ERLOG 2020-01-01

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00:45:31 er: Oh also
00:45:38 syv: ?
00:45:49 er: It can be "this decade"
00:46:55 syv: It's not even 2020 yet, and I've already seen five separate jokes about "this decade" or "last decade"
00:47:30 syv: Can jokes become old before they even become appropriate?
00:48:56 er: Only five?
00:50:42 er: Also, it's exactly as appropriate as "this year"
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01:31:29 ER: link music pls
02:11:20 syv: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EXC8WMQ-1hg
02:11:57 ER: too late, already watching youtube~
02:35:28 ER: ...oh yeah, might have to modify Strength for the assumption that the characters are adults
02:35:57 ER: because that's what it would have to be without powers, and I'm not writing powers yet
02:54:22 syv: Are you gonna just post the basic mechanics without powers? I still recommend doing so, you should ensure you have a good runnable system before adding extra mechanics on top of it.
02:55:29 ER: That is what I'll do, yes.
02:55:41 syv: yay
02:55:47 ER: Also because powers will take more than two hours
03:02:57 ER: https://pastebin.com/raw/HbwjS2ss
03:03:30 ER: ah, here comes having to write lore
03:03:40 syv: That works.
03:03:47 syv: I forget, is perception a stat?
03:03:55 ER: ye
03:05:43 ER: okay, name of fictional metropolis! It's where Soverign aka Stealth are headquartered, but they're technically not *in charge* of it
03:08:50 syv: Seems appropriate
03:10:03 ER: Zeroth.
03:10:18 ER: because it's a testgame and thus the zeroth episode, getit
03:14:17 Devastator: heya.
03:14:36 ER: <3
03:15:31 ER: okay, name for not americans?
03:16:36 ER: Was thinking they might live on a frigid contanant, like an alaska in the shape of austrailia
03:17:37 Devastator: Sandigors.
03:22:59 syv: Atlanteans?
03:24:22 ER: atlanteans would have to be WAY more insane~
03:27:12 syv: Aciremen? Who live in Acirema?
03:35:11 ER: https://youtu.be/sCOyycDOgeg
03:41:01 ER: yeah, I'll take Acirema
03:48:16 syv: Just in case you missed the joke, it's America backwards. Which is fine, it works and makes for a tongue-in-cheek joke, but...
03:48:36 ER: you should know I'm too dumb for that
03:48:52 ER: eh. should I change it?
03:48:58 syv: Naaaah
03:49:52 ER: just call em alds and crescians
03:50:10 syv: Give them a military motto of "Heay kuf, Acirema!", with the "heay kuf" being derived from their equivalent of latin.
03:50:23 ER: I'm probably going to subconciously draw from that world
03:50:33 syv: It's a good world to draw from.
03:50:48 syv: And the politics of it have long struck me as being excellently done.
03:50:54 ER: heay kuf!
03:51:14 ER: yeah, it's surprisingly good, I guess.
03:51:58 ER: unique without being TOO unique, I think.
03:52:06 ER: a hard balance to strike.
03:52:19 Devastator coughs about Temerant. ;-p
03:52:26 Devastator: (World name for NotW.)
03:52:58 ER: has syv read that?
03:53:13 syv: Yes. Only the first book, though.
03:53:17 syv: It's great.
03:53:40 ER: damn.
03:53:55 ER: does that mean that I actually should follow a dev recommandation?
03:54:03 Devastator: to be fair, the environment was good for someone enjoying a book.
03:54:24 Devastator: and you know you might not like what I recommend, but I only recommend stuff when it's got something to it.
03:54:37 Devastator: there's some reason to give it a shot.
03:57:52 syv: Yeah, NoTW is a genuinely great book. It is, however, a very *long* book. I wouldn't say that it's an undue length--most all of the arcs work as their own stories, there's no waiting through tens of thousands of pointless junk words--but halfway through you'll prolly be thinking "wait, this story is *still* going? We still have barely seen the actual villains!" just because most average books would have already resolved.
