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01:03:42 er: How shitty are you feeling compared to your baseline for feeling shitty?
01:05:00 sy: Right now? Honestly I feel better than I've felt in the last two months. Tired, but happy.
01:06:12 er: Just had some food. Slept for most of today.
01:06:44 sy: Feeling rested, or worse for it?
01:09:01 er: I feel... normal. Normal for it.
01:09:36 er: Yesterday was such a slow day at work that it made me tired from inactivity, though.
01:11:49 sy: Well, it's good that you're feeling decent.
01:11:59 sy: How's work been going, in general?
01:18:13 Devastator: I suppose you want your debrifing stuff?
01:19:11 Devastator: made some progress in fixing stuff.
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01:19:43 Devastator: glad you're feeling better.
01:19:48 sy: Hello again, Emerging Request.
01:20:13 sy: I don't think I need any more stuff for debreifing, unless you were just gonna hand me free info?
01:20:45 sy: I was just gonna look over the results carefully, and try to estimate what the stats of the Kaiju are, and how we should proceed with countering them.
01:22:29 Devastator: well, you get bonus info, so if you just have QUESTIONS I'd be ok with that.
01:25:33 sy: Well I won't turn down info! I don't really have questions, beyond what I'm obviously trying to figure out. Stuff like "What were the stats on that rocket launcher? How does the roll system work?" etc. :P
01:25:49 Devastator: not gonna tell you that.
01:25:55 Devastator: also making at least one small change.
01:30:55 Devastator: just better formalization of kaiju melee and a little tweak for future stuff.
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01:32:22 IronyOwl: just popped in to ask about the status update :x
01:32:23 ER: what is delicious moth doing here
01:32:24 Devastator: up for watching Army of Darkness tonight?
01:32:31 Devastator: I'll see if I can do that before bed, so late night.
01:33:25 sy: Do you need a torrent link for it, Irony?
01:38:40 Devastator: but yeah, I want to do the turn soon.
01:38:44 Devastator: tonight preferably.
01:42:32 sy: I can prioritize that if you want.
01:43:23 Devastator: everyone has orders.
01:50:52 IronyOwl: if we're watching army of darkness via synchronized download, yeah I'll probably need a torrent for it
01:51:30 IronyOwl: as for the turn, I just meant the end of turn updates on money/review/etc
01:51:37 Devastator: yeah, I'll have those up tonight.
01:52:05 Devastator: no change in income, btw.
01:53:12 IronyOwl: I'm drowning in cash anyway
01:53:13 Devastator: sorry. Every other month.
01:53:47 Devastator: you get your income, yeah.
01:53:52 sy: How much credit did I even get from my part in the one K-kill?
01:53:52 Devastator: but no income adjustment.
01:54:06 sy: I feel like the infantry kill probably stole the show there.
01:54:27 IronyOwl: I believe
dev said killing blows don't provide any bonus?
01:54:29 Devastator: you get the same credit calculation as everyone else.
01:54:35 Devastator: and yeah, that's what I told you, IO.
01:54:49 IronyOwl: political secrets are best secrets
01:55:02 Devastator: you're not the only one with extra info.
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02:02:03 Devastator: agg, it's another robot!
02:31:42 Devastator: is it quarter-life yet?
02:31:59 sy: You play a woman's hands. Meh.
02:32:04 IronyOwl: haven't heard anything about it
02:32:13 ER: I always wanted to be a woman's hand though
02:35:08 IronyOwl: I assume it's a VR thing?
02:35:23 IronyOwl: that aspect looks amazing, at least
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02:35:35 sy: But yeah, maybe if it's said to be awesome I'll look into it, but otherwise the only VR games I'm interested in are Superhot and Beat Saber.
02:35:48 ER: gimme $1000 for valve's fancy gloves and goggles and I'll be all over that game
02:36:06 ER: plus some for PC upgrades, I guess
02:36:20 Devastator: gimme $1000 for valve's fancy gloves and goggles and I'll spend the money on something I like instead. ;-p
02:38:08 sy: So are we watching a movie tonight?
02:39:16 sy: Maybe, uh, hurry up about that?
02:39:20 MidJag: Also I'm dissapointed in the lack of the rest of you in that new Half Life
02:39:38 sy: You're disappointed that we're not in the game?
02:39:45 Devastator: yeah, you know I can't do VR.
02:39:51 sy: (I'm genuinely unsure what you meant)
02:40:21 MidJag: I'm dissapointed you lack a physcial body and mostly seem to be a pair of hands
02:41:05 sy: Well, there's no real good way to do the rest of the body.
02:41:17 ER: yeah, I'm not entirely convinced that hands only is the right approach
02:41:21 sy: Yes, Boneworks *does* look awesome.
02:41:21 MidJag: Boneworks seems to do it well.
02:41:36 sy: Boneworks is also very unusual.
02:41:53 MidJag: Yeah, but it's Valve and they have had a billion years.
02:41:56 sy: It's way way easier to do hands-only, clearly.
02:42:03 MidJag: I was just expecting more I suppose.
02:42:46 ER: maybe valve will add in arms later in development? :V
02:43:07 IronyOwl: introducing forearm DLC
02:43:13 IronyOwl: followed by bicep DLC
02:43:21 sy: I think the best they'll do is gloves.
02:43:21 MidJag: I mean it is Valve, they might just postpone it indefinetly.
02:43:26 IronyOwl: shin DLC (bit buggy tbh)
02:43:43 sy: Pretty sure the Steam page was advertising weapon skins.
02:44:04 sy: So you can buy the polka-dot glock you always wanted.
02:44:32 sy: I'm gonna just not click on that, so as to avoid feeling bad about not having it.
02:44:48 ER: more things to use my bandwidth on other than torrenting!~
02:47:38 sy: Agh, just as I starting making foof
02:51:35 IronyOwl: so what is boneworks, other than VR?
02:52:15 MidJag: It's like a really cool physics puzzle shooter thing.
02:52:27 Piecewise: It looks like what halflife 3 should have been
02:52:52 sy: I think it's less physics puzzle, more engine demo.
02:53:03 Piecewise: Its a full game though
Sy?
02:53:22 sy: Everything I've heard about it, at least, people were talking about all the ways they innovated and did stuff fancy.
02:53:36 sy: I've heard nothing about the actual game.
02:53:47 sy: Just seen people fucking around in a big warehouse full of junk.
02:53:54 Piecewise: Its a first person shooter
02:54:08 sy: ...Well duh. It's VR and has guns.
02:54:31 IronyOwl: gonna corner the VR RTS genre
02:54:32 Piecewise: I mean you could just call the original doom "People fucking around in labs and shooting stuff"
02:54:43 Devastator: doom let you move fast.
02:55:17 sy: Food done, I can watch movie while eating. Just eat over the expensive electronics, like a caveman.
02:55:21 Piecewise: This one lets you shove enemies and bully them
02:55:57 sy: I mean the video I saw, the entire level was basically just a big room with some crates and basic obstacles around it, and a collection of items.
02:56:10 Piecewise: did you look at the new trailer?
02:56:14 ER: the trailer
MJ linked looks more like a game
02:56:19 sy: There was a side path that was a dark industrial corridor, but it was still very generic.
02:56:28 sy: (
sy) I'm gonna just not click on that, so as to avoid feeling bad about not having it.
02:56:53 IronyOwl: is it bad or desirable?
02:57:03 IronyOwl: I'm not gonna pretend it can't be both, but it probably shouldn't be
02:57:21 Devastator: ok, got movie ready.
02:57:22 sy: Anyway, it's kinda... they *do* seem to have innovated a lot in terms of the engine, so I really don't expect the rest of the game to be particularly special.
02:57:58 ER: I think that VR is still at the point where engine innovation *makes* the rest of the game special
02:58:22 sy: Then you're missing my point. :P
02:59:03 ER: in a few, I still have to watch the rest of this juicy trailer~
03:05:22 Devastator: someone do the countdown.
03:06:14 sy: because the universe is limited to the English-speaking part of the Earth.
03:06:45 Devastator: Il ike the fat guy.
