00:00:01 syv: We're a terribly sad mercenary band.
00:01:05 ER: Maybe with some more awareness and speed levels I can be a badass gunslinger moth
00:05:05 syv: Wiellste will never be badass, she's too cute for that
00:05:43 syv: If she ever tries to fly aggressively into battle Nyw will hold her back with a headpat.
00:06:52 ER: obviously the proper position for an ethral mercenary is some distance away with a big rifle.
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00:07:24 ER: the 4 revolvers only come out for special occasions like climactic duels
00:07:41 ER: trying to use a sword or something is right out
00:08:05 syv: Could get a diving buff and grab Nyw's murakumo.
00:09:24 syv: Hey
Piecewise, are you busy?
00:10:03 sy: I'd like to talk about minor Nyw stuff.
00:25:26 sy:
ER, do you keep a repository of your little personal text/sig messages?
00:25:44 sy: Because some of them I really like and it's sad to think you might be tossing them into the aether.
00:27:02 ER: wait, the personal texts does have a little suggestion window pop up under it with things I've put there before
00:28:35 sy: The current one is a pretty good joke, worth a chuckle at rhe least.
00:29:34 ER: it's kinda a joke, but it's also based off of Ocean stuff I'd been thinking about.
00:29:53 ER: because those are all the main species in that setting, at least so far.
00:34:19 ER: those are all the ones that my browser cashe remembers that aren't direct references
00:35:19 MidJag: Also do we want to watch a movie or TV show or something?
00:37:42 sy:
Devastator, are you around?
00:37:54 MidJag: I'm sick with the flu so I've got nothing but time.
00:44:27 MidJag: pizza, truelly the lifeblood of the young
00:44:36 sy: Huh. Looking through PS files for something which doesn't seem to exist, found the original text file with the list of possible powers that I brainstormed. 121 lines, 102 separate ideas.
00:44:52 sy: Well... guess I have that now, if anyone wants something like that.
00:45:48 sy: "Costume manipulation (various) --sharpen? --toughen? --tactical, ribbons?"
00:46:26 MidJag: shapeshifting clothes can be neat
00:46:35 sy: Ahhh, Black Mage's hadouken is in here, how did I not use that?
00:46:58 MidJag: That would be kinda perfect. Especially if you gave it to a love.
00:48:02 Devastator: Dammit, nan wanted tactical ribbons.
00:48:35 Devastator: Yeah, dead player character.
00:48:55 Devastator: The lesson: If you are in a deadly situation, you should try to do something to not die.
00:49:57 Devastator: so you want to watch something
Midjag?
00:51:17 sy: Working on sending an infodump to Twin, but it's not time-sensitive.
00:52:42 Devastator:
ER seems to be here.
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01:01:51 MidJag: 6 or 7 was what we were on I think
01:02:58 MidJag: and one sec I'm gonns get something to drink
01:03:16 sy: Checked, we watched 6 last time.
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01:03:41 Devastator: Sorry for the absence. Got tired of dropping so kicked my router around a bit.
01:06:14 Devastator: Oh, that's what's happening.
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01:11:45 Devastator: Well, lets see if it stays up again now.
01:11:51 Devastator: I think that got it.
01:12:01 MidJag: what was wrong with it?
01:12:01 sy: Well, I have E7 ready, but I'm only half watching IRC, so...
01:12:36 Devastator: It would try to negotiate a connection, do so for 30 seconds, fail, and then try again.
01:12:46 Devastator: but it's working now.
01:12:58 Devastator: Might just be getting old, might be a bad socket.
01:13:06 Devastator: Might just need to be opened up and cleaned out.
01:19:10 sy: You're weird for walking like an hour to get pizza.
01:19:35 Devastator: The anticipation helps.
01:19:48 Devastator: Besides, who on here is normal?
01:19:49 MidJag: I'll walk 20 mintues both ways to get a Twicebaked potato.
01:20:11 ER: I was afk because I was eating dinner with my family at the dining room table.
01:20:55 ER: was homemade pizza, very good
01:22:39 Devastator: We're gonna watch and ep of overlord.
01:22:49 Devastator: Maybe more than one.
01:23:10 ER: happy to watch E7 with you guys
01:23:29 sy: Ah, I beeped you because I wanted to talk about some minor DIG stuff. Nyw's (probably irrelevant) backstory.
01:23:59 ER: it's pulled up, so ready whenever
01:24:12 Piecewise: if there's something that matters
01:24:19 Devastator: season 3, episode 7.
01:24:19 Piecewise: you can always just assume he's lying
01:24:43 Devastator: Hmm.. poke
PW about a new statline for ye giant bird.. ;-p
01:25:23 ER: Why did Chalice die again? did people just not like it?
01:25:40 Devastator: Not enough players, I'd guess.
01:25:56 Devastator: Wizards didn't have enough wizards for reasonable turnover.
