00:01:41 er:
Dev really liked popularity gimmick. He still talks about it. ;p
00:03:36 NJW: Right. And that crazy healer that got himself zombified was really into the idea of horrifying autosurgery.
Syv had fun just being the guns guy, even though that was inefficient, as by the end he had enough magical resources to fly at the speed of sound.
00:03:41 er: Maybe I should run a popularity gimmick game for him privately...
00:06:46 NJW: I'm actually thinking of doing a sequel to Coven. One in which people come up with their own gimmicks at the start, like they often did, and the way their character progresses is built around that.
00:07:26 NJW: Same setting, but some other magical organisation. I think still in London, it's the city I know best, and lends itself to modern magic.
00:10:09 er: I'll just make a generic witch whose gimmick is the old mechanics~
00:11:18 NJW: I think I'd let coven members continue to give me their strategies, provided they weren't playing in the new game.
Dev might appreciate that, for example.
00:11:29 NJW: Were you alive when I abandoned Coven, by the way?
00:15:28 er: When it ended I was a literal little girl
00:15:42 er: With a deodorant stick wand
00:17:11 er: Two of them in quick succession with the
00:17:57 er: I really thought the pyromancy flame could eat that alchemy stuff, btw :v
00:18:40 er: Slightly mad about 2/3 of those deaths, and I've mostly forgotten the other one.
00:18:49 NJW: To be honest, that was a pretty fair assumption.
00:19:11 NJW: It was only because the guy was the big boss, and had pretty much all the loot from the mission.
00:19:27 er: Trusting drug dude wasn't, but it was in-character~
00:20:12 NJW: On the plus side, it was a good introduction to the different types of undead
00:21:24 er: In the immortal words of engi, "how'd that plan work out for ya, dummy?"
00:25:16 NJW: Well, I'm off to bed. Goodnight, and say hi to
Dev for me if you see him
00:26:24 Piecewise: Seems familiar but I don't remember
00:32:42 er: Not the TF2 with mechs, sadly
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02:00:13 er: ...I'd imagine you'd be happy if he started a new game in Coven's setting?
02:04:05 Piecewise: I saw a game at the book store that looked interesting, but looking it up brings up nothing but pieces like this
02:04:18 Piecewise: makes me highly suspicious
02:04:39 Piecewise: Guess I'll read the rules online see what its like
02:07:06 Devastator: Of course, sounds good.
02:07:11 Devastator: although it'd be hard giving up Nan.
02:07:25 Devastator: gotta explain things to him.
02:07:56 Devastator: Nah, it's a shitty storytelling game. Fun, but nothing special.
02:08:59 Devastator: That looks like an incredibly shitty puff piece, too.
02:18:03 er: Sounds like he'd let you play Nan the same way he let
PW play Sand
02:18:27 Piecewise: I'm curious about the mechanics
02:18:38 Piecewise: because I'll be honest, there are few RPGS or board games I really like
02:18:46 Piecewise: but almost everything has something worth scavenging
02:20:23 Devastator:
PW didn't play sand.
02:20:29 Devastator: well, unless I'm wrong.
02:21:09 er: Brother, the only RPG mechanics you need is a six sided die
02:21:17 Devastator: Brother, can you spare a die?
02:21:53 er: Roll me a 4 or a 5 because I'm down on my luck, neither
02:22:33 Devastator: random.org says.. 5
02:23:54 Piecewise: I beat Coven in 3 turns
02:24:10 Piecewise: And I'll shank anyone who says otherwise
02:25:08 er: Did you get any witch x eldritch god smut out of it?
02:25:33 Piecewise: Nah,
NJW promised me things but didn't deliver
02:25:54 Piecewise: I guess you lot never managed to find me and hubby or whatever
02:27:50 Piecewise: But I'm a better flake than him
02:28:21 Devastator: yeah, you guys were in India, IIRC.
02:55:17 Devastator: If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck
02:55:22 Devastator: it's probably a shadow.
03:07:56 Piecewise: I think thats how the saying goes, yeah
03:14:09 er: "What kind of setting is your RP game set in?" "It's complicated."