03:58:34 ER: words words words
04:01:29 Devastator: yeah, that's a fair point.
04:01:48 Devastator: Any idea how the storyteller knew Kvothe's name, syv?
04:02:20 syv: The storyteller? Chronicler?
04:02:36 syv: Or the guy when he was in Tarbean...? Did he know Kvothe's name?
04:02:45 Devastator: Yeah.
04:02:56 Devastator: specifically mentioned it when telling Kvothe to run away.
04:05:01 syv: Don't recall, and don't really have a good recollection of that scene either.
04:07:42 Devastator: mmm.
04:07:49 Devastator: big scene.
04:07:53 Devastator: but understandable.
04:19:24 ER: okay, testgame for syv, dev, and MJ?
04:23:06 syv: yes
04:23:09 syv: Yesyes
04:24:18 ER: well, I don't know what to do with this for the next half hour
04:24:33 ER: should I just wait so that it's more dramatic?
04:25:01 syv: No! Gimmegimme
04:25:10 ER: given
04:26:22 ER: https://youtu.be/4YRGs4Ztm60
04:33:44 ER: of note, spirit "doesn't exist", base health is now 10 rather than 8, and you can carry heavier weapons
04:34:32 Devastator: yay.
04:34:36 Devastator: ..but can't play tonight.
04:34:56 ER: it's a PM game, take as long as you want
04:35:00 ER: I know that I will~
04:35:02 syv: Nor can I!
04:35:09 syv: I'm frigging exhausted
04:38:26 ER: can you at least yell questions at me?
04:38:59 syv: probably
04:40:36 Devastator: The cash mechanics seem interesting.
04:41:05 ER: Really? I't pretty much just a handwave on my part
04:41:29 Devastator: those are the best ones.
04:41:42 Devastator: Also, been following the Prequel game?
04:42:01 ER: nope, I've got some levels to catch up on I guess
04:42:10 Devastator: looks like I want to split the survival categories to increase the amount of regeneration.
04:42:16 Devastator: it's been getting stupidly hard.
04:44:05 Devastator: mmm.
04:44:11 syv: I've got all but the first two to catch up on. :P
04:44:16 Devastator: looks like automatic fire is Just Better, except for ammo.
04:44:22 Devastator: but that seems reasonable.
04:44:54 syv: Can we get additional guns?
04:45:24 syv: Automatic fire isn't just better, no. Semiauto allows you multiple two hit rolls, and guarantees you at least one.
04:45:47 syv: Autofire only allows you one roll, if you succeed on a separate check in the first place.
04:46:13 syv: Or... oh, that changed.
04:46:29 syv: Still, semiauto is easier, and gets you multiple to-hits
04:46:44 ER: did I forget to change single?
04:46:46 Devastator: mmm
04:47:35 syv: "Single shot is simplest, making one attack roll and using one cartridge per turn. Firing single-shot rolls twice and takes the higher result."
04:47:43 ER: ah, good
04:48:00 syv: Ah yeah, and the other advantage to singleshot is that you don't need to invest in Control at all. More skillpoints.
04:48:10 ER: yesh
04:48:24 syv: So the system has multiple choices for how to build, and what actions to take when you're actually in battle.
04:48:54 ER: you can get additional guns, as part of preperation.
04:49:35 Devastator: dual wielding?
04:49:40 Devastator: not even for the magical girls?
04:49:44 syv: Will we be restricted to Acirema weapons, or can we buy from Sovereign? How about the el-cheapos?
04:50:51 syv: What kinda prices would we be looking at? Will buying SMGs be cheaper than buying MGs? AMRs?
04:50:54 ER: It will depend on what's available. You're not IN Acirema, all all of their weapons are built for their military, so you probably won't be able to get your hands on them.
04:51:11 syv: Ahh.
04:51:36 syv: So probably guerilla weapons, maybe CQB faction weapons.