01:26:03 Devastator: needed a faster pace.
01:30:24 MidJag: You have a cleric in 3.5, just have him stack buffs and kill some undead
01:30:32 ER: they're PCs, they talk ooc sometimes~
01:30:37 Devastator: I don't think you can stack high enough to reach Ainz.
01:30:57 MidJag: Oh definetlly not, but I think most undead they'll be fine.
01:31:02 ER: he's the one who stacks the most buufs
01:31:08 sy: Ainz already stacks to hell, as a stack-to-hell build, so no.
01:31:23 Devastator: and is a big fan of the save-or-die.
01:31:50 MidJag: Man, this song while feverish is honestlly not bad.
01:31:56 ER: love the guy's crazy smile there
01:31:58 Devastator: In a universe where nobody can come within 30 points of your save DCs..
01:32:09 sy: This song is actually growing on me.
01:32:28 ER: I was just confused at first, but then I liked it
01:32:39 MidJag: Dude you don't drop invis until something makes you drop invis.
01:33:08 ER: like a buff item in a From game~
01:33:31 MidJag: Dwarfs a chatoic evil pretending to be Lawful good?
01:33:32 Piecewise: I suggest watching this one and then the next one together
01:33:51 Piecewise: Hi game, I'm
piecewise
01:34:01 Piecewise: Hello to you too, down
01:34:02 Devastator: Heh, in the book they did loot the banner.
01:34:20 MidJag: Wait, they're in Ainz's place?
01:34:30 Devastator: This is the top floor.
01:35:03 MidJag: I'm guessing the demon and massivelly
01:35:18 Piecewise: that cleric's name is "Rober" not quite robert or robber
01:35:19 ER: shalltear and you already know~
01:35:32 Piecewise: "Skeletons are the weakest of monsters"
01:35:36 Devastator: Yeah, Shalltear's in charge of the top floors, right?
01:35:37 Piecewise: hehehe foreshadowing
01:36:02 sy: IIRC he reassigned powerful monsters to the top floor.
01:36:16 ER: either zombies are weaker than skeles or they're the same level but with different properties
01:36:19 Devastator: I want to see the next magic user to be someone large and robust.
01:36:21 MidJag: Definetlly not cat's though, that's like a boss for a first level.
01:36:34 MidJag: Isn't Ainz large and robust
dev?
01:37:07 Devastator: Yeah, but both four-man parties have had the magic-user be tiny.
01:37:09 Piecewise: a boner of unimaginable size
01:38:04 Piecewise: Ains is like a software engineer
01:38:11 Piecewise: Always trying to run doom on everything
01:38:13 Devastator: I'm going to have to invent new terms to describe how boned you are.
01:38:33 MidJag: They are one Maurice in terms of boned.
01:38:44 ER: I read that as "invent new magical items to describe how fucked you are"
01:38:53 Piecewise: maurice stuck his dick in it so hard it killed the universe
01:39:57 Devastator: No, you idiot, you're suppose to trade those for metamagic feats!
01:40:17 ER: they're fighting ALL the maids?
01:40:20 Piecewise: old man is pragmatic
01:40:49 Piecewise: solution with that murder boner
01:41:10 Piecewise: If I remember the main maid is actually neutral or good
01:41:51 Devastator: Also, that's five of them.
01:41:57 sy: Bugmaid's a little evil, other two are utter monsters.
01:42:09 MidJag: Bug maids super evil I though.
01:42:18 Piecewise: Solution is hard core evil
01:42:21 Piecewise: I think the worst of them
01:42:34 sy: Wolfgirl is the evilest I think?
01:42:43 Piecewise: hmm yeah she is a sadist
01:43:02 Devastator: Punchy one is good.
01:43:34 Devastator: Wow, your god sucks.
01:43:37 MidJag: That's a lot fireballs.
01:43:38 Piecewise: Negative 400: Very Evil
01:44:01 MidJag: huh, they're essentially in tomb of anihilation aren't they.
01:44:08 Piecewise: Negative 100: Neutral ~ Evil
01:44:26 Devastator: She would be neutral, except she gets hungry..
01:44:26 Piecewise: Negative 200: Significantly Evil
01:44:41 Devastator: Ahh, the snack room.
01:44:47 Piecewise: solution is the most evil if memory serves
01:45:06 ER: no way that wolfie is only half as evil as slime
01:45:21 Devastator: Slime is like super evil.
01:45:29 Piecewise: Negative 400: Very Evil
01:45:49 Devastator: The one following around Ainz as Momon.
01:46:33 Devastator: Ahh, exposition to the prisoner. Not a good sign.
01:46:53 MidJag: It's like if HR giger made a Twilek
01:47:34 MidJag: What's with the elfs missing ears?
01:47:46 Devastator: Sworddude is a dick.
01:48:28 Piecewise: I assume on a pile of dead elves
01:48:31 Devastator: Lone guy with three elf slaves.
