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01:28:49 PW: Nah, was just playing Distance
01:28:58 Devastator: That sounds generic.
01:29:05 PW: but I stopped because everything was tron
01:29:15 PW: and I couldn't make out what the heck was going on well enough
01:29:55 PW: neat system with flipping between tracks, flying, etc but became too trial and error because of the visual style for me
01:30:07 Devastator: another blind player!
01:30:36 PW: My eyes aren't bad though, its entirely mental
01:30:52 PW: my eyes are bad, but they're fixed with glasses
01:37:00 Devastator: might be timeskip time.
01:37:16 Devastator: deal with the gun, get some money, and timeskip.
01:39:44 Devastator: I meant in
paris's game.
01:40:16 PW: Thats why the non-committal answer. I had no idea what you were talking about.
01:43:44 Devastator: yes, big on just making shit up.
01:44:56 PW: anyone with extreme bias is
01:45:39 PW: You can't really hold an extreme view like that without very biased interpretations
01:45:47 Devastator: I remember talking with one some time ago where I had to tell him that the quote he was complaining about was made up by another right-winger and wasn't said by the person he was complaining about.
01:46:17 Devastator: actually, that one landed a bit.
01:46:49 Devastator: He got it straight from the other right-wingers article and I had the quotes right next to each other.
01:46:53 PW: Then again, I think people are coming to be simply tired of lies
01:47:23 PW: Was it taken out of context or misattributed or a flat out lie?
01:47:39 Devastator: just made up out of the air.
01:47:48 PW: not as common as the others
01:47:53 Devastator: "Look at this, it could be 100 trillion, with these assumptions I'm listing right here."
01:48:20 Devastator: "You know, the 100 trillion number you're quoting was made up by this person, here's the quote."
01:48:30 Devastator: I think it was 1.5 trillion not 100, but same idea.
01:50:12 Devastator: Plus that guy has a very personal beef with 'left-wingers' for some actual reasons. Basically went through ten years of litigation surrounded by people making shit up.
01:50:33 PW: yeah, I can understand being annoyed
01:50:52 PW: I got annoyed with left leaning people just from having to go to a very "progressive" college for a year
01:51:15 PW: let alone being falsely accused
01:51:41 PW: My main problem with them is that they tend to have a very negative view on things
01:51:55 Devastator: People who have never experienced actual hardship?
01:52:15 PW: I'm not gonna say that, I don't know them personally
01:52:38 PW: Once in class we were talking about...communication or something.
01:54:09 PW: And someone was talking about how white people or rich people (same thing in their eyes) always do stuff to feel superior while secretly being racist. And I said what amounts to "I don't think you can make a broad judgement like that" and the end point was them saying that literally every volunteer or charity that helps people in the third world or in times of crisis is just secretly racist.
01:54:26 Devastator: That's the progressive point of view?
01:54:37 PW: That is the progressive point of view right now
01:54:51 PW: at least the progressive view espoused in colleges
01:55:32 Devastator: Especially medical, damn.
01:55:48 PW: I will say that it isn't the entire college
01:55:54 Devastator: "Hey, I'm working to stamp out Ebola. I'm secretly doing it to be racist."
01:55:58 PW: it is concentrated in specific sections
01:56:10 PW: Psychology? Communications?
01:56:40 PW: basically anything that isn't a hard science has drank the coolaid
01:57:04 PW: The irony of course is that these people saying that sort of thing are
01:57:29 PW: 3. Generally have some very patronizing logic hidden in their ideas
01:57:57 Devastator: The most loony-tunes guy I met at college was filipino, actually.
01:58:19 Devastator: although I did work with a dumb fucking racist asshole white last summer.
02:08:48 Devastator: I did also meet a pretty whacked electronics prof, but it looked more like he'd destroyed his brain with weed.
02:14:17 ER: liberuls around here seem pretty sane
02:14:56 ER: maybe they just go bad in the skeleton hellscape that is the west coast
02:16:15 Devastator: Do you feel it's a racist policy to enforce racial quotas in hiring and school acceptance?
02:16:46 ER: what they call affirmative action?
02:18:14 ER: it's racist in that it defines people by race and can end up treating them differently, but it can still be helpful, I think.
02:18:31 Devastator: Should be fine then.
02:19:23 ER: Ideally we'd be able to bury the whole idea of race as a fiction invented by imperialists to justify abusing people, but we really can't at this point in time.
02:20:55 ER: white people have some advantage in things like getting jobs, so artificially correcting against that could give oppertunities to people who wouldn't get them otherwise.
02:21:17 Devastator: Nah, 'not us' predates imperialism. I'd certainly agree with you for some concepts related to 'race', though.
02:22:14 ER: why should I care about someone's well-being just because they're related to me?~
02:22:33 Devastator: because it's a positive survival benefit!
02:24:02 Devastator: Also, it helps maintain genetic diversity.
02:24:36 ER: sounds like a problem for future generations.
02:24:49 Devastator: Ahh, the call of the liberal. ;-p
02:25:18 ER: have I claimed to be a liberal in this conversation?
02:28:01 Devastator: it wouldn't be as funny if I called it the call of the conservative..
