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03:29:14 Devastator: Trying to post PS orders.
03:29:18 Devastator: too much stuff to do.
03:29:51 ER: I would prioritize going home happy with your new shoes.
03:34:04 Devastator: And got them back, yes.
03:34:09 Devastator: but they're still wet.
03:34:16 Devastator: Can't go home without all four.
03:34:22 Devastator: ..and need that grief seed.
03:36:23 Devastator: Plus I gotta get RGU's character alone.
03:39:52 Devastator: well, not necessarily alone, but yeah.
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03:42:56 syv: @
Dev I suggest making smaller, more immediate orders. Next update is on the 17th, and I'm gonna be trying to do a few shorter rapid fire updates now, instead of big monolithic ones.
03:45:25 syv: Also Alida lost her shoes. They were in her backpack, and she lost her backpack when her legs were blown off.
03:45:38 syv: That's why it's not in her inventory.
03:46:02 syv: Don't carry stuff into a labyrinth if you can't bear to lose it forever.
03:46:15 syv: Speaking of, where would Alida keep her phone?
03:46:39 syv: (Oh, and
ER, I liked that sorting visualization video.)
03:47:00 Devastator: although I'm not sure she dove with it.
03:47:05 Devastator: I think she took the pack off for the first dive.
03:47:25 Devastator: I'm fine if you say it got wet at some point and doesn't work.
03:47:37 syv: Well, she lost her backpack, so she lost her phone too. :\
03:47:49 Devastator: ..unless she kept it in her jacket.
03:47:52 Devastator: Yeah, lost the backpack.
03:48:02 syv: If she kept it in her jacket, Aleksandra has it.
03:48:12 syv: I don't care one way or the other which you decide on.
03:48:57 ER: what kind of kid leaves their phone in their backpack, you can't grab it quickly when nobody's looking if it's there!
03:49:01 Devastator: I'm fine if it's in her jacket. Losing the backpack is more serious.
03:49:12 Devastator: .a kid who has a family that can't afford a smartphone?
03:51:08 ER: pretty sure that's not possible in a currentyear setting :P
03:52:20 syv: PS is a crapsack game, poor people exist.
03:53:06 Devastator: Smarphones are expensive.
03:53:43 Devastator: Here three or so months of smartphone is worth all the money you could ever spend on a data-less phone.
03:53:51 Devastator: I know it's cheaper in the states.
03:54:27 syv: PS doesn't take place in the States.
03:55:00 ER: but the whole world is the states!
03:55:00 Devastator: Yes, but I'm saying that there are places which exist that have different relative phone price points than the example I gave.
03:55:22 ER: except for the parts that aren't but nobody here cares about those.
03:55:44 ER: which is the same as nobody caring about those places because the states are all that matters.
03:56:29 syv: ...Also, as far as wealth of characters, the two with smart phones have relatively wealthy parents, and of the other three two are pretty poor, with the fifth being an orphan who has no money.
03:57:14 syv: Which I'm pretty sure would justify smartphone-smartphone-flipphone-nothing-nothing in pretty much all first world countries.
03:58:13 Devastator: Most poor parents with few children spend all available money on their children.
03:59:00 Devastator: So I wouldn't expect top of the line, but I'd expect poor parents with, say, one child to spend a good chunk.
04:00:59 syv: Yeah. Aleksandra's parents are both absent, she's raised purely by her stingy grandfather, and they barely have enough to eat. One of the kids she lives with might have a smartphone, but probably not because of how adversarial that whole family is. A smartphone would get destroyed out of spite.
04:01:24 syv: Mina, who's now dead, didn't have rich parents, but they pampered her to the best of their abilities.
04:01:42 syv: And Tooru's parents are both wealthy, successful businesspeople.
04:02:55 syv: She has a single mother and... six (?) siblings.
04:03:07 syv: A single mother who's not paid well.
04:03:44 ER: and here I am, at the bottom of the totem pole. No, not at the bottom, buried underneath.
04:04:02 syv: There's probably some social welfare she gets, but buying a smartphone with that money would be inefficient and foolish, though I know there's some people who do that.
04:04:30 Devastator: Yeah, six children.
04:05:02 Devastator: I figure dad died four years ago, so probably range from age 4-16, with Alida being second.
04:05:51 syv: I know I wrote down their ages once. I don't think any are as young as 4.
04:06:08 syv: I want to say the youngest was seven, but I don't know.
04:06:27 syv: This is why I was gonna make a list of NPCs. -.-
04:06:31 Devastator: That's pretty closely packed.
04:06:44 Devastator: well, you named the oldest one Eva.
04:06:49 Devastator: I named one Sam, if that's ok.
04:07:17 syv: Yes, I remember that. Think another was Gregory. And yes, closely packed, but 4 y/os are troublesome.