03:15:28 er: You've got fantasy, sci-fi, historical fiction, then stuff made by guys with too much imagination and not enough filter~
03:18:42 er: And a few of those settings which are weird but manage to hide it from first glance or are just popular enough to be normalized.
03:18:55 Piecewise: I believe that video is the real life example of a "strange mood" in DF
03:19:06 er: Like Elder Scrolls or Star Wars
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03:20:27 Elastic_Ridicule: oh yeah, twice the
ER
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03:20:41 Elastic_Ridicule: wait, come back! D:
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03:50:11 Devastator: what shold I play if no Nan?
04:04:25 Piecewise: Fun fact, Nan and Ban are me and my sister's initials
04:05:06 Piecewise: And if I marry my girlfriend and she keeps her whole name, her initials will be "ANON"
04:05:13 ER: also, would a popularity gimmick singleplayer game be interesting?
04:09:07 ER: posted a dumb joke somewhere and the very next second got two likes. :P
04:16:51 ER: ...Well, I don't feel like writing FMD stuff down, do I'm probably going to go to bed.
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04:21:49 ER: well stop it, that's emerald robin's job
04:22:16 IronyOwl: speaking of which, do you have any concrete catgirl plans?
04:22:16 ER: or maybe keep doing it because we're the two evil orgs and logically should be allied? hmm.
04:22:33 IronyOwl: Happytime Atrocities Inc isn't evil, merely... results focused
04:23:03 IronyOwl: you can't just keep all the muscle to yourself!
04:23:19 ER: invest a lot of resources into each unit and try my best to keep them from dying
04:23:19 IronyOwl: I am curious how well it scales, though
04:23:40 IronyOwl: I wonder if you'd want to research/outsource some kind of regenerative capabilities for that
04:23:54 IronyOwl: might be a good use for kaiju guts
04:26:54 Piecewise: Take your best shot
ER. But make it count. Because if I get up, I eat you.
04:30:01 Piecewise: I mean that literally
04:31:07 IronyOwl: you ever get that list to
dev?
04:33:16 IronyOwl: don't forget to share, I'm curious how this is going to go down
04:34:56 Piecewise: I'm writing a document
04:43:48 Piecewise: I'm up to 8 possible methods
04:44:56 IronyOwl: almost like you've contemplated how to harvest God before
04:45:03 IronyOwl: which reminds me I still need to see Eva
04:45:55 Piecewise: Eva is a basically "Mecha child soldier nightmare"
04:46:21 Piecewise: mostly its just a realistic take on how a 12 year old would behave when thrown into life or death battles without training
04:46:33 Piecewise: Don't watch the netflix dub
04:46:38 Piecewise: or sub for that matter
04:46:53 Piecewise: Also not the rebuild movies
04:47:03 Piecewise: they're technically sequels, maybe
04:47:11 Piecewise: also the first two are good and the third is baaaaad
04:48:40 Piecewise: Also, when everyone starts saying "Congratulations" thats when you switch over to the movie "End of Evangelion"
04:49:03 IronyOwl: because the last few episodes got weird?
04:52:57 Piecewise: No because the last few episodes don't exist. They ran out of money and just ended the series with everyone giving a round of applause
04:53:11 Piecewise: The studio got death threats after that
04:53:29 Piecewise: But they used the money from the series to fund a movie that was basically the intended end of the series
05:33:49 IronyOwl: going angel fishing, eh?
05:34:05 IronyOwl: AHAHAHA Christcloning, that's fantastic
05:34:25 IronyOwl: I like trying to reverse engineer divinity from manflesh
05:34:53 IronyOwl: odds of androids not going mad mining old god flesh strikes me as low, but probably the best option we have
05:35:55 IronyOwl: aaaaand we're back to torture sex dungeon
05:36:06 IronyOwl: always knew ol' Bill would head back to his roots eventually
05:38:20 IronyOwl: angelfishing and dimensional tears are probably my favorites, though old god mining is a pretty cool idea if you can find one
05:39:47 Piecewise: Technically that idea about using pain to find divinity is the subject of a movie
05:43:32 IronyOwl: what a weird sounding movie
05:46:12 Piecewise: Mining old gods is kind of like that scene from Chernobyl where they have to get the graphite off the roof.