02:28:11 Devastator: Or progressive, for that matter, due to the human extinctionists.
02:28:44 ER: bah, killing all the humans now would just regress the progress!
02:29:02 Devastator: Draggy's doing good.
02:29:02 ER: gotta invent AI or uplift the birds first
02:29:25 ER: then we can all die, having served as a vital intermediate step
02:29:41 Devastator: Also accomplished by having kids.
02:29:53 Devastator: or by not having kids.
02:31:09 ER: bah, too many humans already. should study to be an AI resreacher so I can have a computer daughter
02:31:43 Devastator: The main issue is that you don't know anything about what you make, or have any ownership of it.
02:32:39 Devastator: eh, you get some input with kids.
02:32:48 Devastator: and they come after you if you pull the plug.
02:35:12 Devastator: anyway, be back home tomorrow.
02:35:16 Devastator: might start kaiju-com.
02:35:19 Devastator: then or the day after.
02:36:00 Devastator: Yeah, should be ok.
02:36:15 ER: then I can start the totally cool and mysterious secret orginization, Emerald Raptor
02:36:23 Devastator: I want to get everyone ready for turn 2 on monday.
02:39:24 ER: maybe RTD so it's easier for me to find :P
02:41:37 Devastator: I wouldn't mind a few players not from here, though.
02:41:57 Devastator: with the two classes I'd like to have at least six players.
02:41:58 ER: there are some not-here RTD plays!
02:43:38 Devastator: but I'd be fine with six players.
02:43:46 Devastator: I wouldn't mind you guys as you'd stick around.
02:44:00 Devastator: and you're all fun.
02:44:18 Devastator: You also tend to do things.
02:45:32 Devastator: Lots of people don't really do much in games.
02:45:52 ER: lots of people, such as me~
02:47:01 Devastator: and you seem to have some plans.
02:49:28 Devastator: I've played DF longer than that guy has played minecraft.
02:49:39 Devastator: hell, I think I've played MINECRAFT longer than that guy has played minecraft.
02:50:34 ER: I may have played minecraft before you, depending on when that was
02:51:03 ER: was back when it was a little browser game where you could place or remove blocks
02:52:57 Devastator: I think I got the link from here, so at least one of you has played it longer.
02:54:05 Devastator: no idea where I heard about DF from.
02:54:14 Devastator: Well, some tech site most likely.
02:54:14 ER: I found it from... a site called jayisgames, which reviewed mostly browser games
02:54:32 Devastator: not somewhere with a lot of followers.
02:54:37 Devastator: reach is the term, right?
02:54:40 ER: I'm pretty sure DF has Always Been
02:54:44 Devastator: Yeah, I think that was it.
02:54:56 Devastator: some tech site talking about some madman's experiment.
02:55:06 Devastator: about a week after it became public.
02:55:13 Devastator: maybe only a few days.
02:56:24 ER: I knew about DF for a long time, I just didn't care~
02:56:57 ER: then I looked it up, downloaded it, didn't really like it, but stayed for the forums and the excellent devlogs.
02:57:26 Devastator: I heard about it, downloaded it, played it, hung around the forums for a week or two and then signed up.
02:57:35 Devastator: I liked it, but never played it that much at a go.
03:00:12 Devastator: whatever
ER is. ;-p
03:00:42 ER: it was a fun read to follow up until Heph, then I got bored and left.
03:01:01 Devastator: I joined at the worst time possible, really.
03:01:23 Devastator: a week before the last mission before it was a rebellion and not a prison where you were supposed to escape from.
03:02:24 Devastator: spent like a month trying to talk
PW into simulating cribbage, which isn't the best card game to sim over a forum, really.
03:02:35 Devastator: also one he didn't know.
03:03:32 Devastator: Got to watch a mission that was quite pointless, really, the planet got -9ed, nobody cared because the actual mission was to kill a guy who could have been killed at any moment, and everyone save one player was walking around pointlessly.
03:03:44 ER: there, it's a simulated card game
03:04:00 ER: at an appropriate level of complexity for an RTD...
03:05:07 Devastator: Yeah, that would have worked better.
03:05:21 ER: the whole planet didn't get ninesed, just a city
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03:05:48 Devastator: The capital. And outlying districts. And a good chunk of the countryside.
03:05:51 Devastator: close enough really.
03:06:04 Devastator: assuming it didn't just get all -9ed, which was possible.
03:06:13 ER:
NJW's version of Dead Man Running was pretty much killed by exactly simming out a card game
03:06:14 Devastator:
Syv was looking for you.
03:06:28 Devastator: You didn't get your save uploaded right.
03:06:32 ER: in a game that had character stats for Int and such
03:06:36 Devastator: you have the files, but no save data.
03:08:11 MidJag: I'llsee If I can fix that
03:09:21 Devastator: Also, found a poster earlier in awful hospital,
ER.
03:09:26 Devastator: "Please gel responsably."
03:12:10 Devastator: well hey, more hearts for ferp.
03:15:24 Devastator: she didn't gel responsibly.
03:16:08 MidJag: I'm curious what the plan is here.
03:16:41 MidJag: So this was not the thing everyone thought it was right?
