ERLOG 2020-01-07

00:37:20 Devastator: hmm.

00:41:19 Devastator: that's a pretty dodgy reason to justify carrying around a can of oil.

00:41:41 Devastator: "If there's a droid hivemind it might look at us more favorably if we carry around a can of oil to bribe a droid with."

00:41:45 Devastator: I mean, we have money.

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00:53:22 IronyOwl: damn, was hoping ER would be on

00:53:37 IronyOwl: I mostly know what I'm going to do in Kaijucom, but there's still a few snags to work out

00:53:48 IronyOwl: possibly processing things for ER's catgirls is one such snag

00:54:01 IronyOwl: possibly loaning him physics lab money for more awesome catgirls is another

00:58:09 IronyOwl: also I know I asked you before but I forgot the answer because I'm a goldfish

00:58:31 IronyOwl: does my kaiju dissection annex apply to all my kaiju labs, or do I need to build more to service each one?

00:59:33 Devastator: lo

00:59:43 Devastator: each one.

00:59:48 Devastator: it's a building add-on.

00:59:55 IronyOwl: a shame, but manageable

01:00:02 IronyOwl: also just one turn to produce, IIRC?

01:00:03 Devastator: also, stuff is built the turn it finishes.

01:00:07 Devastator: yeah, just one.

01:00:15 Devastator: 1 turn things are ready next turn.

01:01:16 IronyOwl: so my second kaiju lab is done in 2 "turns", does that mean phases or months?

01:02:07 Devastator: phases.

01:02:29 IronyOwl: so it'll be ready to use at the start of next month?

01:02:37 Devastator: Yes.

01:02:45 IronyOwl: and thus, I should build my second annex now so it's also ready to use next month, since I can't build it during the action phase?

01:04:24 Devastator: Yeah.

01:06:52 Devastator: ER's usually on sometime in the next hour or so.

01:08:01 IronyOwl: well he'll enjoy the good news: I'm probably gonna front him the money for a physics lab in exchange for some dire recompense or another, and also process his kaiju part likewise in exchange for something we'll figure out later

01:08:20 IronyOwl: man I hope I don't get burned, I hear catgirls are a volatile market

01:09:05 Devastator: heh.

01:09:14 Devastator: you got bucks, after all.

01:09:18 IronyOwl: I do!

01:09:29 Devastator: I was expecting more large vehicles, to be honest.

01:09:29 IronyOwl: in fact I get the feeling I have considerably more bucks than anyone else

01:09:34 Devastator: I'll say this, they have real advantages.

01:09:46 IronyOwl: I suspected as much, but syv says smol is the way of the future

01:09:53 Devastator: of course he does. ;-p

01:10:03 Devastator: and the guy fielding tanks seems to be doing well.

01:10:24 IronyOwl: syv also says his 50 artillery are almost as good as my 250 tanks

01:10:38 IronyOwl: I'm unsure whether that's an optimistic assessment or not

01:12:04 Devastator shrugs

01:12:39 Devastator: syv does have more military info.

01:15:03 Devastator: but nobody has the whole picture.

01:15:07 IronyOwl: the other problem is that we've seen kaiju attack but not finish off tanks and infantry, but for obvious reasons they tend to ignore infantry while there's better targets around

01:15:21 IronyOwl: artillery is expendable even by syv's judgement

01:15:47 IronyOwl: so tanks can, well, tank, while infantry is less good at using their meatshield-ness to cover for the paper artillery

01:16:08 IronyOwl: I wonder if having some tanks on the field is important for letting syv's artillery hammer away for a much longer period of time

01:16:43 IronyOwl: alternatively, maybe if everyone massed artillery and the target didn't have enough AOE the raw damage would be a better solution than trying to tank with basic bitch tech

01:17:46 Devastator: mostly you guys are just going to need more oomph.

01:18:04 IronyOwl: yeah

01:18:29 IronyOwl: my obsession with "support" tech has made me a very wealthy man, but it does mean I have very little to show in the hardware department

01:18:45 IronyOwl: part of the reason I'm gonna fund pw's flesh addiction

01:19:25 Devastator: shadow finished a project, btw.

01:19:36 IronyOwl: ooh, good good

01:19:42 IronyOwl: I look forward to seeing it

01:19:44 Devastator: should be fun, assuming I can get him to issue orders that'll let him field it.

01:19:48 IronyOwl: heh

01:20:21 IronyOwl: remind me of the size of my bote and the largest size hangars/labs/workshops I can build without circumstances I don't have?

01:20:32 IronyOwl: *research, I know Large is the largest I can build

01:22:32 Devastator: bote is large +1.

01:22:46 IronyOwl: okay, so not that hueg

01:22:53 Devastator: I'm going to call it huge.

01:22:56 IronyOwl: heh

01:23:02 IronyOwl: so exactly that huge

01:23:58 Devastator: ya.

