00:00:24 Devastator: Yeah, more or less.
00:00:27 Devastator: gah, more migrants.
00:18:09 PW: Ok so that guy has no fucking credibility
00:19:53 PW: I started to watch his "Why are you so angry" video on Anita Sarkeesian and got about 5 minutes in
00:20:18 PW: Not only does he heavily censor and rewrite history, he fucking showed a BroTeam tweet and labeled it harassment.
00:22:04 ER: I never liked broteam so I'm fine with this.
00:22:26 PW: you don't have to like broteam to realize that he's not a harrasser
00:22:49 ER: I couldn't say one way or the other.
00:23:04 ER: ...And I don't necessarially trust you to know.
00:23:32 PW: He makes fun of literally anything. He had a whole video about "Playing" dating sites in which he just expounded on how terrible men on them treat people
00:24:48 Devastator: The word you're looking for is "projection."
00:25:31 PW: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
00:26:09 PW: regardless, this guy seems to be the left leaning equivalent of those equally dishonest guys like....Sarkan? Guy who used the statue.
00:26:26 PW: there are a lot of right leaning idiots who use animated avatars these days
00:26:47 PW: that and guys who just read news stories into a camera and pause to complain
00:27:32 PW: If its political and on youtube I stay away from it because there is no truth out there
00:27:36 PW: just different flavors of lies
00:28:11 ER: personally, I believe in truth.
00:30:39 Devastator: because reading is hard.
00:30:45 PW: Because, like that guy, literally anything I've seen that is connected to politics is always skewed. Those videos for instance remind me of the Boomer-bait articles talking about how millennials are ruining everything
00:31:11 PW: They take a true situation and lie via omission or interpretation or just flat out
00:31:22 ER: certainly doesn't seem scewed to me.
00:33:10 PW: I'd argue that just proves you and he see things through the same lens
00:34:27 PW: As per lying through omission I'll give you one example from that Anita video.
00:35:14 PW: They talk at length about how she is harassed imply that it is extreme or otherwise exaggerated because she is a women speaking out about feminism
00:36:08 PW: However statistical analysis of tweets to her and feminist frequency show that while she definitely does get threats and harassment, it is actually on par or slightly lower than equally famous people (Judged on the metric of twitter followers)
00:36:49 PW: So no, its not right that they do it
00:36:56 PW: And it is a very sad thing that they do
00:37:10 ER: does that mean he can't talk about it?
00:38:06 PW: No? It just means that when you bring it up and imply she is being specifically or overwhelmingly targeted more than other public figures that he's being disingenuous.
00:38:49 PW: Much like when right wingers imply she faked those tweets or provoked them intentionally
00:39:06 ER: I haven't watched that video, I dunno, but didn't you say this was enough that you didn't watch the rest of the video?
00:39:51 PW: I mean...I've heard the exact same argument and coverage a dozen times so I assumed he wouldn't touch on that. Shall I watch the entire thing to see if he does?
00:40:15 PW: Should I watch every trump speech to see if he suddenly stops being a racist toddler?
00:41:18 ER: so you've thrown out his whole channel because the first 5 minutes sounds similar to other stuff that's bunk?
00:42:54 PW: Anyone who makes dozens of videos mocking a political group doesn't strike me as the most balanced. Also he uses a meme template for them, which I find mildly nauseating
00:43:44 PW: Honestly I don't watch anything like that. I avoid political or social stuff entirely
00:43:57 PW: because it all strikes me as too biased
00:44:24 PW: And also it takes time out of my busy schedule of watching anime
00:45:27 PW: The alt right videos might be ok if they rely on humor though
00:46:18 PW: I watch Last Week Tonight sometimes, even though John Oliver is horribly unbalanced in his portrayals (And also a liar)
00:46:29 PW: but its funny so I don't mind so much
00:47:55 PW: Mostly though, if you say something bad about broteam I'm turning you off
00:48:47 PW: that fat gay canadian manchild is a saint
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00:52:00 midnightjaguar: How’re you dubs?
00:52:34 PW: I think
ER likes me even less now though
00:53:04 PW: Hey
MJ you're in school right?
00:54:08 midnightjaguar: Pretty well. Parts of Sophomore year were rough, but junior year has more promise
00:54:43 midnightjaguar: Microbiology and Biological Anthropolgy. I’m pre med.
00:55:11 PW: Whats the end point for ya? Microbiology MD?
00:55:26 midnightjaguar: MD PhD hopefully.
00:56:13 midnightjaguar: Your not wrong. ~
00:56:33 PW: I'll be happy with the masters I'm going for
00:56:50 midnightjaguar: In like radiology right?