03:07:06 Piecewise: The good part of the universe speaks english,
Sy
03:07:15 ER: yeah yeah we don't need your life story :D
03:07:27 sy: What about the Japanese part, weeb?
03:07:32 Devastator: "blood makes shitty ink"
03:07:43 MidJag: I feel like that would just be impracitcal to write in blood.
03:07:44 Piecewise: Japan was never good
03:07:55 Piecewise: Its like...chaotic horny
03:08:14 MidJag: The expressions make this movie
03:08:22 Piecewise: I think its the film
03:08:27 Devastator: it's like if Jim Carey had talents.
03:08:36 Piecewise: Unless this was all just recorded on his face
03:09:30 Devastator: ..wait, you don't get that.
03:10:07 Devastator: that's more horses than I'd expect in a low-budget movie.
03:10:23 Devastator: Ahh, the beard of wisdom.
03:10:55 Devastator: they really don't waste time, do they?
03:10:56 sy: Didn't they have a budget by now?
03:11:26 MidJag: It looks like they have a budget now rather than whatever they could carry into an abanonded cabin
03:11:32 Devastator: I'm waiting for the day that wristwatch falls off.
03:11:36 sy: Eh, this hasn't felt very fast so far.
03:11:40 Devastator: he's gonna have a hell of a time putting that back on.
03:11:43 Devastator: it's been four mintues.
03:12:01 MidJag: It's the opposite of the surgeon simulator watch
dev, it's fused with his hand.
03:12:12 sy: Yeah and we've only just finished with the recap.
03:12:26 sy: Though it seems like there was a retcon already.
03:12:33 Piecewise: Evil dead 2 had a budget of 3.5 million
03:12:36 Devastator: I admit it isn't quite as quick starting as Evil Dead 2.
03:12:44 Devastator: but that set the all-time record.
03:12:46 Piecewise: army of darkness had a budget of 11 million
03:13:20 Piecewise: Evil dead 2 only made about 5.2 million
03:13:25 MidJag: I'm sorta suprised by both of those numbers, and yet also not.
03:13:26 Devastator: that's actually something in what was this, 1986?
03:13:35 Devastator: What was Evil Dead 1?
03:14:21 Devastator: what's the budget of starcrash?
03:14:32 MidJag: Probably a decent bit honestlly.
03:14:35 Devastator: I couldn't find it, if I remember.
03:15:44 MidJag: You eat that bread random old lady
03:16:03 IronyOwl: no popcorn, gotta eat something
03:16:10 sy: Knew it was gonna be a blood geyser.
03:16:11 Devastator: no wonder everyone wants to watch.
03:16:29 MidJag: They probably sell cloaks for the splash zone
03:16:49 IronyOwl: this is BY FAR the most entertaining thing these peasants have seen all week
03:16:51 Devastator: (the camera move there.)
03:17:55 ER: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY
03:18:05 MidJag: Do we get to see a rancor now?
03:18:33 IronyOwl: maybe he likes it down here
03:18:38 IronyOwl: lots of fleshbags to laugh at
03:18:57 IronyOwl: pit hag's taking her time with this one
03:19:03 IronyOwl: juiced the other guy in like eight seconds
03:19:06 Devastator: gotta give the crowd a show.
03:20:32 MidJag: oh hey, maybe that's the dude who juices people
03:20:32 IronyOwl: wow there's a lot of weird shit down here
03:20:50 sy: Belts totally work like that.
03:21:05 Devastator: they do when you're ash.
03:21:18 sy: ...Why not just grab the chain?
03:21:33 sy: That looked like a 5, not a 6.
03:21:47 MidJag: I feel like a 5 would just be grabbing the chain
03:21:59 IronyOwl: because you saw him not want to look but then look
03:22:03 Piecewise: I'm not sure how you enjoyed it but ok
03:22:19 sy: I just have bad taste, don't worry.
03:22:44 Devastator: "I grant you a +4 bonus based on circumstance."
03:22:46 IronyOwl: taking it out on the intern
03:23:07 IronyOwl: when you toss em in the geyser pit and he kicks everything's ass I guess you gotta do what he says
03:23:18 Piecewise:
Dev that sounds very sexual out of context
03:23:31 MidJag: I mean it's a controversial way to choose a king, but it's their tradition.
03:24:19 MidJag: I just realized this is the B movie version of a confederate yankee in king arthurs court
03:24:55 Devastator: he put a shell in after firing the first one.
03:25:31 IronyOwl: these people sure know how to treat an unbalanced murderer
03:25:52 sy: He hasn't murdered anyone here yet.
03:26:05 IronyOwl: he's still very good at murder
03:26:08 MidJag: I guess the hag counts?
03:26:45 IronyOwl: this really is a fantastic movie
03:26:52 sy: I don't think it counts as murder if your victim is creepy enough
03:27:57 ER: real witches carry their own shotguns
03:28:08 Devastator: Listen to the beard.
03:28:13 Devastator: You know the drill.
03:28:35 Devastator: He brought a bunch.
03:28:50 ER: necronomicon has a spell, summon shell
03:29:10 IronyOwl: I'd say prosthetics probably don't work that way but supposedly da vinci or someone had a very crude robot
03:29:13 Devastator: now that's how you do a montage.
03:29:40 MidJag: I'm pretty sure some dude in the medival times made a prostheic hand so that he could still hold a sword.
03:29:57 sy: "I INSIST THAT I HAVE NO FRIENDLY INTENTIONS HERE, I AM PURELY SELF-INTERESTED."
03:30:22 MidJag: To be fair he did make a mechanical hand out of like blasksmiths tools.
03:30:34 ER: punch ash in the face a bunch of times
03:30:46 IronyOwl: face punching is the only language he knows
03:31:22 ER: and from now on the movie turns into monty python
03:31:31 IronyOwl: since when was it not
03:31:45 sy: Oh, is this where that phrase comes from?
03:32:02 Devastator: it won't come up again.
03:32:14 sy: I've heard it before somewhere.
03:32:33 IronyOwl: pretty healthy trees for being in a haunted wood
03:32:47 MidJag: Turns out evil is a great fertilizer
03:32:49 IronyOwl: maybe the deadites only hate all forms of animal life
03:32:53 sy: It's like the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone
03:33:06 sy: The deadites aren't nearly as bad as humans.
03:33:25 IronyOwl: that's ash's luck alright
03:33:50 MidJag: There's something awesome about a dude in medival garb carrying a chainsaw
03:34:36 Devastator: I'm constantly amazed at how good this is at setting a scene in ten seconds and two quick shots.
03:34:51 IronyOwl: yeah it's great at just having at it
03:36:33 ER: not bad as far as random encounters go
03:36:36 MidJag: I like how a nail in his toe hurts worse then literally making bacon with his face
03:36:51 Devastator: maybe it wasn't that hot yet.
03:37:11 sy: He had to scrap his face off
03:37:15 IronyOwl: I like how the little hims are just as much jackasses as the big one
03:37:32 Devastator: Ash has good pain tolerance.
03:37:49 IronyOwl: stomach acid = not fatal, boiling-ish water = fatal
03:38:18 MidJag: His reactions are just so fucking good.
03:38:42 sy: How did they even DO that shot?
03:39:11 MidJag: I'm more curious how much acid they took before coming up with that shot.
03:39:12 IronyOwl: wait but the evil one was on the metal hand side
03:39:33 Devastator: no, it was his left.
03:39:37 IronyOwl: by deadite standards not eating everyone's faces is pretty goody two shoes
03:39:58 Devastator: and yes, ash's alignment is 'gun'
03:40:31 Devastator: ahh, showing off the rapid gravedigging skills again.
03:40:34 MidJag: I like how at this point Ash isn't even phased by this.
03:41:06 IronyOwl: how nice and/or insulting
03:41:07 MidJag: It's just like yup, had to cut up myself that grew from me, guess it's tuesday.
03:41:09 sy: Fighting himself is old hat by now.
03:41:17 Devastator: Yeah, he does do that a lot.
03:41:27 IronyOwl: best costar is himself
03:41:39 ER: he always wins fight with himself, he has the expereince on his side!
03:42:03 sy: Nah, he only wins about half the time.
03:42:41 Devastator: fighting himself? No problem.