04:52:08 ER: And Sov's cheap military aid gun~
04:52:28 syv: Hah
04:52:29 Devastator: well, unless we steal some guns, but yeah.
04:52:41 Devastator: you want something you can get ammo for, since we're soldiers, right?
04:53:13 syv: Hm. I never actually wrote out which calibers the guns are chambered for.
04:54:09 syv: For the most part, there's two pistol calibers, two intermediate calibers, one rifle caliber, and one AMR caliber. Only one shotgun type too, beyond CQB's prop one.
04:54:47 Devastator: hmm.
04:54:47 ER: um
04:54:57 ER: what am I supposed to do with these antlers
04:54:57 Devastator: what sort of things will we be shooting at?
04:55:04 Devastator: Is this like a vietnam scenario?
04:55:16 Devastator: want me to tell you, or want to figure it out?
04:55:25 syv: Antlers???
04:55:26 ER: I'll try a few more times
04:55:29 syv: Oh, Prequelgame.
04:55:46 Devastator: It's the worst weapon in the history of bullet-hells.
04:57:01 ER: huh
04:57:12 ER: I've killed a few things, and I don't know how!
04:57:48 Devastator: hopefully.
04:57:54 syv: Do you have to hit enemies with it backward?
04:58:03 Devastator: nope.
04:58:06 Devastator: forwards only.
04:58:16 ER: ah, got it
04:58:18 ER: not too hard
04:58:56 ER: this is mostly hard because I'm trying to eat popcorn~
04:59:57 syv: Seems like +1 strength is probably a safe point to go for.
05:00:25 ER: oh, new year
05:00:27 syv: Sidearms broadly just suck (of course), but you can get some good light weapons.
05:00:30 syv: Woot!
05:00:48 Devastator: Happy new year.
05:00:58 Devastator: I've got 3 more hours.
05:01:11 ER: let's hope 2020 isn't too much of a shitter
05:02:28 Devastator: hope so.
05:02:28 syv: It'll be a year full of hindsight.
05:02:44 Devastator: although I'm not too bad, got a better job in 2019 and kept it.
05:02:46 syv: Hopefully, the year everyone finally realizes Trump was a bad fucking choice.
05:02:59 Devastator: Eh, his numbers are awful.
05:03:19 Devastator: most likely path to re-election will be if Putin rigs it.
05:03:25 syv: They aren't 0%. SAD!
05:03:31 Devastator: Yeah.
05:04:21 syv: Aaand the neighbors are shooting the clouds.
05:04:28 syv: Sigh.
05:04:53 Devastator: welp.
05:04:59 Devastator: fireworks are better.
05:05:21 Devastator: show em up with them.
05:05:59 ER: why use a gun when you could use an IED
05:07:03 syv: Don't have any.
05:07:16 syv: ...I do have supplies for making pipe bombs, though.
05:07:37 syv: That takes too long sadly.
05:08:00 ER: I feel like I really should be allowed to charge diagonally
05:08:03 Devastator: and don't worry, things might look bad, but people have survived shitty politics on this level before.
05:08:12 Devastator: yes, it WOULD be nice, yes.
05:08:47 syv: Hrm. Damn, we're gonna need someone with persuade in the test game. Someone needs to buy the guns.
05:09:00 syv: Dev, do you wanna be our Mr. Bond?
05:09:34 ER: heh, I was being too competionist
05:09:40 Devastator: Sounds ok.
05:09:42 ER: just gotta make a hole and get in one hit
05:10:12 Devastator: probably just +1 in it.
05:10:20 Devastator: yeah, it only takes one hit.
05:10:26 Devastator: fucking game, though.
05:11:35 syv: I really think we should have a +2 or better in any "important" skill. It's 3d6, small bonuses can have substantial effects.
05:12:34 Devastator: Yeah, but +1 is a big edge.
05:12:47 Devastator: dunno if I'd call it important.
