00:43:46 Devastator: oh, like 200 bombs.
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00:54:43 syv: How did you greet me *before* i joined?
00:55:09 ER: I've had things to do recently. And I have not done them yet, because I don't want to do things.
00:55:16 Devastator: Nah, saw you posting on the forums and made a guess.
00:55:18 syv: Well, Egan, can you give me money?
00:55:31 syv: What, do you watch Mook OOC?
00:55:49 Devastator: I had a mook character not so long ago.
00:55:49 ER: one of the things I need to do is deposit some checks
00:56:03 ER: I can't give you money because my bank account is empty
00:56:11 ER: and you're not here for me to hand you cash
00:56:43 Devastator: apparently he isn't rich enough to hire lawyers. ;-p
00:57:01 Devastator: You guys do have a month with no attack.
00:57:28 Piecewise: Do I have rocket propelled prion delivery systems yet?
00:57:29 ER: what are trump's combat stats in kaijucom
00:57:45 Devastator: could roll for that for you now, actually.
00:58:32 Devastator: it also started wispering to you.
00:58:54 Piecewise: or the rocket launcher
00:59:16 Piecewise: Well this is new and interesting
00:59:41 Piecewise: Well, if its gonna talk to me, I'm gonna charge it rent
01:00:00 Piecewise: At least until I give it to
sy
01:00:10 syv: But yeah, Eggo, you haven't posted a turn yet, and I only need 63. I can pay you in infantry, which cost 50, and I'm offering to share my unit discount, which is ~13 off another infantry unit. Plus, more.
01:00:17 Piecewise: INFANTRY LEVEL ANTI-KAIJU WEAPON MADE
01:00:53 syv: So if you want to have two more infantry platoons, I'm basically giving you that at price, plus some.
01:01:08 syv: Send me one so I can have my proving grounds building actually look at it.
01:01:08 Devastator: you may also want to check the bit I mentioned about reverse-engineering stuff.
01:01:14 Devastator: but I want to see some diversity.
01:01:41 syv: Would they need large labs to reverse the plans?
01:01:44 Piecewise: wheres the african american tanks?
01:02:13 Devastator: Just no 'free copies of one identical thing to everyone'
01:02:18 Devastator: but they do need a large workshop to build one.
01:02:18 Piecewise: canadian carpet bombs
01:02:29 syv: So the plans actually have immense value, because the major reversing costs--purchase and the lab--aren't necessary.
01:02:54 Piecewise: "Climax Vegetation" is a real term
01:03:18 Devastator: well, yeah, but not everything is going to be reverse-engineering in one turn.
01:03:50 ER: I know that I won't need infantry this turn, so I may as well buy it next turn to save upkeep
01:04:57 syv: You give me the 63 now, plus 37 next turn to buy the infantry, I send them over next turn.
01:05:06 ER: pay you 63 for a unit of infantry worth 50, then pay an extra 10 for them?
01:06:22 syv: No? That adds to 100 total, the same cost as just buying two normally, and also gets you the plans, and priority purchase status, plus discounts on any future infantry you buy through me. Which is a standing offer, not a one-time thing.
01:06:29 syv: Also, it's simply good for us.
01:07:19 syv: And no, you wouldn't pay upkeep on them this round, I'd pay the upkeep, then you start paying at the same time you'd start paying anyway.
01:15:41 Piecewise: I wonder what I should do after this round
01:15:50 Piecewise: I'll have finished my requested weapon
01:15:54 Devastator: well, you can always push for more prions..
01:16:29 Piecewise: Pheromones to make kaiju more friendly/attracted to humans?
01:16:41 Devastator: going to need some larger humans for that.
01:17:05 Piecewise: Science isn't about why, its about why not!
01:17:11 Piecewise: And then about ignoring the answers as to why not
01:17:27 Devastator: You can go for basically anything you want.
01:17:30 Devastator: as long as it's interesting.
01:18:18 syv: So mad scientists can't tinker up a better version of Tic-Tac-Toe?
01:18:33 Piecewise: I could always try to make Evas using kaiju genetics
01:18:38 Piecewise: hmm that would be fun
01:18:59 Devastator: you may want to buy some kaiju parts if you want that.
01:19:47 Piecewise: I'd just need samples to draw DNA from. I'm not Frankenstein-ing it, I'm vat growing them!
01:20:04 Piecewise: Or, mind control implantation drones!