03:43:14 Devastator: that's a hell of a trap, IMO.
03:43:16 IronyOwl: not his first time being sucked into another dimension
03:43:39 MidJag: These effects are honestlly kinda great
03:44:24 IronyOwl: why wouldn't they be?
03:44:29 IronyOwl: everything else has been a trap
03:44:30 Devastator: the not-trapped one is the Necronomicon.
03:44:40 Devastator: arguably that's actually the case.
03:44:49 IronyOwl: swearing vengeance on a bat-book
03:44:59 MidJag: He neeeds to start putting his metal hand in first
03:45:13 IronyOwl: now the funny part here
03:45:26 IronyOwl: is that if he hadn't spent a full day hiding in a windmill and being punched by clones
03:45:34 IronyOwl: he might have remembered it just fine
03:45:52 MidJag: at this point most of ashs brain is scar tissue
03:46:25 IronyOwl: "everything's cool" rofl
03:46:50 IronyOwl: how many people did he indirectly kill by getting uppity with words?
03:46:53 ER: "oh for god's sake he forgot didn't he."
03:46:59 MidJag: beard is just like damnit he didn't say the words did he.
03:47:01 IronyOwl: and how many did the sage kill by not just writing it down?
03:47:02 Devastator: "That fucking jackass."
03:47:13 Devastator: I don't know if you can write down magic words.
03:47:28 IronyOwl: what's the ink gonna do about it?
03:47:53 Devastator: I mean, this is about an uppity magic book.
03:48:32 IronyOwl: guess he's the serious veteran of this buddy cop duo
03:48:36 sy: Most of this is just hallucinations, horse don't care.
03:49:19 ER: welcome back ya fucked it up
03:49:33 IronyOwl: YAY HE'S BACK now what the fuck did you do
03:51:52 MidJag: All the punches you recived
03:52:24 sy: I'm sure the army of darkness will get to it soon enough.
03:52:45 IronyOwl: not a lotta hustle there lady
03:53:09 IronyOwl: would arrowing her be any worse than what the thing will do to her?
03:53:20 ER: stole a sword to point dramatically at the sky
03:53:33 Devastator: that's what swords are for.
03:53:47 MidJag: I love that the skellies talk
03:53:53 MidJag: Not enough undead do that.
03:56:46 sy: "And my mustache', in his case.
03:56:55 IronyOwl: lots grand facial hair in this castle
03:57:00 IronyOwl: the one thing the dead don't have
03:57:44 MidJag: Man, Ash has bad luck with ladies.
03:57:55 IronyOwl: ash has bad luck in general
03:58:07 Devastator: Yeah, this is about a 00 on the random encounter table.
03:58:37 Devastator: Have fun corning it by hand. ;-p
03:59:03 IronyOwl: behold as a walmart employee teaches medieval peasants how to use a spear
03:59:05 sy: Why the hell is HE teaching medieval soldiers how to use a spear?
03:59:12 ER: time to kill a bunch of skeles
03:59:21 Devastator: IIRC, the characterization of Ash is that he is utter shit at absolutely everything except killing deadites.
03:59:23 MidJag: Honestlly, I could tottally belive that you can make gunpowder with a chem textbook.
03:59:30 sy: ...Are they skeletons riding horses?
03:59:38 IronyOwl: that is a very good question
04:00:19 ER: they couldn't get any dead horses for filming~
04:00:26 IronyOwl: they sold us out for a few carrots!
04:00:42 Devastator: I can't think of any other work that has skeletons riding living horses.
04:00:45 ER: skeletons are lighter and give kinder words
04:01:21 sy: "Look at all the skeletons we made for this movie!"
04:01:34 Devastator: I like the groom holding the horse from the nervous actor there.
04:02:38 ER: that's going to go wrong the moment one of the archers rolls a critfail
04:02:44 MidJag: This scene is just fun.
04:03:38 Devastator: These guys had a productive couple of days.
04:03:45 MidJag: You can tell the extras had fun with this.
04:03:49 sy: Perfect opponent for mr chainsaw
04:04:06 Devastator: that last set of four the one on the right was smiling big.
04:05:20 IronyOwl: that thing punched right through
04:05:30 Devastator: lotta momentum on that first swing.
04:06:00 Devastator: next time, spring for the portcullis. ;-p
04:06:12 MidJag: Skelies can move faster they have less air resistance :P
04:07:01 ER: technicals are god weapons confirmed
04:07:09 IronyOwl: it's even got a flag on it, that's brilliant
04:07:32 Devastator: "The goggles make it much faster!
04:07:44 Devastator: (No winshield anymore.. so.. it actually makes sense..)
04:07:51 MidJag: I'm half surpised they didn't put flames on the side
04:07:56 ER: you take 7d6 psychic damage
04:07:57 sy: Not the first girlfriend he's butchered.
04:08:25 MidJag: That is a chill ass horse
04:08:46 ER: that's a QTE if I've ever seen one
04:09:18 Devastator: that's a fair number of dudes.
04:09:27 sy: Heh, dudes running alongside the charging cavalry
04:09:37 ER: "SO glad we didn't kill that dude."
04:09:40 MidJag: Jeez, was half this budget just spent on horses and extras?
04:09:52 Devastator: that's a set with twenty horses running around and buildings behind them.
04:10:03 Devastator: did they build all that?
04:10:22 IronyOwl: these derpy skeletons are just fantastic
04:10:40 ER: how much Int do skeletons get, like 7?
04:10:55 Devastator: I think it's no adjustment.
04:11:05 Devastator: but these ones are about that.
04:11:19 Devastator: yeah, gotta have skelly mages and what.
04:11:20 ER: smarter than zombies but not smart
04:11:40 MidJag: Man, Ash is really good at killing his girlfriends
04:11:40 IronyOwl: after wrecking his ride to not shred her, he stabs her anyway
04:11:56 MidJag: He wanted to make the breakup more personal
04:12:01 sy: 5 int doesn't allow any int-based spells, I don't think...
04:12:04 Devastator: he's about to get ashed.
04:12:48 IronyOwl: two swords = two fighting power
04:13:11 Devastator: yeah, having your hand go evil makes you ambidextrous.
04:14:09 MidJag: Hahaha, what is it with Ash and setting everyone on fire.
04:14:48 sy: Skeletons don't seem to be very good at anatomy, they keep talking about gizzards.
04:15:02 Devastator: apparently people are a type of bird.
04:15:25 MidJag: I mean once you lose your organs you lose track of which fleshys have what
04:15:46 Devastator: skeletons retreating?
04:16:09 MidJag: I love the skelly screaming
04:16:35 Devastator: 1992, breaking new ground in storytelling history.
04:16:37 MidJag: Was not expecitng her to be alive honestlly
04:17:02 Devastator: Pretty good or pretty lucky to still be on your horse at this point in the battle.
04:17:13 IronyOwl: unless he was just in the back
04:17:19 Devastator: also a possibility.
04:17:28 Devastator: "So which one of us gets to be king?"
04:17:31 IronyOwl: I mean, they legitimately might have been side scouts/screeners
04:17:49 IronyOwl: so not to question his motives
04:18:00 IronyOwl: but what does he have back home that's better than a girlfriend?
04:18:10 IronyOwl: other than indoor plumbing, I mean
04:18:18 Devastator: does he keep the horse?
04:18:26 IronyOwl: wait this is also a good question
04:19:06 ER: his place is here, at s-mart
04:19:26 Devastator: Also, what the hell is his last name?
04:19:31 Devastator: I can never remember.
04:19:33 sy: Does he still have a metal hand?
04:19:33 IronyOwl: his place is here indeed
04:19:44 Devastator: amazing timing there,
sy.
04:20:53 ER: witches: mostly bullet proof
04:20:56 MidJag: Ash is gonna be stuck here isn't he because he can't rember the words.
04:20:56 MidJag: hahaha, I like how he still has the metal hand and no one questions it
04:21:04 IronyOwl: nobody questions any of this
04:21:12 IronyOwl: they're just standing around going yeah, that guy totally shot that hag thing
04:21:18 sy: He's just the weird guy who wears a metal glove everywhere.