01:25:01 Devastator: exactly that huge.

01:25:13 Devastator: I figure past that will be Giant and Collosal.

01:26:31 IronyOwl: come to think of it, diversifying into waifu bote, catgirls, and flesh-wasps is probably a fairly wise strategy

01:26:59 IronyOwl: if one (such as my precious bote) doesn't pan out (such as because a kaiju blows it out of the water on round one) I'll have tendrils in the others

01:27:19 Devastator: expect kaiju-related murder like all the time.

01:27:42 IronyOwl: that's what we're here to stop, after all!

01:28:03 IronyOwl: which has so far been a combination of acting as a bulwark and speedbump

01:28:39 IronyOwl: hm

01:29:25 IronyOwl: it would be boring, but if I really wanted to take one for the team

01:29:47 IronyOwl: I could avoid researching too much on my own and just buy the special stuff from other orgs

01:30:09 IronyOwl: would be even more effective with mad scientists but that's obvious and probably too in demand to field my entire army from

01:30:36 IronyOwl: whereas paying ER to produce catgirls or shadow for his stuff or whoever reverse engineers death rays for that could work

01:30:51 Devastator: eh.

01:30:59 IronyOwl: sounds boring to you too? ;p

01:31:00 Devastator: you can do what you want with your money.

01:32:06 IronyOwl: what size are battleships? Giant or colossal or even higher?

01:32:21 Devastator: I'd probably say colossal.

01:32:27 Devastator: +2 from a sub.

01:32:41 IronyOwl: would aircraft carriers be colossal or colossal+1?

01:34:39 Devastator: about the same size.

01:35:36 IronyOwl: you can fit 2 Mediums in a Large hangar, 4 Mediums in Huge, 8 in Giant, and 16 in Colossal, right?

01:35:47 Devastator: No, actually.

01:35:50 IronyOwl: ah crap

01:36:04 Devastator: it's 3 in a huge, 4 in a giant..

01:36:07 IronyOwl: my plan for BIGGER IS ALWAYS BETTER hits a snag

01:36:13 IronyOwl: hm hm

01:36:19 Devastator: 2 of the next size down, but it doesn't double.

01:36:30 Devastator: mostly to make one HUEG transport less efficient.

01:36:39 IronyOwl: yeah, that was exactly my plan

01:37:01 Devastator: note your starting transports are "2x Medium", not "1x Large."

01:37:39 IronyOwl: ah, yes

01:37:43 IronyOwl: also hmmmm-worthy

01:38:07 IronyOwl: well, syv wanted someone to research better air transport anyway, maybe that'll end up being me

01:38:33 IronyOwl: speaking of which: if we can get Fast boat transports, would that be equivalent to air dropping them?

01:38:43 Devastator: Basically.

01:38:49 Devastator: although there might be some small tactical differences.

01:39:41 IronyOwl: might end up looking into that then, since if I'm going to be researching these fuckoff huge things air transport might get real awkward real quick

01:39:57 IronyOwl: (cue the flying battleship from Avengers)

01:41:36 IronyOwl: shit I'm gonna need ER before I can complete my turn

01:41:44 Devastator: Hmm.

01:41:52 Devastator: Ahh, starcrash.

01:41:57 IronyOwl: I can afford 2 artillery pieces to bring into battle AND buy him a HEPL

01:42:01 IronyOwl: starcrash?

01:42:13 IronyOwl: OR I can buy a modern tank and an artillery piece, and be effective in battle

01:42:29 Devastator: The greatest movie for ER movie night ever.

01:42:36 IronyOwl: ahaha, fair enough

01:42:43 Devastator: Also featuring the greatest line in film history.

01:42:45 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Rh2pfdxPU

01:44:21 IronyOwl: lol, that's pretty great

01:44:41 Devastator: Movie also features an amp user.

01:44:58 Devastator: and it's fucking lightning, there's a new absurd scene every three minutes or so.

01:45:57 IronyOwl: so can each Medium slot on our starting transports carry 2 Small things, eg x4 artillery pieces total?

01:46:32 IronyOwl: I clearly haven't been paying enough attention to syv's zapp brannigan shenanigans

01:48:34 Devastator: yes.

01:48:47 Devastator: the kaiju don't have kill limits.

01:50:11 IronyOwl: THAT WE KNOW OF!

01:50:16 IronyOwl: more experimentation is required

01:51:09 IronyOwl: alright well poor ER is gonna have to wait because I can't afford to fuck around with this kaiju, so I can't afford to buy him the most expensive building in the game (so far) that I don't even have myself (so far) yet

01:53:13 Devastator: mmm.

01:54:01 Devastator: well, thanks for stopping by.

01:54:11 Devastator: I'm mostly hoping for a post or two to get everyone else involved.