05:46:46 IronyOwl: I have not, though I've been kinda tempted
05:46:53 IronyOwl: seen a scene and it looked kind of interesting
05:47:20 IronyOwl: the dimensional thing is vaguely reminiscent of The Mist, and there's a quest in Neverwinter Nights involving harvesting angel blood
05:51:22 Piecewise: Condensing souls into a solid matter could be fun too
05:51:44 IronyOwl: I wonder if you'd get flesh or crystal or what, though
05:51:53 IronyOwl: maybe just ectoplasm amber?
05:57:49 Piecewise: But it would be fun to find out~
05:59:02 Piecewise: I'll know I've done my job if at some point someone in the thread says "Look, I know we have the Kaiju problem and all...but I think we have to do something about Bill first..."
06:00:05 IronyOwl: truly there can be no higher aspiration for a man of science
06:00:11 IronyOwl: and/or of robot hookers
06:02:29 Piecewise: Only once I have transcended to main threat will I consider the game beaten.
06:02:38 Piecewise: The spirit of Sand rides again
06:03:22 IronyOwl: oh, and I remember there was a B movie I've forgotten the name of involving the blood of christ being used to fight demons
06:03:46 IronyOwl: it was actually kind of a cool concept, there was a holy flask filled with Christ's blood, but then the bearer would bleed themselves into the bottle to replenish it
06:03:58 IronyOwl: actual movie was Cryptkeeper tier
06:11:01 Piecewise: Sand as in Sand the Witch, my character in Coven who beat the game in 3 turns by grabbing an artifact of an old god and then becoming his wife
06:11:24 Piecewise: Became so op in 3 turns as to literally get kicked out and become an NPC
06:11:42 Piecewise: It was some fine work, if I do say so
06:12:40 Piecewise: Anyways, I'm gonna head out. Got a long drive tomorrow. If
dev comes by, throw my list in his face and make preening noises in my stead
06:12:55 Piecewise: Tell him the options will only get worse
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08:10:57 Devastator: None of those actually work.
08:11:03 Devastator: but many of those are pretty interesting.
08:11:46 Devastator: 1 isn't possible, but if you're specific about what you're looking for, you might be able to find some kinda substitute.
08:11:57 Devastator: 2 needs a more specific goal.
08:12:17 Devastator: 3 can work, but it's a multi-step process.
08:13:29 Devastator: 7 is fun, but completely irrelevant. Mad scientists have an unlimited supply of volunteers, and you can fleshwarp them already.
08:14:03 Devastator: 8 doesn't actually work as designed. There are no great old ones on this planet, plot reasons.
08:14:21 Devastator: 9 you can do similar things, but multi-step process.
08:14:26 Devastator: Also, don't try 9 until EVENTS.
08:14:38 Devastator: 10 is more profitable than 9.
08:15:18 Devastator: 11 is impossible. Souls have no physicality on this plane of existance. Combining it with multi-dimensional shenanigans is inefficient.
08:15:22 Devastator: well, depends on what angle.
08:15:45 Devastator: 12 is fun, but you need to be specific about your goals.
08:15:58 Devastator: not just "X" Cover as much as possible.
08:17:14 Devastator: 14 is mostly irrelevant. You are perfectly capable of doing fleshwarping. Finding some obscure starting material is more for fun flavor purposes. However, it's not an invalid method of describing progress; you can make a better product by starting by doing that in step one.
08:17:58 Devastator: ..but that applies to most any similar process. Starting with something rare and expensive can improve the product, either equivalent to a turn of work or by spending money on base material.
08:18:28 Devastator: nobody's done this yet, but you can just buy or acquire a large tiger say, and warp from that for some advantage.
08:18:48 Devastator: Nature tried to do that with gigantic wasps, but those aren't things that exist, so went with 'make' for her turn.
08:19:17 Devastator: 15 is similar to 12 and 13.
08:20:18 Devastator: In general you are pefectly capable of acquiring or manufacturing godflesh, but I won't agree to an interpretation that involves the existance of a being that can save the world for you. That's your job.
08:21:05 Devastator: If you are clear enough about your goals there are many viable methods to creating a useful item like godflesh. Do consider however, if it's better or more effective than just using kaiju flesh, which is more common and readily available at much less effort.
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