04:23:15 ER: I'm pretty sure that in Refine I specifically stated somewhere that high soul level can prodide passive illumination.
04:24:01 ER: Your soul is currently, let's say not very bright, so that wouldn't work anyway.
05:10:31 Devastator: So just the gem, or do magical girls literally glow?
05:12:28 Devastator: Can mortals see it, or just wards and magical girls?
05:17:34 syv: Has anyone ever tested that?
05:18:09 syv: ...Nah, that still doesn't work.
05:18:43 ER: vampires call normal people mortals despite the fact that vampires are very killable.
05:19:08 Devastator: I'm reluctant to take out my soul and put it on a shelf for someone to stare at.
05:19:24 syv: "Mortal" usually means "non-aging" more than "unkillable", as even immortals tend to be eminently killable.
05:20:08 syv: Hum. If I recall correctly, Tooru's friend commented on her new necklace.
05:20:28 syv: Have you beaten Sekiro yet,
ER?
05:20:29 Devastator: You did mention that the ward thought Alida's jewel stood out.
05:20:33 Devastator: but that was the ward.
05:21:03 Devastator: Hmm, maybe I should go into a doc while beheaded and running painless 3. ;-p
05:22:06 syv: It'd be more fun to get a bunch of spears, jam them all the way through your torso, *then* go to the doctor.
05:22:38 syv: Cut off all your skin too.
05:23:00 Devastator: Recreate Phineas Gage.
05:23:04 Devastator: Just one spear, straight through da noggin.
05:23:13 syv: Nah, that's more reasonable.
05:23:32 Devastator: Have 16 knives stuck in your back.
05:24:27 Devastator: "I'm Julius Caesar."
05:24:35 syv: Entirely gut yourself and replace your internal organs with nothing but knives, carefully arranged to point outward. Then start twisting and moving in such a fashion to force the knives out.
05:25:11 syv: Trap insects inside your body, then casually disembowel yourself and pour the insects out on the doctor while he checks you.
05:25:12 Devastator: Swallow napalm and set your breath on fire.
05:26:18 Devastator: Beetles under da skin.
05:26:39 Devastator: Yeah, especially with painless and regen.
05:27:11 syv: Cut your arm off, and weakly stitch it back on so that it'll come off with even a slight tug. Then, ask them to help you up out of a chair, and start screaming in agony when they accientally rip your arm off.
05:27:30 syv: I wish *I* had Painless, in real life.
05:27:51 Devastator: Or do that with your leg, so you get up fine, but upon taking one step it falls off and the massive pool of blood starts pouring over the ground.
05:28:21 syv: No, no, they need to be holding the severed limb afterward.
05:28:35 syv: So they can stare at the arm in their hand which they just tore off of a kid.
05:28:36 Devastator: So do your other arm too.
05:28:53 Devastator: Ahh, ahh, help me! And this time reach out with the second arm.
05:29:37 ER: just casually fall apart into 1cm cubes
05:30:00 Devastator: or do a pinpoint carotid shunt, so you look perfectly normal except for the arterial spray from your neck making time with your hearbeat.
05:31:05 syv: Sadly painless would broadly prevent bloodloss, unless you had a low level of it.
05:31:42 Devastator: I was assuming you'd need regen to keep making more blood.
05:32:12 syv: It makes your broken body parts functional, and if your skin is leaking blood out, that would mean a body part isn't being functional, no?
05:32:51 syv: If it lets damaged eyes see, broken bones support, and torn muscles pull, why wouldn't it let cut skin contain?
05:33:16 Devastator: Well, that would look weirder then.
05:33:22 Devastator: Stab yourself with said painless spear.
05:34:40 Devastator: look at the insides of my functioning organs!
05:35:00 syv: "Wanna see my muppet impression?" "Sure?" *grabs hair, rocks head back and forth so her nearly-severed neck opens and closes like a muppet mouth* "KRSSSHLLLOOOKRRSSSSSHHLOOO"
05:35:25 syv: It's been awhile since I've seen a decapitation video, I forget what sound a severed esophagus makes. :\
05:41:55 Devastator: That does make lower level painless more valuable.
05:42:13 Devastator: I was thinking it would still lead to you bleeding out and dying that way with most serious wounds.
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05:45:07 Devastator: If it means I'd be safe from bleeding out it makes it noticeably better.
05:55:53 ER: you told
MJ to show up on wednesday with the idea that I'd have something to play.
05:56:09 ER: Rather than try to prepare for that, I'm going to no prepare for that.
05:57:03 Devastator: season two OPM has started.
05:57:34 ER: I have heard that it is Not Good.
05:58:04 Devastator: I heard that. Coincidentally, before it even began.
06:00:26 syv: If I did tell
MJ to show up Wednesday, that's been shot down anyway. Lat I heard, he might have time Thursday. Maybe.