00:56:53 PW: though I'd honestly just stay in school forever if it made money
00:57:13 midnightjaguar: Heh yeah, I enjoy school.
00:57:45 Devastator: definately a whee degree there.
00:58:19 PW: You'll definitely be making the big bucks if you manage to not drown in debt
00:59:00 PW: thanks exponentially increasing price of education
00:59:12 PW: unless you're in not america
00:59:26 midnightjaguar: I’m not sure I follow
dev.
00:59:48 Devastator: it's one of those ones where when you tell people what you do, it just stops the conversation.
00:59:48 midnightjaguar: But like what is a whee degree?
00:59:53 PW: I get to put radiation in the elderly!
01:00:39 midnightjaguar: But yeah dubs I am American.
01:00:59 PW: xrays so hot they'll make your lead shielding shit neutrons!
01:01:22 PW: my god have mercy on your bank account
01:03:05 midnightjaguar: Yeah. Luckily I’m on scholarship for undergrad so for right now it’s not bad. The rest of it though will not be fun.
01:07:27 ER: I like you presisely as much as I did before,
PW~
01:08:31 ER: it was already my opinion that you're a filthy centrist, which is why I posted that playlist with a tilde!
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02:29:55 syv: Have I mentioned that AT&T sucks, today? Because they do.
02:32:41 syv: How long will you be here,
MJ?
02:34:46 MidJag_: Not long. Working on my procedure.
02:41:56 syv: Ehh. Working days, plus Dorian is causing family to go crazy.
02:42:14 MidJag_: Well at least you get to see the sun
02:42:50 syv: I lost my prescription sunglasses somehow, so that's kinda actually terrible. Waaay too bright.
02:43:19 syv: Moving to an actually stable house tomorrow, which will make things worse. Lots of family inside one building, under stress, is terrible.
02:44:30 syv: You? Anything fun happening 'sides the experiment?
02:44:31 ER: tell them to chill the heck out~
02:45:20 syv: Mm. Does that work for you when you try it?
02:45:57 ER: mostly my family and people around me don't freak out
02:48:06 MidJag_: I've mostly been very sleep deprived. My schedule for the past two weeks has been, wake up at 8AM, go to class, come back from class and then have a rush party at my fraternity house.
02:48:51 MidJag_: It's been fun, but tireing.
02:49:02 ER: also I live in a place which hurricanes can't touch so ha
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02:50:02 MidJag_: mountains are nice for that
ER
02:50:20 ER: no tornados, not hurricanes, no earthquakes.
02:50:45 syv: @
ER lucky you, half of my family is neurotic.
02:51:24 MidJag_: Yeah that sounds like it sucks
syv
02:52:07 ER: I have a nice big family of mostly sane people
02:52:39 ER: can't pick your family, but I rolled pretty well for them anyways? *shrug*
02:59:58 ER: watched boring videos, signed things...
03:00:41 syv: Did you check the fine print? Make sure you keep your soul?
03:01:10 syv: Though I guess it's hard to be competitive in the job market while keeping that.
03:01:22 MidJag_: Nah, just sell someone elses
03:01:38 ER: joke's on them, my soul's a boomerang soul
03:01:57 ER: when you steal it it absorbs your energy and returns to me
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03:22:26 PW: Speaking of monopolies, did you hear that someone at monopoly released not only a Monopoly "Socialism" edition but also a "Millennial" edition.
03:22:51 PW: as though we needed more proof that Monoploy is controlled by the most tedious kind of people
03:23:05 MidJag_: I'm curious how the socalist edition works.
03:25:08 syv: I, as well, would love to know if there's any actual changes to the game.
03:25:19 syv: Though I presume it's just a new skin for the same exact boring game.
03:27:35 PW: actually its basically just a mean spirited "Fuck Socialism" rant in a box
03:28:34 PW: Which...Ok the original monopoly was a satire on the failings of capitalism
03:28:52 PW: so I'd be fine with something satirizing the failings of socialism
03:28:59 ER: which was then stolen by capitalists~
03:29:25 syv: Minimum wage increases! This is bad and evil!
03:29:43 PW: Yeah its basically like the ranting of someone during the red scare
03:30:47 PW: that combined with the millennial edition where you own "Experiences" and not property makes me think they don't really understand parody.
03:30:49 syv: I wanna see gun monopoly. Or gun control monopoly.
03:31:18 MidJag_: I don't think monopoly undestand anything but boredom
03:32:00 PW: I'm not sure who keeps buying monopoly
03:32:05 PW: I've never met anyone who likes it
03:32:26 syv: I liked it, when I was nine. I liked Risk more, though.