01:48:40 Devastator: I mean, so he doesn't get his throat cut.
01:48:55 Devastator: He looks like a fighter-type.
01:50:28 MidJag: Man, Ainz is just flexing at this point.
01:50:55 Piecewise: Hamsuke actually fights ains in some deleted or extra scenes and she can throw magic around like crazy. Hence her talking about finding it annoying to fight in close range
01:51:28 Devastator: Yeah, gotta really put the boot in.
01:51:31 Devastator: you can do better than that.
01:51:32 Piecewise: I believe that is how elves mourn their dead
01:51:44 MidJag: I thought they ate them.
01:51:53 Piecewise: the kicking is to tenderize them
01:51:54 MidJag: Oh, perhaps the kicking tenderizes it
01:52:03 sy: Nah, elves only eat their own kills.
01:52:16 Devastator: I thought elves only ate people who are still alive.
01:52:29 Devastator: We gotta see how horrible things go for the classic party.
01:52:29 ER: yeah, elves actually don't like eating people they didn't personally kill.
01:52:49 ER: And I think the kill cannibalism might be a sort of... physiological thing.
01:53:13 Piecewise: I do wonder what happened to those elves
01:53:26 Devastator: Well, either they died or someone offered them a job.
01:53:35 Piecewise: maybe sebas took them in
01:53:46 Devastator: Expanding the harem?
01:53:51 MidJag: ...Why is Ainz wearing a collar?
01:54:00 Devastator: Wait, the lizards had them too.
01:54:31 sy: Can't help what it looks like, someone with a stupid sense of humor made some neat gadgets, but they're collars.
01:54:35 ER: dwarves get martial trances, elves get kill frenzy where they eat people :P
01:54:47 Devastator: Elves get 10% speed boost..
01:54:48 Piecewise: READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDy
01:54:51 Devastator: or at least back in the day.
01:54:56 sy: Also, Dwarves get steel, elves get wood, so they win there to.
01:55:15 Devastator: On the other hand, all dwarves, from first to last, are cursed to die horribly.
01:55:20 Devastator: at least according to
PW>
01:55:33 MidJag: No, I think that's a law of the universe
dev :P
01:55:37 ER: goblins get a physical limit to how kind or intolerant they can be
01:55:51 sy: Gahh, whenever I play a new ep I have to swap from Eng.
01:56:15 Devastator: He got it specifically to remove.
01:56:24 Devastator: I think
syv just likes Ainz's Japanese VA.
01:56:24 sy: Always dub except when the dub SUCKS.
01:56:28 ER: I like her VA in japanese, agree it's not great in english
01:56:39 sy: Yeah, his Jap VA is amazing, and the eng actors are just bad.
01:56:43 Devastator: .. but that would mean passing up on Demiurge's english VA.
01:56:55 Devastator: so when he shows up, English.
01:56:56 sy: Ainz's eng VA is particularly terrible.
01:57:05 MidJag: I don't think it's too bad.
01:57:07 Devastator: seems kinda average.
01:57:12 sy: Maybe I'll swap to eng next time he shows up.
01:57:18 Piecewise: Bunch a wishy washy weebs in here
01:57:46 Devastator: Leo levels of boned?
01:57:54 ER: maybe they'll let them live if they fight well enough
01:58:05 ER: the point is to spread his name, after all
01:58:17 MidJag: perhaps like an undead style live
01:58:20 Devastator: I'm not sure why he did this.
01:58:27 Devastator: Reducing the number of adventurers around?
01:58:56 MidJag: Man Ainz has a high charisma save DC.
01:58:58 ER: maybe he dislikes the unofficial adventurers or needs to get rid of them
01:59:09 Devastator: Could just be prep work to weaken a target.
01:59:26 Devastator: This guy's not too bad.
01:59:55 Devastator: Yeah, keep Ainz talking, get more info.
02:00:15 Devastator: If it only worked one in a hundred times, it's better odds than fighting.
02:00:20 MidJag: Should have chugged that glibness potion.
02:00:29 Devastator: no, I think that was [4]
02:00:32 Devastator: Just Ainz is a tough sell.
02:00:50 Piecewise: his reaction seems a bit bad for a 4
02:00:55 Devastator: I mean, it isn't like they're more boned.
02:01:04 MidJag: I didn't know that Ainz could actually get mad.
02:01:07 Devastator: Yeah, that's definately a lich reaction.
02:01:17 Devastator: YOU COME IN MY TOMB WITH YOUR DIRTY FEET!
02:01:44 Piecewise: YOU DARE BRING LIGHT INTO MY LAIR?!
02:01:58 Devastator: Seems more like a lich thing than a player thing.
02:02:06 Devastator: Show off that hot body, Ainz.
02:02:23 MidJag: Ainz is fuckking ripped~
02:03:10 Piecewise: The boning intensifies
02:03:39 MidJag: oh, the chains are a limiter?