04:21:37 ER: anyway, hail to the king, baby
04:21:43 sy: I doubt there's laws about it, you totally could just wear a plate gauntlet everywhere.
04:21:58 Devastator: it's a fully-functional prosthetic.
04:21:59 sy: ...I kinda wish I had one so I could do that.
04:22:11 sy: Yeah but nobody would believe that.
04:22:16 ER: yeah, it would be a beautifully edgelord thing to do~
04:22:22 Devastator: after showing people it?
04:22:47 sy: Nah, why waste time on the obvious crazy guy?
04:23:32 IronyOwl: absolutely brilliant jackass-fest
04:23:51 ER: them skeletons had it coming
04:24:02 IronyOwl: they're still out there btw
04:24:03 sy: Next movie should have more guns.
04:24:11 IronyOwl: skeleton veterans of The Great Catastrophe
04:24:13 Devastator: I think next on the list is Terminator 2.
04:24:27 Devastator: should have more guns.
04:24:49 sy: It has flipcocking if nothing else.
04:25:13 MidJag: I love that Ashe's entire joy in life is just working at walmart and killing things.
04:25:13 MidJag: I mean maybe at this point that's just like a normal day to them?
04:25:13 MidJag: Like he just keeps breaking the glass on the display case and grabbing a new gun each time.
04:25:14 MidJag: That was a great movie. I'm glad we watched that.
04:25:16 MidJag: huh, apperently there was a different ending in the original.
04:25:38 IronyOwl: oh, what was the original ending?
04:25:52 Devastator: news to me. I saw this quite some time ago for the first time.
04:29:34 Devastator: "I prefer this ending because it stayed true to the evil dead series; which was dark and gritty. the other ending was a big fucken joke."
04:29:52 Devastator: the series is both.
04:30:48 sy: How could you even like the series without finding it funny?
04:31:43 Devastator: the first one is a lot more serious.
04:31:58 Devastator: that is a totally ash-type fuckup, though.
04:33:36 Devastator: yeah, it's not bad.
04:33:44 Devastator: depends on what they want the next sequel to be, really.
04:34:03 ER: I'd watch a post-apoc evil dead :P
04:34:23 MidJag: I keep getting conversatrions in like chunks.
04:34:34 Devastator: yeah, you seem to be chunking.
04:34:41 MidJag: Apperently there is a TV series sequel.
04:34:48 Devastator: I heard it sucks, though.
04:35:25 Devastator: sometimes you can only catch the lightning so many times.
04:35:39 Devastator: so, so easy to fuck up the concept.
04:36:00 Devastator: Probably ends as soon as everyone stops having fun making it.
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04:37:28 sy: Why are there so many people here lately?
04:37:41 Devastator: they came for k-com.
04:37:43 Devastator: and I talked about the movie.
04:37:44 ER: I think I linked mibbet once~
04:38:18 Devastator: I'll be doing the k-com turn soon.
04:39:41 IronyOwl: you missed a lot of shitty skellies
yotta
04:40:49 Yotta: I thought it was gonna be in a few more hours.
04:43:58 Devastator: I want to cool down with some surviv.io, but I'm lagging horrifically.
04:44:32 sy: Is sad that none of you like AoTTG.
04:44:52 Devastator: it's not bad, but it's just not my thing.
04:45:37 ER: my brain is insufficiently advanced
04:45:49 Devastator: just fist-killed a guy with an axe with a second-plus of lag and dropped.
04:47:54 Devastator: I'll find some other way.
04:48:15 MidJag: huh, so from what I'm reading the season 3 of the TV show is the only semi decent one.
04:49:15 MidJag: Reading further, it looks more like the critic has just been desisintized to shit from the first two.
04:49:52 sy: Yeah, I think I'll just watch one of those anime
piecewise keeps bugging me about.
04:50:00 sy: Or better yet, play Spiderman.
04:51:26 Devastator: attack on titan the game.
04:51:35 Devastator: a fangame where you jet around with magic backpacks.
04:51:41 sy: Attack on Titan the game is absolute crap.
04:51:42 MidJag: It's essentially a spiderman game, but with jetpack
04:52:02 sy: Attack on Titan Tribute Game is the best spiderman game ever made, though.
04:53:35 sy: It's kinda a completely unique racing/obstacle game that has a training mode that's just about killing fifty foot toddlers.
04:58:53 Devastator: although there's apparently a secret button that makes you win.
04:59:03 Devastator: what was that called?
04:59:14 sy: Are you talking about reel?
04:59:41 Devastator: Proving my point, yes.
05:01:28 sy: As far as killing titans, there's people who can get 100 kills in 600s without reeling, and I think the record with reel is like 148s. I can't come close to either no matter how I play, but then I am better than most randos. As far as racing... heh. It's certainly not a win button there.
05:12:50 MidJag: Hmm, do we have a date for termy 2?
05:13:44 MidJag: Because I'm probably going to be busy until winter break.
05:14:35 MidJag: Which is in like 2 and most of a week weeks or so i think.
05:15:08 sy: That's not all that long really.
05:15:40 MidJag: It's franklly terrifying, I have thanksgiving break this upcoming week, and then I have a week of school and then finals.
05:16:56 Devastator: we have thanksgiving a month earlier.
05:18:03 ER: how the fuck is there a mosquito here
05:18:29 MidJag: They can breed in the water in a bottle cap. They're durable fuckers.
05:24:15 MidJag: Also weird thing, apperently there used to be malaria in the midwest.
05:25:28 Devastator: don't forget the yellow fever.
05:25:56 MidJag: Yeah, that too. I still find that kinda crazy.
05:28:08 MidJag: And that fact that American only finished getting rid of malria in the 50's is crazier still.
05:29:51 Devastator: the curse of the tropics.
05:30:25 MidJag:
Dev just we don't live in the artic circle like you do doesn't mean it's the tropics :P
05:30:33 MidJag: Though
syv kinda does :P
05:31:30 sy: Hmm? I don't live in the tropics.
05:32:15 Devastator: I'm doing a specific statement about malaria, actually.
05:32:19 Devastator: curse of the tropics.
05:32:26 Devastator: and most of florida certainly qualifies.
05:32:54 sy: Odd thing is, the worst swarms of mosquitos I've ever seen were actually in Minnesota.
05:33:07 sy: Right on the border with Canada, too.
05:34:16 Devastator: there are shitloads of mosquitos in Canada.
05:34:47 MidJag: Yeah, there's a very specific kind of mosqitou that carries it, and it doens't like the kind of cold Canada has.
05:35:06 ER: the real kaiju was cold-adjusted mosquitos all along
05:35:18 sy: Though I could tell the mosquitoes up north were different. Had stripes, for one thing.
05:35:32 sy: They also were waaay worse at finding people.
05:36:15 Devastator: there's more than one breed of mosquito.
05:36:36 Devastator: I think there's 22 different species in Winnipeg, capital of the mosquito world.
05:37:00 sy: Yeah, but these were entirely different from the ones I was used to. It was just notable.
05:37:27 Devastator: I have seen striped ones.
05:38:06 MidJag: Oh yeah, I saw horseflys for the first time in person over the summer.
05:40:33 ER: we should release sunlight blocking particles into the air
05:40:44 ER: making the entire planet too cold for insects
05:41:15 MidJag: I like this plane, take them all with us.
05:42:37 ER:
syv will also die because he's secretly an ethral, but other than than it's good
05:42:54 MidJag: Man, I can not spell tonight
05:42:55 IronyOwl: man, showing an ever-expanding "mosquitos like it here" zone would be a way more persuasive global warming thing than just screaming about how we're all gonna die
05:43:03 sy: I don't like being away from warm blankets when it's 60 F, cold enough to screw over all the insects just sounds like hell
05:43:24 IronyOwl: yeah spoiler, humans are a fairly tropical species
05:43:45 IronyOwl: we CAN live absolutely anywhere, but we like it nice and warm for the most part
05:44:00 Devastator: but mosquitos like it cold too.
05:44:05 sy: Proof that
Dev is indeed a goblin and not a human.
05:44:11 ER: spoken like someone not decended from vikings :)
05:44:27 MidJag: I think
dev is just a polar bear that's disguised as goblin disgused as a human
05:44:49 sy: How good is polar bear eyesight? You might be onto something.