03:32:47 MidJag_: Risk was more fun I agree.
03:33:39 syv: It's much better as a play-by-email rather than a bored game, though.
03:34:16 ER: the last time I played risk was years ago, it was Lord of the Rings risk, it took 9 hours, and I lost despite my enormous orc army
03:35:07 PW: Risk's reliance on dice keeps it from being a good strategy game according to most people
03:35:07 syv: Oh, I had a LotR skin of risk. It had neat little figures, and some actual bonus mechanics that mattered.
03:35:50 ER: there was a ring that moved from the shire to mount doom
03:35:51 PW: Most people being the boardgame losers who would prefer a nice 10 hour game of War of the ring
03:36:41 syv: Yup, my LotR risk had that too, though I don't really recall how it affected the game.
03:37:00 ER: I was at the end of the game and super turtled in mordor, I moved my forces to look for the ring as it was moving through shelob's lair, then the human forces hit me in the undefended black gate and I lost.
03:37:13 MidJag_: I swear to god my brother had the most insanse luck with dice, he would regualrly destory giant armies with like 2 guys
03:37:14 ER: which is kinda backwards, but close enough
03:37:42 syv: You turtled JUST in Mordor? It's basically Australia, though, how did you have enough armies to just be attritioned to death?
03:39:20 ER: not like I recorded it, and it was years ago
03:40:54 syv: Found my version, yep, ring track, Mordor is worth 2 apt, and has 6 territories.
03:41:23 syv: Also there's PILES of little character bits, these things are great.
03:42:02 syv: I apparently mixed basic Risk cannons into the armies?
03:43:34 syv: There's ogres which look like bawling bodybuilder babies.
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03:49:52 ER: silly internet, dropping like that
03:54:41 ER: anyway, I'm going to go walk to the pizza place and have a pizza like a silly person
04:22:15 Devastator: Monopoly's not so bad with the auction rule, but there are better games.
04:22:21 Devastator: Anyone played Unstable Unicorns?
04:47:04 PW: Though I was actually setting up for a game of catacombs
04:47:34 PW: The Gelatinous cube will ride again.
04:52:05 PW: Honestly doubt the players will make it through
05:20:54 ER: I really shouldn't have let my angel game die. I probably needed to limit player count more.
05:35:14 ER: guess it makes me think of that game because the demons in that were supposed to be spontainious manifestations of pure "fuck god"-ness
05:36:54 syv: You know, you also shouldn't let Tactihell die.
05:39:00 syv: Lock the thread if it's dead, then.
05:41:16 syv: Because my prior statement would be nonsensical if Tactihell is already dead, and I don't really see another way to make that statement a nonsequitur without changing the definitions of words.
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07:10:23 Devastator: unicorns is good fun.
09:38:23 ER: we're in a fight in Awful Hospital
09:38:36 ER: Ferp has some queer options at the moment.
09:43:31 ER: buzzers ranting about borfladge and green zones down there, I just want to see ms green use an exospinal quill
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18:27:33 parisbre56: but in this particular case she's being nice
18:27:50 parisbre56: what's the right word?
18:28:53 Devastator: any more plans for the two of you?
18:29:01 Devastator: I mean, it sounds ok, but I'm not sure where this is going.
18:29:19 Devastator: I am wondering how you could just adopt someone into your family like that.
18:30:01 Devastator: If it works there might be some funky magical girl stuff.
18:30:56 Devastator: or is she not going to sleep there?
18:31:02 parisbre56: hey, it's a common trope
18:31:12 parisbre56: the mysterious exchange student
18:31:42 Devastator: So where is Sophia from?
18:31:46 parisbre56: the intention is to excuse this first night as a sleepover
18:31:49 parisbre56: then... I guess we'll see
18:32:04 parisbre56: btw,
ER, if you're reading this
18:32:10 parisbre56: sorry for not replying sooner
18:32:33 parisbre56: was not in the mood to RP
18:32:33 Devastator: I don't mean where she's really from, I mean according to Ada.
18:32:33 parisbre56: too stressed, I think
18:33:23 parisbre56: yeah. lots of thing to do, both with work and in the home
18:33:37 parisbre56: my brother's visiting with his girlfriend
18:33:45 parisbre56: had to prepare a bunch of things
18:33:59 Devastator: ooh, yeah, that's always stressful.
18:34:04 Devastator: clean up all the bodies.
18:34:55 parisbre56: oh, btw, if you're reading this
syv
18:35:06 parisbre56: feel free to move things forward with us
18:35:17 parisbre56: we're just making silly RP
18:35:49 parisbre56: I'm hoping I might get to RP discovering how Telekinesis or Ruler's Rune works
18:36:12 parisbre56: but if it doesn't work that way or you wanna move on I won't mind
18:36:16 Devastator: RR might be tough to explain.