06:00:56 syv: I've heard nothing about OPM but I don't realy like the show anyway, so...
06:01:19 Devastator: All I can confirm is zero CGI.
06:01:23 syv: It's not bad, it's just really not my thing. I don't like superheroes.
06:02:10 syv: It's like you and Deadpool, I think. Just doesn't work.
06:03:17 ER: weird boys with capes punching each other for silly reasons
06:03:45 syv: And weird girls, often in little more than capes. Still not really appealing.
06:03:50 Devastator: I'm fine with deadpool, just in small doses.
06:04:06 Devastator: Like.. I don't know, James Rolfe.
06:06:24 syv: Well, for me, OPM is just boring. Not offensive, but not interesting. Stuff happens that I don't care about, things are said which provoke no reaction.
06:07:52 ER: I like absurd explosions and characters who steadilly climb the stupid power scale.
06:08:34 ER: I honestly don't remember much like, conversation in the OPM anime
06:08:58 ER: the only parts I actually bothered to remember were the explosions
06:08:59 Devastator: ..Yeah, not too big on talking.
06:09:12 Devastator: I think something blows up in ep 1.
06:10:13 Devastator: I do find it a bit interesting in seeing just how absurd the guy will get before being punched. ;-p
06:51:57 syv: I don't get the purpose of the blocks.
06:52:14 ER: to fuck with the AI, oc course
06:52:41 syv: It seems like someone was just throwing them, going "Yeah, yeah, just fall down you little idiot.", and then when Atlas was just powering through, they got mad and just started mashing the "throw blocks" button.
06:53:24 ER: well, it forces the AI to learn to adjust for an unpredictable factor
06:54:13 ER: without something random going on it'll learn how to walk on your perfectly flat plane and then fail when you give it anything else :P
06:55:19 Devastator: I don't know if it actually does that. It might teach it to recover from a wider range of results.
06:55:46 syv: Yeah, they simulations visibly adjusted to the lighter block hits. Only very slightly, though, the blocks were very light. Enough to screw up a completely rehearsed motion, maybe.
06:55:47 Devastator: But it might not change the normal gait at all.
06:56:07 Devastator: Just learn what to do when hit by blocks.
06:56:09 syv: Found in the comments "For the ones procrastinating: Get back to work, stop procrastinating"
06:56:46 Devastator: I do like them saying 'we have to teach it not to run like this, as our simulation doesn't work the same way as a person.' ;-p
06:57:14 Devastator: That run with the waving arms are cool.
06:57:56 ER: there's a different video where they got it to have a gait closer to a real animal without giving it motion capture data, by simulating how much energy the movements take I think?
06:58:01 Devastator: It should totally run that way.
06:58:13 syv: I really want them to just implement a sim with stamina and other rules that make the sim actually want to create something efficient.
06:58:43 ER: nah, it should have a natural gait normally and switch to crazy mode
06:59:09 Devastator: Or not bother it and just make those titan animations for your fangame.
07:00:21 ER: bonus, that one has an adorable little hopping dinosar
07:04:41 Devastator: And the hopper is super-cute.
07:06:40 syv: I liked the power shuffle, myself.
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07:11:16 ER: hmph, that channel has only two videos and the other one is just clips from the first.
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07:16:13 Devastator: That's a good channel.
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07:17:18 Devastator: Oh, the ape isn't dead in Mook.
07:27:11 syv: This one's a much better one, and yes, I only clicked it because of the name.
07:27:19 syv: Sadly it's pronounced "Cool".
07:28:41 syv: And fuck he marries "sighv" >.<
07:30:33 syv: It is remarkably unpleasant to hear someone say "And
syv gets pregnant"
08:28:36 ER: I go away for a bit and nothing happens in my absence
08:28:54 Devastator: We were talking about horrible things in private.
08:28:58 Devastator: Terrible, horrible things.
08:30:57 syv: I've been watching more OSP videos.
08:31:12 syv: Her summary of Dante's Inferno is fun.
08:45:39 syv: That spelling is too persistent to be a mistake.
08:47:25 Devastator: It can still be a mistake.
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09:18:23 syv: It's sad that Rezel STILL hasn't murdered anything.
09:18:56 Elastic_Ridicule: you need more ammo, obviously
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09:19:01 syv: All the apes he's shot at have survived, and all the *allied* apes he would have shot were defused or defended in some way.
09:19:14 syv: And he's never even used up a single mag of ammo.
09:19:48 ER: that's because you're not holding down the trigger hard enough, because you don't have enough ammo
09:20:54 syv: How'd I miss the fact that 888th updated?
09:21:02 syv: "Why would various ordinary people think they could do a good job firing mounted guns with no training or knowledge?"
09:21:25 syv: WWII Germany is a very different place from modern Florida, I guess.
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