01:20:35 Devastator: sure, vat growing kaiju without kaiju parts is possible.
01:20:44 Devastator: you may want a bigger lab, though.
01:20:48 Devastator: cat-sized kaiju aren't really kaiju.
01:20:58 Devastator: no right, you have medium.
01:21:11 Devastator: so you max out at small size, so about Benedict's size.
01:21:23 syv: Think you can make me a kaiju troop carrier plane?
01:21:31 Devastator: sorry, forgot mad scientists have mediums to start with.
01:22:10 Piecewise: Dunno about prices but I'm sure living planes is easy enough
01:22:11 ER: life goal: engineer catgirls for military applications.
01:22:22 Devastator: There's nothing stopping you.
01:22:30 Devastator: I was slightly disappointed to see you not pursuing that right away.
01:22:31 Piecewise: if they breed it should reduce future costs
01:22:50 Piecewise: Should we let genetically engineered weapons breed?
01:22:58 Piecewise: Ah I'm sure it will be fine
01:23:01 Devastator: They wouldn't by default, I have to say.
01:23:11 Devastator: with the possible exception of some mad science ones.
01:23:25 Piecewise: Flying living vehicle + Sex
01:23:26 syv: WELL LOOKIE HERE I HAVE A MAD SCIENTIST AVAILABLE.
01:24:12 syv: Yeah, okay, I'll be reversing the jet next turn, that could possibly take some time. After that, fleshplane.
01:24:29 syv: Hey
Dev, could the jet design be put towards helping the fleshplane?
01:25:53 syv: So *that's* why it's so fast.
01:26:13 Devastator: the rules are pretty lax on what you can do with something.
01:26:54 ER: we need to make a fleshificator
01:27:22 ER: which turns things into orginisms while retaining their function.
01:33:11 Devastator: function of the object or the organisms?
01:34:00 ER: build a fighter jet. Fleshificate it. Now your jets breed.
01:36:46 Devastator: something like that would be a building.
01:37:41 ER: stoopid internet, stop being slow.
01:37:46 Devastator: what do you do in the dark zone?>
01:41:15 ER: does noita have passive heat and air pressure simulation like powder toy?
01:41:17 Devastator: fuck it's dark here.
01:43:40 Devastator: ok, found a heart somehow.
01:44:51 Devastator: is there any way to see in there? I had a wand of the all-seeing eye and it was no good.
01:45:59 ER: where we're going, we won't need eyes
01:47:33 syv: You'll on rare occasion find a wand that just has one element, which "lights up your surroundings". It's mostly useless.
01:47:37 ER: I had an electric torch once
01:47:44 syv: Want a helpful tip about that area?
01:48:03 Devastator: sure, though I'm out of it now.
01:48:18 syv: There's a guaranteed health drop in there, and no enemies.
01:48:37 Devastator: ahh, found a heart.
01:48:43 Devastator: though I saw an enemy ahead of me in the next area.
01:49:08 syv: There are some in the next area, but you've gotta go so deep that you'll take some drowning damage.
01:49:31 Devastator: was trying to drink my way down.
01:49:41 syv: The health drop can be reached without damage if you have a torch, and even without a torch you can reach it easily by drinking a flask repeatedly.
01:51:22 Devastator: well, made it through level 1.
01:51:53 Devastator: found a wand with five chainsaws in the shop.
01:52:08 syv: No, you'll waste it and make me feel bad.
01:52:49 syv: I had a great run today, had 275 health going into level three. Found a new element in the shop, "soil cube", so I stuck it on the bomb wand to try it out.
01:53:00 syv: Immediately died by drowning in a pile of earth.
01:53:19 syv: Back to be being vaugely annoyed at Noita, now.
01:53:44 Devastator: Mad scientists can -also- research buildings.
01:53:46 Piecewise: Hmm turning things into flesh is probably beyond the science of this time period
01:53:50 Devastator: but those aren't portable.
01:54:29 Piecewise: Can I research the "All Kaiju fucking leave" button?
01:54:43 Piecewise: and then press it several dozen times
01:54:46 Devastator: of course. Don't expect it to work, though.
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01:58:42 Devastator: homing spell perk any good?
02:02:45 Piecewise: Depends on the spell
02:02:49 Piecewise: with some spells its absurd
02:03:10 Piecewise: With things like the "Cloud" spells they'll zoom off after enemies and cling to them
02:03:10 ER: the homing spell modifier is stronger, right?