05:13:35 syv: Hmm. With the guns I wrote, Marksmanship is probably actually *not* hugely important, at least for sniping or something. Most SRs are good enough to hit reliably even with a low skill.
05:13:56 syv: So having a specialty of sniping is prolly dumb. :(
05:13:59 Devastator: well, is it beneficial to take a stronger but less accurate gun?
05:14:07 Devastator: eh, depends on the advantages of extreme range.
05:14:45 ER: long range will most likely not be something you run into in this setting
05:14:53 ER: unless you try to set it up
05:15:07 Devastator: might do that.
05:15:09 syv: Maybe. Probably not. Sniper rifles are powerful *and* accurate. For closer ranges, very much yes, though probably only hugely so against armored opponents.
05:15:16 Devastator: so what are we going to shoot at?
05:16:09 ER: part of your setup time can involve figuring that out~
05:16:49 syv: Hrm.
05:17:24 syv: Well, MJ's gonna be the medic, inevitably. Prolly also more of a CQB build, that seems medic-y and appropriate for him.
05:17:28 ER: yeah, I thin level 9 is designed to show you that charging is usually a trap. :P
05:17:51 ER: and 10 is up for me at least
05:18:22 syv: I'm gonna have good marks, no doubt, and will prolly spec towards perception, because I love sniping and we'll want a per build if we're doing scouting.
05:18:37 Devastator: mmm
05:18:53 Devastator: well, time to do 9
05:19:01 syv: ...We might want a heavy, just to keep options open. Maybe that should be me, the stat MGs need most is marksmanship, and AMRs are heavy.
05:19:37 ER: hmm, feels like no diagonal charging is in service of the level design in 10
05:21:04 syv: Oh, there's a question for you, ER. How will armor work, aside from defense? Are stats required to equip it?
05:21:16 Devastator: 9's pretty easy.
05:21:21 ER: no.
05:21:25 syv: Armor is wonderful and we want it.
05:21:29 Devastator: or maybe the design of 10 is in line with no diagonal charging.
05:21:35 Devastator: eh, maybe for MGs.
05:21:35 syv: Does it give any penalties?
05:21:43 ER: no.
05:21:51 syv: Hot damn!
05:22:07 syv: ...Does armor exist?
05:22:24 ER: Most likely, somewhere in the universe
05:22:34 syv: :\
05:23:06 Devastator: heh
05:23:36 ER: I dunno, it's an urban city, do you usually find really heavy combat armor for sale in a big city?
05:23:57 ER: I have no clue because the universe is myserious to me, but I'd say it's probably a little rare
05:24:14 syv: Probably not really heavy stuff, but light body armor? Absolutely, yes.
05:24:15 ER: but the minimum armor, you could get that easy
05:25:11 syv: The highest quality armor is basically meant to be Level IV steel, so pretty rare, but not unreasonable. Expensive.
05:25:19 ER: huh, your lightest armor completely negates pistols?
05:25:32 syv: Headshots.
05:25:35 syv: But yeah.
05:26:33 ER: I always get hit by the bottom ornaments when they appear, dammit
05:27:16 Devastator: heh.
05:27:32 Devastator: so 10's really hard?
05:27:40 ER: they're all hard for me
05:28:30 Devastator: ahh.
05:28:46 Devastator: well, you beat the boss in about the same time I did.
05:30:55 ER: hmm, beat 10
05:31:07 ER: the end is easy, I was getting stuck on the last hard part
05:31:36 ER: but I think I could beat 10 more consistantly than 8
05:31:50 Devastator: good.
05:31:55 Devastator: the boss is a real pisser.
05:32:09 syv: Oh, ER, you could rule that any hit deals at least one point of damage, even if the armor should fully mitigate it. Though that almost makes the Crash's higher damage meaningless.
05:33:48 syv: Though even that might be kinda meaningless. Need to land ten hits if you're only doing 1 damage per hit, which is pretty difficult.
