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04:16:33 ER: that elevator is going to look horrifying to whoever finds it
04:17:39 Devastator: maybe we should be a little bit subtle.
04:17:45 Devastator: wait for doors to close.
04:18:03 Devastator: slightly less surprise.
04:18:11 Devastator: but these guys never saw us.
04:18:19 Devastator: we saw them, they didn't see us.
04:18:35 Devastator: and GMs like moves with style.
04:19:15 Devastator: Of course, I wonder if we could jam the doors shut and eat the bodies before someone comes to fix it.
04:19:28 Devastator: "Huh, this door is dented. And the inside is oddly.. spotless.
04:20:05 ER: so just stay in there for like a day and eat everything?
04:20:06 Devastator: it's a good tactical situation, but a bad strategic one.
04:20:13 Devastator: break out through the roof.
04:20:27 Devastator: lick up all the blood.
04:22:09 Devastator: That said, so much for our job.
04:22:14 Devastator: but.. it's worth losing the job over.
04:22:51 Devastator: and probably money. We can move to another spire for a while or hide out.
04:23:00 Devastator: Can still see Ali, if we visit during the day.
04:23:28 ER: also uh, depends on how mad eiwhyl is
04:23:35 Devastator: She won't be happy.
04:23:41 Devastator: and she seems like a very firm person.
04:23:45 Devastator: I think she'd kick us out.
04:23:53 ER: of course she's not happy. :P
04:23:54 Devastator: if it was clean, like those goons just vanished, it'd be ok.
04:24:11 Devastator: but the horror-vator is probably too obvious.
04:24:29 Devastator: of course, we seem to have some ability to charm people, so maybe not.
04:24:30 ER: hmm, should camp out in the elevator then
04:24:53 Devastator: if we can get it stuck until we eat everything in it, it might work.
04:25:23 Devastator: Ali would miss us, and Eiwhyl might fear for us, but since that would take like 36 hours, I think we could actually do it.
04:25:44 ER: she might have been happier if we didn't tell her about it and just made the problem go away, but guess we already have
04:25:58 Devastator: still, I think if they just vanish and she doesn't see it, I think we can get away with it.
04:26:34 Devastator: I wouldn't expect her to forgive us with the blood, but it's not inconcievable. Still, she seems pretty strong-willed, so I'd expect she would get us booted.
04:26:47 Devastator: dunno if draggy's charming enough for that.
04:26:52 ER: ...on the other hand, if they just vanish, Eiwhyl might get blamed
04:27:15 Devastator: but they mgiht not risk it.
04:27:16 ER: if they get elevator of horrored, it's not super plausable she could have done it
04:27:27 Devastator: she did use to fight.
04:27:42 Devastator: if she was someone normal, no, but if she was the Slasher of the Spires, maybe not.
04:28:38 Devastator: Also, if they vanish the crooks might back down.
04:28:50 Devastator: they wouldn't lose too much reputation.
04:30:31 Devastator: If the elevator of horrors is found, I'd think it'd depend on the size of the org.
04:30:44 Devastator: If there's like three more guys, they might be too scared to retaliate.
04:30:51 Devastator: if there's like 3000, I'd expect it to get nasty.
04:31:18 Devastator: since it's star wars, they might do a bounty instead.
04:31:35 Devastator: some hero-level guy could take out any number of mooks, after all.
04:33:48 ER: such people are probably still rare
04:34:09 ER: being like, if not force users, force-strong people
04:34:19 Devastator: Yeah, but that makes a bounty more likely in some ways.
04:34:33 Devastator: if they don't have anyone on staff, it's more likely to look for people outside the org.
04:37:02 Devastator: tbh, this isn't the ideal situation, but I'll take a good tactical one (and bad long-term issues) over one that's bad both short and long-term.
04:37:30 Devastator: ..also, elevator of horrors, they'd blame us.
04:38:12 Devastator: well, maybe us anyway.
04:38:36 ER: none of them actually know about us yet. A problem if they disappear and we keep working for eiwhyl
04:40:00 Devastator: but either we can take the hits or it's going to happen eventually.
04:41:35 Devastator: I'd be ok with leaving it until we grow a bit or make a better situation, but it'd be part of a plan and not winging it. And really, right now seems ok.
04:41:42 ER: currently watching a recording of a twitch streamer struggling against a janky scripted sequence where a character is supposed to die because she REALLY doesn't want that character to die
04:45:02 ER: I wasn't interested in it before because it sounded like a stealth puzzle game, but actually there's lots of murder~
04:45:49 Devastator: I'd expect character death in that, yeah.
