one-turn it.
03:53:00 Devastator: base woulda taken an extra month.
03:53:11 Devastator: at least. Don't have it open right now to double-check.
03:53:22 Devastator: if you spend a turn on them, I'll let you drop them to 50.
03:53:44 ER: are they shorter range than GMG?
03:53:49 syv: ...That doesn't make sense.
03:54:04 syv: He built an entirely new gun, on a truck chassis.
03:54:34 syv: The only difference between 25 cost technicals and 50 cost technicals is the gun.
03:55:04 Devastator: yeah, but it's the stats that matter.
03:55:14 Devastator: getting from zero to laser is harder than from grenade to laser.
03:55:33 syv: So I could build a tank off my jet fighter design?
03:55:47 syv: And it'd be better than starting with a T-55?
03:56:15 Devastator: I'd need to math it, but probably no.
03:56:27 Devastator: and yeah, you can build stuff off pretty different designs.
03:56:40 Devastator: that flying isn't simple.
03:56:44 Devastator: plus the plane is large.
03:56:49 Devastator: different stuff there.
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03:57:24 ER: can we sacrifice the plane's flying capabilities for more armor? :P
03:57:58 Devastator: It's not that easy.
03:58:02 Devastator: besides, nobody has a big one.
03:58:13 Devastator: mmm, if you want I might just bump laser technicals down to 50.
03:58:19 Devastator: That might have just been a mistake.
03:58:39 Devastator: I do have the mechanic I described, but I don't see when that happened.
04:20:46 Devastator: I'll bump them down to 50, ok?
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05:49:59 MidJag:
ER, you should update Zeroth.
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