03:18:42 Devastator: I think someone knew what it was.. if it was the other thing different actions would have done that.
03:18:53 Devastator: it might have been whatever the buzzers thought it was.
03:20:06 MidJag: I rember theres a guide for furlers or whatever.
03:20:15 MidJag: But I can't rember where it is.
03:20:57 Devastator: it's actually a folder.
03:21:47 MidJag: Right, and I don't think we know what to do with it.
03:22:28 ER: which is also what the other characters thought it was at first
03:23:32 Devastator: stabby! If it dies it can't kill ferp!
03:23:42 MidJag: I see. I am curious where that guide is though, I can't seem to find it.
03:26:45 MidJag: It's done by bogleech of course, but I don't think it's ever something Fern has foudn.
03:27:21 ER: go to the library, scroll down to Other Canon Media
03:27:29 Devastator: Also found Phage making a map of the parliament at the same time as the 'gel responsibly' poster.
03:27:57 Devastator: If we put him inside a body, it might snap him out of it.
03:27:57 ER: it's Borfladge, which has a few articles
03:29:23 MidJag: So we have no idea what to do with a folder then.
03:29:36 MidJag: Beyond that it want's to get rid of gells more than a furler
03:30:01 Devastator: but apparently not all the gels.
03:30:07 Devastator: Maybe ferp should have just kept sucking.
03:30:41 MidJag: I think we'd run out of Health first
03:30:49 ER: that would be, well, predatory
03:30:51 MidJag: Unless Willis transfuses us.
03:31:15 Devastator: lotsa things tried ta predate Fern.
03:31:38 ER: also Miss would probably try to stop Fern regardless, because the fight's hurting everyone in the room
03:31:56 MidJag: This has gotten a tad out of hand.
03:32:32 ER: and Miss appears to be pretty powerful, if just because that's what happens to zonehopping greys who survive long enough
03:34:53 MidJag: "he was a very old man in a very dangerous proffesion."
03:38:54 MidJag: I guess it makes sense that greys can be strong if they survive long enough
03:47:40 MidJag: Also that DF file should be reuploaded
04:11:18 Devastator: Jay is the only plain gray we've seen, right?
04:11:25 Devastator: Be interesting to see like an ape.
04:11:36 Devastator: Was considering saying 'dolphin', but dolphins are assholes.
04:12:07 ER: Jay certainly didn't seem, uh, normal
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04:12:29 Devastator: Ferp isn't normal either, though.
04:13:01 ER: never really found out why he was blue
04:13:18 Devastator: connextions with blue zone, mayhaps.
04:17:20 ER: "you're not a good person, you know. *good* people don't end up *here*."
04:17:40 Devastator: You branchinated, you idiot.
04:17:56 Devastator: Doesn't ferp look not-green to others?
04:18:01 Devastator: But jay is blue to her.
04:18:14 ER: she looks not-green to herself
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04:34:17 Devastator: god, dwarf with flying mount.
04:35:07 Devastator: the giant beaver is better ;-p
04:35:41 Devastator: beavers aren't wimpy.
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04:38:59 Devastator: beavers aren't wimpy.
04:39:20 Devastator: Also,
MJ, prequel updated the other day.
04:39:34 MidJag: I never quite got why Jay was hated with the sheer vehemancy. Like yeah he's a dick and crazy, but he's also died a billion times and has been stuck in an endless loop for what to him is eternity.
04:40:07 Devastator: Just being imprisoned in an inescapable cage is no reason to get angry.
04:40:46 Devastator: mostly I think it was the randomness of it.
04:40:58 ER: I think something was seriously wrong with him that the hospital was supposed to be able to fix or treat, but it couldn't.
04:41:24 Devastator: parliament-infected wound, maybe.
04:41:31 ER: see how his injury and weapon kept changing, and how messed up his journal was
04:42:19 ER: I wouldn't say it's a parlament thing
04:42:30 Devastator: I mean, turned him into slob every time.
04:42:34 ER: given how effed up the multiverse is
04:42:34 Devastator: slobs are old flesh.
04:43:00 ER: could just be something "naturally occuring" that the hopsital just isn't in shape to mend
04:43:09 MidJag: What do you mean by randomness of it
dev?
04:43:13 Devastator: we saw slobification occur from a bunny getting infected with slob thing.
04:43:24 Devastator: He didn't have any coherant strategy other than wander about and shoot things.
04:43:55 Devastator: If he was a jackass who only showed up at important moments and then shot things, he'd get a fanbase.
04:45:42 Devastator: plus I think maggy told us there were other parliament dupes like Jay wandering around.
04:46:50 Devastator: Erfworld is terrible now. What happened to it?
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07:12:05 ER: "bitheocratic conciliatory cooperative" is an interesting government type. :P
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07:36:09 Devastator: back, but slp time.
08:43:54 ER: in settings where low level mages are weak in combat and there exist ways of shutting them down from magic
08:44:21 ER: a good low level spell to learn is a way to induce catatonia in yourself
08:44:42 ER: so that you won't have to expereince your own excruciating death
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18:52:16 parisbre56: why waste a spell slot on a cyanide pill?
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