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04:59:19 Devastator: apparently I'm a wuss in dridergame.
04:59:33 Devastator: maybe I'd change if you went with the mana regen upgrade.
05:03:49 ER: it's nice, but I'd rather either heal up or go hard.
05:10:32 Devastator: I mean, even with bigger demon arm, we really aren't strong enough to matter.
05:10:40 Devastator: everything's either trivial or twenty times as hard.
05:10:52 Devastator: so giving up some strength should be ok.
05:11:24 ER: but what if we could take a shortcut to the higher power level? ;P
05:12:42 Devastator: I think the best way to do that is to eat something.
05:12:49 Devastator: maybe talk with the giant claw spirit.
05:12:55 Devastator: and eat it/ release it.
05:14:59 Devastator: we could also research curses and try to tune our vampirism.
05:15:49 Devastator: be nice to be able to heal safely against infected creatures, and maybe spend blood for temporary power.
05:19:36 Devastator: I wouldn't mind being a pyromaniac except for the fact we're supposed to fight a dragon.
05:21:13 Devastator: miiiight take a lot, though.
05:21:20 Devastator: easier to just learn lightning.
05:21:42 ER: those aren't the options we have
05:21:53 Devastator: Yeah they are. Just not for this level.
05:22:09 Devastator: I do want to find another one of those deathless creatures and send those spirits to death.
05:22:15 Devastator: Death might like that and send us something.
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06:10:36 Devastator: no orders, no tachell.
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10:41:13 Piecewise: Nothing like waking up at 3am
10:41:59 Piecewise: guess I'll get to work
10:50:44 Devastator: Just been watching vids too long.
10:54:41 Piecewise: happens to the best of us
10:55:10 Devastator: Yeah day off, so I'm going to continue down this rabbit hole..
10:56:02 Devastator: Also thought of a couple fun and simple archetypes for my game-breaking character in Nakéen's monstergame, to help improve understanding and make things more fun for everyone.
10:56:21 Devastator: iow, I'm doing things wrong, but here's these things that would fit into the world that I'd like to do.
10:56:51 Devastator: and here's a way to think about motivations and some goals that are sensible and work properly, while still allowing me to proceed on the path of wrecking everything.
10:59:58 Devastator: so things should go more smoothly.
11:02:10 Devastator: "The powerful creatures I want to kill are almost exclusively assholes who go around murdering the weak to fuel their own ambitions. I'm trying to defend the weak, because these terrible luck rolls at the start of the campaign have lead to everyone I know being killed by powerful monsters in a few days."
11:03:21 Devastator: "Letting the weird magic essence stuff that makes them into powerful creatures expire without being used is my way of rejecting their behavior and drawing a line between myself and them."
11:06:31 Devastator: I'm tired and should shut up.
11:22:31 Piecewise: Don't worry about it
11:22:38 Piecewise: I was finishing double king
11:23:12 Piecewise: in that game you get xp for killing things right?
11:23:25 Piecewise: level up in the real world, basically
11:23:40 Piecewise: what about employees at a slaughter house?
11:23:48 Piecewise: They kill thousands of cows a day
11:23:54 Piecewise: maybe more than thousands
11:24:08 Piecewise: even if they're relatively low XP, they get a lot of them
11:26:56 Devastator: Humans can't eat essence. They spawn heros that work differently.
11:27:13 Devastator: At the start of the game almost all creatures were the same, but currently only a minority of those are left.
11:31:38 Piecewise: Do you have to kill directly?
11:31:49 Piecewise: Or can you kill via like..poison or disease?
11:32:58 Piecewise: If so, demon mosquito might be OP
11:33:35 Devastator: You have to be there when something dies.
11:33:59 Devastator: you can't pull it out of them without being a very powerful creature already.
11:34:13 Devastator: You don't have to kill it yourself, if you're there to take it anyway.
11:48:37 Piecewise: So can you get xp from killing anything?
11:50:13 Devastator: Yeah. Pure mundane creatures grant xp too, just the minimum of one point.
11:51:36 Devastator: That's basically what every single other character has been doing.