05:33:49 ER: I kinda like the antlers
05:34:23 ER: I could just start hitting you with stamina damage if you take enough hits
05:34:51 syv: Ohh, yeah, the multiple healthbars thing. That'd make sense, yeah.
05:35:25 Devastator: that sounds fine.
05:36:24 ER: someone get a MGL with flashbangs and smash everything into negative Lucidity
05:36:34 Devastator: Yay.
06:53:26 ER: blep
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07:10:36 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNiZbwDwUl8
07:14:36 syv has quit [Quit: You hear a distant scream of "FUCK AT&T!"]
07:19:24 Devastator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMNt4jlvb2A
18:31:15 Devastator: Mad scientist turns up.
18:31:32 Devastator: I'll have everyone else done after dinner tonight, hopefully. Scoring these months is proving unnecessarily hard.
19:34:45 Devastator: "What do you know about me, Knocker?"
19:34:48 Devastator: "You know one thing."
19:34:57 Devastator: "I have a special dog."
19:35:06 Devastator: "Why do you think I, myself, would be any less special?"
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20:36:18 Devastator: mmm
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21:08:58 NJW: Heyhey @Devastator. How was new year?
21:09:03 Devastator: ..I don't want to play Hey hey.
21:09:08 Devastator: hey hey, NJW.
21:09:15 Devastator: was thinking about something else.
21:09:17 Devastator: sorry.
21:09:52 Devastator: New years was pretty good.
21:10:48 NJW: Good good, same here. 2020's looking bright. Or at least I'm feeling optimistic about it.
21:11:05 Devastator: Yeah.
21:12:41 NJW: Going to have to work quite hard for a bit, starting tomorrow, but I think that will be good for me. I need structure, too much free time and I waste it.
21:12:55 Devastator: Hah.
21:13:00 Devastator: new job?
21:14:05 Devastator: Also, you know solution to too much free time. Start running a game. ;-p
21:14:39 NJW: Oh yes, I plan to. Make sure that I spend as long as I can studying, to avoid the horror of updates~
21:15:12 NJW: Not a new job, just some revision and studying, stuff that needs to be done now so I'm in an ok position a few months down the line
21:15:39 Devastator: mmm, have fun.
21:15:42 Devastator: sounds a bit rough.
21:16:35 er: Hey NJW!
21:18:21 NJW: Shouldn't be too bad.
21:18:27 NJW: Hi ER. How's tricks?
21:21:49 er: ...Whisperling started a game involving urban maging and I'm quite enjoying it
21:22:29 Devastator: ..Oh,
21:22:31 Devastator: :-(
21:22:46 er: Also I had a good new years day lunch and I think it's trying to knock me out at work.
21:22:49 Devastator: so it started?
21:23:09 er: It started before I joined.
21:23:25 er: Same day he posted it, I think.
21:23:54 Devastator: Sent him a message but haven't gotten my second turn yet.
21:24:10 Devastator: thought it was just taking a bit between sessions.
21:24:29 NJW: Ebony does look exciting. Very atmospheric. What are your characters?
21:25:46 er: Another Alice. So far I've run away, stolen something important, created a fire elemental plant, burned something important, and run away again.
21:25:58 Devastator: dunno, haven't recieved a char sheet yet.
21:26:07 er: Oh, and got some advice from Odin.
21:26:14 er: Namely: RUN
21:26:53 er: Seems to be no sheet, just a name and nebulous backstory which you can define as you go.
21:26:54 NJW: usually good advice
21:27:43 Devastator: mmm
21:27:50 NJW: interesting. So are the players all human?
21:27:59 Devastator: Did you show up in the middle of a bloody ritual?
21:28:52 er: Yes.
21:29:02 Devastator: mmm, so same for everyone, then.
21:29:06 Devastator: unless I showed up later.
21:30:39 NJW: Afraid I'm going to have to scram, something came up at home. See y'all later!
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21:31:22 Devastator: ok
22:45:36 er: Heay kuf, someone can wield a machinegun!
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