01:54:14 Devastator: lots of no orders yet.

01:54:24 IronyOwl: yeah, I'm working on my post as we speak

01:54:43 IronyOwl: currently have everything else planned out, just calculating the cost/benefit of a second air transport

01:58:01 Devastator: mmm.

01:58:06 IronyOwl: so if I build a hangar and buy an air transport this turn, can the transport be stored in the hangar I just built or do I need to wait for next phase?

01:58:22 IronyOwl: which is to say next month, since I can't buy things next phase?

01:59:42 Devastator: yeah.

02:00:08 Devastator: nah, you gotta have a place to put it before you buy it. You can shove it in a large workshop, though.

02:00:19 Devastator: only the BM lets you store stuff.

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02:01:35 IronyOwl: WRONG BUTTON!

02:01:40 IronyOwl: sorry what were you saing

02:01:43 IronyOwl: *saying

02:03:14 Devastator: nah, you gotta have a place to put it before you buy it. You can shove it in a large workshop, though.

02:03:16 Devastator: only the BM lets you store stuff.

02:03:26 IronyOwl: curses

02:05:33 Devastator: I mean, a transport might be served up by the BM.

02:55:56 Devastator: mmm.

02:55:58 Devastator: ER?

02:56:19 IronyOwl: he's missing me gib flesh like he wanted

02:56:28 IronyOwl: his dream of catgirls inches closer to ruinous completion

02:56:52 IronyOwl: and all for a very reasonable interest rate!

02:57:28 Devastator: yeah.

02:57:31 Devastator: of alll your money.

02:58:30 IronyOwl: well, not JUST your money

03:00:31 Devastator: and your soul.

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03:02:01 Devastator: heya er.

03:02:07 Devastator: IO wants to talk catgirls.

03:02:19 er: Srry, playing smash with friends~

03:03:26 IronyOwl: winning or losing?

03:05:20 er: Yes.

03:06:02 er: Mewtwo is fun

03:09:16 er: His neutral b has a hitbox when charging, but people keep forgetting this

03:09:30 er: And running into it.

03:09:33 Devastator: which smash?

03:09:40 er: Melee

03:09:57 er: Though I think we're going to go brawl now

03:11:51 Devastator: mmm

03:12:30 IronyOwl: so ER, I'm willing to gib flesh this turn, though I'm still not sure what I want in return

03:13:47 er: Could just give you 2 skin, I believe.

03:14:11 IronyOwl: parts aren't that useful, it's the egghead-turns that are the real bottleneck

03:16:23 er: Feed you more armor? :3

03:16:55 er: I have 1 now and will have 2 more this turn.

03:24:57 IronyOwl: the armor didn't seem to help much last time D:

03:30:39 er: Dev claims it's good

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03:31:56 Elastic_Ridicule: begone, faker

03:32:21 er: You're not good enough to be m-

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03:38:25 Devastator: mmm

03:39:02 ER: Irony, if you don't want things that I have, then giv KDA blueprint :3

03:40:31 IronyOwl: mm, I certainly could...

04:20:06 Devastator: you don't want the catgirl blueprint?

04:32:15 Devastator: mmm

04:32:25 ER: I dunno, does he?

04:32:40 ER: Will probably cost a lot, but it'll be dope

04:32:49 Devastator: depends on what you want from it.

04:33:28 ER: listen, I want an organic unit with large amounts of common kaiju stuff crammed into it

04:33:51 IronyOwl: I might want the catgirl blueprint, but neither me nor syv has seen them so it's hard to know :p

04:34:48 Devastator: I would like a little more direction than that.

04:35:09 ER: well, I don't have what I need to do that yet

04:35:51 IronyOwl: what do you need?

04:36:08 ER: MORE MOOSLE

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04:36:12 ER: MORE GUT

04:36:13 Devastator: fleeesh.

04:36:14 Devastator: heya MJ.

04:36:19 MidJag_: hiya dev

04:36:21 IronyOwl: how much moosle is enough moosle?

04:36:43 ER: one more turn's worth, weither that's my turn or yours

04:36:48 MidJag_: Moosle?>

04:37:02 IronyOwl: what are you total bit counts going to be for this thing?

04:37:02 ER: [MOOOOOSLE]

04:37:08 IronyOwl: muscle but MOOSLED

04:37:27 IronyOwl: this will actually give fantastic data though

04:37:28 ER: well, I guess I could just double down and go for way more

04:37:41 IronyOwl: I assume we're going to get somebody building something with a bit or two soon

04:37:46 IronyOwl: and we have pw going all flesh hungry

04:37:47 ER: I have 3 and I was hoping for 5 more from you, plus 3 guts

04:37:57 IronyOwl: so 8 muscle, 3 guts total?