05:45:49 MidJag: There's a myth they have a poor eyesight.
05:46:18 MidJag: And there's a lot of controversy over wether or not that's true.
05:46:22 sy: Hmm, and from what I recall,
Dev voiced support for baby seal hunting...
05:46:32 sy: Yeah, I think you're onto something.
05:46:46 ER: polar bears would be against humans stealing their prey though
05:47:00 Devastator: I do! They're overpopulating like mad, and the most sustainable ones to kill are the babies.
05:47:11 Devastator: Not that you'll hear that.
05:47:30 MidJag: See,
Dev just wants their tasty blubber for himself.
05:49:31 sy: Nah I totes believe you about the seals
05:49:46 MidJag: Yeah, I could see it honestlly.
05:49:55 sy: Nothing wrong with killing babies in particular, they're most likely to die anyway.
05:50:21 Devastator: damn EU banning it.
05:50:42 MidJag: Though wouldn't you want as much prey as possible for polar bears I mean sure they're kinda fucked from climate change, but like they might be able to out breed it for a bit.
05:52:28 sy: ...Man, they're basically pillows with faces.
05:52:57 Devastator: yeah, going with the cuteness defence.
05:53:26 Devastator: they're also basically 50% fat.
05:54:14 ER: would be more ethical to hunt those and make them into copious amounts of bacon for us americans than killing pigs in factories
05:54:15 IronyOwl: also polar bear numbers are increasing, oddly enough
05:54:16 sy: Because they do sound delicious
05:54:20 IronyOwl: we're not really sure why
05:54:37 MidJag: Huh, that's quite strange.
05:54:41 Devastator: maybe more seals. They have more trouble in other seasons, but baby season is good.
05:54:41 sy: Delicious pillows with faces
05:54:47 ER: I want some baby seal barbeque now
05:55:06 MidJag: I have to say, they look adorable, but probably delicious.
05:55:07 IronyOwl: shit, now I'm legitimately curious what seal tastes like
05:55:12 sy: Yeah I am kinda curious what seal tastes-
05:55:25 IronyOwl: probably nothing special, like how lamb is different from beef but not by a huge amount
05:55:25 sy: What is with you Irony, you keep saying basically the same things as me,
05:55:37 IronyOwl: hideous cybernetic hivemind?
05:57:33 MidJag: Apperently gamey and fishey
05:57:49 MidJag: So either amazing or terrible depending on personal prefrence.
05:57:53 IronyOwl: makes sense I suppose
05:58:10 IronyOwl: also probably shouldn't be surprising that it's low-fat, given how much of that they keep elsewhere
05:58:18 MidJag: I'm sorta suprised by the fishey but also not.
05:58:24 sy: Okay, yeah, now I *really* want to try some.
05:58:45 sy: And that single article kind've implies it shouldn't be ridiculously expensive.
05:59:01 Devastator: do note that 'low fat' means the meat.
05:59:04 Devastator: the fat is blubber.
05:59:16 sy: Todo list: eat some baby seal sometime.
05:59:21 MidJag: So what we've learned today is that
syv is a cat that's learned to type on a keyboard and that
dev is a polar bear disguised as a goblin disguised as a person. Good to know.
05:59:37 Devastator: assuming I'm not faking the polar bear bit.
06:00:02 Piecewise: Ah I see
sy said my name
06:00:02 MidJag: You could be a goblin disgusied as a polar that's disguised as a human, I'll admit it's a possibility.
06:00:52 sy: It took you long enough to catch on to my race.
06:00:54 MidJag: I had bison jerky recently, it's a very strange taste.
06:01:05 sy: I'd have thought the colorblindess was a dead giveaway
06:02:11 ER: lotta animals are colorblind, right?
06:02:24 MidJag: Some see more colors then us actually.
06:02:35 sy: Yeah, but I'm specifically green weak, same as cats.
06:02:45 sy: Well, cats are green-nope, but meh.
06:05:51 Devastator: should tell Kaz that.
06:06:04 Devastator: oh,
Yotta, IO, you guys do read Prequel, right?
06:06:31 sy: I think Khajiit canonically have the same colorvision as the other races? Not sure.
06:19:02 MidJag: Oh yeah, apperently the people who are making that sonic movie actualy ended up changing the desgin.
06:19:41 MidJag: It's stilll going to be an awful movie.
06:19:56 MidJag: But at least the promotional material won't be as awful to look at now. ~
06:20:00 Piecewise: The skeletons in army of darkness are pretty funny
06:20:29 Piecewise: if you watch they sometimes just throw non-puppet skeletons at bruce
06:20:34 sy: I had assumed by the surge of memes that it was.
06:21:03 MidJag: Nah, they just did a big redisn and the new trailer with the redisin just came out
06:21:31 Piecewise: I think they did more than redesign
06:21:39 Piecewise: they changed scenes and stuff
06:21:48 Piecewise: made it more...in line with sonic
06:21:59 Piecewise: as opposed to some new terrible idea
06:22:06 Piecewise: the old terrible idea
06:22:45 MidJag: Much more in keeping with Sega~
06:22:48 sy: Does... does Sonic actually look like Sonic now?
06:23:23 Piecewise: the only thing that looks different from the classic design is the fact that they gave him two distinct eyes
06:23:24 Devastator: I haven't seen the trailers.
06:23:38 Piecewise: as opposed to the enormous singular, double irised ones
06:24:24 Devastator: that's a reasonable change.
06:25:34 Devastator: god, you mean that's real?
06:25:39 Devastator: I did see the old one, thought it was a parody.
06:26:35 Devastator: screaming in horror is the one response to that thing.
06:27:17 Devastator: yeah, that's much better.
06:27:26 sy: You know, I never found it horrifying. Just kinda dumb. Just a bit below par for stupid children's movies.
06:27:40 Piecewise: It looks like they tried to make it "realistic"
06:27:48 sy: The new design is definitely better, though I feel a little sad that he has two eyes.
06:28:04 sy: I've never liked sonic. Missed the boat, I guess.
06:28:08 Devastator: wonder how much time was lost having to reboot it.
06:28:10 ER: they should have made a super realistic one eyed sonic
06:28:17 Devastator: Nah, it's still horrible.
06:28:21 Devastator: the old one was just horrible.
06:28:39 Piecewise: I've heard some people saying that the "reboot" was a publicity stunt and they always intended to have this design
06:28:40 Devastator: new one is much more reasonable.
06:28:44 MidJag: I liked sonic, honestlly.
06:28:48 Devastator: sounds like a blatant lie, that.
06:28:58 Piecewise: I don't believe it either
06:29:21 Piecewise: that old design is a clear case of that special kind of idiot disconnected choice you find in hollywood and big companies
06:30:00 Devastator: something made by someone who had to look at every individual frame for far, far too long.
06:30:04 Piecewise: The kind of choice where people decide to adapt a well known, well liked thing....but change everything about it and then be utterly confused when it fails
06:30:31 sy: Don't assume malice when incompetence is a sufficient explanation, yeah.
06:31:03 Devastator: although why they don't simply say 'we fucked up'
06:32:02 Piecewise: Yeah, thats pretty rare
06:32:53 Piecewise: remember when the ghostbusters reboot posted its first trailer and that thing got overwhelmingly negative response? But then instead of changing things they doubled down, tried to make it some sort of feminist issue, and somehow people fell for that scam?
06:33:20 ER: and I thought it was Alright
06:33:29 Devastator: to be fair, it's one of the few cases where the trailer was horrifically worse than the movie.
06:33:43 Devastator: I mean, that trailer was awful. The movie was much better.
06:33:51 Piecewise: As a movie...its fine I guess but its VERY different from the original
06:34:06 sy: I don't know anything about that movie beyond it getting WAY too much publicity, and supposedly being firmly meh.
06:34:25 Piecewise: humor style was very different, pacing was very different, tone was very different
06:34:37 sy: Is there such a thing as bad publicity? Did it get hurt by all the dumb rage?