18:36:26 Devastator: be good insight for me, I don't really know shit about it either.
18:36:27 parisbre56: better to get to the action
18:36:56 Devastator: Maybe you can use it to make super-gear.
18:37:09 parisbre56: well, there are opportunities. maybe Sophia doesn't give the bottles and I want to take them
18:37:12 Devastator: "Inside this area, steel is even better!"
18:37:18 parisbre56: or for a more funny situation
18:38:17 parisbre56: maybe I hide the bottle opener in my pants, Sophia tries to grab them and just then Ada's dad walks in and completely misunderstands the situation
18:38:28 Devastator: Always a good thing that.
18:38:32 parisbre56: Ada panics and TKs Sophia away
18:39:59 Devastator: TK the door shut sounds more likely.
18:41:22 parisbre56: well, don't most American homes have open kitchens?
18:41:34 parisbre56: I guess it could happen in her room
18:41:37 Devastator: I've seen ones with open kitchens.
18:41:45 Devastator: and yeah, thought you'd be taking her to your room.
18:41:48 parisbre56: in which case yeah, going for the door would make more sense
18:43:53 parisbre56: as for ruler's rune, it could be something silly like drawing a line on the floor and saying "this side of the room is mine, you may not enter or bother me here" and that somehow triggering a related effect
18:44:10 parisbre56: then again, I don't know how using abilities works
18:44:26 parisbre56: if it's something that needs to be consciously triggered, like moving a muscle
18:44:37 Devastator: I'm eager to find out.
18:44:38 parisbre56: or if it's triggered by intent alone
18:46:50 Devastator: Hmm, you have level 2, right?
18:46:59 Devastator: You might be able to make the borders of it hardish.
18:47:11 Devastator: ie, the place isn't a solid barrier, but there's something there.
18:47:22 Devastator: air doesn't mix right.
18:50:51 Devastator: RRing your bedroom is probably a good idea anyway.
18:51:27 Devastator: Ooh, Chev responded quickly. We might get some answers from Pumsy.
18:51:33 Devastator: or find out how he escapes being grabbed.
18:52:15 parisbre56: well, his body doesn't matter, since he can be in many places at once. So maybe he'll just start beeping
18:52:21 parisbre56: do the predator laugh
18:52:46 parisbre56: then again, he does seem to want to stay alive
18:53:02 Devastator: maybe he'll vanish.
18:53:06 parisbre56: or at least does a good job pretending to want that
18:53:24 Devastator: maybe vanish by temporarily stunning Tooru.
18:53:42 Devastator: ie, he's gone, but not because he vanished, because Tooru stopped functioning for a moment.
18:53:58 parisbre56: didn't he put her family to sleep that one time?
18:54:07 parisbre56: maybe he can do that to her
18:55:09 parisbre56: maybe it'll be a purity roll, since from what I understand he can't control magical girls and their magic very well
18:55:19 parisbre56: otherwise he'd just use it himself
18:55:20 Devastator: Did he actually say that?
18:55:33 Devastator: I mean, he said he doesn't have much of their magic.
18:55:38 Devastator: but that doesn't mean he can't control them.
18:55:58 Devastator: Plus maybe he lies.
18:57:38 Devastator: Also, I think he said witches have hardly any magical girl magic left, which seems to be true, but they have plenty of witch magic.
18:57:43 Devastator: so maybe he just has different magic.
18:58:09 Devastator: different magic and L1 everything.
18:59:41 parisbre56: would be fun to see what happens if he eats a grief seed
19:00:00 parisbre56: becomes a bigger, more powerful tiger
19:00:05 Devastator: Can give them to him, after all.
19:00:14 Devastator: Dunno, I'd expect someone to have done that already.
19:00:23 Devastator: there are a good number of witches about.
19:00:48 Devastator: Can you tap a grief seed to get another use from a grief seed you like better?
19:01:16 Devastator: Like say you don't want one level in Love, and want to use it to get two cracks at some other kind..
19:01:42 Devastator: probably better to feed that to Pumsy to get max soul and levels.
19:09:06 parisbre56: anyway, should be going soon
19:09:10 parisbre56: thanks for the chat
19:09:29 parisbre56: and for the random burrito violence
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19:10:21 Devastator: Burrito violence is generally welcome.
20:31:35 Devastator: "I think we can assume the officers somehow shot out their own windshield."
20:53:05 Devastator: I want to see Ferp attacking with an exospinal quill.
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