02:04:03 Devastator: That's gotta be a goal.
02:04:17 Devastator: get strong enough someone vomits rainbows upon seeing your true form. ;-p
02:04:43 Piecewise: Nothing personal, fleshbag.
02:04:47 MidJag: They die when he touches them?
02:05:01 Devastator: Standard lich ability.
02:06:00 Devastator: Might have just not been thinking that.
02:06:17 Devastator: or casting all the buffs.
02:06:38 Devastator: Okay, yeah, half-elf has less pointy ears than the elf chicks. If only by a little.
02:06:48 Devastator: elf kids, sorry. ;-p
02:06:58 MidJag: ...Is Ainz going to fight himself?
02:07:09 Devastator: I'm sure that'll happen at some point.
02:07:09 MidJag: Because I want to see that.
02:07:21 Devastator: albeit probably with Pandora's actor.
02:08:00 Piecewise: a very good question~
02:09:23 Devastator: ..there are worse things than dying.
02:09:36 MidJag: True. Like meeting HR twilek
02:10:39 Piecewise: stop ruining the twist
02:10:40 MidJag: Hmm, Are the elves evil?
02:11:04 sy: Ah, the worsr fate for a cleric.
02:11:11 sy: Scientific experimentation.
02:11:11 MidJag: Ainz raises a good point honestlly
02:11:29 Piecewise: Negative 100: Neutral~Evil
02:12:16 ER: interesting music for this scene
02:12:16 Piecewise: created by blue-planet san
02:12:53 MidJag: Shall tears armor is way cooler than her normal form.
02:13:56 MidJag: I'm curious why Demiurge want's skin
02:14:08 Devastator: He's totally farming people for those scrolls.
02:14:11 Piecewise: they talk about it in the second season
02:14:21 Devastator: Also, the books had some more info on that.
02:14:29 Devastator: Apparently the scrolls from this world are impossible.
02:14:37 MidJag: Man, those twins are doomed.
02:14:41 Devastator: You can only put level 1 spells on parchment with ink from this world.
02:14:48 Devastator: ..but they put level 3 spells, that work, on them.
02:15:04 Devastator: Ainz can't do that.
02:15:11 Devastator: at least, his guys can't do that.
02:15:11 sy: The twins are irrelevant and won't be seen again.
02:15:29 Devastator:
ER saying it might be the next generation that matters could be a possibility.
02:15:40 sy: Unless they're related to another almost-important blond person I guess.
02:16:01 MidJag: I think everyone in that kingdom is blond.
02:16:02 Devastator: Magic caster was a dispossed noble child.
02:16:11 sy: The next generation will be living with Ainz as their overlord, and will rebel when like level 50 or something, and die quickly.
02:16:36 MidJag: ....how old is this dude?
02:17:11 MidJag: unless all the emps die super quick
02:17:12 ER: the revenge of this world upon the invaders shall be poetic in its completeness, fitting for a universe repairing itself.
02:17:46 MidJag: Oh hey, reverse trap and trap
02:17:56 Devastator: and TWO SHIELD man.
02:18:06 ER: maybe they're like alderode, with different hair colors having massively different lifespans~
02:18:13 Piecewise: he's running a dark souls build
02:18:50 MidJag: I love how pysched the elves are alway are.
02:19:01 Devastator: I get to kill people for Ainz.
02:19:04 Devastator: Today is a good day!
02:19:12 Devastator: Also, two-shield guy died by falling.
02:19:20 Piecewise: they're not jerking it to murder like solution
02:19:36 ER: is that the literal distinction? :P
02:19:40 Devastator: Sure, need a minute.
02:20:02 sy: So 1/4 "jerking it to murder" as you say it, is happily massacring a bunch of largely uninvolved people?
02:20:31 MidJag: Nah, the elves are just happy to be here, happy to be on the team.
02:20:33 Piecewise: They don't kill as often
02:20:36 sy: Also, dullahan maid was happy to murder the group of adventurers earlier, despite being good.
02:20:49 Piecewise: well, they were home invaders
02:20:55 MidJag: which si the dullahan one? The punchy one?
02:21:12 MidJag: Her head seems stranglly firmlly attached
02:21:21 sy: She has a neck thing. Collar or something.
02:21:27 Piecewise: You guys can continue
02:22:02 sy: "By Dubs' name I smite thee!"
02:22:39 MidJag is booped, it's too spoopy for him.
02:22:56 Devastator: By Dubthor's Hammer..
02:23:44 sy:
Piecewise magic is mathematical.
02:27:00 Devastator: Elf runs camera backwards.
02:27:32 Devastator: Trap is a druid. Reverse is a beastmaster.
02:27:36 Devastator: They're all strongass.
02:27:54 MidJag: I guess I'm just used to 5e rangers, who are weaksauce/
02:27:59 Devastator: That was the end of the last episode.