04:46:32 ER: yeah but it was like, a gameplay sequence
04:47:31 ER: where there are archers shooting at a friend while he's pushing a thing. and the archers are totally in range for you to kill them, but they both respawn and don't really matter because he's scripted to get hit
04:48:12 Devastator: that makes it a bit trickier.
04:48:38 Devastator: a death in a situation that you should have a chance to escape.
04:48:42 ER: would have made sense as a cutscene or something
04:48:55 Devastator: or a better situation showing how screwed you are.
04:49:26 ER: (other than that one misjudged section though, the game looks good)
05:09:32 Devastator: any more draggie thoughts?
05:10:22 Devastator: you aren't a dragon unless you have a breath weapon.
05:10:32 Devastator: albeit tibana gas might actually be a downgrade over whatever we'd get naturally.
05:15:09 Devastator: or maybe it'll be better.
05:15:20 Devastator: assuming we get something out of eating blasters.
05:15:32 ER: assuming we get anything naturally
05:15:42 ER: that is, without eating things
05:17:34 Devastator: I think we'd starve if we don't eat things.
05:17:45 Devastator: but I'm pretty sure we'd get something just with a regular diet of eating lots of food.
05:18:00 ER: hmm, this game does have the curse of the first game in a series having a colon in the title :P
05:19:46 Devastator: of course, there is a downside to eating three people.
05:20:09 Devastator: a couple steaks a day might not cut it.
05:20:19 Devastator: and we'd probably have to give up fitting through windows.
05:20:28 Devastator: unless draggie ends up getting really long instead of wide.
05:22:56 Devastator: I mean, it's not like long dragons would be a huge stretch.
05:24:40 Devastator: although eating three times the bodyweight (at least) in 36 hours might mean a fat dragon instead.
05:24:59 Devastator: which would be extra cuteness.
05:25:47 ER: hopefully we can still kill as a fat draggie
05:27:19 Devastator: I don't think it'd be a problem unless we really push it.
05:27:23 Devastator: like the one in OOTS.
05:30:08 Devastator: we'll probably stay killy so long as we exercise that part of ourself occasionally.
05:30:55 Devastator: I suspect we lost a little potential for extra dexterity with what we've been doing lately, but that should be ok.
05:31:10 ER: should get some mechadendrites so that we can do medical stuff and such while staying killy. :P
05:31:11 Devastator: but not being max is ok.
05:31:24 Devastator: nah, we just gotta become a six-legged dragon.
05:31:47 Devastator: four killy legs and an upper body. ;-p
05:32:17 Devastator: I mean, eight limbs aren't much more than six, right?
05:32:23 Devastator: nine including the tail.
05:33:19 Devastator: and mechadendrites. Dunno, maybe.
05:33:29 Devastator: although force telekinesis would be my choice.
05:33:44 ER: hopefully mechadendrites exist in star wars?
05:34:43 Devastator: artificial limbs do, after all.
05:36:40 Devastator: we gotta find an unethical doctor.
05:36:50 Devastator: "Hey doc, help me grow more limbs." ;-p
05:37:02 Devastator: that's a downside to this fight.
05:37:24 Devastator: we might be able to get that one to help us if we continued the charm offensive, or even delayed a few days.
05:37:53 ER: let's just work for graad, he seems to have resources~
05:38:13 Devastator: that is an idea, though.
05:38:22 Devastator: we might be able to convince those goons to serve us.
05:38:38 Devastator: we could have them back off on the brutality in favor of just drugs and smuggling.
05:38:47 Devastator: so everyone benefits.
05:38:58 Devastator: except the guys we displaced.
05:41:21 Devastator: yeah, that's got some appeal.
05:44:25 ER: eh, rather just go for murder for now
05:44:42 ER: I don't want to be a gang boss
05:45:16 ER: doctor dragon would only recruit mooks into a better life. ;p
05:47:05 Devastator: I kinda want to be killy but also sometimes friendly and merciful.
05:47:53 ER: An adult dragon can afford to show mercy
05:50:33 Devastator: if it wasn't likely to be boring, I do see the appeal of picking just one path and following it.
05:51:26 ER: dragons live too long to never change their ethics~
06:20:12 Devastator: should be able to get k-com done tomorrow.
06:20:28 Devastator:
syv just wanted to attack the aus one with everyone, IIRC.
06:20:30 ER: did you make the game too complicated? :P
06:20:44 Devastator: but it's also making it satisfying.
06:20:54 Devastator: if less complicated, things like last night wouldn't happen.
06:21:30 Devastator: It's good to have you playing.
06:24:23 Devastator: I'm also awaiting a fight where the transports will be at risk.
06:24:27 Devastator: but that fight isn't this one.
06:24:55 Devastator: I'm also glad you're all going different routes.