06:34:57 Piecewise: I mean...it was a box office flop
06:35:17 Piecewise: I'm not sure it even broke even
06:35:32 sy: Would it have flopped if it hadn't had all the people screeching about it?
06:35:53 MidJag: I'm gonna go with probably
06:36:18 Piecewise: I assume it probably would have done better if it didn't have a bunch of people angry at it, but how much better is hard to say
06:36:20 Devastator: screeching doesn't reduce attendance.
06:36:22 MidJag: Also we should do a bad movie night sometime and watch the last airbender movie.
06:37:06 MidJag: And then hunt down M night shamalam for crimes against cinematography.
06:37:27 Devastator: crimes against fiction.
06:37:57 sy: Didn't Shyamelon actually do a good movie at some point?
06:38:05 Piecewise: There is only one good scene in that air bender movie
06:38:09 Piecewise: lets see if I can find it
06:38:22 MidJag: I think people liked signs?
06:38:43 Devastator: rolling loot right now.
06:38:51 Devastator: you guys want the results?
06:39:00 Piecewise: that is the only good part of that movie
06:39:03 MidJag: Oh and people liked split for reasons I still don't understand.
06:39:04 Piecewise: and by good I mean hilarious
06:39:25 Piecewise: I mean...the actor in split is good
06:39:36 MidJag: Yeah, but like the movie itself is just dumb.
06:39:37 Piecewise: I think most people who liked that movie just liked his performance
06:39:52 Piecewise: there are a lot of movies that are just dumb that people like
06:39:58 Piecewise: (that ghost busters movie for instance~)
06:40:16 MidJag: Yeah, but it took itself so seriouslly I just felt annoyed the entire movie.
06:40:22 Devastator:
syv, you get a muscle.
06:40:23 ER: the original ghost busters for instance.
06:41:18 Devastator:
ER, you get a skin and some liver.
06:41:43 MidJag: Yeah, but the original ghost busters has fun with itself
06:41:48 Piecewise: I'm leaving. You people stay up too late.
06:42:01 Devastator: the coke nights get a skin and some fat.
06:42:23 Devastator: they supply the cocaine. ;-p
06:43:56 sy: That scene did not look far off from some of the fights in the cartoon. Which were still dumb, but...
06:44:05 ER: lets sell kaiju liver as a "supplement", see what happens
06:44:17 Devastator: well, those weren't so slow.
06:45:01 MidJag: But
syv think about it, there were like 6 earthbenders moving a single small rock to let a 7th earthbender throw it a the bad guy
06:45:02 ER: I've seen the movie with bue people ;P
06:45:06 sy: It's pretty good. You'd love Toph.
06:45:18 sy: Oh, that's what they were doing?
06:45:21 Devastator: you recovered an acid gland.
06:45:42 sy: I thought they were just flexing at the firebender. Like a posse cheerleading, basically.
06:46:33 Devastator: shame you didn't have that result for the other kaiju. You'd have retrieved that missile launcher.
06:46:47 ER: hey
IronyOwl, do you get better yields for your kaiju butchery building, or does it just do more at once?
06:47:45 Devastator: yeah, that would have been a hell of a thing, that.
06:47:48 Devastator: even with the damage.
06:48:05 Devastator: the acid's not bad, though..
06:48:44 Devastator: <OPM>Throwing rocks? Anyone can do that.</OPM>
06:51:40 MidJag: Oh
dev we should watch the end of OPM sometime
06:53:18 Devastator: I thought we already did.
06:53:46 MidJag: I think we stopped before the last episode came out
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06:54:28 Devastator: last ep features him punching the giant centipede.
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06:55:32 MidJag: Hmm, I really I can't rember if I saw that actually.
07:01:45 MidJag: I dunno, I had a lot of stuff going on then. I might just not be rembering it well.
07:02:07 Devastator: did you get punched?
07:02:13 Devastator: although usually people remember that.
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07:10:58 Devastator: doing the turn, mostly.
07:11:05 Devastator: up to
ER, who had the most orders.
07:11:13 Devastator: and a bunch of damaged stuff.
07:11:18 Devastator: so gotta write more stuff.
07:12:25 Devastator: (explain damaged units, mostly.
07:12:44 Devastator: you pay double upkeep to restore recovered vehicles or damaged infantry units.
07:12:50 Devastator: so 40% the normal price.
07:12:58 Devastator: you can do this in either phase.
07:13:40 Devastator: Also, upkeep is waived for units other than infantry when damaged.
07:13:48 Devastator: apparently they still want to get paid.
07:16:19 Devastator: god, I'm so fucking glad I listed all the upkeeps next to every individual item as well as the total.
07:17:06 ER: note to self: make catgirls not need to be paid
07:17:29 ER: they can get paid in like, sardines or whatever
07:17:36 ER: and we'll make sure you're happy with it
07:17:47 Devastator: ooze would have to be paid. It's all upkeep. ;-p
07:18:29 sy: Obviously catgirls are paid in headpats.
07:22:06 sy: ...Okay, I expected it to be easier to find catgirls with guns getting patted. I can find a bunch of pictures of catgirls with guns, and a bunch of pictures of catgirls being headpatted, but no crossovers!
07:22:28 sy: Also lots of porn, but
ER's asexual so that doesn't work either.
07:23:02 ER: wait, is any of the porn crossover?
07:23:33 Devastator: I think headpats count as sex for catgirls.
07:24:06 ER: that makes the prospect of paying them in it 10 times creepier but okay
07:26:59 sy: No, the porn didn't seem to involve headpats or firearms.
07:28:11 sy: Okay, so I did a tag search on a booru site for the three required traits.
07:28:20 sy: This is literally the only fucking image that counts.
07:29:40 sy: If you accept just catgirl + gun then there's a ton.
07:29:44 Devastator: headpat, gun, and catgirl?
07:30:16 ER: obviously my catgirls will be melee though~
07:30:33 Devastator: headpat + catgirl + sword?
07:31:30 sy: Here, this one is even wearing a reasonable amount of clothes.
07:34:00 sy: There's a few helmeted catgirls, with similar battle dress otherwise.
07:34:02 ER: why even bother being a catgirl if your ears are covered
07:34:07 sy: But their ears stick through the helmet.
07:34:13 sy: Which kinda defeats the purpose.
07:34:15 IronyOwl: I believe I break them down into more project-boosting parts
07:34:30 IronyOwl: also why am I getting 404 on those images
07:34:58 sy: Use a proxy? Or don't, they're not exactly notable.
07:35:01 Devastator: Also, I messed up and you have 10 more cash that you should have, IO.
07:36:04 IronyOwl: you should hire an accountant
07:36:59 sy: Put
Aigre in charge if you value qualifications over competence. Put Ao in charge if you can manage it.
07:38:34 Devastator: all the org orders are in the identical order to last turn.
07:39:17 IronyOwl: early birds gonna early bird, wafflers gon' waffle?
07:40:40 IronyOwl: oh so not to distract you from updating but
07:40:48 IronyOwl: how does part-carving work again?
07:40:59 IronyOwl: does it require a scientist or just a lab?
07:41:34 Devastator: I'm pretty sure it's just a lab.
07:41:45 Devastator: I might have said otherwise, but I don't care, really. You pay the 20/turn anyway.
07:42:48 ER: Could I send a kaiju chunk to irony and have him return me the kaiju samples?
07:42:57 ER: I'd pay him for it of course
07:43:13 IronyOwl: I'm guessing you can only process one part per lab per turn?
07:43:14 Devastator: but it's gotta spend a turn being chopped up.
07:43:24 Devastator: If you want to try to improve that, it'd be another building.
07:43:34 IronyOwl: definitely something to consider
07:43:40 Devastator: expensive one, though.
07:44:16 Devastator: well, you could cheap it out if you had restrictions, like 'only two of the same kind'
07:44:22 Devastator: because you can just build more labs.
07:45:20 IronyOwl: so how does spending the resulting bits work?
07:46:29 Devastator: you spend them when doing research projects.
07:46:34 Devastator: Also, you can choose to spend more than one.
07:46:51 Devastator: do note, however, the resulting design will require as many parts as you choose to put in.
07:46:58 ER: I thought they were for building things
07:47:00 Devastator: Also, mad scientists can do the same thing with their stuff.