02:28:01 sy: Rangers aren't useless in every system,
MJ.
02:28:14 Devastator: Back in the day they were very nearly the best.
02:28:15 sy: They're better than fighters in 3.5e, for instance.
02:28:30 MidJag: That's a very low bow from waht I understand
syv.
02:28:51 sy: Yes, but it's better than 5e from what *I* understand. :P
02:29:03 ER: wonder if we'll ever get a system where every class is actually useful~
02:29:09 Devastator: Much better than 4e.
02:29:22 Devastator: I'd be happy to play 5e.
02:29:49 Devastator: Where's all your griffens?
02:29:55 Devastator: I want more catbird.
02:30:10 MidJag: Purges are always rough
02:30:21 Devastator: books have a bit more detail about the method.
02:30:31 sy: Wow, Stackoverflow ruined itself for April Fool's.
02:30:36 Devastator: Basically he does tax and manpower squeezes.
02:31:02 sy: Anyway, rangers in 3.5e are either tier 3 or 4 depending on variant.
02:31:08 Devastator: Make them foot the bill for something, a few fall out, and then make the remainder foot the same bill next year.
02:31:44 MidJag: Ah. and what did stackoverlow do
syv?
02:32:43 Devastator: I do have to wonder how everyone recognizes these people as maids.
02:32:53 Devastator: I mean, yeah, they're maids, but they hardly look like each other.
02:34:00 Devastator: They must have rezzed The Wall.
02:34:07 Devastator: And yeah, could be a special eye.
02:34:32 MidJag: Oh she does have a neckthing
02:35:23 sy: Hah, the pet name made me laugh.
02:36:53 MidJag: I have to say Demiurge looks less awesome the more devilish he looks
02:37:18 sy: Why's he got normal eyes in frog form?
02:37:32 Devastator: It's supposed to auto-work on anyone below level 40.
02:37:42 MidJag: I guess emps is just a badass
02:37:47 Devastator: So is emps above level 40, or does he have a special immunity due to his class?
02:38:12 Devastator: That the dad of the magic-user?
02:39:17 MidJag: Proactive defensive wars~
02:39:42 Devastator: Yes! (He's been practicing that.)
02:39:59 MidJag: Oh right, that little cloack twirl.
02:40:20 MidJag: I bet Ainz is a great poker player.
02:40:23 Devastator: Specifically, "I demand silence"
02:40:30 Devastator: Yeah, boneface probably helps with that.
02:40:36 Devastator: as does having levelled emotions.
02:40:55 Devastator: Can you imagine being assigned as ambassador to Ainz?
02:41:11 MidJag: I kinda want to see a lich who's got no intrest in magic he just likes to play poker.
02:41:27 sy: Be polite and you'd be treated better rhan the king.
02:41:45 Devastator: Yes, and ever day you'd have to worry about the servants killing you via accidental bump in the hallways.
02:42:02 MidJag: But they can always bring you back
02:42:19 Devastator: only if you're high enough level.
02:42:20 MidJag: He's too clever by half.
02:42:40 Devastator: I'm pretty sure he'll end up messing up by overestimating his brains.
02:42:44 sy: This is going to have bite him in the ass eventually.
02:43:18 MidJag: Man, it'd be annoying wearing all those rings all the time
02:43:20 sy: He lets Demiurge just assume whatever.
02:43:36 Devastator: Need to add a third "Among Monsters" there.
02:43:46 Devastator: Aww, they didn't let Demiurge ride in the same carriage.
02:45:47 Devastator: I like how they gave all the states different governments to speed up the names.
02:47:04 ER: I still think that demiurge is making plans to suit himself more than Ainz
02:47:20 MidJag: He just wants better suits
02:47:33 Devastator: I think he's actually going to be too loyal to him.
02:47:36 sy: He's making plans to serve what he thinks Ainz wants.
02:47:44 sy: And Ainz is much simpler than he thinks.
02:48:05 Devastator: it's sometimes easier to fool someone with some intelligence than a fool.
02:48:10 MidJag: Ainz is inexperinced in statecraft though
02:48:57 Devastator: Three for snuggle king.
02:49:34 Devastator: Aww, I was hoping for more rainbow vomit.
02:50:35 ER: time to form the x-com project
02:50:44 Devastator: Beautiful stack overflow, really.
02:51:41 sy: Demiurge's voice is horrible, what the hell
Dev?
02:51:58 sy: He sounds like a goblin with the flu.
02:52:11 ER: I don't really remember it, but I recall it at least sounded weird to me
02:52:24 sy: There's largely no emotion to their voices.
02:52:26 ER: having heard everything in japanese to that point
02:52:47 sy: "Oh yes you're so amazing lord ainz. so power. much bone. wow."
02:53:27 Devastator: Hmm? I don't see a demon being emotional.
02:53:35 Devastator: and too me the Japanese sounds pretty flat too.