04:38:10 ER: yeah

04:38:48 ER: assuming that process yields are constant, which is a giant throbbing maybe

04:38:52 IronyOwl: yeah

04:39:04 IronyOwl: been pretty consistent without the modifiers, though

04:39:14 ER: so really as much as I can get away with.

04:39:33 IronyOwl: me and syv both look forward to the results

04:40:18 ER: maybe I should just take half a year or something to hoard bits, and take it to a more rediculous extreme...

04:40:25 Devastator: nah.

04:40:34 Devastator: remember, you need the same again to actually make the catgirls.

04:40:42 Devastator: or catgirl, depending.

04:40:45 IronyOwl: should really start out semi-manageable and promptly useful, too

04:40:46 ER: yeah, but I can get more while researching

04:41:01 IronyOwl: we still don't actually know how bits affect designs, let alone LOTS of bits

04:41:04 ER: if they're a good enough super unit, will I REALLY need more than one? :V

04:41:20 IronyOwl: this would be a good experiment to let you know about the feasibility of 30 muscle catgirl(s)

04:41:38 ER: 99 STRENGTH

04:41:39 MidJag_: .....What game is this?

04:41:44 IronyOwl: Kaiju-Com

04:42:27 MidJag_: Ah

04:42:50 IronyOwl: as I'm sure you've gathered, ER has decided that catgirls are the secret to humanity's salvation

04:43:08 MidJag_: Of course

04:43:09 Devastator: didn't get anything from whisperling, ER.

04:43:10 IronyOwl: we know we can use processed tissues from kaiju to make units stronger, and he has particular opinions on that

04:43:11 ER: buff catgirls

04:43:19 ER: who jump good and use greatswords

04:43:42 IronyOwl: or as the kaiju call them, "razor fleas"

04:43:53 MidJag_: Heh

04:44:17 ER: if sord sharp and big, cut good

04:44:20 IronyOwl: not sure how wise it'll be for them to be jumping around on the thing everyone else is shooting at, though

04:44:45 Devastator: yeah, mayhaps.

04:44:51 ER: easy, just jump good and very fast to get there before everyone else

04:44:52 Devastator: also, do note that you might want to make the sword.

04:45:22 ER: ...holding out for a way to steal those impossibly sharp kaiju sords

04:45:45 IronyOwl: that'll probably take longer than the bits OR research

04:46:04 IronyOwl: since you need to find a kaiju that has swords AND drops them, and then also be the one who loots them or buy them from the one who is

04:46:15 ER: It's still out there

04:46:42 IronyOwl: yeah, but that's no guarantee that you'd get usable swords off it even if you could dissect it

04:46:47 IronyOwl: which is a whole nother kettle of fish

04:46:48 ER: in fact, as I told you, it's been captured.

04:47:18 IronyOwl: man

04:47:27 IronyOwl: if we had syv in here we'd have 60% of the orgs in one spot

04:47:36 IronyOwl: scheming in a smoke-filled back room as God intended

04:47:36 Devastator: mmm.

04:47:40 Devastator: maybe syv's working on PS>

04:47:46 Devastator: or not.

04:48:04 IronyOwl: he did mention writer's block last time

04:48:09 IronyOwl: perhaps he's conquered it

04:48:09 Devastator: yeah.

04:49:39 Devastator: maaaybe.

04:51:26 ER: hmm

04:51:42 ER: is writers block a witch?

04:52:00 Devastator: with a b.

04:55:09 Devastator: also need syv in Cabal. Want to see if he can use a human word spell to interrogate the corpse.

04:55:20 Devastator: get backstory, intel, and be able to memorialize the dead guy.

05:13:20 Devastator: will wake up for a quick check in middle of night.

05:13:23 Devastator: not slping right.

06:08:31 ER: slep

06:18:08 MidJag_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-M224HdX4M

06:18:15 MidJag_: :P

06:18:52 ER: I lose my DR if I don't sleep

06:18:59 MidJag_: DR?

06:19:06 ER: damage resistance

06:21:24 MidJag_: Ah right.

06:21:32 MidJag_: Yeah sleep is pretty useful.

09:43:25 ER: ...yeah, certainly would be

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10:08:05 MidJag_: Hmm, I should follow ER's lead

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11:15:50 Devastator: hmm.

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19:21:55 er: Blorble

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21:39:38 er: What's a better name for god survival game: Death Plane, or Maker's Grave?

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23:43:15 syv: Death Plane!

23:43:39 syv: Admittedly, it has little to do with the game itself, and sounds more like a very lethal aircraft, but it's awesome.

23:54:35 er: Mm, yeah it sounds good.

23:55:48 er: But makersgrave would be more *accurate* :p

23:57:27 syv: "Maker" sounds flat.

23:57:46 syv: I'unno, "Genesis' Grave"?

23:58:03 syv: Alliteration with that, at least.