06:28:27 ER: is there a limit to where planes can land?
06:28:50 ER: I'd kind imagine that a heli would be more flexable in that regard, but maybe not
06:29:09 Devastator: It's usually not going to be relevant, since kaiju are currently attacking cities.
06:29:23 ER: yeah, considering something else
06:30:04 Devastator: I'd rather not worry about it.
07:29:15 Devastator pokes an imaginary paris
07:30:23 ER: bah, do I need a large workshop now so that I can make a plane with proper science containment?
07:31:20 Devastator: depends on what you're capturing.
07:31:24 ER: ...well no, that seems like a modification I could build, really
07:31:59 ER: would I have trouble catching things with the default trasnport plane?
07:33:13 ER: guess I send a unit of hunters in a plane, they land nearby, swipe the science and drag it back to the plane
07:33:37 Devastator: it'd provide a bonus.
07:33:42 Devastator: but you'd be doing this during the action phase.
07:33:50 Devastator: which means no deployment, unless you have another transport.
07:34:03 Devastator: ..recaptureing escaped mad science is an action..
07:34:04 ER: is there any way to do this NOT during action phase?
07:35:11 ER: recapturing mad science is all I'm talking about here
07:35:39 Devastator: nah, it's pretty much the definition of an action.
07:35:45 Devastator: you're interacting with the world.
07:36:13 ER: yeah, which is why I'm planning it as a second base and transport
07:36:48 Devastator: it'd be fine if you have a second transport.
07:36:58 ER: want a second base anyway for tracking stations, could put things not for fighting kaiju there
07:36:59 Devastator: you can do recapturing and deployement and such if you have two transports.
07:37:07 Devastator: you can also do it no transport if you don't want that bonus.
07:38:15 ER: okay, is that bonus worth... 300 plus upkeep?
07:39:47 ER: how are my hunters going to a different landmass and dragging it back in the timeframe of a month using trucks
07:40:54 Devastator: a month sounds pretty reasonable for that, really.
07:41:22 Devastator: but escaped mad science, by definition, is going to be capable of escaping.
07:41:24 ER: welp, we won't see till later
07:41:36 ER: still have to prioritize kaiju
07:43:17 ER: probably will take a lot of turns to research my nekobutchers.
07:44:07 Devastator: depends on how much you go for.
07:44:22 Devastator: it's up to you how big a project you want.
07:44:40 ER: yeah, what I mean is I'll go big. :V
07:45:47 Devastator: Can you describe what you want?
07:45:54 Devastator: I won't tell you the answer, but I want to work it out with my form now.
07:46:02 Devastator: I might need to add stuff.
07:48:46 ER: people with somewhat increased senses and greatly increased speed and strength from kaiju muscle, with suits including gear to climb up kaiju bodies and living melee weapons to strike at weak spots.
07:49:20 ER: ...might add some sort of mind backup?
07:49:29 Devastator: That one's going to need more support.
07:49:37 ER: so they can be repaired from puddles? eh, might not matter overmuch.
07:50:21 Devastator: how fast you want them to be?
07:52:25 Devastator: fast? fast as racing motorcycles? bullet-time?
07:52:27 ER: I'll cautiously say anime-fast, but not absurdly anime fast.
07:53:20 Devastator: Is the gear protective?
07:53:29 Devastator: but yeah, should be able to handle that kinda thing.
07:54:34 ER: probably want to weather light AoE attacks, so the gear should be protective against cuts and acid.
07:56:01 ER: need a lot of features to make my silly attack on titan transhuman warriors actually viable
07:56:17 Devastator: although more info is always nice when I see stuff like greatly increased str or speed.
07:56:31 Devastator: but if it's a big project like that, I'll ask for adjustments on the first turn.
07:56:47 ER: which is why they get their own lab while the other one works on things with a shorter return on investment~
07:58:07 Devastator: Irony didn't think of that last night.
07:58:14 Devastator: sure, MSes can do great things.
07:58:19 Devastator: but you guys can have more labs out.
08:02:30 Devastator: I'd accept video for 'this strong' or 'this fast'
08:03:20 ER: fast and strong enough to not die approaching and climbing a kaiju, then deal damage through hide?
08:04:29 ER: wait, I can just make a telebackup server building and everyone in
ER will be immortal
08:07:19 Devastator: yeah, that would take a while.
08:08:48 ER: allows for repair and recovery of completely destroyed infantry units
08:10:09 Devastator: yeah, gonna be a bit.
08:10:41 ER: pays for itself in score, as losses no longer exist :D
08:25:19 ER: wait, I was going to make a wizard collage.
08:43:42 ER: bah, finish the kaiju fights so that I can keep building affronts to practicality ;p
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