02:54:52 sy: It might help that I can't understand the Japanese, so I project some extra tone into the words. Novels often work that way.
02:55:20 MidJag: You read novels in a foreign language? ~
02:55:50 sy: Some of the english colloquialisms were what I most hated about the eng voices initially, and the advantage of the Jap there is that I simply can't *understand* the cringey terms.
02:55:53 ER: hey
dev, which leech do you think we should pick?~
02:56:01 sy: I read visual novels which have Japanese voice acting.
02:56:23 sy: Turn it off around 50% of the time, but still.
02:57:42 Devastator: I think I'll go back to the english at this point. It was an interesting dip, but the subs aren't great.
03:00:29 Devastator: Anyway, 3 to go. We done, or doing one more?
03:01:53 MidJag: I'm still down. but I don't think other people are.
03:02:32 sy: I'd even like more, actually, unless Egan is saying he's done.
03:02:46 Devastator: I wouldn't mind one.
03:03:43 ER: I feel like I now need to think about things that aren't Overlord in order to maintain brain balance, so I'm stopping here.
03:03:57 ER: ...if you want to watch one more, I'll just catch up with you later.
03:04:00 Devastator: watch without
ER then.
03:04:02 sy: Do we have any games all of us can play?
03:04:20 sy: I strongly prefer to watch with all four of us.
03:05:03 MidJag: We could play like TF2.
03:05:09 MidJag: I think everyone has that
03:05:21 sy: I uninstalled it because we never play and it's massive.
03:05:59 ER: I also don't have it because... I just don't play it anymore.
03:06:21 ER: I gibbed people, I got hats, now I'm done
03:06:40 sy: I got a bunch of sniper achievements and am now done.
03:06:44 Devastator: I've never had it in the first place.
03:07:19 sy: I once headshot a moving cloaked spy, so I'll never achieve anything more impressive anyway.
03:07:27 ER: valve didn't seem interested in actually adding anything to the game other than community made maps so to keep playing it would be to just repeat playing the same stuff over and over and over, and I don't really like it that much.
03:07:48 sy: Yeah, Dark Souls is far better for that.
03:08:20 sy: Could Icpress gang all of you into playing the AoT game? That can be four-way multiplayer and is simple to download.
03:08:51 MidJag: I do not have the energy for learning a new game.
03:09:07 ER: wait, have you not learned that one already?
03:09:21 MidJag: I have played it once I belive.
03:09:29 syv: He's staunchly promised to play it with me at some point, and always refused whenever I ask.
03:09:45 syv: I think he did try it for about twenty minutes, that is true.
03:09:59 syv: Promise and refusal come after.
03:10:20 Devastator: It requries Unity, which is s little bit tricky.
03:10:24 Devastator: but I'll do it for you today
syv.
03:10:26 MidJag: I can play over the summer more easily.
03:11:30 syv: Surviv would be better I guess. All of us play it.
03:12:15 MidJag: If everyones going to play that AoT game I will summon the energy for it, but I will say I will probably be somewhat listless.
03:12:20 syv: Hey,
ER, id you just don't want to watch OL, we could watch something else, yeah?
03:13:27 syv:
MidJag, have you downloaded it onto your current computer?
03:16:51 Devastator: Oop, joystick controls.
03:17:59 Devastator: ..never mind, apparently that's just for the installer.
03:18:35 Devastator: well, it seems to be working.
03:18:51 Devastator: I don't want to fire it up early because that way you won't see my first moments of fumbling.
03:19:41 syv: As far as rebinds, important ones are turning on reel in/out (by default they're bound to mousewheel I believe, and that's fine), and gas burst, which I bound to space, same as dodge. Secondly, making jump/gas right click, and rebinding special attack to something else. I use mousewheel click.
03:20:28 syv: Beyond that I think defaults are fine, though I rebound everything so it's a little hard to say.
03:20:54 ER: I've actually bound the grapples to my mouse buttons
03:21:34 Devastator: I might want to use the tab key.
03:21:48 syv: It's essentially a shooter, interaction mechanics wise, so I can understand that.
03:22:26 syv: The truly important thing is that gas/jump should be something that's comfortable to hold CONSTANTLY, and that reeling/gas bursting are all turned on and usable.
03:22:33 Devastator: Dammit, it won't take left shift.
03:25:39 MidJag: christ honestlly I might just go to bed. I understimated the energy required to get up.
03:26:06 MidJag: thanks, hopefully I'll feel good enough to play tommorow
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03:27:33 syv: Click multiplayer, server name is a, password is "shivsy"
03:27:46 syv: It should be the shortest name of any server.
03:30:33 syv: Ahh, there's ten titans on the map, mostly around the outskirts.
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05:18:07 syv: Colossal might not be really possible for us, we'll see.
05:33:00 Devastator: 'might not be possible.'
05:33:37 syv: I've never beaten colossus before with less than six people in a server.
05:33:47 syv: Usually at least two play goalie.