02:03:28 ER: I had a wand where every shot had the modifier which was pretty good
02:05:39 syv: It makes the... cross element or whatever it is, it makes that home powerfully, which is insane.
02:06:08 syv: Haven't actually tried these with just the element, the perk is good enough alone.
02:06:28 syv: Though, it also makes things act weird sometimes.
02:06:29 Devastator: wand with 11 toxic cloud spells.
02:07:03 syv: It also makes those circles of X spells home on enemies, which is amazing on a debuff circle, but causes tears if you luck into a healing or buff circle.
02:07:05 Devastator: I think I'll pair them with 'sparkbolt/trigger' spells.
02:07:27 syv: None of the cloud elements I've tried were any good.
02:07:45 syv: Beyond the water one being good for wetting oneself before gaining a water flask.
02:08:11 syv: Apparently the last update version has you start with a water flask? So yeah.
02:08:30 Devastator: that game I died with while having a S-flag had a wand that made purple poison piles on everything it shot.
02:08:37 Devastator: it was fucking glorious, but too good to use.
02:09:40 Devastator: next wand is chainsaw/dual-spell/chainsaw.
02:09:44 Devastator: do I ditch the clouds?
02:09:56 Piecewise: The homing power of spells mostly seems to depend on how fast they fly. Fast flying spells don't have the time to course correct.
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02:12:43 syv: YES DITCH THE CLOUD FOR CHAINSAWS
02:12:53 syv: Chainsaw is the BEST element!
02:13:05 syv: Plus it has double spell, which is the second best!
02:13:17 Devastator: damage plus, electric charge, bubble spark x3.
02:13:20 Devastator: ffs, what do I ditch?
02:13:34 syv: That'd actually pretty meh.
02:13:54 syv: Damage boost is expensive, and I don't think it's actually very efficient compared to the good elements?
02:14:06 Devastator: +10 damage on a sparkbolt machine gun?
02:14:43 Devastator: my machine gun is 250 max 53 regen.
02:14:44 syv: Oh, only +5? That is pretty good.
02:14:46 Devastator: it'd last long enough.
02:15:12 syv: Especially on sparkbolts, yeah. They have the critboost.
02:15:13 Devastator: but all the wands I'm carrying have chainsaws on them.
02:15:33 syv: If you have sufficient chainsaw, damage boost might be the thing to take.
02:15:51 syv: But if you don't have sufficient chainsaw... well, sufficient chainsaw is the wincon, not damage boost.
02:16:37 syv: I'd say four is reliably sufficient, though more does open up *all* wands.
02:17:49 syv: More might be necessary if you're trying to rapidfire something which adds recharge time... but if you have sparkbolt with trigger, then it's still unnecessary.
02:17:59 Devastator: the wincon is not me playing.
02:18:20 syv: Pretty sure if you fire a projectile which fires something else, the secondary projectile's modifer stats don't get applied.
02:18:53 syv: So you can machine gun things that normally force a boltaction firerate.
02:19:07 Devastator: mana cost is added.
02:19:16 syv: Yes, but not recharge/cast time.
02:19:24 syv: And those are the ones that *really&
02:24:41 syv: I once had one of those high mana cap low regen wands, and that run I also lucked into a different wand with 8x large firebolts, so I set up the high mana wand to fire trigger sparkbolts which doublecast large firebolt. It had ridiculous DPS and oneshot most mooks.
02:25:21 ER: then you go hide in a corner and read a book while it recharges
02:26:54 syv: It was my tertiary attack wand, so no.
02:27:17 ER: mana doesn't recharge while not in your hand, right?
02:27:30 syv: What? No, all wands regen all the time.
02:27:56 syv: You can easily have two burst wands which you swap between.
02:28:15 syv: It's one of the reasons that mana is like the *least* important stat.
02:28:53 Devastator: stop pushing your luck.
02:29:01 Devastator: you have 14 HP and were teleported into the middle of fungus.
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02:35:04 MidJag: Everyone still hooked on Noita?
02:35:35 Devastator: I think it's just me.
02:35:56 MidJag: Ah, I've been playing a bit of it, it's quite fun.
02:36:25 Devastator: I'm glad you liked Evil Dead II.
02:36:38 MidJag: That was a great movie, very happy about that.
02:37:58 Devastator: "Movie that makes best use of its lead actor'
02:39:11 MidJag: Heh, he has a very expressive face.