07:47:16 Devastator: Yes they're for building things, but you need to base the design around them, too.
07:47:19 IronyOwl: so if I spend 3 muscle bits to research a muscle car, each one will require 3 muscle bits to manufacture?
07:47:26 Devastator: except with them it's one bit at a time, per turn.
07:48:16 ER: does that mean you'll need another acid gland to be able to use it?
07:49:10 Devastator: Get one and find out. ;-p
07:51:22 sy: That seems like rather a lot of unreliable resources to require.
07:51:40 Devastator: now that you've scored a kill, bits are gonna be on the black market.
07:51:51 sy: You need at least a dupe to get one unit. Are units made with bits just completely awesome?
07:52:12 Devastator: and you get more than one bit per bit recovered,
sy.
07:52:44 sy: Assuming it can be chopped up.
07:52:47 ER: you need a better name for that,
dev
07:52:53 sy: Which itself requires another building, and time.
07:53:24 Devastator: all of you guys have one of those buildings, though.
07:53:52 Devastator: and everything you recover will yield useable products.
07:54:07 Devastator: plus you can swap stuff around.
07:54:23 Devastator: it should be solveable.
07:54:52 Devastator: like if one player wants a buncha skin and gets muscle, someone with muscle can swap it for skin.
07:55:02 Devastator: you can move the pieces around. They aren't unstable like mad science.
07:55:16 Devastator: well, usually not unstable like mad science. If you get one that is, you will be told explicitly.
07:56:08 Devastator: so it should be ok. The cost is 20 for dissecting one bit, plus the opportunity cost of not selling it, but that's not so much, really.
07:56:24 Devastator: since the building that breaks them down can't do anything else, that's not wasted.
07:56:58 IronyOwl: wait, I thought the building for breaking them down was the lab, which could be doing research instead
07:57:11 Devastator: The building for breaking them down is the Kaiju lab.
07:57:12 Devastator: it can't do normal research.
07:57:17 Devastator: all it does is break down kaiju bits.
07:58:54 ER: so, IO,
syv, how many kaiju muscle should I cram into my catgirls?
07:59:13 IronyOwl: depends on what your fetishes are~
07:59:20 IronyOwl: really though I have no idea
07:59:27 Devastator: that's a good number.
07:59:29 IronyOwl: depends on how elite/expensive you want them to be
08:00:50 ER:
dev, how many muscle for catgirls with strength equivalent to a 50 str dark souls character?
08:01:06 Devastator: swinging giant weapons around like that?
08:01:21 Devastator: Yeah, it doesn't work exactly that way.
08:01:31 Devastator: I'll let you know when you try that.
08:02:06 ER: fuck physics, I'm cramming the musculature of several giant monsters into 40 catgirls
08:02:35 sy: That won't even let them dual wield smough hammers!
08:02:53 sy: Also seriously give the catgirls armor.
08:03:02 sy: Jetpacks would be ideal, too.
08:03:15 sy: Both are waaay more valuable than strength.
08:05:11 Devastator: I'll do the MSes tomorrow.
08:05:20 Devastator: why the fuck did I make such a complicated game?
08:06:31 Devastator: mostly watching people spin around as they encounter mechanics, and taking an interest in the game.
08:06:35 sy:
Dev said that if you made your catgirls strong and jumpy enough, they can count as fliers judt by jumping really high
08:06:44 Devastator: plus seeing some more discussion here is very satisfying.
08:06:50 sy: I think that might also mean they wouldn't need transports, not sure.
Dev?
08:07:01 sy: (Counting as a flier is really good)
08:07:08 ER:
dev, how many muscles should I put in catgirls to make them flying
08:07:15 Devastator: it doesn't work that way.
08:07:22 Devastator: you tell me you want flying if you want flying.
08:07:34 Devastator: ..and yeah, it would negate the need for transport. Flying units transport themselves.
08:07:42 Devastator: you don't need a transport for your transport, after all.
08:07:45 sy: 1) Fliers are really dodgy. 2) Fliers don't need transport.
08:08:26 sy: I mean dodginess is still the worst of the three defensive stats, but infantry already have awesome durability, and strength lends itself to armoring them anyway.
08:09:00 ER: fuck it, we'll give them attack on titan suits
08:09:25 sy: I support this plan wholeheartedly.
08:09:27 Devastator: you can give them flying suits, yeah.
08:09:42 Devastator: I mean, I have guys researching force-fields.
08:09:46 sy: That gear needs to appear in more things that are better than Attack on Titan.
08:10:24 IronyOwl: what a coincidence, I was considering researching hologram emitters this turn in an attempt to get dodgier tanks
08:11:30 ER: the game where one half of a turn takes four updates
08:11:32 IronyOwl:
sy what do you think of that plan, since apparently dodginess is bad?
08:11:57 IronyOwl: I tried offering to automate some of it, but I'd have to know how it works to do that so no good there D:
08:13:54 sy: Dodginess isn't bad, it's just not as helpful as armor and durability, which are more likely to help. Having more speed/dodginess on a tank is probably a really good idea (if it isn't too expensive) because it'll help stay out of melee range. I think.
08:14:33 sy: That missile launcher would still fuck the tank over, but everything except having multiple units would be fucked over by that missile launcher.
08:15:08 Devastator: Yeah, that missile launcher was A THING.
08:15:45 ER: If I combine my two armor kits, I can greatly improve the armor of an arty piece. You seem to lie those,
syv, what would you think of up-armoring them?
08:16:06 sy: Do not armor arty, it is good because it is disposable.
08:16:20 sy: You'd be way better off armoring a tank.
08:16:36 sy: Or *maybe* one of my fighter jets.
08:17:04 sy: They cost 200 each, which is pretty damn good really.
08:17:28 ER: I can improve its armor by a category for 25, which seems pretty cost effective. :P
08:17:42 sy: ...Yeah, uh, if that stacks that's very good indeed.
08:17:56 ER: I don't think it stacks with itself.
08:18:12 ER: Hey
Dev, does ERA stack with itself?
08:18:38 ER: if I does I should have miserly kept the whole batch to myself and make the UBER TECHNICAL
08:18:41 sy: Yeaaaah, uh, two bonus grades to armor would put a jet on par with a modern tank...
08:19:04 sy: Still has way less durability, but that's something.
08:19:24 ER: there is a grade it can't improve past, I forgot what it was.
08:19:55 ER: Don't think I need my workshop for anything else this month, I'll make one and give it to you
08:20:13 sy: @
Ironyowl I really suggest reverse engineering this modern tank, BTW.
08:20:56 sy: It will probably be way cheaper to manufacture them, and it might put them down to a price that makes them reasonable to deploy in multiples.
08:21:54 ER: god, I need more money to make my dreams come true
08:22:02 ER: your game is very true to life,
dev
08:23:48 Devastator: Yeah, but please wait for tomorrow.
08:24:01 IronyOwl: though I should probably do so quickly, before I get this one wrecked too...
08:24:17 Devastator: Yes you can, but please don't.
08:24:38 ER: you the boss, if you tell me no I can't.
08:24:41 Devastator: "Can my character fuck this NPC in this D&D game?"
08:25:15 ER: the sensible answer in that question is indeed, often no
08:25:21 sy: "No, your cha is your dump stat and she has five levels on you."
08:25:50 IronyOwl: "No, you just burned down a tavern in broad daylight and the guards are coming after you."
08:26:07 sy: Oh please, like THAT would really stop someone.
08:27:23 IronyOwl: I guess deep down all adventurers are Florida Man, aren't they?
08:27:43 ER: can't use more than 3 kaiju muscle on my catgirls if I start on them this turn
08:28:06 ER: well, florida woman in my case
08:29:05 ER: florida woman dicovers cashe of unexploded ordinance underneath her lawn and starts tossing them around, shouting "fireball!"
08:29:15 IronyOwl: so does ERA armor need to ever be replaced or is it automatically repaired along with the rest of the craft?
08:29:30 Devastator: yes, you get the full unit back.
08:29:50 sy: All consumables are permanent upgrades, even bullets.