05:34:14 ER: I dealt like 10 damage total to it
05:34:33 syv: And while I can *mostly* solo goalie, I can't do it indefinitely.
05:35:03 syv: So with two people (what I thought when we swapped, since
ER hadn't been playing) I wasn't sure we'd be able to kill it.
05:35:11 syv: But nah, it's pretty easy.
05:35:37 syv: You were the first to get a high hit actually.
05:35:56 Devastator: I didn't do anything special.
05:36:19 Devastator: Mostly it was just incredibly irritating because it seemed his hitbox was way too big.
05:36:30 Devastator: I had no idea where the lines would attach.
05:37:12 syv: It's easiest to make big swooping high damage strikes, but even then his nape is a small hitbox.
05:37:18 syv: Not a level I tend to like.
05:37:37 Devastator: Assuming you can see it.
05:37:44 Devastator: clouds clouds clouds.
05:38:38 Devastator: Well, now you've beated Colossal with 3 people.
05:38:50 syv: He only does those as a reaction to being attacked, so the more attackers the harder it is to get a hit.
05:38:50 Devastator: There was a really big stream of aberrants when the colossal went to low health.
05:39:21 Devastator: Fortunately,
ER is competent.
05:39:36 Devastator: and you killed him before we had a leaker.
05:40:03 syv: I suddenly got good and 1k'd him twice. When I'd done like 500 damage so far during the fight.
05:40:07 ER: you flatter me entirely inaccurately
05:41:09 Devastator: You got kills much easier than I did.
05:41:18 Devastator: Also, anyone know where the admin area is on the Mook map?
05:42:18 Devastator: is it the area in the middle with the narrow hallway in it?
05:44:20 Devastator: wish I had a better melee weapon.
05:44:28 Devastator: I'm the best melee guy in the game.
05:44:41 Devastator: or some explosives.
05:44:49 syv: Does anyone have a better melee weapon?
05:45:02 syv: Does anyone have explosives?
05:45:11 Devastator: They didnt' exist when this mission started.
05:45:19 Devastator: otherwise I'd have bought one of each.
05:45:52 Devastator: well, stimming up, getting set up to shoot whatever it is, and if it's still alive I'll try to melee it with a simple baton.
05:45:57 syv: Grumbling about not having water when everyone around you is dehydrated. :P
05:46:00 Devastator: If I live, I should get a promotion for that. ;-p
05:46:11 Devastator: Well, they exist noooow. ;-p
05:47:06 syv: Now you know a tanker full of water is coming. Everyone's still dehydrated.
05:47:23 syv: Well, I guess ir's more like an old lady with a water bottle in her handbag.
05:48:39 Devastator: was fun though, thanks.
05:48:49 Devastator: I hope I wasn't too terrible.
05:49:12 syv: You did amazing for your level of experience, and good for just about anyone anyway.
05:50:22 syv: About a third of the players in most servers have fewer kills than deaths, and you had about twice as many when I checked during Colossal. And a fair number of the deaths were due to the terrible spawning mechanics.
05:53:24 Devastator: I could have lost fewer during the spawning by getting out of there better.
05:54:38 syv: Ehh, spawnpiles can be rough no matter how good you are. There's not really much strategy to try beyond spamming roll.
05:55:12 Devastator: Hmm? Nah, can do better. You're given a little bit of mercy invulnerability, which includes intangability. Should just grab something and boost out of there instead of rolling.
05:55:23 syv: Titans can attack through each other, and if there's any abberants you're likely just entirely reliant on luck, since their bellyflop has an enormous hitbox.
05:56:36 syv: Ah. Yeah, if you can see anything then it's much easier to get out. What I'm referring to is when there's so many titans you pretty much can't see anything.
05:56:48 Devastator: Yeah, you screwed there.
05:56:54 Devastator: Plus I couldn't hit a damn thing.
05:58:42 syv: Accuracy takes a long time to learn.
05:59:40 syv: Most newbies rely on Levi's special, which releases all grapples, and fires one directly at your cursor, and giving you a large speedboost towards it while executing a long spin attack. Completely OP, and makes the game play more like a shooter.
06:00:36 syv: Once someone's past that, they learn to normal grapple the nape while reeling in and crashing into it with the sword, and after that is learning to do a driveby hit.
06:01:07 Devastator: More than what it does automatically?
06:01:50 syv: Yes. Once you're past around 40-50 speed (speed is the damage number you get when you kill a titan while moving), pressing the reel in button while it's more than 45 degrees away from your direction of travel immediately redirects you towards the grapple.
06:02:22 Devastator: There's a reel in button?
06:02:30 ER: maybe I should bind reel in -_-
06:03:30 syv: It also makes you accelerate faster if it's within 45 degrees of your path, so still useful.
06:03:46 syv: Yeaaaah reeling is very important once you udnerstand the basics of movement.