11:53:58 Devastator: except the ones who have levelled to the point where they can't get xp from the minimum strength creatures.
11:54:10 Devastator: and one other who has different things going on.
11:58:04 Piecewise: Can you get xp from killing other monsters?
11:58:51 Devastator: Absolutely. Every creature is a monster, and that's how you get xp.
11:59:06 Devastator: Presumably also humans, but most monsters haven't encountered many humans, so I'm not sure.
12:02:38 Devastator: I'm betting humans drop like level-0 creatures and heroes drop more, although they're on a different scale.
12:04:59 Piecewise: A dedicated player hunter might be a good idea if you're tricksy
12:06:42 Devastator: Big world, the most experienced player said that there has been only one meeting between players.
12:07:05 Devastator: I may well do that, but there's going to be dozens of nasty creatures in every direction, so...
12:09:11 Devastator: there is absolutely no difficulty in finding targets.
12:16:17 Devastator: going with a very ridiculous full-on-offense build.
12:16:32 Devastator: the difficult part is not getting one-shotted due to facing opponents that do 3x damage on their damage rolls.
12:18:10 Devastator: with 12 HP, it's about 50-50 to get one-shotted if I fail a defense roll.
12:19:49 Devastator: on the plus side, if I run into a magic creature I'll basically completely dominate the target and get another very suprising win.
12:21:25 Devastator: Magic attacks have very big advantages over physical ones, and a magic creature is supposed to basically torch stage-1 creatures like mine. It'll have something like +2 on it's 1d12 or 1d16 attack roll, and normally do x2 or x3 damage, with probably a plus to it before the multiplier.
12:21:44 Devastator: against my char, it'll be rolling against d14 defending, and do 1x or 0.5x instead.
12:22:05 Devastator: and probably be facing the reverse side of the double or triple damage issue.
12:24:27 Devastator: Against a physical creature, I have about 50-50 odds of getting a knockout in a one-on-one fight immediately, before the odds of ID trigger against me, so decent odds if I don't get swarmed.
12:24:41 Devastator: so basically quite geared to take on big creatures and not small ones.
12:28:16 Devastator: There are a few good ways to beat my char cold, and I've seen the GM use them before, but they might not come up.
12:52:16 Devastator: or I'll just hit the 5% or so odds of dying in any combat round.
13:54:27 Devastator: KROD CONSIDERS SELF MILITANT AGNOSTIC KROD KNOW NOT WHAT TO BELIEVE AND HE IS VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT
13:56:29 Piecewise: does it use dnd rules?
13:56:50 Devastator: No, monstergame uses it's own homebrew system.
14:07:48 Piecewise: Well lets do a cabal turn
14:09:35 Devastator: hope DA PLAN isn't really bad.
14:09:45 Devastator: It seems like an ok idea, but I don't really know.
14:13:58 Piecewise: We shall see indeed. You want to interact with Nature girl?
14:14:07 Piecewise: Ie she's asking whats going on, you wanna tell her?
14:14:18 Piecewise: should I have your character tell her
14:14:52 Devastator: Sure, don't see why not.
14:15:25 Devastator: I mean, big bird and machine gun demonstration.
14:22:54 Piecewise: Sure, just asking because it means you'll be contacting another player, which I didn't know if you wanted to do or not
14:26:58 Devastator: Eh, I would be doing so at some point before we went down.
14:27:06 Devastator: I'm okay with doing it if someone's asking.
14:27:33 Devastator: I did want to avoid players in general, but I'm basically running this mission and people came here for it.
14:27:42 Devastator: so not going to pull out now.
14:52:41 Piecewise: Gonna take this guy several hours to make up the pills for everyone
14:53:19 Devastator: That's fine, have a few days left to work with.
14:53:41 Devastator: I'd like to go down with a few days to spare, but I have like 7 days.
15:08:20 Devastator: Plus need stuff for the plan.
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18:01:57 midnightjaguar:
ER you should update Tachhell.
18:02:06 midnightjaguar: ...not that your here right now.
18:02:15 midnightjaguar: But when you look at the logs you should do it
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19:46:56 Devastator: Well, need to quote the bit where you gave out the starting material.
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