02:39:49 syv: It makes great use of him, he's it's strongest aspect, and he's very expressive...
02:40:04 syv: ...but I'd be very reluctant to say that it's the *best* at making use of its lead.
02:40:16 ER: spends most of the movie getting beaten up, has a chainsaw attached to his arm, says "groovy", gets back to being beaten up
02:40:38 Devastator: getting beat up is what he does best, though.
02:40:40 syv: In multiple ways, simultaneously.
02:40:51 syv: Yeah, it makes great use of that fact.
02:41:10 MidJag: I'm sure theres some obsecure movie that the only person on earth who has seen it is the director and
PW who have done it better :P
02:42:29 syv: Easy way to answer which film it is, then.
02:42:42 syv:
Piecewise, what film did you direct?
02:43:31 Piecewise: Do snuff films count?
02:48:25 Piecewise: Then "Drifter decapitation 4"
02:49:06 MidJag: Hey have we ever watched Akira?
02:49:24 Piecewise: I'm wearing an akira shirt right now
02:49:37 MidJag: WE should some time, I've heard it's cool.
02:49:40 Piecewise: One of my...three akira shirts?
02:49:53 syv: Of course, Dubs is the resident weeaboo.
02:50:07 Piecewise: Akira is worth watching even if you're not a weeb, because it is a landmark movie
02:50:33 Piecewise: it was basically the first time anime was anything other than cheap bullshit for kids, like japanese hanna barbara
02:51:48 syv: It also has an awesome arm?
02:51:53 Piecewise: It, along with blade runner, also helped create the cyberpunk genre as we know it
02:52:14 syv: You know, I didn't actually like Blade Runner.
02:52:31 MidJag: I've never actually seen Blade Runner
02:52:37 syv: It was decent and all, but... very eh.
02:53:05 Piecewise: I'm ok with blade runner but I very much admire its cinematography and minitures
02:53:25 Piecewise: It was probably one of the last great practical effects movies
02:55:41 Piecewise: Give akira a try some time
02:55:58 syv: Guess I'll go find a torrent.
02:56:09 syv: Who here has the fastest internet?
MJ?
02:58:44 syv:
MidJag? Can you download a torrent to test if the audio and everything's functional?
02:59:07 MidJag: You don't want me finding it that's for sure.
02:59:38 syv: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0a5f0c603d827f115196fa9f703c9cc48cd57205&dn=%5BReaktor%5D%20Akira%20-%2030th%20Anniversary%20%5B1080p%5D%5BBD%5D%5Bx265%5D%5B10-bit%5D%5BDual-Audio%5D&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fnyaa.tracker.wf%3A7777%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969%2Fanno
03:00:13 syv: The last word is cut off, I don't know if that matters.
03:00:23 syv: It's "announce", not just "anno"
03:02:39 MidJag: Hmm, not working for me as in I can't get it to start the torrent.
03:04:02 MidJag: or recognize it as it's supposed to be starting
03:06:47 syv: Try the magnet link button.
03:08:31 MidJag: I'll let you know when it get's done
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03:12:29 MidJag: 30 mintues near abouts.
03:24:31 MidJag: ve never fully understood this.
03:24:47 MidJag: Why is that anime always is a way bigger file size then movies?
03:24:54 MidJag: Or like live action movies
03:25:14 ER: I'd think they would compress better
03:25:30 syv: It's four gigs for a full size 1080p movie, what are you complaining about?
03:25:41 MidJag: I'm not, I'm just confused.
03:26:18 syv: In terms of torrents, it's prolly because live action films have a wider audience, so there's more likely to be a high-quality encode available.
03:27:38 MidJag: Hmm, so the fact that it's animation has no effect on the size itself?
03:27:59 MidJag: It's purely length and resolution?
03:28:33 syv: It shouldn't? If anything I'd expect animation to be smaller, lots of flat colors. But I'm no expert.
03:30:56 MidJag: We should do a cyberpunk movie night sometime. Like bladerunner and akira or something.
03:31:29 syv: A) Not bladerunner, because I've seen it and didn't care for it.
03:31:45 syv: B) We tend to find it hard enough to get time for *one* movie with all four of us.
03:57:24 Piecewise: Only for people with things to do
03:57:45 syv: In dig, how much would premade smoke grenades cost?
03:58:03 Piecewise: do we not have them in the armory?