06:05:15 syv: I believe by default reeling is tied to mousewheel up/down. Roll down, you pull yourself in, roll up and you reel out. Reeling out *mostly* stops the pulling effect of a grapple, making you travel in a mostly straight line.
06:05:44 syv: It's more complex than that and has very strange physics, but basically you use it to lengthen the radius of your movement circle.
06:06:07 Devastator: Oh, that should be handy.
06:06:58 syv: And since high speed movement is essentially just rapid fire changing the circular psths you're taking, that's valuable.
06:09:54 syv: I'm really not sure how well the mousewheel works for reeling. I assume it's terrible for reeling out. I rebound reeling to two side buttons I have on my mouse, so I can hold either continually. With the mousewheel, you're only sending an instantaneous "reel" command with each click, you can't hold it.
06:15:19 Devastator: So how's playing as a titan,
ER?
06:16:02 ER:
syv really does just slide up to titans and kill them instantly
06:16:22 ER: but I got to put you in my mouth one time so that's victory
06:16:29 Devastator: I remember you missing me for a while.
06:17:48 syv: I actually really enjoyed fighting you as a PT. I don't get much practice with it, and you're not one of the people who just spams the bellyflop and jump while constantly doing 360° spins.
06:18:20 syv: Which isn't really effective against anyone who knows how to fly, but is a really good way to never die.
06:18:31 ER: gotta start the neck grab as soon as I think you might possibly see me :P
06:18:45 Devastator: you gotta fake him out.
06:18:54 Devastator: act like a normal titan but move just a bit wrong at the critical moment.
06:19:17 syv: 's a walk key which makes that fairly simple.
06:19:58 syv: One of the mods, the really annoying Universe mod I think, has a "disguise" key that makes your titan go on autopilot until you hit a key.
06:20:34 syv: I've never seen anyone to use it well, but in theory it'd be amazing for faking people out.
06:21:11 Devastator: Need moar creativity.
06:21:56 syv: Oh. There's a special PvP game mode which can be pretty fun if everyone's decent, called Infection. As you'd prolly guess, every player except one starts as a human, the other as a titan with infinite respawns. Every time a human dies, they respawns as a titan.
06:23:14 Devastator: they respawn as a titan?
06:23:40 Devastator: I'm assuming the map doesn't let people just hide out of reach.
06:23:53 Devastator: Or is the point to get as many kills as possible?
06:24:00 syv: Game ends when everyone's a titan, or if you set a point limit, when humans score enough kills.
06:24:20 syv: It's a modded mode which runs on any map, and no, there's no insurance to prevent hiding.
06:24:29 syv: Typically the MC just kicks anyone who tries that
06:25:40 syv: Though on a map like city you can't really hide. Biggest titans can jump up to the walls if they're careful.
06:31:20 Devastator: Awful Hospital update.
06:31:22 syv: I don't really know the details of how it works. I've just seen too many titans running along up there.
06:32:52 syv: Skill I assume. Maybe abusive mods but prolly not.
06:38:22 Devastator: Have you seen someone do it?
06:38:30 Devastator: that is, get up there?
06:40:02 syv: Jumped on one of the little tower things, then jumped up to the wall.
06:42:06 Devastator: does the titan have to be a particular size?
06:42:52 syv: I think it only works with the larger ones. I've never tested it myself though.
07:51:04 Devastator: as I said, the lesson is to do something when you're about to die. ;-p
07:54:01 ER: why are these cats so interested in my iced tea
07:55:26 Devastator: they can't taste sugar.
07:55:48 syv: Have they seen iced tea before? Are you paying more attention to the iced tea than them? Are they thirsty?
07:56:04 ER: he's even trying to check out this trailmix
07:57:04 Devastator: Oh, it's got kitten syndrome.
07:57:10 ER: nnn9iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivbhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhgqoiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
07:57:23 Devastator: eventually it just don't care about things anymore.
07:58:48 syv: Finally got a full clear of Forest Survival
07:59:02 syv: 250 kills over 2463 seconds.
08:00:53 syv: My previous record was 200 over 2975 seconds.
08:01:19 syv: So I've gotten quite a bit faster, and I wasn't even going for speed.
08:01:58 Devastator: 50 more kills in 500 fewer seconds.
08:02:08 Devastator: Do you think you could do 300 in 1950 seconds?
08:02:50 syv: I'd have to run a multiplayer server with more waves, since singleplayer ends at 250 kills.
08:03:06 syv: No, completely silent, because I forgot to play music.
08:03:52 syv: ...Also, no,
Dev. That's a sustained average of 6.5s per kill, and my personal best sustained kill rate is 8.1s
08:04:44 syv: This run was 9.9s, because I was being more cautious and also it's hard to maintain that kind of speed for a half hour.
08:09:59 syv: Next I guess I'll have to finish Blood of the Racers. I don't like trying for speedkilling runs really, varies on luck too much.
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