08:30:02 IronyOwl: would reverse engineering a tank that had ERA applied to it give different results than just reverse engineering the tank, or reverse engineering each separately?
08:30:19 Devastator: do it and find out.
08:30:30 IronyOwl: maybe I will! (no particular reason not to)
08:31:02 sy: I *strongly* suspect that researching a tank modified with something will mean you can only produce tanks modified with that thing.
08:31:17 IronyOwl: but I'm not sure that's a bad thing in this case
08:31:30 IronyOwl: well... maybe it would be if it means I can't upgrade the design cleanly
08:32:15 ER: deeeeeev, how big of a bood would I see from 3x kaiju muscle?
08:32:18 sy: My plane didn't have a full sensor suite, and I chose not to purchase a new sensor suite for it, and now all of the jets I produce don't have full sensors--but they'd have sensors if I had bought sensors. I think (hope vainly) this makes them cheaper, but I just don't know.
08:32:49 sy: I think havig tanks with era armor installed is just an upgrade, unless it massivrly inflates the price, which I wouldn't expect.
08:33:06 IronyOwl: trouble is, I intend to do *FUN THINGS* with my tanks
08:33:17 IronyOwl: wouldn't want re-armored them complicated
08:33:48 IronyOwl: deeeeev, what's the difference between research from scratch, upgrading an existing design, and reverse engineering?
08:33:49 ER: then strip the armor off, then reverse engineer that :P
08:34:07 IronyOwl: haven't applied the armor yet, not sure if I want to before reverse engineering or not
08:34:12 sy: Upgrading an existing design won't end up with something strictly worse.
08:34:18 Devastator: as not a mad scientist, you can't research from an existing object.
08:34:25 Devastator: you can build off a blueprint.
08:34:30 ER: trying to decide if I want to keep that liver or trade it off for MORE MOOSLE
08:34:30 sy: Reverse engineering *just* gets the thing as it exists.
08:34:34 Devastator: mad scientists can only do it from existing objects.
08:34:53 Devastator: you can make blueprints from an existing object, and then work off that.
08:35:08 sy: Also you can probably just design era armor that's just as good without needing to RE it.
08:35:28 IronyOwl: that's kinda what I'm wondering
08:35:29 sy: Arguably might be even better, if you design it for the goal of mass production.
08:35:41 ER: current plan for smoll lab is "something which does what ERA does and stacks with ERA" :V
08:35:45 IronyOwl: like, if I were to design a tank from scratch, would it probably be better or worse than the modern tank?
08:37:24 Devastator: Depends on what you declare, irony.
08:37:33 Devastator: you tell me what sort of tank you want, and I give you an ETA.
08:37:56 Devastator: If you shove stuff in it, it changes the calculations a lot, and might do other stuff.
08:38:24 Devastator: but at the basics you ask for what you want.
08:40:11 IronyOwl: one other question, do kaiju bits have predefined uses or is it a "tell me how this is useful" kind of thing?
08:40:28 sy: Oh, based on what I've asked about this before, you *are* better off building a design off the modern tank design, as long as it's basically down the route you want to pursue.
08:40:30 Devastator: mostly B, but there's some limitations on it.
08:40:35 Devastator: special ones are more restricted.
08:40:52 IronyOwl: good to know, in both cases
08:43:29 ER:
Devastator, will I always get 3 samples from processing muscle with the kaiju lab?
08:43:29 IronyOwl: oh man, I am so excited now that I know exactly how to build supertanks
08:43:53 IronyOwl: kind of a shame the mad scientists seem resistant to bribery, but not very surprising
08:44:06 IronyOwl: they don't do it for the money, after all
08:44:35 IronyOwl: kaiju labs take 4 turns to build
08:44:43 IronyOwl: there goes my processing center idea
08:44:50 IronyOwl: well... I'll probably still do it anyway
08:44:58 IronyOwl: but there goes my processing center idea for next turn
08:45:17 IronyOwl: oooooooh, just realized
08:45:25 IronyOwl: since things take the same resource to research and build
08:45:33 IronyOwl: there's a strong incentive to specialize
08:45:49 IronyOwl: if one guy's already using kaiju muscle, you're better off using kaiju heart, I would think
08:46:33 Devastator: some are also more common than others.
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08:55:56 ER: does the kaiju lab not use a scientist?
08:56:15 Devastator: I think I required one before, but I'm changing my mind now.
08:56:33 ER: if I'd known that I'd have more muscle now!
08:56:35 sy: That, uh, might deserve an announcement.
08:57:06 Devastator: I'll announce it at the end of the turn and edit the rules.
08:57:12 Devastator: although I could keep the requirement.
08:57:17 Devastator: it's not that big a deal either way.
08:57:25 Devastator: yeah, probably easier to just keep it.
08:57:30 Devastator: scientists are cheap, anyway.
08:57:39 ER: also it means I paid a scientist to do nothing for a couple months ;P
08:57:54 sy: You weren't using a scientist you hired?!
08:58:07 sy: Or, oh, you mean you cut stuff up with him.
08:59:00 Devastator: keeping the requirement.
08:59:32 ER: though it does mean I get to pick two of three at the moment
08:59:39 sy: How much Kaiju junk can you cut up in one turn's action?
08:59:50 Devastator: it's easier and there's a bunch of scientists floating around.
09:01:18 sy: So, just cutting up Kaiju parts will consume every Organization's base scientist *just to keep up*, meaning if all parts are butchered, the only research that would be done would be with hired scientists?
09:02:06 Devastator: assuming you don't sell off extra parts, and intend to butcher everything, yeah.
09:02:38 sy: ...That doesn't seem like too much to you?
09:03:18 ER: you're arguing against the rule being the way you throught it was originally?
09:03:28 Devastator: there's like ten scientists around, and you can get more.
09:03:31 Devastator: and building more labs is possible.
09:03:58 sy: Labs which require more scientists.
09:04:05 Devastator: Yeah, but more show up regularly.
09:04:19 sy: Also, there's ten scientists including base org scientists, yeah?
09:04:23 Devastator: and ones going off-contract show up again.
09:04:58 ER: I wonder what would happen if I stole the prion gun and sold it to the hand
09:05:19 sy: You said before that they'd rapidly slow how many are gained, and implied that it would be very possible for a few individuals to monopolize virtually all of them, aside from the contracts lapsing.
09:05:32 Devastator: but the contracts last three months each.
09:05:47 Devastator: and you should get an extra four or five over the next three months.
09:05:48 sy: No, I'm just commenting on the number.
09:05:54 Devastator: then it'll start slowing a bunch.
09:05:58 Devastator: you'll have to do things to get more.
09:06:13 sy: So it's actually accelerating, currently.
09:06:36 Devastator: well, you had 1, 2, and 1, IIRC.
09:07:00 Devastator: Yeah, there was a month with 2.
09:07:20 Devastator: it'll be roughly the same for the next 3 months.
09:07:23 Devastator: and then it'll slow.
09:09:03 sy: I see, I wasn't able to bid because I was doubling down on the jet.
09:09:35 Devastator: That choice isn't mine to make.
09:10:09 sy: That's the explanation for why I hadn't realized it was two in particular.
09:10:20 sy: I had thought it was one each time.
09:10:35 Devastator: yeah, it was one, then two, then one.
09:15:45 Devastator: either one or two next month.
09:19:26 ER: I can't wait to murder kaiju
09:19:37 Devastator: next one should be neat.
09:20:29 ER: ...what happens if I have two scientists and two researches going, and one scientist quits? Do I have to pick a project to cancel?
09:20:52 sy: You'd have to pick one to pause.
09:21:03 sy: Research can be paused and picked up by another scientist.
09:21:36 Devastator: yeah, it doesn't go away.
09:24:23 ER: would it surpise any of you to learn that I usually have water beside my computer in a mug. A mug with birds on it.
09:24:58 ER: and also for some reason chandeleers, illegible cursive writing, and a compass rose
09:25:25 ER: I'm not sure what theme they wer going for, but it's beautiful~
09:25:57 sy: The only weird part there is that your water is in a mug.
09:26:48 ER: and I mean, there's nothing *wrong* with driking water out of a mug
09:31:44 sy: There kinda is, Evidently Right.
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