03:58:26 syv: At least, not the rules doc?
04:00:06 MidJag: We have both subtitles, the original japenese, and two different English dubs.
04:00:46 MidJag: Seeminglly three different sets of English substitles and I have no idea what the difference is between them
04:00:59 Piecewise: maybe different fan subs
04:01:03 Piecewise: different interpretations
04:01:23 Piecewise: or maybe one is in ebonics
04:02:20 syv: Well, sounds like it works.
04:02:22 MidJag: No idea, theh're all labeled, one is just subtitles, with no other name, theres Nizick, Thora, and Vod sub are the other three.
04:02:39 Piecewise: Thora is a sub group
04:02:44 syv: Thora I recognize, though I don't know from where.
04:02:45 Piecewise: so yeah, three sub groups
04:02:51 MidJag: As for the dubs, there's streamline and Animaze.
04:03:00 MidJag: I assume different dub groups or something
04:03:35 MidJag: Animation looks quite nice as well, movie looks like it should be cool looking if nothing else.
04:03:50 syv: @
Piecewise, okay, so I checked the wiki just now 'cause I'll have to borrow from the team fund to buy anything, and the *wiki* armory does actually have smoke bombs. Priced at five fathoms.
04:06:34 syv: There's also suppressors listed, which yet again makes me feel sad that I chose to play a melee character.
04:06:36 MidJag: Streamline apperentlly does more Americanized dubs? Dunno if that would actually be a problem here though
04:07:43 ER: that meme's larger than I anticipated
04:10:11 syv: Coalguys is clearly the best.
04:11:10 syv: ...I may be biased though, since gg and Coalguys are the only actual names I recognize there. Beyond Crunchyroll.
04:13:43 syv: Dialog feels more realistic the more often fuck appears.
04:14:23 ER: fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
04:14:38 MidJag: I mean considering I know several people who can't get through a sentence without it...then yes it does~
04:16:16 Piecewise: Thats why people find Old texts difficult to connect with these days
04:16:40 Piecewise: What light through yonder fucking window breaks?
04:18:32 MidJag: There's a shitton of dirty jokes in Shakespere honestlly.
04:18:57 ER: shakespere is pretty good tbh
04:19:02 syv: Yeah, even his name is a masturbation joke.
04:21:49 MidJag: History would be much funnier if his name. was Shakepeter.
04:23:47 Devastator: assuming it wasn't the real shakespear. ;-p
04:40:08 MidJag: Peter "Swinining dick" Shakespear
04:40:18 MidJag: The lesser known nickname he had.
04:41:46 Devastator: Billy 'Ole one-eye' Shakespear.
04:43:18 MidJag: I'm telling my twin that's how he should refer to him the next time he has to write a paper on shakespere~
04:51:08 MidJag: Nah, too informal, "ole one eye" seems to be a nice comprimise :P
04:55:14 Devastator: Stiffy Shakespear, I knew him well.
04:56:47 MidJag: Hmm, Alright, well I'm going to bed gents.
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05:10:42 Devastator: "Fire emblem, except everyone is a bird."
05:11:29 Devastator: summon 'Steel Bird'
05:11:58 syv: There's already a pidgeon dating game, just stack some tactical combat on top of that and you've got Fire Emblem, right?
05:12:13 syv: (Disclaimer: I've never played Fire Emblem)
05:12:44 Devastator: The amount of that varies, but it's never small anymore.
05:12:45 ER: the one game I played was a lot more fighting
05:12:54 Devastator: yeah, a good amount of fighting.
05:13:19 syv: Hey,
ER, have you played Pidgeon Fucker?
05:13:40 ER: and mostly not about the main character's relationships with people so much as everyone's relationships with everyone else
05:15:07 syv: Hmm, I'm sad that the actual game is only the sixth result down for that name.
05:27:10 syv: I still love the fact that there's a VN in which you can romance genderswapped Putin.
05:29:45 Devastator: The only way to face the doctor and not be murdered is apparently to befriend another bird who happens to be a sorcerer and confronts him in an epic supernatural battle, at which point the dating game seriously turns into a turn-based RPG, with HP, powers, dramatic music and a final monster boss. And pigeons, of course.
05:30:02 syv: To my knowledge, there is so far no VN about romancing Kim. Yet.
05:30:27 syv: There's one which involves romancing Trump, I thimk, but that might have fallen through.
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